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Top Gun: Maverick Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-06-25 17:01:00
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2023-06

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Top Gun: Maverick (2022)

Edited Reaction Alongside the regular multi-part full, you now have the option of watching an edited version of the full movie reaction with 10-15mins of Picture-in-Picture. You can watch this edit in the player, or alternatively you can download it to your computer using the button underneath each part.

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Mark McKeown

Full reaction download links to be added shortly

Ryan

Like I said on the first film, Tom Cruise had been trying to get this movie made for a VERY long time. He came close once before in 2012 and approached Tony Scott, who seemed very exciteted, only to mysteriously commit suicide the next day, and it ended up taking a further decade before it finally got done. And you very much get the sense that all that preparation time didn't go to waste, with him and the writers tinkering with what the story could be until all the kinks were worked out. And of course, one major complication was Val Kilmer's throat cancer. The whole crew was adamant that he needed to be in the movie, and it was apparently quite a task to arrange it. And it turned out to be quite fortunate they could get him, as shortly after filming the scene he took a turn for the worse that prevented him from making an appearance in the Willow series on Disney+. Thankfully, he seems to be in a better condition now. And the movie was absolutely worth it, easily offering a more compelling experience than the original film and actually making it richer in retrospect if you watch with this movie in mind. Its Best Picture nomination was absolutely deserved, even if EEAAO was the obvious winner.

Ryan

One oddity about this one: Penny was briefly mentioned in the first film as an admiral's daughter who Maverick had a brief affair with. Which means we can only hope Jennifer Connolly is playing a bit older than her real age here, because, well, remember Labyrinth? That was her at the time of the first Top Gun. And yes, she's playing a younger role there than the 16 years she actually was, but that doesn't improve things much.

Vanessa J McNamara

I love this movie, I can’t help it. I was part of the military life for awhile. My first husband enlisted in the Air Force just after we married. He wasn’t a pilot but his first assignment was in Biloxi, Ms and I’ll never forget the great friends we made there. It’s just nice to see movies that appreciate the military every once in awhile

Thomas Corp

It seems I'm going to be chatty about this film, I apologize for that. I’m also going to apologize right off the bat, in that I’m of the opinion that this movie got oversold. The way people described it, combined with its best picture nomination, I was half expecting the advent of the second coming of New Hollywood. Clearly, I missed something. Fucked if I know WHAT I missed. To be fair, compared to the first film... Well, it’s... Better. I still don’t care for the male macho bullshit which persists, though I concede that it is significantly toned down in this film, thank the fuck Christ, and it’s largely only with Hangman, who, by the way, I looked up about the actor playing him, nothing jumped out that I think you’d know him from. I do remember my brother mentioning the same about the male macho bullshit, saying, “Yeah. It IS still there, but they don’t lean into it as heavily as you would expect.” Speaking of my brother, I got a laugh over the opening montage of the planes and the Kenny Loggins made me quip, “Right, well, that’s my brother happy as a clam with this movie. We can all go home now.” I think a lot of my problem with the film was being completely unable to suspend disbelief that Maverick is still active in the Navy at the rank of captain after I’m assuming close to forty years of service. My dad mentioned the same thing when this first got announced, saying that if he’s served that long, and hasn’t progressed past the rank of captain, realistically, the Navy should have forcibly retired him by the time the film takes place. Even with the narrative reason they gave, it still felt a stretch, and leaves me wondering what Dad would have thought of the reason given. Solid cast. I am aggrieved at the underutilization of Ed Harris in this, though his skills at not flinching were most impressive. Of the new characters, Phoenix and Bob were my favorites. I quite enjoyed Monica Barbaro and Lewis Pullman in the roles. Past a point, I was saying, “I really like these two. We can focus more on this dynamic. Why isn’t the movie about them?” I now demand a Phoenix and Bob spin-off film. I did love how taken with Bob you were, Jess. Maverick’s teaching methods, I think one could make a case for or against. I would say Maverick’s gotten older, and perhaps not quite as reckless as he once was. It still felt like he’s still got an “ego that’s writing checks his body can’t cash”. That’s a line from the first film, right? Thus, I don’t think I'd concur with you saying that he’s severely matured, but, hey, what do I know? I hate to tell you that I didn’t care for the romance plotline in this. I know you said you liked it, to me, it felt superfluous. And that’s not meant, at all, to disparage dear Jennifer Connelly, as that woman is a treasure. The whole romance plot, it felt like the first film of you could cut it out entirely and not lose anything, but then Maverick wouldn’t have “A woman to fight for” as I believe you described it in the first film. I’ll give Maverick credit; he seems to have given up his tactic of following a lady into the women’s restroom. And yes, I am going to keep harping on that. There’s also the annoyance on my part that the film doesn’t even bother to mention Charlie or what happened to her. I get Kelly McGillis didn’t want to come back even if they asked, which they didn’t by the way. Still, given how prominent a part she had, you think they’d let us know what happened to her. Or Viper, now I think about it, though I assume he’s retired or dead, given Tom Skerritt is ninety and probably retired. You said you liked the romance plot this time round, I am glad to hear that.

Thomas Corp

Which brings us to Iceman. I knew in advance that Val Kilmer would be in this. He was the only reason why I considered seeing this in the theaters, even though I never ultimately did. My fair to middling feelings on a lot of the film aside, Val’s scene as Iceman got me right in the heart. Got me misty eyed some. You know it’s serious when in the same scene, Tom Cruise drops the grandstanding and decides to fucking act. Sorry, that sounds really harsh. Then when Iceman dies, it likewise, got me in the heart. Now onto the matter of the plotline of Maverick’s trauma from Goose’s death. And I’m going to be honest and say that I wish the film did better with that. By that I mean, I’m with you completely that you can tell he never got over Goose’s death. And when you apologized about the momentary harping on the toxic “Suck it up” mentality, I said, “No, please do keep harping on it, because I’m right there with you.” The thing that disappointed me was that I hoped they could have dived deeper in that than they did. Specifically, that you could have an analysis of how the Navy failed Maverick in that regard. Because every time the film covers the topic, it becomes apparent that he never processed the trauma and grief, at least not in a healthy way, and only at the end, following the mission, and his and Rooster’s escaping the enemy territory, is he finally starting to really work through it. It’s not completely gone, but he’s now started to actually process in a healthy way. At least, that’s the way I read it. I’m likely off the mark, I probably am, but it is the way I felt, and it had an effect on my enjoyment of the film. Of course, if they went with more of what I was hoping for, perhaps the film would lose a lot of its fun at parts, so maybe it is for the best, particularly seeing as it appears everyone but me loved this film. So, although I didn’t enjoy the film like you did, it does please me to see you quite enjoyed it yourself, Jess. Thank you for the great reaction.

Thomas Corp
>>111497755

I actually looked up both when Labyrinth came out and when it was filmed. It said the film came out the month after Top Gun, and it was filmed in the spring to the fall the year prior, meaning Jennifer was fourteen when they filmed that movie. I know everyone says that you just run with the assumption Penny is significantly older than Jennifer, and I keep saying she goddamn well better be.

Ryan
>>111505468

I'm also very curious if they asked Meg Ryan for an appearance, because there doesn't appear to be any news on that, but killing her off very much feels like she turned them down.

Thomas Corp
>>111505468

Given she too seems to have stayed away from the spotlight for a while, I suspect that if she was approached, Meg Ryan said no to being in this. Annoying though it is they killed her off, at least, in her character’s case, she is mentioned, and it does factor into the plot.

Ryan
>>111505475

You have to wonder what this film would have been like if they'd been able to make it while Kilmer was still in good health. I imagine they'd have to go into more stuff about Iceman's own role in the accident, and Goose's son's feeling over it, which they naturally wanted to avoid in his condition with the film they ended up making.

Thomas Corp
>>111505475

That would have been interesting if that had been something they were able to do. I think I would have liked it a lot if they had explored that angle of what happened with Goose. I completely understand why they didn’t, given Val Kilmer’s health struggles. Had they been able to, that would have been intriguing to tackle that plotline.

YodatheHobbit

Hell yeah, can't wait to watch this reaction.