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Stalin Keeps Pushing (Patreon)

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2021-01-06 20:22:02
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2023-06

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This week, even as casualties are high and units under strength, Stalin continues to order all out attacks across the Soviet-German front. While Japan is able to make some gains, it is also met with fierce resistance and high casualties. The U.S set out a budget which plans to kick the titanic U.S economy into gear for an unprecedented armaments production program. 

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Washington DC Abandons The Troops in the Field - WW2 - 124 - January 9, 1942

The US government realizes that it cannot send help to relieve the US and Filipino forces in the Philippines, but it does not tell those forces. Meanwhile in the USSR, a huge Red Army offensive against entrenched German forces begins along the entire frontline. The Germans have pulled back in North Africa, though, to consolidate. The Japanese enter Manila and advance in Malaya, but are forced to withdraw in China. Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory Or join The TimeGhost Army directly at: https://timeghost.tv Check out our TimeGhost History YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/timeghost?sub_confirmation=1 Follow WW2 day by day on Instagram @ww2_day_by_day -https://www.instagram.com/ww2_day_by_day/ Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimeGhostHistory/ Between 2 Wars: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG Source list: http://bit.ly/WW2sources Written and Hosted by: Indy Neidell Director: Astrid Deinhard Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson, Bodo Rittenauer Creative Producer: Maria Kyhle Post-Production Director: Wieke Kapteijns Research by: Indy Neidell Edited by: Iryna Dulka Sound design: Marek Kamiński Map animations: Eastory (https://www.youtube.com/c/eastory) Colorizations by: - Julius Jääskeläinen - https://www.facebook.com/JJcolorization/ - Jaris Almazani (Artistic Man), https://instagram.com/artistic.man?igshid=k4l2ushhbwk5 - Carlos Ortega Pereira, BlauColorizations, https://www.instagram.com/blaucolorizations/ - Norman Stewart - https://oldtimesincolor.blogspot.com/ - Michał Uchman Sources: - IWM FE 239 - Supermarine Spitfire By Joel Wisneski from the Noun Project - Container by Shocho from the Noun Project Music from Epidemic Sound: - Easy Target - Rannar Sillard - Deflection - Reynard Seidel - Growing Doubt - Wendel Scherer - Secret Cargo - Craft Case - Trapped in a Maze - Philip Ayers - Not Safe Yet - Gunnar Johnsen - Underlying Truth - Howard Harper-Barnes - Spellbound - Edward Karl Hanson - On the Edge of Change - Brightarm Orchestra - Split Decision - Rannar Sillard - Out the Window - Wendel Scherer Archive by Screenocean/Reuters https://www.screenocean.com. A TimeGhost chronological documentary produced by OnLion Entertainment GmbH.

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Anonymous

Wow, Percival managed to loose Singapore and then was their when japan surrendered (he’s worse than Freyburg)

Anonymous

Percival was not good at his job. He was also saddled with a defense plan that made no sense, first being premised on holding north Malaya to preserve airbases for planes that never arrived, and then next for preserving Singapore as a port which the British had given up on.

Anonymous
>>50911534

TBF MacArthur lost the Philippines, was awarded the Medal of Honor for doing so and then accepted the Japanese surrender on Missouri. The Battle of the Philippines cost the Allies around double the number of KIA, wounded and POW that they lost in Malaya and Singapore.

Anonymous
>>50911534

Macarthur's loss was less catastrophic for the Allies then Singapore. The best possible outcome in the Philippines for the Allies was holding onto Bataan for several more months. Had the Philippines held for a few more months, the Japanese would have been inconvenienced, but it would have been only a minor irritant. Maybe the US could have mustered a relief force in time to rescue... but denying Japan total victory by forcing them to maintain a siege was all that could be hoped for. In Malaya, the Allies were in a much better position. They had more forces than the Japanese and they were closer to friendly areas like India and Australia. The Allies could have launched operation Matador and contested the landings in Thailand. They could have made the choice not to defend the northern airfields and build a stronger defensive line south. Instead, Percival spread his superior numbers widely, allowing the Japanese to defeat the Imperial troops in detail and squandering the advantage of fighting on home terrain. The loss of Singapore was also far more consequential. It presaged the loss in Burma and that loss effectively separated China from the Western Allies for the entire war.

Anonymous
>>50911534

That’s not to mention no relief force could feasibly reach the Phillipines. And they fought to the very very end. wainwright deserved to be their next to Mcaurthur, and MacArthur went on to do an amazing job in the island hopping campaign and the reteaking of the Phillipenes. Wainwright caught extremely well until the position was hopeless. Percival could have created a better Defense, not to mention Yamashita only captured Singapore By a faint as he had less troops that were almost out of ammo. Percival let a bastion fall to a numerically inferior force, of course Yamashita was amazing. And then he got to sit next to MacArthur on Missouri. BS it’s like putting a kid who broke up the house on Macaurthurs lap only to say I helped to. Wainwright fought valiantly and deserved his spot as a resilient hero that fell. Percival should have been court marshalled along with Bernard Freyburg

Anonymous
>>50911534

Not to mention the soilders he didn’t have to surrender as cities can hold with urban warfare (ie Stalingrad, Aachen, Manila) not to mention a numerically superior force the British force had. And these troops that surrendered were lickely or suffer building the Burma road or in a POW camp. No Percival was the worst

Anonymous

As much fun as it would be to join the Percival bashing party in progress, I do have to say that the British forces were in a terrible condition there pre-war. Poor or non-existent training at their own job, just about zero combined arms training, poor or worse morale for the Indian troops who had to put down strikes by their fellow countrymen working at near starvation wages, the list goes on. And that's just at their level. The whole defence plan was a shambles. The army going up country to defend air bases that weren't going to be used to protect Royal navy ships that weren't coming either. A cock up of the worst sort. And although pretty much everyone knew this, no one would change it, no doubt in part because they didn't expect the Japanese to fight as well as they did - and they never expected the Japanese to be able to move as fast as they through where they went.

Anonymous

And just wait for Gordon Bennett. How a good First War officer somehow refused to do combined arms training at almost every opportunity still astounds me. I mean artillery/infantry combined arms, not even tank - infantry at that. At least The Argyll's were there. As mentioned above, had a few more battalions worked like the Argylls the outcome of this campaign could have taken several different turns. https://theprinciplesofwar.com/podcast/1-the-most-manouevrist-campaign-the-australian-army-has-ever-fought/

Anonymous
>>50911534

Singapore couldn't hold once the island was breached and it wasn't all a city at the time. The North and West were still all jungle and once the reservoir was lost, the locals would die of thirst. Stalingrad and Leningrad were on rivers so didn't have to worry about water.

Anonymous
>>50911534

Yes but parts of it were a true city, not to mention the British had a superior force and Yamashita was almost out of Ammo

Anonymous
>>50911534

One determined British attack could have saved the day. And it didn’t have to happen it the first place if Percival led a better Defense in Malaya

Anonymous
>>51005612

Bennet sucked. Just a complete idiot. You know the only thing he was good at was growing orchids (which I guess it hard to do to some extent), but why one earth was such an incompetent man in the army. It was probably like “Sir we need to combine and coordinate our artillery and infantry to stop the Japanese “ (aid) “Not now I am spraying my orchids” (Bennet) “But the Japanese our right there(aid) Bennet, I’ll get on it

Anonymous
>>51005612

Now it falls, Bennett left his troops and went to Australia, Well my men might be dying in building the Burma road, but the worst thing they got my orchids! Geez man can’t you do anything right?

Anonymous

I say half the British officers we have gone over were horrible. Lord Gort was horrible (let me have eggs for an hour and argue with my Ally on principal as my troops die), Bernard Fryburg was the worst he literally allowed Crete to fall. He did NOTHING the stop the Fallschirmjäger he knew were coming, Percival was a bumbling fool who let Singapore fall and as For Bennet, we’ll that idiot could only curate orchids, he could not even merge two units (I know he was Aussie). They all do stupid things on the principals of the empire and because they are stuck on an old idea of warfare. These guys couldn’t stop an army of two year olds or ants. How were they officers that decided major military matters. Makes NO SENSE. And we haven’t even gotten onto Monty who for some reason everyone celebrates for doing nothing (Not to mention Operatoin Epsom, Market Garden, his ego and allegedly being a pedophile). They did have good ones but, it’s like they Just get the worst guys and say have a field day

Anonymous

As for America most of our generals were great the worst being Mark Clark for failing to encircle Kesslring and Courtney Hodges for both Aachen and the Hurgtenwald

Anonymous

The Germans worst was everyone in Cuckooland (OKW and OKH) Particuly Alfred Joel and Wilhiem Kietel. Hermann goering was a total idiot and a fat war criminal, Jürgen von Arnim for not withdrawing from Tunisa, Mackensen Jr. for his performance in Italy, Fredrick Paulus for everything (how he was a field marshal but not Guderian god knows), Gerdhard Von Schwerin (although outside of Aachen His performance in Stalingrad and North Africa was exemplary and I just think he wasn’t used to such autonomy nor got a good enough experience to thrive)

Anonymous

But after all that ranting their is no doubt that both percival and Bennet were awful

Anonymous

It’s weird I feel like their would ussaly be 100 comments all ready, yet I wrote almost all of the 10 or something

Anonymous

Question that could perhaps go for OotF: In this and previous episodes, we hear about intercepted messages and broken codes leading to some strong moves, mainly by the Allies. I understand the allies were not acting on all intelligence, as that could tip off the other side. Weren't there enough big successes though to get somebody worrying? If so, what did they do?

Anonymous
>>51028133

Stilwell was catastrophically bad. Like repercussions felt to this day bad. MacArthur was quite bad... but his badness was of less consequence. The best the US could have hoped for in the Philippines was holding for about 6 months longer than historical which would have made them an inconvenience for Japan but wouldn't have made that much difference strategically.

Anonymous
>>51028133

Vinegar Joe wasnt that terrible. Ps can you guys talk about the guerrilla war in east africa.

Anonymous
>>51028133

Joseph Stilwell thought that troops from six nations that had never worked together before were going to be able to conduct an elastic forward defense and counterattack with less than 2 weeks to prepare. He didn't defer to either the British or the Chinese who both had more experience fighting Japan than he did. (Especially considering he was in command of Chinese troops who had been spending the past 4 years learning the hard way exactly what their capabilities were when fighting the Japanese). When he makes a plan against British and Chinese advice and it blows up in his face... he goes AWOL. He literally walks out for two weeks and leaves tens of thousands of Chinese troops under his command to figure their own way out of Burma. Finally, after going AWOL and pushing a plan that gets two of China's best armies smashed, he has the audacity to blame Chiang Kai Shek for ruining is perfect plan where British, Australian, Burmese, Indian, and Chinese forces would use maneuver and their superior mobility (which they didn't have... the Chinese knew the Japanese were faster and that the Burmese civilian population was hostile) to re enact the battle of Austerlitz. It was catastrophic and traded what could have been a significant defeat with the allies losing south Burma for a catastophic loss.... the entire colony and it prevented China from ever linking up with American industry in a meaningful capacity. Also, this led to the fatal weakening of the KMT, which leads to the loss of the KMT in the Civil War and China going communist... which is the greatest American foreign policy set back of the entire twentieth century. So yes, he was awful. He didn't know his own troops. He didn't know his enemy. He didn't listen to those who knew better. He abandoned troops in the field.

Anonymous
>>51028133

I never realized that he was that bad nor that it led to the rise of the ccp (i just always blamed truman). What else did he do.

Anonymous
>>51028827

Ps is it just me or does Albert Kesslering look like Rudy gullinai

Anonymous
>>51028133

Poisoned the relationship between the US and China for 3 years. Worse, when Japan launched the Ichigo offensive in 1944, Stilwell wouldn't release Y force (US trained Chinese troops in Yunnan earmarked for the liberation of Burma) to go to Central/South China to fight the Japanese. Truman didn't help things when he got there but if there is any American who "lost China," it was Stilwell. He wasn't willing to listen to Chinese commanders about how to use the Chinese soldiers he commanded and constantly and publicly insulted his hosts to Marshall back in America so he could use them as leverage. I'm pretty sure whoever was the American military liaison to Stalin knew he was a bad dude, but he also knew that now wasn't the time to talk about gulags.

Anonymous
>>51028827

The best are Gothard Henrici , Walter Model, Gerd von Rundstedt, Erwin Rommel, Erich von Manstien, Hienz Guderian and although technically an admiral Fredrich Frisius is amazing. He held out over 6 months with broken battalions and managed to hold down allied troops and actually maul them multiple times and even launch an offensive that worked in April of 1945 in france!