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Anonymous

Wiggins Island, where offensive plays go and are never seen again...

Anonymous

Alch, you brought up a great point that a lot of us didn’t consider last night: the mental fatigue at the end of a long road trip. I trust that Steph and Wiggs will be right back on track after some rest at home and with fans in attendance on Friday night.

Gsw4L

This game ends up all MVP discussion. Joker was doing it all since day one and was the only one healthy. What a weird season with so many injuries. My prayers to Danny Avdiya. Btw Alch, I love your Hezi but I don't think Raptors would agree on that trade without first picks included..

Anonymous

Great breakdown alc. I do think Beal is a top tier finisher at the hoop though, I’d like to see what he can do on a contender but idk if his price is right.

Anonymous

I agree....the teams was gassed. I wonder if that's the reason that Wiggins has quite some games where he is asleep. Because he does so much on the court.

Anonymous

I wonder if the warrior's staff have been coaching Wiggins to finish with less dunks to preserve his body for longevity. Maybe how they work with Klay? Klay could def try to stuff it more even on wide open breaks but for what? But Klay also knows when to try to hammer it. Maybe Wiggins (like we've seen with Wiseman at times) is still integrating the coaching he is getting into real time decisions.

Jimmy Ji

How often can you say the starting lineup lost us the game? That is exactly what happened last night with Curry being -23 on the floor. It was a discouraging loss considering how we finished but we have to look at the positives. The 2nd unit has developed and everyone seems to know their role a little better with Wiseman out. As much as Oubre hates coming off the bench, he fits that role perfectly for this team. He will probably produce better numbers coming off the bench as compared to being a starter earlier this season because he has more opportunities to score when Curry sits during the early part of the 2nd and 4th quarter. If he wants to get paid this offseason, wouldn't coming off the bench be the better alternative because it allows him to put up bigger numbers?

Anonymous

Steph lost us this game. Also i believe his IQ in this game was just too low. If your shots arent falling, become a distributor and empower poole and oubre to score. Get to the foul line. But steph just kept jacking up shots like a drunk man.. it was pathetic. A 12yr veteran acting like a disoriented rook. Anybody can have a bad shooting night but how u manage it determines if u win or lose. This is where CP3 is better than steph. Cp3 would have pulled off a win for his team.. also draymond is trash on offense. They need to get steph a different pnr partnet. Someone that can finish.. nobody will guard dray in the playin game or playoffs..

Jansen E

The silver lining of this game is as you said, hopefully Steph (and Wiggins and literally everyone else) is angry after this game and comes out wanting to punch a team in the mouth tomorrow. With the road trip fatigue in mind, it is much easier to swallow this game. When I was watching it and not thinking about that, I was way more angry and bitter about it. The refs calling some bullshit as usual, but just the dumb plays down the stretch. You could see them blowing the game in slow motion. I actually wanted more Alpha Poole as well. But I think even he was a little gassed after playing like what...11 straight minutes? Im sure he couldve kept it going anyway, and wouldve wanted to! But I digress. I think the things that hurt the most was 1) literally 24 hours after Steph calls himself the MVP....he comes up with what is his probably worst game of the season since January and 2) Wiggins' inability to make layups and total REFUSAL to dunk costs us a game. Maybe we lose the game anyway after tying it at 114. But to just leave it on the table for a more or less wide open layup.....very upsetting. I didnt even realize Lee was out. And I find myself clamoring for more GPJ. Can Kerr please let him play tomorrow against the Nuggets? Without Murray, theyre gonna look to Michael Porter Jr. more for scoring. And Wiggins and Oubre will take that task while Dray takes on Jokic. With no JTA, we're gonna need that 3rd and 4th defender to generate some energy so Im hoping we get to see some significant minutes from him.

Anonymous

I think considering all the injuries from dunks, nobody wants to encourage a player to dunk on that team.

Anonymous

siakam for wiggins straight up like you said is interesting. But it wouldnt happen. Theres guaranteed upside for the warriors. Theres potentially upside for the Raptors. Probably with the Minnesota pick, it happens.

Anonymous

I think its good for steph to have laid this egg. Now he has achip on his shoulder. He has something to play for now. He wont get the mvp but he can get the scoring title and 1st team all nba

Anonymous

Alch, you think Steph missing the free throw to complete the 50 piece at Philly should've been a canary in the coal mine warning is this game would happen for him? And I had the same thought in the 4th that Steph maybe shouldn't have gone back in, but if we lost anyway, social media would've had Kerr's head.

Anonymous

glad you cleaned up the bradley beal shade lol... Beal is levels above Eric Gordon especially in mentality. Jordan Poole definitely has the alpha scorer mentality. I know it's a bit blasphemous but he reminds me of a young kobe where his mentals are way above his abilities. Remember Kobe air-balling those crunch time three-balls vs the Jazz way back when in the playoffs. Poole has that same level of audacity. I think they close it out without Steph. The team sort of relaxes and expects the Chef to get buckets as do we all problem was he emptied the clip in Philly. No Bullets left for Washington.

Anonymous

Yeah I put this one on Steph gotta hold him accountable but I agree I think his demeanor postgame means a rude awakening for Denver. And fun fact Steph is averaging 43 ppg against the other top MVP candidates.

Anonymous

I REALLY wish Steph would adjust his game a little bit when his shot isn't falling. IT'S OK to be a distributor and penetrating finisher man. He doesn't need to be a long distance savant in every freaking game. This is where his mentality/profile as a scorer hurts him as opposed to just being a good POINT GUARD. Games like these hurt his Finals MVP chances as well. The team was doing FINE without him scoring, and he just doesn't seem to notice and digest that, he keeps trying to impose his scoring when it wasn't needed. If he would've just came in with a winning/playmaking mentality, it's an easy win. I also think this is where he's a bit limited as a closer...he's always trying to do some heroic stuff and the opposition gameplans around that. It's ok to just be a regular player sometimes.

Anonymous

Hey alc, how much of the mental fatigue do you think was the road trip, vs staying up late on social media to read about his GOATness, vs waiting on the chauvin verdict?

Abhi Kelkar

Why didn't we challenge any of the suspect fouls? Esp Dray's 6th? That should at least be a momentum stopper for the other team

Anonymous

Come on man you can't put Beal on the same tier as Gordon lol. He does a bit of everything, drive, get fouls, off catch and off dribble 3, basically a higher volume slightly less efficient Lillard that can play defense. He'd be good as a second option. Beal/ Lillard is what I would hope Jordan Poole can become with less speed and better shooting. Steph lost us the game, simple as that. Every time he was in we were losing point differential. We probably lose this game big without Oubre and Poole.

Anonymous

I would agree especially on the closing part. It's hard to fault the man when the long ball is his specialty and go to, but a lot of the times he forces it and doesn't take what the defense gives. Case in point this game they were pressing up and at the end he had pretty much 2 uncontested layups. Going to the hoop does take more energy so I give him a pass for that last night at the tail end of the roadie. however I disagree on the distributing component. The floor is tilted for him to give the ball up away from the hoop. The others are not reliable shot-makers.

Anonymous

Yeah yesterday afternoon I was thinking during the game that maybe they should just let steph sit in the 4th unless the 2nd unit starts sputtering. I get that Steph is the guy and all, but it didn't take much to see how tired Steph was. His shots early on were all short. His later shots were off by a ton.. and even when he was on the bench, that look on his face was sheer exhaustion. And not just for the fatigue from playing so hard, all that talk about MVP has got to have affected his psyche as well. He looked like he really wanted to be considered MVP and it felt like he forced a lot of things and didn't really seem to be playing to the flow of the game. Also, Wizards felt like they only gameplanned vs Steph and no one else. If that's the case, why not punch them more with our 2nd unit who were definitely on a roll until Steph came back. :p .. at least until they figured us out. :p

Anonymous

1st Qtr, saw Steph standing still high left wing. I thought I accidentally hit Pause on the remote until I saw other players moving while he stood still. It shows how incredible his game is when you are literally STUNNED when you see him not moving. With so many guys missing action, last game of a 5-game road trip, gotta live with it. I would rather beat Philly and lose to WAS than the other way around. If they can get healthy bodies, this final stretch should put them firmly in a 7-8 seed play in vs Portland or Dallas. I'm licking my chops for PHO.

Gsw4L

Wiggs + Minnesota pick for Siakam. I'd love that trade. I don't trust Wiggs come play off time. Too many holes in his game plus weak ass mentality

Anonymous

I just don’t see why he didn’t start hunting for fouls get himself to the line more since his shot wasn’t really falling.

athleticalchemy

Never know.. I heard MT say Steph reads all the talk just as much as KD. He just internalizes it

Anonymous

Yup, CP3 has no problem having 8 points and 13 assists if it helps the team. Curry just doesn't have that intellectual appreciation for playmaking that Paul has.

athleticalchemy

That’s a dope comp.. y’all must a forgot about what a healthy EG looks like. He been stuck in that Houston system that typecasted him . Again let’s see Beal when it matters and he can’t just do what he want

Anonymous

I felt every time that Steph came in that he killed our momentum. Obviously you can't sit him but clearly wasn't his night, which is understandable after the tear he's been on. But starting from the 2nd quarter there was just a vibe shift every time he came in.

athleticalchemy

Kerr’s rotation methodology is so strange.. why does Mulder deserve anything at this point? Idk

athleticalchemy

I agree KO is a Tailor made six man that’s probably why he’s so sensitive about it. That and $

Anonymous

Steph was due for one of these games bc it was an 8 man rotation and the last game of a road trip, he still can't hype himself as MVP to then produce a "worse player on the floor" type of clunker. Hopefully Lee and JTA comeback soon.

athleticalchemy

No I’m with you. He can prove to be that dude. But as of now it’s a lot of empty calories. Key thing you said “ if the price is right”

Anonymous

This one is all ON KERR, pure and simple. Steph was out of gas and it was obvious from the git go. What coach doesn't bench someone who's exhausted, throwing up bricks and turning the ball over for 3quarters? What good coach doesn't go with his second unit when it's clearly more energized? A coach that's brown-nosing his stars, pandering to chasing record books, MVP stats and Must See TV ratings, everything but Ws. To me this game was a tipping point. They were on their first winning streak of the season and Steph catapulted into the MVP conversation seriously - then Kerr treats this one like a write off and now all that's just smoke. Anyone can see they're a 500 team, period. It won't matter who they trade, who they sign, who gets healthy and who gets hurt; as long as the coach and FO are sending mixed signals, this team is snakebit.

Anonymous

I was completely expecting this, I saw the score in the first quarter and knew even by the Dubbs often slow standards this was heading for a loss one way or another. Credit to the 2nd unit for bringing it back to being respectably close. I thought Steph would have had more sense than to cave in to calling his own number in the MVP discussion. Much better to have let other people do the talking for you. That said I think it's really been the Jokers all along and with Murray out now that case only gets stronger. We all know Wiggins has his flaws but I'm not going to kill him over that missed layup. The more important question is why was the team in that position in the first place? This Washington team at the end of the day is pretty bad despite some of the talent on the their roster. Steph theoretically should have switched to distributing more when his shot wasn't falling. But with Dray on the floor and both of them trying to force the passes I don't even want to think about how ugly that would have gotten. I think this team will be lucky to hold on the 9th seed let alone moving up in the remaining games left to play. I don't get Kerr at this point? What in the hell makes him think Mulder is worth a damn? meanwhile GP2 got signed to a 2nd 10 day contract presumably to get more of a look at him but you barely even play him? Seriously we could have beavers build us a dam with all the dead wood on this roster. Games like this one when most of the normal rotation is gassed from a long road trip should be when you can write it off as a schedule loss and wheel out more of the 3rd unit. But this team barely has 2 units. Light Years ahead my ass, lol.

Anonymous

Going to next season only the splash bros are untouchable!

Daniel Fries

yeah I found myself instinctively thinking "take Steph out" all through his final minutes.I wonder if he'll ever get to the point where he'd ask to come out, recognizing he's hit his limit - because that's the only way it'll ever happen with Kerr.

Anonymous

luv how u questioned whether or not we win this game if steph wouldn’t of checked back in.. I think it messed up our offensive flow especially down the stretch. btw.. on point about Westbrook and his 2k badge lol

Anonymous

Kind of difficult to take Steph out. Afterall, he can always get hot. This is when we miss Klay. Just use Stehp's gravity and let Klay rip!

Anonymous

Golden state has played in 5 of the top 10 most watched games this season. The lakers have 4

Anonymous

Wow. All this reckless talk regarding Steph's IQ on an off night is wild. Poole, Bazemore & Kelly played so well I hated that we lost. If the 2nd unit played the whole 4th, Dubs would've won. With that said, this is probably the 1 game all season that we can say that for so it's silly to overreact to it. ...for those that do, I'd love to see if you're rated a 10/10 at work everyday. It was a frustrating loss, but on to the next one...6th seed incoming-and keep that same pessimistic energy once they get there!

Anonymous

I agree there is constant Knee-jerk reactions by fans. But a 500 record by this point in the season is hard to argue with. So they'll continue to win one, lose one, and making the playoffs is a complete toss-up. The only thing for certain is uncertainty. And the machismo jock mentality that says you must play through pain, and through cold streaks, is real. It influences coaches, even medical staff. Young men have always been treated like cannon fodder. Now load management discriminates for the big stars, but revenue is still the final determinant. Which is why they threw KD into the finals before he was ready, and why they will continue to risk Curry. Why they do everything, as a matter of pure fact.

Anonymous

Alch you spoke on the Hesi yesterday about Jordan’s irrational confidence and his miosis from being around Steph and I wanted to give a proposition and get your take. We’re Steph not to go to the Olympics, how significant would Jordan and Steph being workout befuddles during the summer be? Not every once in a while but if they busted their ass together every day with a legitimate routine. Jordan’s got talent like few have in the league and the irrational that most don’t, but if he were to become slightly better in the shots he chooses, his spots, off ball movement, etc. we might not just have a rotation player but a top 5 piece on a title contender. What do you think?

Nathan Glanzer

Poole fits the system perfectly. I hope to see him in Blue and Gold for as long as possible. I view him as a Hybrid between Klay and Curry a bit.