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VIOLET EVERGARDEN EP5 REACTION [early access] (Patreon)

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2023-03-15 00:02:56
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they just had to have kenjiro tsuda voice act in this huh!!!

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Saiff Mohammad

Age and Marriage - I couldn’t agree more, the the explicit stating of ages made me every uncomfortable as well. But when I read into it made it a bit better (accepting that was the norm during the time). The show is set in the early 19th Century (1900s). Marriage was a concept and took used between royalties to establish a non-aggression/war pact. Like stated in the very very beginning. Political stance vs common - ‘The coming of age’ ceremonies for royal princesses was what they showed her at 10th birthday. Also the change from ‘dolls’ writing to themselves is big as well. The language was more realistic of that between a couple than an act for the kingdoms and further showing the countries people yes we are happy and so should you (big political game). ‘Mother’ and princess - Also the relationship between the princess and her caretaker is that of a mother to child, “took me away from my mother at birth”. Which is seen as a ‘wet mother/nurse’ (you can Google this for more context) so when you see in the last scene when the princess bowing and hand to the forehead (Mano); is a deep with multiple meanings: 1) it’s a sign of respect and acknowledgment of an elder present in front of you. 2) it can be a means of asking for forgiveness and/or blessing. Now knowing these to things for a Princess to ask a ‘wet mother’ (commonly slaves) for blessing/forgiveness (her yelling and fighting) and show the respect in the last scene is huge. Crossing the conventional boundaries and in a way accepting the caretaker as her mother (or equal to). So in this episode I tend to ignore the age stuff as it’s awkward and uncomfortable (personally) but the dynamics of royalty and the people around them and the ‘commoners’/ slaves was really good. Ty for reading another rant of mine ✌🏽

Anonymous

My least favorite thing about this show and the main thing holding it back from being a 10 for me is it's weird obsession with creepy age gaps. Not with just the princess but with Violet and Gilbert. At least with the princess it can be attributed to royal customs and whatever. With Violet and Gilbert though it just exist to be weird and creepy

Saiff Mohammad
>>104072727

My bad, but yes it’s set around 19th century and 20th century give or take. Ty for the correction appreciate it

Anonymous
>>104075094

Violet is 14 and Gilbert is 29. He's over double her age and she's still a child. I don't like it, I think it's creepy

Kingsley
>>104075094

***please skip this comment Alana*** Implying there's a creepy age gap thing with Violet and Gilbert at this point in the show is basically saying there's a romantic relationship between these two. This doesn't really exist in s1. As the viewers in s1 we're still trying to understand what Gilbert meant by what he said in the same way Violet is. We lean one way and the other as the show goes on. Now you've reinforced one way of seeing it based on your future knowledge of the show haven't you? As someone who hasn't yet watched the movies/read the source, I have no actual idea what happens beside the handful of random spoiler comments I haven't forgotten but Imagine going into the pair of episodes this season with the idea that Violet and Gilbert's relationship being a creepy age gap thing.

Anonymous
>>104075094

*Spoilers so plz don't read Alana* I get that contained to just s1 it's more about Violet's feelings towards what Gilbert said. But with future knowledge on things past s1 I just don't like how the show never addresses the fact that she's still a child and he's a grown man. I don't think much of anything about the actual story would've been lost if they made Violet older. It's just a part of the story I don't like and this episode reminds me of it

Adrift108 (edited)

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2023-03-19 15:39:34 I think age gaps get less important when people are much older, but at that age 14 & 24, it feels like that's just such a big gap in where people normally are in their lives at those points, and it does feel weird.
2023-03-17 00:01:13 I think age gaps get less important when people are much older, but at that age 14 & 24, it feels like that's just such a big gap in where people normally are in their lives at those points, and it does feel weird.

I think age gaps get less important when people are much older, but at that age 14 & 24, it feels like that's just such a big gap in where people normally are in their lives at those points, and it does feel weird.

Toidleboy

the stigmatism against an age gap in relationships is so prevalent today, but many people dont realize that around 10% of all relationships in western countries are a gap of 10+ years... so its still quite common today, let alone over 100 years ago when the average age gap was double what it is today. Westerners are very judgmental so if one sees another doing something that misaligns with their own expectations and beliefs, we put a spotlight on it rather than accepting that love takes many forms. now im not saying at this point that it wouldnt be weird, because it completely is when depicted that early, but it doesnt change the fact that especially in that time period it was quite normal, and even to a lesser extent today. the fact that 1 out of every 10 couples you meet statistically have an age gap of 10+ years shows that. just playing devils advocate here to show the other side of the arguement, and in history it was even more common and extremely normal for nobility to go about marriages like this, so it shouldnt be that weird at all in that context.