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We've all been dying to see PlayStation 5's UI, so it's awesome that -- finally! -- Sony has given us a little taste. In a roughly 12-minute video, we grabbed a prolonged glimpse at the basic user experience on PS5, and it looks great. Snappy. Utilitarian. Perhaps even a little crowded and busy. Yet, there was also an overt Killzone Easter Egg put before us that seems to indicate more than meets the eye. Or does it? We discuss. Plus: Miles Morales has gone gold, PS4's new firmware update is both mandatory and controversial, precisely 10 PlayStation 4 games won't work on PS5, and beloved developer Level-5 may be in trouble. Then: Listener inquiries! Is Colin too hard on Jak & Daxter? Should Sony keep its marketing powder dry until consoles are actually available to the public? Can "speaking with your wallet" spell doom for many developers? Will Chris tell us more about Stone Cold Steve 3:16?

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:04:27 - Let's delve too deep into Chris' life.
0:08:17 - Taking Chris to task.
0:11:04 - What is a "female caller"?
0:12:55 - Why did some people wrap their Xbox 360s in a towel.
0:15:36 - It turns out people are still buying Brutal Legend on PS3.
0:19:02 - Have we been hard on the PS5's launch lineup?
0:20:52 - A correction on Stone Cold Steve 3:16.
0:23:16 - Are we playing anything special for Halloween?
0:25:50 - How do we deal with loneliness?
0:30:13 - ICYMI: Godfall has been pressed to disk.
0:30:46 - What have we been playing?
0:42:53 - The Playstation 5's UI has been revealed.
1:03:29 - PS4-to-PS5 backwards compatibility has been further detailed.
1:14:31 - Spider-Man: Miles Morales has gone gold.
1:23:20 - PS4 firmware 8.00 is out now.
1:29:32 - Level-5 is shutting down its North American operation, may be in trouble.
1:34:42 - Rockstar Games has acquired Ruffian Games.
1:38:26 - Numerous persistent games are getting updates.
1:45:46 - Kingdom Come: Deliverance will be receiving a live-action adaptation
1:50:50 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:52:52 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
2:12:20 - Does 'speaking with our wallets' hurt innocent developers?
2:18:33 - Remember when PSN name changing was an actual obsession?
2:20:44 - What does Sony make off physical sales of third party games?
2:22:26 - Is Sony marketing the PS5 correctly?
2:26:58 - Why is Colin dismissive towards Jak and Daxter?
2:32:12 - One listener's view on the recent crunch drama.

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Anonymous

First.

Mitch Orobko

At home sick with a kidney infection. This will make the next couple hours much more bearable. Thank you guys for always providing us with entertainment no matter whats going on.

Dennis Johnson

New Sacred Symbols before lunch always makes for a good Friday.

GameSimp

Big D back on the show

bix hutch

Microsoft is going to buy SquareEnix or Nintendo or something comparable to Square Enixs size or larger on November 9th.

Anonymous

"it's disconcerting to me that people are alive.... You could end that sentence right there" this is why I'm a Patreon 🤝

Anonymous

Gimme that shirt now.

Anonymous

Up to the part where Stone Cold Steve 3:16 is being discussed, Chris' genuine laugh is great. Good segment.

Anonymous

WHERE👏🏼IS👏🏼THE👏🏼MERCH?👏🏼 Thanks for the great content, I look forward to it every week!

RD_21

I am totally buying this Stone Cold Steve 3:16 shirt if you make it.

Anthony J Sanchez

And that's the bottom line, cause Stone Cold said so! Keep on keeping on guys!

Ryan Harvey

When the UI video started and the speaker mentioned how valuable your time is I felt like it was speaking directly to you and your mantra Colin. Especially the beginning card on your game thanking us for spending our valuable time with Twin Breaker.

Piston Pants

Seems like Arkane games all have the same vibe of "looks cool but not my thing", Deathloop will probably have soft sales as well.

Jake Z

Are you guys going to do a best of the generation episode?

Vinny Pepperoni

I would love to hear an update from Dustin on Prey. I got it in a Dishonored 2 bundle and have been thinking about trying it out. Haven't felt compelled to do so though!

Phil Walker

Stone Cold Steve 😂 Its like when you obviously know the line but you are trying to be cool and getting it wrong on purpose. Amazing

Ambitious Casual

The energy on this episode is awesome!

Anonymous

Please Dustin, "interrupt" more often!

D'Ante Almo

Im sad I had to cancel my Ps5 preorder due to moving into my first apartment and unexpected expenses, but on the bright side I was able to get AC Valhalla from amazon for $50 and Spider-Man: Miles Morales for 35 from Best Buy for Ps4. Planning on finally getting a Ps5 either February or next Summer.

Anonymous

They did just put brutal Legend on gamepass

Brad Felix

Great episode gents. Can't help but agree that the "cards" look messy and too much. I like simplicity. Would be cool if you could access those cards by clicking an option, but don't need it on initial button press.

Matthew Jones

I also start fresh with all my devices. I never do a restore with iPhones nor on new consoles. Start fresh and clean.

Kaulike Souza

Not sure how reliable the info is, but Game Informer stated in a recent article that the adapter for the PS4 camera will be included with the system.

Max Stahl

What have the Europeans ever done for us? 🤔

Anonymous

If a publisher comes to you and is offering a game you're interested in playing, I say get that code. If you'd still rather buy it so you don't have freebies on your conscience, you could always pay for one and do a giveaway.

Anonymous

I think this was one of the best episodes in a while, keep it up guys!

Cameron O'Neill

I just wanted to chime in on the whole resolution conversation. There has never been a Sony product that has supported 1440p. The PS4, PS4 Pro, and all their TVs do not support 1440p natively. There is currently no TV on the market that supports 1440p natively. 1440p is an extremely niche PC based resolution that the mass market doesn't really have any access to with their devices unless they specifically buy a 1440p monitor. I don't see Sony ever undermining their TVs by supporting 1440p natively, especially when the UI on the PS5 is in native 4k HDR.

Piston Pants

Sheesh Godfall. The only time I remember that is a thing is from when it is brought up on this show. I wonder if that or Destruction All Stars will be discounted first cause they both have flop written on them.

Jose Horrach

I honestly think Crash isn't selling because it's 60 bucks. The Trilogy sold for 40. Ratchet and Clank was 40. Spyro trilogy was 40. It paints the picture that this should have been 40

Chris Adams

Stone cold scuba Steve!

John

Hey Colin, this might seem like a grievance, but just more of a general curiosity. There are 10,000 CLS Patrons, and each post probably gets a few hundred comments, probably most for SS/SS+ threads. Why do we only seem to ever hear the same 15-20 names being read off for audience questions? Is it because they write in the most, or that they have the highest quality/most topical questions for the week, or are all they all aliases that you use to write yourself questions? Thanks for the great content, my pants get a little tighter each time I see a SS episode with a run time of 2.5-3 hrs.

Anonymous

Go play Brutal Legend! It's now on Xbox Game Pass 🙌

Richard Duflo

Okay, I’m all for the 3 man show. The vibe this week was excellent. As for PR reaching out to you, I think that’s different than reaching out yourself. Idk if the audience has an input, but I like the idea of working with PR that reaches out. I kinda view it as an appreciation for them ignoring the stupid internet preconceived reputation bullshit.

Real Radec

Oh wow you titled the episode after my question. Thanks for reading it on the show by the way, glad you guys found it compelling and it made my day to see the title reference my question. So thanks again, really appreciate my guy! (PS glad some else is on the Sackboy hype train with me!) Also Dustin has beef with Canada now? ooooo boy he makin some fatal mistakes fam

Scott MacLure

It's funny that Chris said he had only seen one advert the new Crash. I'm being bombard with it on UK TV channels. I think it will sell well but not as much as the Trilogy obviously. In the end that's all most wanted.

Jared Ketner

I don't understand how everyone is misinterpreting the record/report feature for parties. It seems crystal clear that party chats will not be constantly monitored or auto-moderated. This is simply a feature that allows someone inside a party the ability to record the voice chat and report it. I see no problem with this and think it will affect virtually nobody. People only get in parties with their friends and if you are worried about them recording you and reporting you then it's possible you have trust issues or need better friends. This will simply stop people from inviting strangers to parties after they played and then harassing them.

Reuben Barrett

Taking magazines into the shower ayeeee.... 👀👀👀👀

Jonah

Hi Colin, Thanks for answering my Jak and Daxter question. Could Japan Studio make a Jak game? It would prevent them from making Knack 3.

DJChazzyCheff

Colin, You should really play Mafia: Definitive Edition. It's quite good and surprisingly faithful to the original. It's also more of a linear game than an open-world and didn't feel like it overstayed its welcome.

Brandon Soto

I’m playing it right now. It’s pretty damn good. So happy there’s no side-missions & gets right to the point.

Brandon Soto

Jak & Daxter deserves to come back. Insomniac has worked on Ratchet & Clank since the very beginning while working on other franchises, yet still bringing Ratchet back. Don’t see why Naughty Dog’s 2nd team (if they have one.) can’t work on a new Jak game while the main team works on TLoU Part 3.

Anonymous

Yeah if PR reaches out I think it’s worth working with them. But after the disrespect I wouldn’t ever reach out to them.

Derek Waechter

Thanks for the hard work fellas. To reference the question I wrote in on the thread for this episode, there was nothing to worry about regarding the PS5 UI. Sony was holding it back to build hype, like everything else. Again, a staggering 80% of next gen console preorders are PS5 units. I’d say their strategy is working. Still refusing to let the new UI be spoiled for me. Can’t wait to see it on 11/12.

Monterey Jack

Anyone else? Chris has a deeper-ish voice again.

Anonymous

As a British person, one of the groups most commonly attacked by Colin, I just wanted to say if you can’t take the obvious jokes he aims at us your dad fingers cats.

Robert F Friemering

Colin can't finish some games like FF VII because he has a female caller. Most weebs aren't so lucky.

Zack Fair

Really loved the loneliness segment of the show guys, its good for a place where we come to chat about games and have a laugh can have its serious moments also. Big props guys for putting this in the show

Zack Fair

With regards to games, personally I'm not buying anymore PS4 games and saving my money for the PS5 games to come and in the meantime going through my PS4 backlog

Anonymous

Oh my goodness. Someone on this show actually called one of these games an “Immersive Sim”. I was tepid on Dusty before, but now he deserves nothing more than an Hand Sandwich.

Kendrick Luckenbach

Get access to Godfall if you so choose! I feel like you guys wouldn't play it if not offered because it's a "looter slasher" but I think it's important as a "huge PS5 exclusive" that you all have played the game. Just my two cents, thanks!

Anonymous

Don't forget the fine print on BC games on PS5. The fine print establishes that there WILL BE errors present when playing some ps4 games. But everyone seems to gloss over this and I have no idea why.

Anonymous

If PR reach out to you it is fair game, take the opportunity. When sony were trying to make you beg for access that was not ok. Neither of you will like Godfall by the look of it but why not give it a go you may be surprised.

Roman Caraman

I see that you guys keep discussing the PS5 adaptor for the PS Move camera and how they might do it. Microsoft gave a free adaptor for the Kinect when the One S released (I included a link about it below). I assume Sony handle this similarly to how Microsoft did previously. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-claim-free-kinect-adapter-xbox-one-s

Frank G.

Just wanted to write as someone who's listened to SS since day 1 this is by far my godamn favorite episode. The drop just killed stonecold chris 16 and I think he needs a stunner for that mistake from last week. lol (ofcourse I'm kidding I love Chris) The dad shit was hilarious and Dustin turned his back on the E.U and I don't know if he was joking...oh well. And lastly I'm a big Destiny 2 fan FOV slider on console ITS ABOUT TIME! I'm amped son for Beyond light, I decided to hold of on the Xbox mini-fridge and go in deep with the Ps5. Love all what you chicken 🐔 fuckers do I'm looking forward to the next one. Ps. Chris I think they are getting rid of that copying thing for ps5 so we don't have to wait for 2 godamn weeks on the patch updates. I think Mark Cerny confirmed that.

Miles Williams

I tried so hard to like The Evil Within. I have no idea if they've fixed it, but when I played it you couldn't play the game in full screen. It had the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. It was omboxious!

Kenneth Oms

Not sure if we’re supposed to reply here Colin, but I think you guys should take the gearbox preview even though none of us our stoked about that game. We all love this podcast and hate how you’re treated by companies and their PR teams. I think this is a good way for the podcast to give a middle finger to the PR teams at other companies. Just my two cents, love y’all

Brandon Soto

Was really hoping Sonic Forces would be one of the games that didn’t work on PS5

Robert F Friemering

I agree with Chris on the 1080p with Ray Tracing & 60FPS. When playing PC games, I'll turn down resolution & textures to bump up lighting & shadows for a more enjoyable atmosphere.

Brandon Soto

Fair point. Those are are remakes/remasters though. This is a brand new game, and personally, it’s worth $60.

Anonymous

Just wanted to say thank you for mentioning about delivery drivers (like myself) and manual labor types etc. I just get so annoyed by the stupid crunch articles on gaming when there are many others doing the same if not more. Since COVID I don’t know of a driver whose done less than 60-70 hour work weeks from March which will continue until the new year at minimum. From political mail to Christmas it’s just non ending. And hearing you talking about it was very nice. Thanks Colin!

Peter Campbell

On the insulting Europe subject, as a Scot I am disappointed in your weak disparagement. I expected more viciousness, more inventiveness, a genuine zest in your work in this area. Alas it has not occurred. The UK is one of the most sarcastic countries in the world. No-one should quit your patreon over what has been offered so far. They must be very weak-minded indeed. Nothing you have done so far in damning remarks on Europe has been up to snuff. Do better, please. We expect more from the colonies.

Anonymous

Colin, I think you all should definitley welcome the PR team and accept the copy of Godfall. You say you are trying to build this community as welcoming and if Gearbox wants you to have access to this specific game which otherwise you and Chris may have or may not have played by your tepid response on previews, I say you take it. Like the classic 1997 Hot Boys debut album, "Get It How You Live".

Anonymous

Hey C,C,& the D ... just want to say something about the party chat moderation. Part of the reason for this could be because a lot of terror organizations do use PS party chats to communicate with each other. (Probably Xbox chat as well.) I work for tsa and I have had briefings about this.

Avery

Hey C, C, & D I'm glad the big D himself ;) brought up DLSS. It's Nvidia's technology and AMD still doesn't have an answer for it; And unfortunately Sony's checkerboarding solutions are a joke in comparison. I really sympathize with Chris, it's kind of sad that Sony is boasting 120fps (granted I'd say not as hard as their competitor) and not having the "performance mode" on their most anticipated exclusive be running at said framerate. This could be a result of Sony first party titles only having two options "performance or fidelity" vs a variety of 3rd party games I've seen supporting several framerate and resolutions but that's just my theory. Ps. Have been a Patreon for quite sometime but this is my first time commenting and just wanna say I love when all three of you are on the mic, Colin steering the ship, Chris' infectious wildness and Dustin's Wit makes a mean combo. Keep it up gents 🙌🏿😘

Kenny C

You know, this really is the best fucking podcast of any kind I listen to. It's just so good. Been following you a long time Colin, thanks everything you and the guys give us. Helps me more than you know.

Luke Silletta

Thank god Life of Black Tiger will still work on the PS5. I was worried for a second.

Sumojoe118

When discussing the new 8.00 update you guys forgot to mention that they also completely ruined how party chat works. Its now a huge hassle to manage, join, and create parties with different groups of friends. It was a completely unnecessary change the old party system worked perfectly.

Andrew

Chris. The girlfriend and I both have GLASSES and we wouldn’t dare to wear them in the shower. You’re a maniac

Robert F Friemering

I really don't care if PR reaches out to give you guys codes. Godfall doesn't seem like a game Colin would purchase on his own, maybe Chris might have. You guys are pretty transparent anyway with us. I'm ok either way you choose.

There’s No I in LLC

Yeah Godfall must be in trouble if theyre reachin out to yall. But there is a undercurrent of intrigue for that game.

Drew Agnew

The definition Google gives for female caller is “a female prostitute with whom an appointment can be made by telephone, usually to meet at the client's address”. That’s why people jumped to that conclusion, not just because they think Final Fantasy is real. 😂 Love the show, listening on my Sunday off!

JD

Yo add me on PSN for some Destiny shenanigans @ Messeract

meijin3

Hey Colin, I think it's a good that a publisher is reaching out to you and ackowledging your audience. You're a man of integrity and I know this won't effect your opinion of their game either way. I think it's very different than you seeking out codes or freebies. Just my 2¢.

NeO JD

I can also confirm the towel trick worked for my 360s. Wasn’t ever a permanent fix for me but it helped occasionally. A Stone Cold Steve shirt sounds tempting lol. On the topic of loneliness, I’d say the way it’s always worked for me is just to focus on other things that would keep your mind busy. For you guys that seems to be work, for me it’s more of just relaxing and going through the backlog whether it be games, shows, whatever. Then, making an effort to get out there helps too, whether it’s in person or online, just being willing to meet new people. Lastly, on the PR front, I’d say definitely do the Godfall coverage. Could be the start of these guys finally waking up and seeing the audience you have. Plus, I think Godfall is in such a weird place where your coverage of it will shine a light on it whether good or bad, ‘cause right now I’m totally indifferent towards it.

Anonymous

Would the discussion around crunch not be an issue if these studios stop announcing release dates/coming (season-yr) 1-2 yrs out? I mean Most AAA games get delayed nowadays. I feel like they are setting themselves up for failure by doing this.

Adrian Pinter

Loved this episode. Laughed out loud multiple times and the three of you already have great chemistry together.

Nathan Henderson

On the gearbox issue - I think you should take them up on it, assuming they know that you won't let their support affect your opinion of the game. Honestly, I'd love to see more integration with you guys getting games early and having the opinions/thoughts go up day and date with embargo

Robert

quality memes this episode

Robert Graham

“Theres probably about 10% of you listening to this show that don’t know anything that’s not in a visual novel or final fantasy game” XD I found my exit survey complaint lol

Reuben Barrett

Really enjoyed this episode. It's also kinda cool that Gearbox reached out to you guys, I say if you can work with them and it doesnt come at any cost to the integrity of the show, go ahead. I mean why not? in my opinion kinda shows a certain level of maturity from Gearbox.

Cory Towler

To be honest I got a boner when I heard Dustin's voice back in the show. No homo. But youre a great addition. lol

Anonymous

Make a "Dustin 3:16" shirt.

RD_21

People need to shut up about Jax, Colin is right 😜

Anonymous

One of the funniest episodes you guys have done. You 3 were firing on all cylinders.

Empty Symbol

Just my two cents here but I think it's great that Gearbox reached out to you guys. Just because certain developers and publishers have blacklisted you shouldnt mean you should be unwilling to work with anyone. I think that seeking out opportunities is probably a waste of time and braincells but if a dev comes to you in good faith then there is no harm in seeing where it goes. If nothing else see this as an opportunity for Gearbox to make the case for their game which on the outside seems uninspired aesthetically and mechanically maybe there is more to it under the surface. Anyway keep up the great work Gents

Steve Bitto

Please accept Gearbox’s Godfall! The audience can only benefit from your insight especially those of us getting PS5 at launch.

Your Boi Nicky V

Those opening 30 minutes were genuinely hilarious, Chris was in fine form. I think the biggest factor in Crash selling fewer copies is that it's full price, the N Sane trilogy had a budget price. Also, I think you should definitely go ahead with Gearbox, Colin. That game is the big enigma of the launch line up so I'd definitely love to hear what you, Chris and Dustin have to say on it.

Anis

Please play godfall, I'm not interested in the game at first, but after I saw the previews from japanese youtubers I'm way more interested in the game, even more than spider-man miles morales. The gameplay looks good, it's like a mix of god of war & dark souls.

Anis

Because ps4 pro have this warning on the console boost mode option and yet, the mode seems just fine for playing games. It's just playstation covering case for the fringe chance of error on some games.

Samuel Zamora

I felt Dustin was going the How I Met Your Mother route with the “hate.”

Kevin Cooper

I don't usually comment on shit like this, but the chemistry between you three on this episode was noticeable. The laughs seemed genuine and I enjoyed the banter quite a bit. The different perspectives was also a great mix. Well done. Would listen to this trio again.

Anonymous

I personally don't care about Godfall, it looks way to generic and I really don't resonate with the loop of loot-oriented shooters. Regardless, I do wish to hear your thoughts about that game, it is a PS5 console exclusive after all. I know that you both will be honest and thorough in your comment whether you buy it or receive it from the developer. In my opinion, do it if you feel like it.

Anonymous

They did fix it, I played it last year. I actually loved both 1 and 2 😄

LastStandMedia

We have much planned, but I'd rather be late on those kinds of episodes and make sure everything has settled into place.

LastStandMedia

It bums me that you feel like this, because I feel like I have a bias towards names I've never seen! If you hear some of the same names, it's because they're writing the best feedback, and I'm drawn towards it as I put the show together. But again, it bums me out to hear this, because I try to incorporate as many people as I can. But obviously, it's an inexact science.

LastStandMedia

I don't know what I'm gonna do. He's right, though: It's interesting we're being presented with the choice.

LastStandMedia

This could be, sure! As I said, I feel like a move like this only happens if there's prodding behind the scenes.

LastStandMedia

I truly think that devs, as always, will crack open the machine over time and get what we want out of it. These are early days. Thank you for your kindness and support!

Brian Lau

This is similar to the term female caller but when I was in London, I met a girl who was not working. Instead of saying that she is unemployed, she referred to herself as a "lady of leisure". I had to do a double take and ask what that meant. My first thought was similar to hearing female caller for the first time.

Gondotheslayer

The reason the 360 towel trick worked is because it reapplied the solder. You could have also put it in the oven if you only put in the motherboard. I actually fixed a phone that way after exhausting all other options. It doesn't always work, but it works a surprising amount of the time.

Anonymous

For the love of all the gods, please make Stone Cold Steve 3:16 shirts. I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. I need the merch!

Oliver Johnson

Colin, I don’t get the ‘stay in your lane’ mentality with video game adaptations. Books are adapted in great movies all the time. There have been plenty of successfully adaptations between all kinds of pieces of art (i.e. Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now into Spec Ops The Line). Just because all the Hollywood attempts have been half assed and misguided doesn’t mean a good adaptation isn’t possible.

Cash

The fact that it hasn't been done yet though, is disheartening

ur ppnballs

Literally laughed out loud. "I'm happy you're happy." - Colin "Thanks, Dad." - Chris Hahahahahahaha You guys r awesome