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The Dream Is Finally Dead | Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast, Episode 250

After witnessing its death in slow motion, Media Molecule is mercifully pulling the plug on its beleaguered project Dreams. And it's sad, no doubt. But here's the reality: Dreams was a bad idea and a waste of time. Sony voluntarily hamstrung its most creative team for the better part of two generations on a dead end, and you can't really blame artists-types for taking all the corporate rope you'll give them. After all, Media Molecule hasn't released a AAA game in more than 12 years, an unfathomable gap. How that's even possible is anyone's guess. Who's responsible for Dreams' abject failure? Why was this idea allowed to go along so staggeringly beyond its expiration date? And what's next for the House of Sackboy? Other news this week includes tacit confirmation of a Persona 3 remake, Sony's aggressive push into cloud gaming, an official delay for Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, and more. The conversation's rounded out with listener inquiries sent from Patreon, touching on topics like the Redfall 30-frames controversy, the cost of putting Call of Duty on PlayStation Plus, the best order to play the original Final Fantasy games, and a continued ode to a deli that's become a central icon of show lore. Watch An Evening with Last Stand II now: https://www.patreon.com/posts/evening-with-ii-80483739 MERCH: https://laststandmedia.store Follow the hosts on Twitter! Colin: https://twitter.com/notaxation Chris: https://twitter.com/ChrisRGun Dustin: https://twitter.com/DustinCanFly A new episode of Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast launches each Friday morning. To receive instant access, as well as other perks, please support the show on Patreon at http://patreon.com/LastStandMedia Timestamps: 0:00:00 - Intro 0:08:59 - Good luck, Chris! 0:12:25 - Sacred has more stamina than The Simpsons 0:17:32 - The Sacred Sandwich Pilgrimage 0:28:31 - What kind of games would Hitler like? 0:35:43 - Have we seen the recent video game movie adaptations? 0:39:51 - Will we consider a Nintendo podcast? 0:42:57 - Nintendo has announced their own event, similar to PSX 0:55:23 - Fantavision 202X is coming to PC 0:56:35 - Kill the Justice League still hasn’t officially been delayed (update later in show) 1:03:07 - Suikoden rereleases may be drawing near 1:05:36 - What have we been playing? 1:27:39 - Dreams will no longer be supported 1:54:25 - Atlus is working on a remake of Persona 3 2:03:29 - Sony is dissing other consoles in their patent filings 2:09:45 - PlayStation may be giving more attention to cloud gaming 2:28:42 - April’s PS+ games have been revealed 2:38:07 - UPDATE: Kill the Justice League has officially been delayed 2:41:17 - Will PS titles start launching without performance modes? 3:06:38 - What is the most relaxing game we’ve played? 3:12:23 - Is there an upside to AI assisted game development? 3:24:51 - How much is Sony really making from Call of Duty? 3:27:29 - Should I start at the beginning of Final Fantasy? 3:30:17 - Could NFTs be used in a good way?

Comments

Zander

A SS+ episode of Dustin’s road trip “vlog” to the deli would be great content…

Johannes

Since you were mentioning the Hitler meme videos with his generals: There is a new one called Hitler reacts to 30 fps Redfall. I almost pissed my pants when Traudl Junge touched the crying Gerda Christian on the shoulder, saying: Don't worry, we still have Gamepass.

LifeWellWasted

I've said it once and I'll say it again, I would love to have a Last Stand Nintendo show! I know you guys like having Sundays free, but Nintendo show could go live on Sundays.

Pyo

Chris is back!!! WOOOO

Tanner Brant

Love the thumbnail lol

Sumojoe118

I would love a Nintendo show! I know you guys are already busy enough with everything else but even if you guys just covered nintendo once a month it would be great. I feel like everybody else is too positive talking about Nintendo and I know you guys would provide much more honest coverage.

Anonymous

I would love a Nintendo show, as a PlayStation and Nintendo enthusiast, a Nintendo show from you guys would be awesome, since Nintendo is lacking quality in the podcast department and some honest opinions from you guys would be amazing.

Colton McKinney

I can’t even begin to tell you how little I care about cloud gaming and I certainty cannot fathom why Sony would continue to HEAVILY invest in it. Maybe I’m just becoming an old man that doesn’t want to get with the times, i don’t know 🤷‍♂️

Jdummann92

I would echo others in loving the idea of a Nintendo show. Maybe it is every other week or monthly or something... I agree Nintendo doesn'y have a lot of news outside of directs (like once every few months), but a dedicated spoilercast of Tears of the Kingdom and/or future releases would be great!

Matthew Kincaid

Mr. Moriarty with the slutty knee appearance!!

Michael Thew

Awesome episode and Doom 3 prolly was the scariest doom games there was. Very underrated game and the composer was the drummer of NiN and in my opinion has the best soundtrack for doom. Have a good one guys!!

PRETENTIEUX

Interesting point about gasoline: studies have been done that show significantly higher levels of LEAD in gas station worker's bloodstream. Scary stuff, as it seems it was more than double the control group. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3191642/ I know we use unleaded gasoline typically, but US gasoline still breaks down into tons of terrible things and this study shows that just being within the vicinity of it for periods of time really increases inhalation of these fumes.

Cash

Imagine in places like Oregon, where in almost all places it's illegal to pump your own gas, and they have attendants standing next to the pumps all day, 5 days a week...

carter weiss

The Nazis LOVED meth, there's a documentary on it.

Anonymous

Good luck Chris!!!

Jorge Sosa

Mg3 and peace walker are my fav. 3 for the story. Peace walker for the gameplay and sheer amount of extra missions with the addition of co-op. Amazing they did that on psp. I 100% peace walker on psp and the the hd collection.

Walker Simmons

In Mercenaries mode for RE4 remake you can get an S+ and S++. People are getting over 1 million points by doing the entire stage in 1 combo. Super fun mode I hope they add more stages and characters

McMinners

Doing a Nintendo show either once a month or once every two weeks would be good. Hope we don't have to sacrifice another show for it though as I would happily watch every episode alongside the current content and the Nintendo show would likely bring in new listeners

Kenny C

I know Chris has alot on right now, but the yawning is just on another level 😂. Even without the creator clash stuff he yawns alot while people are talking. I love Chris but it bothers the hell out of me , I just feel I pay more attention on the video podcast

BryanK75

It's so bizarre to me that Sony would push cloud gaming, when they excel in hardware production and selling that hardware.... while Microsoft and several other companies have invested billions upon billions in cloud and it is a domain where Sony needs to pay a partner to compete there. Such a strategic misstep... recently it feels like they have no idea who the audience is for their products.

OrochiNewsTeam

About Persona topic. I didn't check today but, PSvita did/does have and play(s) Persona 1 PSP Remake Persona 2: Innocent Sin PSP Remake Persona 2: Eternal Sin PSP/VITA/PS3 (ps1 version) People seem to forget these early remakes. They came out in the PSP days. Physical copies are expensive but they are at least obtainable digitally. Updated art assets and superior careful translation and various bells and whistles. Truly the definitive way to play. They are trapped on Vita/PSTV but they are superb on the little OLED. I have no problem they live there.

Jordan Falduto

Forget a Nintendo show, there are hundreds of creators available on YouTube if that's what you want. What we really need is a PC gaming show for the adults in the room. Steam, Deck, and true underground Indies - talk about a constantly exciting and innovating space. Carve Chris out of SS and snag Tom Marks from IGN (lol) and we'll be set.

Nickster

Hey Colin, I have a thought as to why Spider-Man was removed for PlayStation Plus Extra. This version of Spiderman is the PS4 version. The PS5 remaster was never on the service (yet anyways). My thinking is that in a few months, they will put the remaster in the extra/premium tier. Also, one thing to note is that the PS4 version of Peter Parker is different for the PS5 version. Same voice actor but they changed the look of Peter Parker on the PS5. Could be part of the reason why they ended up removing the PS4 version. Great episode! :D

Sam Strajack

Don’t think a Nintendo show is necessary. Please don’t do a PC show either.

Iqan Adil

Three minutes into the show and Dustin is already discussing recycling, Sonichu style. Classic stuff.

Gooch Gobbler

HIGHLY recommend the very weird Jim Carrey show Kidding. It also features my favorite rapper Tyler the Creator for an episode. Very weird and dark. Wish it didn't get canceled

Greg Dawson

Any game that comes to PS that isn't 60fps I ain't gonna buy it. I skipped most of the Ps4 generation because of 30fps and played on PC.

Kevin Garcia

Don’t let your dreams be dreams.

Keith Huntington

2:15:50 i don't have game mode enabled on my tv, and i played games like elden ring and shredders revenge ok enough. i'm not even sure what it's even supposed to do. i tried going back and forth for a boss fight in elden ring, and the only difference i saw in game mode was the picture was worse. i felt like the input latency was the same either way. 🤷

bix hutch

Sounds like Media Molecule has been reduced to almost nothing. That's sad because they make the games I feel have been sadly forgotten about now in exchange for depressing, dramatic games. That's what made Hi Fi Rush stand out so much. It's just not something we see anymore and I'd personally like more of it. Hopefully they come back with something really creative.

Tyran Batten

I would love a Nintendo show. The right time to start one is with the Tears of the Kingdom release. If we don't have one for the new Zelda then it's probably not worth it after that. I doubt anyone on the team is gonna care about Pikmin sooo...