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INNOCENT SUNRISE?!! | FRIEREN: Beyond Journey's End EPISODE 4 | New Anime Fan! | REACTION (Patreon)

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THIS ANIME JUST MELTS MY HEART!!!

Here is the FULL and UNBLURRED reaction to FRIEREN Episode 4!!

Enjoy!!

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Yp (edited)

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2023-11-03 18:27:23 Only because you brought it up. Atheism is thr lack of belief in a God or gods. Nothing more. There as many types of people types amongst atheists as there amongst Christians, politicians, athletes as well as any other commonly held association. Some people will try to push their beliefs or lack there of upon people no matter what. That however is not specifically an "Athiest" problem.
2023-11-03 17:26:27 Only because you brought it up. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God or gods. Nothing more. There are as many personalitiy types amongst atheists as there are amongst Christians, politicians, athletes as well as any other commonly held association. Some people will try to push their beliefs or lack there of upon people no matter what. That however is not specifically an "athiest" problem.

Only because you brought it up. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God or gods. Nothing more. There are as many personalitiy types amongst atheists as there are amongst Christians, politicians, athletes as well as any other commonly held association. Some people will try to push their beliefs or lack there of upon people no matter what. That however is not specifically an "athiest" problem.

FaerieRose

Road trip!

Arcade'owy Łowca

I think you have a pretty faulty view on atheism. Atheism is your own belief/disbelief. It's that YOU don't believe in God. I'm a deist myself, which means that I don't believe in any man-made God. I don't impose to anyone that they should do the same. That's just what I AM believing in. Atheist doesn't have any interest in imposing to your their "faith". It's completelly different group that you're thinking about.

Abe J
>>121358121

Absolutely. Atheism is a negative affrimation (poor term) and says nothing of what ideology one does adhere to. I used to argue this long ago with other atheist that thought it should have more dogmatic beliefs. Refreshing to hear someone who actually understands it.

Animeter

The next two episodes will be great

Animeter

Bad reviews? That's strange, I've only heard good things about this anime.

arksaber96

Who said frieren no action? Did they not read the manga?

Burezu

completely agree with the talk on beliefs. I too was atheist once when I was an edgy teenager, but someday I just thought that I don't really care and just wanted to be edgy. I started to belief that whatever there is or isn't it's no matter to me since I don't believe in them, but if other people get some strength from that and don't hurt others because of it then good for them.

Some0neElse

Bad reviews comes mostly from people who goes to the anime seeing it tagged as "fantasy" and "adventure" and expecting it to be epic battles every episode. Meanwhile the series makes amazing job showing us the PoV of a basically immortal character. Also the lack of other elfs you mentioned is explained later in the story

LordDanzo
>>121362258

At least on the patreon comments, it was just 2 or 3 people saying it was "ok". I didn't see the youtube comments, but I imagine it's just a few people.

SilverDragon

Personally, I find more solace in returning to nothingness compared to the idea of a heaven existing. To me, living for eternity sounds dreadful. Humans were born with a finite time and to live forever sounds almost like torture to the soul. While many people don't get all the years they desire, I don't think anyone would want to exist after a 1,000,000 years. It's why in literature immortality is viewed just as much a curse as it is a blessing. I have a few very devote friends I've discussed the topic with, and there belief is your soul is changed when you go to heaven so that eternity won't feel that way. I've always debated that at that point a person ceases to be who they are if their soul is changed like that. What makes me "me" would still die even if some part of me is happy and in heaven in that scenario. There are people that have had to battle with this issue while still alive. There are plenty of stories of individuals who had a brain injury and the person that woke up was different than the person they were before. The families and friends of those individuals are often happy they're still alive, but they just as often mourn the loss of their loved one all the same. Because the person who came home is still different, even if they share the same body.

LordDanzo

Like others have mentioned, atheism has nothing to do with arguing against religion. Just like any other belief (or religion), some people will try to impose their beliefs on others, but that's not exclusive to atheism. More likely than not, the ones you know are atheist, is because they bring it up themselves and try to argue against other religions. The other atheist just keep it to themselves, so you wouldn't know that they are atheist.

Keith Merrington

Atheism is the default. Most people who have a faith don't believe in the thousands of other gods and mythologies that have been dreamed up throughout human history. Atheists just believe in one less (to paraphrase Ricky Gervais). With the fear, distaste and sadness we usually feel due to death, I can understand why many people succumb to a comforting delusion (eventually), but any rational examination of the facts quickly shows you that there is no evidence to base such a belief on. So you need faith - i.e. the ability to believe in something without a good reason to (a.k.a delusion). Having said that, I wouldn't go out of my way to dissuade someone from such a comforting delusion - unless such a belief caused me or others direct harm (e.g. some religious fanaticism driving violence).

Keith Merrington

It's not that this anime doesn't have any action, it's just that the first few episodes felt too alien to me to empathize with. How are you supposed to empathize with a near immortal being who has the emotional maturity of a child and sees short lived beings as little more than temporary distractions? But as it goes on, it slowly gets better. Having watched ahead, it seems to be getting quite a lot better - so I'll keep watching.

Keith Merrington
>>121368417

I'm a different person to the one I was when I was a child, and the one I was when I was a young adult. In fact the only thing I have in common is a continuity of memory - and even that may (for all I know) be manufactured, or at least modified and not accurately represent the past.

GrumpyOldAndy

I get the feeling Fern is improving as a mage at an unprecedented rate. Compare moving the wood from the sunken ships to doing the same to the pumpkins when they first set out. Frieren is probably the most powerful mage alive, and having her mentor you one on one for over 10 years now, and actually using your magic in different circumstances, including battle, not to mention the insane variety of spells you are learning, means she is becoming someone very powerful in her own right, even if Fern herself is not aware of it.

Sebastian Stróż

You tend to listen to people that express feeling of massive minority when it comes to anime. Basically, when you watch any anime you say people told you "dont bother its mid". At this point I guess you figured thats all bullshit and if so many people recommend something then it's good or at least does at least one thing that appeals to majority of people. When it comes to shows with no action being less popular. 100% untrue. There are tons of popular shows with close to 0 action that are beloved by the community.

Bård Fredrikson

As someone raised in faith, turned into an atheist as an adult, the speech about faith here really speaks to how I feel about faith too. Maybe there isn't anything after death, but wouldn't it be more convenient if there was? For me, heaven is what I leave behind. Live my life to impact people in as positive of a way as possible and that way I can live on in them and their actions and thoughts. And if the afterlife is convenient, then I can look upon what I leave behind with a smile. And if not, I live on in another way.

Jay P

So bit of a correction, Atheist stance is just "I don't believe" Not "I know god doesn't exist" or "I hate religion" or "believing is wrong" Many atheists do argue a lot on matters of belief and are assholes but just as a term it just means a non-believer.

ZckFox

When people just say an anime is "mid" without further elaboration as to why they felt that way, you kind of need to take what they say with a grain of salt. Chances are they just don't like the genre and would classify anything they don't normally watch as mid. It's like a rock music fan calling classical music mid. It's not necessarily mediocre, it's just not your thing.

Ultraporing

Luke I'm an Atheist that was raised Roman Catholic, and I do not straight up argue against Religion. The point in Atheism is, that we do not know as a scientific fact that there is God or Gods. The point is not to dismiss out of hand but say there could be such entities and we as of yet have no scientific proof of their existence. Therefore they probably don't exist but there is a possibility for their existence. Atheism is rooted in Science and therefore has nothing to do with blind belief. And far be it my place to tell someone not to belief in their Religion, its not my place and they can belief in what they want. Conversely I require exception evidence for the existence of God or Gods to be convinced since its an Exceptional claim. My point being, we currently do not know for a fact and don't have sufficient evidence to prove either. But it looks currently highly probable that there are no Gods. I hope you understand the difference. And anyone on either side of the debate, be it religious or non religious behaving like a prick. Screw you, you give all your people a bad name.

Lief
>>121380107

It means you're Agnostic, not Atheist then. Atheism is the belief that there is no God/Gods. Agnostism is more like your kind of skepticism.

Lloyd
>>121376899

Yeah i feel like the general impression of atheism is very different in different parts of the world. Personally where im from atheism is the most commonly held belief however we still enjoy alot of our cultural and religious traditions for fun. And id say trying to change anyones religious beliefs is highly frowned upon. Maybe to a non constructive degree but who knows.

Hawk of Battle

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in gods, due to complete lack of evidence in such. It's the scientific approach to ones personal belief. If there were gods, then by this point there should be some evidence for some, but thus far, none, ergo we default to "there are none." We're not trying to take anything away from anyone, we're just looking at the world from a rational standpoint, rather than assume an apparent fiction to be the truth. Considering the sheer number of religions and beliefs out there, none of which can provide any actual evidence for any of their claims for gods or heavens, and with so many conflicting beliefs, it hardly seems likely that most, if any, can all be true. So we don't delude ourselves that they are, and instead take the rational approach that they're all fictional. And as someone else above paraphrased; if a religious person believes in their own god, and an atheist doesn't, then really, we only disbelieve in 1 MORE god than them - Ricky Gervais. Honestly, you probably have as much chance of ending up on Cybertron as you do in Heaven.

Ultraporing
>>121380107

I stand corrected then. And it seems the literature I've read and videos I've watched used it mostly interchangeably. So I'm sorry if I misrepresent it.

Marcio Neves (edited)

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2023-11-04 00:43:53 You question about "Other Elfs". Don't worry, that question will be answered in a few episodes And yes, there isn't much action... YET! 😁
2023-11-03 23:16:04 You question about "Other Elfs". Don't worry, that question will be answered in a few episodes And yes, there isn't much action... YET! 😁 They defeated the Demon King... but his castle still exists. She travelled with the heroes for 10 years, so she is OVER 1000 years, as it was already stated before. And they took those 10 years to reach Ende but that's not because the travel took that far, but because they were fighting the Demon King and his minions during that time, helping people all around, before being able to finally get there and defeat him

You question about "Other Elfs". Don't worry, that question will be answered in a few episodes And yes, there isn't much action... YET! 😁 They defeated the Demon King... but his castle still exists. She travelled with the heroes for 10 years, so she is OVER 1000 years, as it was already stated before. And they took those 10 years to reach Ende but that's not because the travel took that far, but because they were fighting the Demon King and his minions during that time, helping people all around, before being able to finally get there and defeat him

BornOfOsiris

Frieren's journey to defeat the demon king was 10 years. She is currently somewhere over 1000 years old

stokbaek

dont worry this anime have some of the best combat seen this year :)

charlymoon

I don't believe in God or in the afterlife but I think that it's nice that some people are able to believe, what I believe is that everyone should be free to believe in what they want without anyone imposing their beliefs or disbeliefs on them

Joku Jussi
>>121376899

Funnily enough this is just how religious people feel about all the extremists in their religion. Atheism has it's extremists too, people who are forcing their views on others. Belief in higher power or heaven is not inherently bad in anyway, believing that everyone else is wrong is bad. As a side note I'd say religion or atheism is mixed too much with fear of death. If death means that we return to nothingness, it should be considered as much of a relief as heaven. You will not feel pain or anything, you will be at peace.

Eduardoff

There are always bad comments on all anime, but thanks to some friends I’m always aware of the weekly top anime in Japan and USA, both in terms of popularity and specialized critics, and Frieren has been number 1 in both countries for 4 weeks and in both categories

SkyMina (edited)

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2023-11-04 13:23:34 It amusing how we still trying to find the existence of god while our serounding have so much proof that there is a creator to all of this creation. Not only that, your existence is also a solid prove to it but people want to believe in evolution. If you want to talk about your biological father and mother created you , that not wrong but in fact they only helped delivering you. If we wanna talk about science, lets go to reproduction level with semen and egg. I bet we can't even build the same live cell of it no matter how advance we are. Trans people not gonna like this when i talk about it, but that the truth. Don't let me go about soul and death that still can't be explained by science. We are given an intellectual brain and two pair of eye , but it appear there is a lot of people that are blind to their core. Some people can't even recognize what their gender should be. Like it or not, we as a creation have a limit to what we can understand. There is a lot of things in this world that are completely out of our reach. My advice is, if you want to find the answer. You should persue it with open heart, if not you not gonna find anything.
2023-11-04 11:23:11 It amusing how we still trying to find the existence of god while our serounding have so much proof that there is a creator to all of this creation. Not only that, your existence is also a solid prove to it but people want to believe in evolution. If you want to talk about your biological father and mother created you , that not wrong but in fact they only helped delivering you. If we wanna talk about science, lets go to reproduction level with semen and egg. I bet we can't even build the same live cell of it no matter how advance we are. Trans people not gonna like this when i talk about it, but that the truth. Don't let me go about soul and death that still can't be explained by science. We are given an intellectual brain and a pair of eye , but it appear there is a lot of people that are blind to their core. Some people can't even recognize what their gender should be. Like it or not, we as a creation have a limit to what we can understand. There is a lot of things in this world that are completely out of our reach. My advice is, if you want to find the answer. You should persue it with open heart, if not you not gonna find anything.

It amusing how we still trying to find the existence of god while our serounding have so much proof that there is a creator to all of this creation. Not only that, your existence is also a solid prove to it but people want to believe in evolution. If you want to talk about your biological father and mother created you , that not wrong but in fact they only helped delivering you. If we wanna talk about science, lets go to reproduction level with semen and egg. I bet we can't even build the same live cell of it no matter how advance we are. Trans people not gonna like this when i talk about it, but that the truth. Don't let me go about soul and death that still can't be explained by science. We are given an intellectual brain and a pair of eye , but it appear there is a lot of people that are blind to their core. Some people can't even recognize what their gender should be. Like it or not, we as a creation have a limit to what we can understand. There is a lot of things in this world that are completely out of our reach. My advice is, if you want to find the answer. You should persue it with open heart, if not you not gonna find anything.

SkyMina
>>121369555

Ironically that literally judge the book by its cover.

Bluestar

After Frieren you should watch Aria

Keith Merrington
>>121393161

The problem with that is that beliefs inform actions. In fact all actions rely on beliefs - e.g. belief that if action A is taken then result B will follow. If those beliefs are not aligned with reality then action A may inadvertently cause result C instead - with terrible repercussions. So it's better to have beliefs that are aligned with reality and are backed by evidence of a scientific nature (science being [ultimately] the only known self correcting method of establishing facts). At least, that's what I believe :-)

Animeguy1101

I think you should react to the original Japanese Digimon openings. Because that’s just the kind of curveball an anime quiz would do to make sure you get a least one of them wrong. I made playlist for all the Digimon Japanese openings so you don’t miss any. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlHvRFmrcTI9o6BQf_aR9gDRrlUiKZX6P

Subby

where is the aot episode? its uploaded to youtube but its not here

Lareolan

Luke, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what an atheist is. We don't go around preaching to everyone that god doesn't exist. We honestly don't care what anyone else believes if it brings them joy or comfort. The biggest problem is that a lot of religious people can't do the reverse and accept that it's OK for us to not believe in such things, and try to convert us, or worse, pass laws in accordance with their own religious beliefs that actively harm us. That causes some atheists to become a bit militant about it after one too many such encounters. The rest of us just literally don't give it a second thought. This one comedian described it the best I think, when he said, and I'm paraphrasing from memory here: "Everyone is an atheist, because they don't believe in Thor, or Zeus, etc. Atheists just believe in one less god than everyone else". We basically give the christian god, or any other divinity, no more thought than any modern adult gives to the Aztec gods.

SilverDragon
>>121368417

100% agree. I just think there's a difference in a change that a person arguably has a say in compared to a forced change. We're all influenced by those around us. There's a phrase that goes something like "You are the product of the people closest to you." At the end of the day though we choose who we let into our lives and thus we choose who can or can't influence us. I'm not saying making that choice is easy in every case, but the choice is there all the same. In cases where there truly wasn't a choice, that person is usually referred to as a victim in some capacity. A good example would be people perpetuating a family history of abuse (ie: becoming like their parents). The person continuing the cycle is still considered a victim. It doesn't excuse their actions once they're outside of that situation. Just that there is an understanding that in some capacity their choice for being influenced was limited or removed. And memories can/are definitely manufactured and modified. The more you recollect a memory the more distorted it can potentially become, similar to how the quality of a vinyl record decays the more you play it. It's also why eye-witness testimony is unreliable in court in a lot of cases. You could ask 5 people who were at the scene of a crime what happened and get 5 stories that vary to some degree. It's a fascinating and terrifying subject to look into.

L.C.
>>121522919

That isn't true these days. Its literally the opposite these days. Atheist on the internet go out of the way to try and shame and bully religious people. Go look the shit up. Maybe a hundred years ago or so it was true. Not these days. These days many atheists are more than willing to trash someone for believing in the existence of God.

L.C.
>>121522919

You cannot confirm the existence of God but you also can't deny it either. Atheist views are stupid. Just call yourself agnostic and be done with it.

L.C.
>>121522919

You can't deny it either. Don't even try. I have had multiple accounts of seeing someone bring up their religion on the internet or real life and an "atheist" has to have a say in it no matter what. They constantly barrage them with a bunch of shit as if the religious person has already taken it all into account. I honestly think its annoying when you people play victim as if you don't have any guilt at all.

Kosumi

"Honestly, I'm not interested, which is why I want to see it for myself" That's a very poignant line for this show. The first episode opens with the death of a man that Frieren should have known well but didn't. Something that she wasn't consciously interested in became something that caused her intense sadness when it was gone. Frieren began to understand that she is missing something important but has no idea what exactly it is, so she forces change by expanding her horizons beyond what she thinks is necessary.

Daniel Griffiths

so whens the next reaction? the animes kicking off and your nowhere to be seen:'(

Regill Derenge
>>121960906

dude... cut him some slack... he is watching 1241234512 shows at the same time. Just give him some time lol

Eric
>>121960906

you say that but that's his own time management skills, he just started Parasyte today. If he's struggling to watch them all I think it would be healthier for him to limit what he watches instead of starting new ones while already falling behind. He's going to overload himself. Would've been the perfect time for him to cut back and catch up with madoka ending.

lzyl
>>121369555

Not sure if this will help, but let me give you a perspective from someone who in some way relates a lot to Frieren despite obviously not being an immortal elf. I'm the type of person who feels like I live outside of 'real time' most of the time; I don't care much about other people's time, I don't care if I spend too much time on something if I got obsessed with it, in my head time doesn't exist unless I then feel the absolute need. I can also be quite apathetic to people and emotionless. On a more surface level, I even relate to Frieren's tendency to sleep till noon and be totally sloppy. There's also a tendency for me to dwell on the past; there's just always that lingering nostalgia and melancholia so when I come across media focusing on this matter, it just hits really hard and I can't explain it. That feeling of regret, loss of time, past memories, and grief are probably deep feelings too complex for me to process yet they linger and arise on times like watching Frieren. I also felt this when I watched Steins Gate (it hit really hard for some reason) even though at first glance you'd think it doesn't have any similarities at all with Frieren. Anyway that's how it is for me, and probably for some others too :)

Noctislolig
>>121393161

@Keith I partially disagree. Being convinced that one believe is better than another is extremely arrogant in my opinion. I don't believe in any religion either, I also believe in what you called "beliefs that are aligned with reality and are backed by evidence of a scientific nature" but I also believe that falling into the trap of disregarding the potential validity of any other believe would make me no better than the religious people I often criticize for acting superior because of their believes. I think it doesn't matter what you believe in. I think the only thing of significance is how you handle what other people believe in.

Pascal Schulla

another German word/name with Flamme=Flame, Ende=End(who would have thought)

rostikowb

I don't think all atheists try to convince believers. I'll speak for myself, I really don't like religion, but I don't touch believers unless they say something stupid, and in general, why are believers allowed to promote their faith, but we are not allowed to do the opposite? I understand that the emergence of religions was inevitable, because our brains try to understand and explain everything that happens, and some people in the past used this to subdue crowds by giving them the "answers" they were looking for. It is also inevitable that with the development of science, which provides real answers, albeit not comprehensive and not "simple" ones, religions will gradually disappear. I am against religions as structures, but a person can believe in whatever he wants as long as it does not interfere with others. I just think that if people knew and understood that after death comes nothingness, they would value their lives more, not go to war and not blow themselves up in a crowd of infidels because religion says so.

rostikowb
>>121413164

If you used not only your heart but also your brain, you might realize that there is no such thing as "belief in evolution." It is the result of many years of research, creation and destruction of theories and their confirmations, not just "faith because you want to"

SkyMina
>>121413164

Theories that have been proven being wrong , exactly. Anyone can believe anything even if it's wrong. Those exist cause they can't consider a higher being actually in control of everything. But we human are given free of choice.

SkyMina
>>123299043

"after death comes nothingness" oh oh , this actually contradict to value their lives more, not go to war and etc. Thinking like this make theres nothing you should care for your life cause it will come to nothingness , who cares just do evil. With religion, we believe there is a consequence. You doing good , you get rewarded. You doing bad , you get punished. So yeah , who you want to blame? Also nowdays it hard to find a really religious person. They are human after all. Some even use religion as their advantage, and also why people like you hate them and so other people. As much as race doesn't reflect to its people, so are religion. Human nature always have choice to do good or evil.

Kyle Garrett

A lot of Atheists and Agnostics disagree with Religion because there's no evidence of a god, and historically religion has been used as a tool to control people and attitudes by praying on that desire for assurance and comfort about what comes after. Maybe some people are jealous of theists but in my experience most of us were theists that feel like we've been freed from theism and the ones that really push back against others believing are doing so because they want to give others that same freedom. Of course there are some agnostics and atheists that push for others to leave religion, and they all have different reasons for doing so, but they're as much of an extreme as the religion people that go around preaching for people to join their religion. Most of us will leave you alone if you leave us alone.

shootie-san
>>121522919

I mean I think the fact Luke is even over generalizing so hard about all atheists constantly hating and being miserable and it being a meaningless belief that all argue with people about their religion proves that there is quite a bit of prejudice (maybe too strong a word but you know what I mean) against atheists. Lots of atheists are actually what you’d call agnostic atheists, meaning we don’t claim to know but we’re also not convinced and don’t believe. Atheism is just a lack of belief in a god or gods nothing more nothing less.

shootie-san
>>121522919

Just saying you’re agnostic though doesn’t get the point across a lot of the time though. They either don’t know what that means or they think you may believe in some sort of god so most people just say atheist because people tend to understand a bit more that you’re just not really interested in religion.

Kurokiji
>>124554902

Exactly, personally as an atheist I will not tell you to stop believing on your faith, everyone is free to do whatever they want, Just don't force your believes, religion or customs/traditions on others. I like to respect all religions equally and appreciate when others respect mines, even if they don't agree with them. In the end, the only thing I like to preach is peace, let's just get along as well as we can while respecting each other. Thank you for reading.

Melasfo

I mean I would call myself an atheist because that would be the closes to how I feel, maybe I dont even know, I am not a religious person and I don't know much about many different religions, but I would argue with someone regarding what they belive in, I mean I even had a girlfriend who was a really really strong catholic and there were never any issues, I just honestly belive in the present, no matter what comes after I want to live a fulfilled life, being religious or not doesn't change the fact that I would do my best to help others, don't how to describe it otherwise, but for some reason I think that once we pass, we just become a new entity without previous knowledge of our life.

Juan Contreras

Decided to watch this after you got more ep in 😁 I’m watching them while working & is so much fun and calm a nice break from all the fighting/deaths from other animes

Patrick Jacobsen
>>121522919

you cannot disprove that our universe is infact centered in the hemorrhoid of a celestial being. the "you cannot disprove the excistence of god" argument for divinity is by far the laziest argument there is.

Flippnote

Please don’t villainize atheists man. It’s hard enough just to be one sometimes. Atheism doesn’t exist to suck the joy away from everyone else’s beliefs, it’s a belief all the same. I believe in science and evidence. When something contradicts the things that have been proven to me, I don’t believe in it. No more than a Christian doesn’t believe in Buddha. Atheists who say they “know” there’s no afterlife are just being arrogant or want attention. But that’s no different than the arrogance you see from people of faith trying to brazenly convert those who don’t agree with them. I’m an atheist, and I call anyone who says they “know” what comes next a moron. That goes for fellow atheists as well as religious folk. I want more people to understand this

Jan Negrey
>>133521476

I certainly agree with the statement that one shouldn't villainize "Atheists" - as it is also a belief system. However - what you're describing is closer to "Agnosticism" - meaning "not knowing what is true" and "basing belief on what can be scientifically proven". Atheist would say: "I don't believe in Heaven, because whole concept of 'God' seems stupid to me" and other less or more offensive stuff (depending on what kind of a person they are - similar to any other belief) Agnostic would say: "I don't believe in Heaven or God, because no one can prove their existence and I choose not to believe things that cannot be proven". Both are valid religious stances and obviously Atheists and Agnostics share a lot of similarities (and neither are inherently bad, just as most religious stances). Take care and I hope I didn't paint too bad of a picture of Atheists here - I didn't mean to, it sort of came as necessity to exaggerate differences between the two. Also because majority of "non-believers" who make fun of "religious folk" are Atheists. Not Agnostics. Though majority of each are very nice people who don't treat others as worse. And with every belief system you can go "too far" into "extremism".