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Ready or not, a brand new battle royale adventure has joined the fray. It's called Apex Legends, and it's a free-to-play Titanfall spinoff from EA's Respawn Entertainment, launched on PS4 as a complete surprise to everyone. That's all well and good, but can the market sustain another one of these types of games? And why does it seem like Electronic Arts is competing with itself? We sort through it all. Then: Sony's recent financial report shows a healthy company and a very healthy PlayStation 4, but what does the future hold for the Japanese behemoth, what with a serious threat from Microsoft's Xbox brand on the horizon? Plus: Quantic Dream officially leaves Sony's second party family, GameStop could be in serious financial jeopardy, 2K announces a brand new studio, and more. And for dessert, your inquiries and thoughts, including on PlayStation 5's hypothetical launch library, the wisdom behind buying a PS4 late in its lifecycle, and the possibility of a new middle market emerging for A (not AAA!) games.

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:02:26 - Episode 35 (three episodes from now) will be recorded and go live one day later than usual (free feeds unaffected).
0:03:13 - Why does Chris hate Imagine Dragons so much?
0:05:07 - Sacred Symbols Let's Plays start this week! Patrons will soon get to vote on some of the games we cover.
0:07:23 - How about that excellent Xbox Super Bowl ad?
0:09:10 - What are we playing?
0:13:08 - One listener takes us for task for missing "last week's biggest news story."
0:15:18 - Sony reveals new financials, PS4 sales numbers, other interesting data.
0:17:45 - EA and Respawn announce and launch new F2P battle royale game called Apex Legends, out on PS4 now.
0:27:40 - Sony reveals February's free PS+ games; last month PS3 and Vita games will be given.
0:34:49 - Quantic Dream officially leaves the Sony second party; will now be multi-platform developer.
0:39:08 - New trademark filings indicate deep backwards compatibility possibilities for PlayStation 5.
0:42:45 - The final episode of (ex-)Telltale Games Walking Dead's last season revealed and dated.
0:43:45 - 2K announces new fully-owned studio headed by ex-Sledgehammer Games co-founder.
0:44:27 - GameStop fails to find a buyer, is in increasing financial peril.
0:46:49 - Sony reveals sequel to the 1993 film Groundhog Day, and it's a PSVR game.
0:48:51 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
0:49:53 - Where should Capcom take Resident Evil from here, and what games should get the RE2 treatment?
0:52:00 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
0:59:26 - What games were we outrageously excited to play the first time?
1:02:24 - Is Resident Evil 2 Remake a good reminder how short, tight games can still be fantastic?
1:04:38 - Is it still a good idea to buy a PlayStation 4 now that its lifecycle is drawing to an end?
1:06:46 - Should Sony start investing in mobile gaming like Nintendo has?
1:10:13 - Could PS5 (hypothetically) have the best launch lineup ever?
1:14:01 - One listener doesn't understand they backwards compatibility hype train (and other Xbox rantings).
1:22:14 - Would Sony ever make a AAA game like Resident Evil 7, something "standard" playable entirely in VR?
1:24:13 - Does the pricing of a game like Far Cry: New Dawn suggest a new middle market is emerging?
1:27:43 - Should pubs and devs do more to celebrate regional or local communities of gamers?
1:30:28 - What happened to codes and cheats, and will they ever make a comeback?
1:33:30 - Outro.

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Anonymous

This is my favorite video game podcast!

Anonymous

The community is gonna find a way to get you to play Kingdom Hearts Re:Codes

DB Cooper

The Apex Theory? Vaguely remember that band, haha

David Graham

Definitely didn't expect Nico Vega to come up in conversation. Chris has just gotten +75% to my liking him. You know how to pick your co-hosts well, Colin.

Anonymous

You do know that by letting the people suggest what you play, you’ve doomed yourself to playing Kingdom Hearts 3

James Galos

Did anyone else feel like Apex Legends doing an intro and launch help it? No hype machine or people picking apart trailers frame by frame. Just here it is go play and 1 million people jumped in. Well played Respawn

Anonymous

I believe it was clarified last week after the blog post about the ps+ games that you don't need to download the PS3 and Vita games, just claim them as usual.

Destynee Andrews

I spent a solid 5 minutes at work last week reminiscing about the Honeycombs raving chinchilla mascot.

Kenneth Oms

Sacred Symbols "I, also like to get high," t shirt coming soon hahaha. Great episode as always. I'm glad the Spanish version of Chris' name made it through! Also, the whole anthem chart thing was so weird, the chart had been out since before december on the anthem reddit, and then all of the sudden became a big deal. Very strange

Brian Borlaug

Yeah I think there's a thread from Wario64 that shows you only need to claim them as usual.

Zack E

On that blog post about the PS Plus changes A user asked about clarification about if you are able to download games from your library. The author of article responded YES: You are able to access any game you have in your library. You DONT need your games literally installed to access it. It’s a ridiculously worded paragraph in a fairly important blog post.

Jeremy Craves

There's a lot to learn with these Battle Royal games. Situational stuff you (maybe just me) need to learn from trial and error. I'm still trying to get my first win in COD Blackout. Even with Apex being free to play - I don't have the time to learn how to win on a new map with new characters/abilities. Good luck to them but I doubt I even download it.

Caleb Peacock

Apex is amazing. Best BR game I’ve played.

Jason Bolla

Oooh secret ending about Lola.

Tony Rivera

Easter eggs at the end of these episodes are gold, Colin- thanks for listening! Lol

Owen

Apex legends is fuckin dope so far

John Lynch

I played Apex Legends. I hate Battle Royale games and this game is exceptional. Also Vince Zampella and EA both confirmed that more titanfall is coming this year. Also they confirmed the reason why they just stealth released it is because of it being F2p, having loot boxes. They said they wanted people to just download and play and avoid the negative publicity on it

bk200jj

Chris is right. Imagine Dragons is terrible. I've noticed that anyone who has made music with real instruments thinks the same.

Tyler Berg

I have disliked all the Battle Royale games I’ve tried until this one. This plays so well.

Joey Rawlings

“I have a bad feeling about everything.” - Colin. This needs to be hung as a sign above a launch PS5.

Kaleb

Scooby Doo 2010's onward has actually been pretty cool. There's a pretty good 52 episode series that ran at the beginning of the decade and theres a a ton of crossover specials and movies with the likes of Kiss, John Cena, Batman and CW's Supernatural.

NeO JD

“Trademarked Verb?” 😄 Scooby-Doo is chill. Shaggy in MK is too much though. “I have a bad feeling about everything.” - Colin Moriarty. Looks like we have a new idea for CLS merch 😎

Kenny Gutzler

For what it is worth - I have two PS Cameras. One I bought with the launch of the PS4 and the one that was included with the launch PSVR bundle. One never used - can mail over if he needs!

Anonymous

I definitely get what Colin is saying about Sony's silence and Microsoft's innovation and risk taking born from survival and maybe even desperation, but I think that while Sony can be a bit more risk-adverse than Microsoft, they're also far more wily than he's giving Sony credit for. Since the release of the PS1 Sony has won 3 out of 4 console generations, which is a ridiculously huge accomplishment when you think about it, especially when you consider who they started off against. There's definitely some hope for the PS5, we just don't know enough yet to say either way.

Marc Boggio

Resident Evil 6 co-op would make for a funny let’s play. It doesn’t play terribly, but the story is bonkers and would make for some funny commentary.

Brett Carlson

110% agree. I have been on this soap box since the no E3 announcement. I dont see all the worry for playstation as a brand at all. The PS3 launch debacle was a misreading of market trends which was later course corrected midway through the console cycle, and then that philosophy carried over to the affordable and better presented PS4. This trend has only gotten stronger throughout PS4 lifespan. Look at how gamer friendly Sony is with there title offerings. You get by far the most bang for your buck. If Playstation was somehow flipping their philosophy, why then would they let a games like DREAMS gestate for years and never waver support for Media Molecule? Now look at the rave previews the BETA is getting. PS5 is going to be priced where the PS4 was price at launch, it will be powerful, it will have backwards compatibility all the way back to the PS3, and some type of "Games Pass" service for PS2 and PS1 games. Have No Fear.

Brett Carlson

Apex Legends is a fantastic game Colin. One of the smoothest launches for this type of game I may have ever seen. Its Titanfall 2 fused with Overwatch. Fortnite may have the death grip on children and celebrities (the bulk of its audience) but Apex Legends is a legit competitor in this genre in terms of actual competitive gameplay. Unique ideas from Respawn which should only make EVERYBODY more excited to see this Jedi Fallen Order game. Respawn is a very good studio who have been mismanaged by EA. Titanfall could have been a bigger franchise then Battlefield. This is a good sign.

Owen

Doom counter tick --- I think with BR just like any genre the cream rises to the top. So far it's been Fortnite and PUBG. H1Z1 has slowly faded into almost nothingness. Radical Heights crashed and burned. etc etc. I think though if companies keep trying and they make a good one, that it will rise. It's early for Apex Legends, but so far it's had a better start than several others who have tried. Why? Because it's quality.

LastStandMedia

The numbers are great, but it's really how many people stick around that will matter, especially one The Division 2 and other games start dropping. Also, what's their conversion rate on microtransactions? Are they making money?

LastStandMedia

What I'm surprised about in reading about it, though, is how it seems to have taken all of the Titanfall conventions out of the game. No Titans or familiar characters or fluid speeds or anything?

LastStandMedia

The formula is simple: For every game that rises to the top, others will suffer. It's the market at work, and it's going to be fascinating to watch.

Brett Carlson

The real question Colin, is why would EA release a polished, good Battle Royale with fresh paint, and then release a Battlefield V Battle Royale? Why does EA choose to compete against itself? Seems like they try and burn the candle at both ends

Daniel Boyer

Although I love the Apex Theory, I think the Worlds Theory is more applicable. A battle royale game divided against itself cannot stand!

LastStandMedia

I talked about this in the podcast. EA just released a F2P battle royale game on top of Battlefield V's battle royale mode AND Anthem!

Nathanael Haller

Hey Colin, I’ve played Apex Legends for the last two days and I gotta say that I’m loving it. I used to be of the kind that all BR’s were not for me, and that a new one will not bring in a new crowd. The abilities from Overwatch, the loose and responsiveness that has lacked from CoD Blackout, a sliding mechanic that is super fun, a great variety of weapons from the Titanfall arsenal, and a very well made map made me convert. I just wanted to show that this game at least converted me, and a handful of my friends who would have otherwise never gotten into a Battle Royale

Jordan Falduto

Man, just hearing someone else say we need a FFT2 proper is just so great. You're right, Disgaea/Fire Emblem/XCom does NOT scratch the itch. FFT had something special... I was crushed the 20th anniversary came and went. Right now my hopes are a console port of War of the Lions with achievements added. I feel I've waited all my life to get a plat in FFT...

Tony Rivera

Totally agree with you guys on a Silent Hill 2 Remake. Took the idea right out of my mind. I’m so glad Chris mentioned it. A fresh coat of paint would be amazing and horrifying. That game series is one of the only ones that can freak the shit out of me. Shame that Konami owns the IP. I hope you’re wrong about it never happening, Colin. I would love to see it (and shit my pants playing it)!

Anonymous

I for one am really interested in hearing about what's going to happen with all of our ps+ games moving forward for PS3 and Vita. I was planning on eventually installing the biggest possible hard drive in my PS3 and downloading all the ps plus games I wanted.. might have to do that sooner than I thought!

LastStandMedia

Hey, if you like it, that makes me happy. I'd love for all of us to play only the games we love. =)

LastStandMedia

With Konami at the helm, it's a longshot. That's why I'd love to see them cooperate with another publisher that can do it justice. And who better than their old rival Capcom?

LastStandMedia

Me too. There has to be a big announcement or reveal of "what's next" with the next batch of games in March, right...?

Craig Mcguire

Pretty smart of Respawn to launch with zero marketing hype and thus sidestepping the EA hate mob/backlash. 10m players in 72 hours is amazing happy for them after being shafted with the launch of TF2.

Anonymous

I’ll have to disagree with you Colin on your “apex theory”. I’m a gamer that has never really got into multiplayer games before , but yet when my friend asked me to play Apex Legends; I loved it. I liked that they took time to put story into each character and made each character stand out to some degree. I enjoyed the fact that every character has unique perks and felt more like Overwatch and Chris btw there is a character that uses a grapple hook. Love the content and thanks for making Tuesday’s great again.

Ryan Murdoch

Love you Colin, Ive been watching the mega man lets plays you did in the past, soooo good man. I am working through Bloodstained curse of the moon and mega man 9 this weekend. Anyways, love the show and keep up the good work man.

B00ch

I am kinda surprised Apex Legends has found quick success. it looked cool to me, but there are so many of these BR games that i thought it would do only ok. impressive numbers so far. i wonder what the staying power will be like. i've only played it myself once, i felt totally lost but my teammates were nice and helped me

LastStandMedia

It's quite interesting. What I want to know, above all else, is how this is eating into other popular game's cumulative player numbers, etc.

LastStandMedia

I gotta listen to what I said, because I was under the impression that I stated not all of these games can survive. And I don't think they can. I don't know that I said Apex Legends itself would fail. But again, I need to listen to my specific verbiage. That said, I'm glad you (and many others) are digging it! But I also think its numbers after a month or two are gonna be way more important.

LastStandMedia

I'm surprised (to a degree) as well, though I don't think success is in its quick numbers, but how it burns. If 10 million people (or anywhere close to that) are playing in a month or two, I'll be impressed, and then maybe we can talk about a game that can really start to chip away at the likes of Fortnite.

Dennis Fox

New Patron, loooong time listener. I wanted to stop by and just say I love the work you are doing and it just keeps getting better. On that note I think it’s wild how much Apex Legends blew up, and honestly how fun it is, I’m not a big fan of BRs at all and this one is pretty addicting, excited to see if it can actually compete with Fortnite, I doubt it will be able to “take down” Fortnite but I think it will definitely give it a run for its money.

Anonymous

I'm a patent attorney, and I took a look at that Japanese Sony patent application (not a trademark) that just published. Turns out there's a US application, from which the Japanese patent application is based, that published back in 2017: <a href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170212774A1." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170212774A1.</a> It hasn't been examined by the US Patent Office yet, so we don't know what might get protected if it ever issues. They seem to be going for broad protection, and I'm curious to see what the Patent Office finds.

Walt Duncan

I know I have a bit of benefit from hindsight here, the game having been out for several days. That said, I think there's a lot that distinguishes Apex Legends from others in the genre (namely a class system), and also there's a lot that ties it to Titanfall. Lastly, I think just releasing the game works because they don't have to fight the criticisms that would have surely ensued if they said "we cancelled Titanfall 3 for a battle royale game" 6 months before launch.

Luke Tucker

“Xbox Live’s gonna get the Virtual Console...MARK IT!” Ya boy Colin with ESPN morning programming level hot takes in Sacred Symbols 32!! 🔥

Kaz Redclaw

Hah, Imagine Dragons. One thing you have definitely heard from them is the Radioactive song. It was the major song that Sony used when introducing the PS4. Sony has used at least one of their other songs for Playstation advertisements as well.

Michael Candelaria

Okay, two music notes. 1. Imagine Dragons is terrible. and 2. Quad City DJ's did "C'mon N' Ride It (The Train) they also did a song for Space Jam that sounded exactly the same.

Eric S

After hearing Sony financials saying they went down 14% I think the idea of doing the blowout for PS Plus PS3 and PS Vita massive release would have been great. It would get some good will with gamers and also introduce people from the Xbox 360 to experience great PS3 games that they might have missed. As my basketball coach in HS would say all because you are winning does not mean you stop playing hard. You keep playing hard to bury the competition.

LastStandMedia

Thank you so much for joining us here! We appreciate you. (We discuss the game in far more detail on the next show.)

LastStandMedia

Yeah, I mean, when we discussed it, the game was out for like an hour and we hadn't played yet. We discuss it in far more detail during this week's episode.

LastStandMedia

I actually went and listened on Spotify last week. Definitely not my kind of music, but I don't find it as offensive as Chris. LOL.

Anonymous

Argh, the period screwed things up. Try this: <a href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170212774A1" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170212774A1</a> or if that doesn't work, go to Google Patents and type in the number 20170212774. I mostly do software patents, so I'm going to keep an eye on this for professional reasons and for my own curiosity.

Michael Candelaria

Hahahaha I guess it was doing it right... Totally unrelated, but I did have a massive crush on the female vocalist of that group at the time.

Ollie lovell

Great episode, the best gaming podcast out there.