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General Patton Orders War Crimes - WAH 069 - July 17, 1943

This week, we see a contrast in the way different civilians behave within occupied Ukraine, Patton order war crimes, and Jewish resistance give up one of their own fighters. Join us on Patreon: https://bit.ly/WAH_069_DE Or join the TimeGhost Army directly at: https://timeghost.tv/signup/ Check out our TimeGhost History YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/timeghost Between 2 Wars: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG Follow WW2 Day by Day on Instagram: @ww2_day_by_day Follow TimeGhost History on Instagram: @timeghosthistory Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimeGhostHistory/ Hosted by: Spartacus Olsson Director: Astrid Deinhard Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson Creative Producer: Marek Kamiński Community Management: Ian Sowden Written by: Spartacus Olsson and Joram Appel Research by: Joram Appel and Spartacus Olsson Map animations by: Daniel Weiss Map research by: Sietse Kenter Edited by: Iryna Dulka Artwork and color grading by: Mikołaj Uchman Sound design by: Marek Kamiński Colorizations by: Mikołaj Uchman Daniel Weiss Michael Pitcairn Spartacus Olsson Source literature list: http://bit.ly/WW2sources Archive footage: Screenocean/Reuters - https://www.screenocean.com Image sources: Yad Vashem 7904/114, 4216/31, 4613/139, 5722/35, 4718/1 IWM: C 3608 Instytut Pamięci Narodowej Jewish and Lithuanian police guard the entrance to the Vilnius ghetto 1941-1943 (Source: United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, courtesy of William Begell) Soundtracks from Epidemic Sound: Ominous - Philip Ayers Time to Face Them - Wendel Scherer Nighttime - Farrell Wooten Mystery Minutes STEMS INSTRUMENTS - Farrell Wooten Firebreak - Edward Karl Hanson Duels - Farrell Wooten Endlessness - Flouw Heroes On Horses - Gunnar Johnsén The Story Begins STEMS INSTRUMENTS - Hampus Naeselius A TimeGhost chronological documentary produced by OnLion Entertainment GmbH.

Comments

Anonymous

Well that’s a title that will catch a fair bit of attention, which I think the WAH series could put to good use. Thanks for the hard work put into this episode team.

Anonymous

It isn't a warcrime if your side wins. 😏

Michael Regan

This for Indy -- Usually your pronunciation of non-English names and places is spot on. However, Orël in Russia is not pronounced like 'Oral,' but like "uh-RYOL" with a trilled R.

Anonymous

Along with all the Nazi atrocities, Patton is indeed a war criminal.

Anonymous

How wasn't he a war criminal if he ordered the execution of POWs.

Anonymous

great episode as usual. also, what is going on with the instagram page?

Anonymous

Is there a way to find out what happened after the war with Allied soldiers that committed war crimes but passed court martial?

Anonymous

Sadly all armies in all wars sometimes found prisoners 'inconvenient.

Anonymous

I see YouTube still manages to pester us with advertising, even on an 'advertising free' way of watching...

Anonymous

He wasn't and he didn't order the execution of POWs. He said in his pump up speech to this troops (not a order) to watch out for surrendering troops because he had heard of the reports of what surrendering Japanese troops did. But even with that speech and the not caring about the reports of POWs being executed as much as a modern general would/should have done he still wasn't a war criminal at all. You have to remember you need to judge him by 1940's standards and not the standards of today. Of course today any reports of war crimes passed up to a general need to be taken seriously by them but back before the end of WW2 there were not war crime punishments. Sure there were rules on how nations should act during a war but there was not punishments or a court to convict people if they did something criminally wrong during a war apart from each nations own criminal justice system. And the US was one of the few nations during WW2 to put their troops before court marshal boards for their treatment of enemy troops and actually convict people. In both example cases stated in the video it was determined Patton did nothing wrong and the offending officers couldn't blame Patton on their actions for the pump-up speech he gave. Further along both of those officers were acquitted of the charges against them because there was nobody willing to say in a court of law under the threat of purgery that they did kill those German and Italian POWs. That said if I were a betting man I would bet that they did most likely kill those POWs but at least within the US and I think in most nations in the EU as well the courts act under the innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. So if there is nobody saying a crime occurred that person can't get convicted of that crime since there were not CSI crime tests that could be done to say who shot who in the war.

Anonymous

No, there isn't like a book on that topic. So you would need to do individual investigations on each individual solider accused of a war crime after the war. If you got their names you could then at least in the US search to see if they were arrested and convicted of any other crimes after returning back home. I'd bet many of the accused war criminals who got off, on really what I would call technicalities most likely did get in trouble with the law after they got back home. I mean if someone is already predisposed to committing crimes and they go through war and become desensitized to violence I'd say they are more likely to have then committed violent crimes when they get out of the military. Just another one of the bad things that war causes to happen to the people who have to suffer through it.