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Robotech 1x38 'False Start' FULL LENGTH Reaction & Review (Patreon)

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2024-09-14 15:03:15
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Friends...I am REALLY liking this story's potential!

Great episode!

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Justin Samlal

Sweet! I appreciate you, Greg!

Justin Samlal

When I was young, it was typically to refer to the three arcs as The Macross Saga, Southern Cross, and The New Generation. Robotech.com now lists them as The Macross Saga, The Robotech Masters, and The New Generation. At one point, we used Saga titles for all of them and it was The Macross Saga, The Masters Saga, and The New Generation Saga. So all that to say, there's very little consistency in the use of titles, so have at it haha! I typically say Southern Cross still, but I think I hear "The Masters Saga" most often. (Now I'll refrain from commenting 300 times and just finish watching aha)

Justin Samlal

Okay so, any unearthly weirdness you notice, like the weird animal Dana found, is because Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross didn't take place on Earth. Veritech is is actually "Variable Engineering and Robotics Integration TECHnology", so any of the transformable mechs are veritechs. You've seen Hovertank, and you'll see some other cool veritech designs this arc, and at least one less cool design too!

Tim
>>149431683

Southern Cross is how I've always known it as, and it follows Macross in taking the name of the original show (of course this breaks down in the last chapter of the show) so I'll be sticking with that no matter what the idiots at Harmony Gold have to say about it.

Tim

The tanks they pilot are called VHTs, no prizes for guessing what that may stand for.

Ken Cheng

ROBOTECH MASTERS, like VEHICLE VOLTRON, is a series that works better for adult audiences than for children and adolescents. I think that if you've liked the first few MASTERS episodes, chances are high you'll like the rest of it. For most people, I think the initial hurdle to MASTERS was that "it isn't MACROSS." Without that mental block (which many people just never get over), MASTERS is a perfectly credible and compelling part of the ROBOTECH saga in its own right.

Ken Cheng

Re: Dana's characterization. She can be a polarizing character (I stand on the side that likes her). She has her exuberant, bubbly side, but as you'll see, she also has a more serious, reflective aspect to her. She's perfectly credible as the daughter of Max and Miriya (with a balance of her parents' personality traits) and yes, she did inherit their talent for kicking ass.

Chris Huston

One thing I really love about TSC are the characters. I can’t really think of a good comparison - and this probably won’t be - but for me it’s like Star Trek: TOS where the characters might not have tremendous growth but you still want to watch them interact and get into adventures. My only criticism about this particular episode is the amount of errors when referring to their ranks. The staff must have been rushing and nobody caught them. Not the end of the world. :)

Warp Reactor
>>149463001

Love it! I've been thinking about Southern Cross since watching this episode...to the point where I think I'm calling an audible and watching a little more today :)

Ken Cheng
>>149463001

First, Warp Reactor, let me provide you a spoiler-free primer on the names and ranks of the principal 15th Squadron characters as the first two episode botched it pretty epically. :) First, 2Lt/1Lt. Dana Sterling, daughter of Max and Miriya. Got promoted to 1Lt. in "False Start." Yes, she is the "Rick" equivalent for the MASTERS leg of ROBOTECH. Private Bowie Grant, nephew of Claudia. Bowie's dad is Vince Grant, whom you saw in SENTINELS as a member of Rick and Lisa's command team aboard the SDF-3; Bowie's mom is Dr. Jean Grant, the SDF-3's medical officer. Sergeant Angelo Dante. Corporal Louie Nichols (he of the red hair and cool shades). Captain/Private Sean Phillips: previous commander of the 15th Squadron stripped of his command and demoted to private after making a pass at a colonel's wife.

Griffen
>>149434136

As a kid I assumed the weird Animal was just something that came off a crashed Zentrati ship.

Griffen

As for Ranks I never knew if they actually messed them up or not. Yeah they go back and forth between Sgt and Lt and Angelo Cpl and Sgt but in the military we have thing called acting. Acting Sgt, Acting LT. You're in that position while maintaining a lower pay grade. If you look at it that way they just graduated the Academy. Angelo is a Cpl. Dana is a Sgt. Philips is a Captain. (When Philips was arrested) With Philips being demoted that would mean Dana would take command (to be promoted to LT) and Angelo would take Dana's slot as Sgt. So what we have here is officially they're ranks could be Cpl Angelo and Sgt Sterling pending promotions. Unofficially, they could be using their soon to be official ranks of Sgt and Lt pending paper work. Which may explain why Dana is shocked to hear Nova call her LT. She thought she blew that promotion and retained her original rank of Sgt. It lines up well enough I don't know if this was esoteric clever writing by someone with military experience, or a complete mess up by a group of writers with no military experience.

Ken Cheng
>>149661306

The ROBOTECH scripts were written by a team that included Carl Macek, Greg Snegoff (the voices of Khyron, Colonel Fredericks, and Scott Bernard), and Greg Finley (the voices of Gloval and Leonard). Carl had no military experience, but Finley did. When the ranks didn't add up, it was probably Carl (or maybe Snegoff) writing the lines. When they actually matched with reality (mostly), it was Finley. :)