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Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Full Reaction! (Patreon)

Published:
2023-06-10 17:01:00
Imported:
2023-06

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Dates for the last two movie reactions: 

Star Trek V: June 24th

Star Trek VI: July 15th 

*Just a note that there will probably be a little break after the final movie before I continue on my Star Trek journey. June and July are BUSY to say the very least. So I will probably resume the reactions in August. In the meantime, we will discuss and vote for what will be reacted to next on this tier. 

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Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Full Reaction

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Ryan

After the extremely heavy last two movies, there was an active choice to make this one something that would just be fun. A story about the whole planet being possibly destroyed might sound like an odd way to get there, but they managed to pull it off. There was also a question of whether Nimoy could be as effective a director while also having a major acting role, which he was able to avoid in the last one, but he pulled it off very well, and the way better audience response to this film was likely a big factor in his decision to make his next directed film another comedy, Three Men and a Baby. This film is also quite notable as the final Star Trek project to be created with this crew as the only part of the franchise that existed, with The Next Generation starting the following year. You may also have noticed that the score is quite different, as this is the only Trek project to use composer Leonard Rosenman, also known for the likes of Rebel Without a Cause, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Barry Lyndon, and Ralph Bakshi's The Lord of the Rings, with him actually completely transplanting some tunes from the latter into this one. The movie was the biggest box office success of the franchise until the 2009 reboot film, and continues to be especially well-regarded as a movie that even people who know little about the franchise can enjoy (though I have to question what they'd make of the opening and closing acts that play very heavily off the events of the previous two films).

Ryan

If that punk on the bus looked familiar, you recently saw him as one of the monster hunters in Werewolf by Night!

Thomas Corp

Jess, there be WHALES, here. Voyage Home is one of the more revered entries of the series. As you say, it’s fun. Alas, much as I’d like to, I am unable to include in my top five of the franchise. It would be top five were it not for Galaxy Quest being such a perfect Star Trek film that it makes my top three of the franchise, and it edges this film out of the top five. But this film is definitely one that is most enjoyable; a great time. Start by discussing the bananas, crackers, and nuts plot. Your various reactions as you were discovering the plot were reactions that I did not know I needed in my life. You sum it up like most fans do: ridiculous on paper, but it is lovely and heartwarming. Roger Ebert said it well in his review, “When they finished writing the script for Star Trek IV, they must have had a lot of silly grins on their faces. This is easily the most absurd of the Star Trek stories - and yet, oddly enough, it is also the best, the funniest and the most enjoyable in simple human terms. I'm relieved that nothing like restraint or common sense stood in their way.” and later in his review, he wrote, “It's at about this point that the script conferences must have really taken off. See if you can follow this: The Enterprise crew determines that the probe is zeroing in on Earth, and that if no humpback songs are picked up in response, the planet may well be destroyed. Therefore, the crew's mission becomes clear: Because humpback whales are extinct in the 23rd century, they must journey back through time to the 20th century, obtain some humpback whales, and return with them to the future - thus saving Earth. After they thought up this notion, I hope the writers lit up cigars.” I got a big laugh when you discovered the time-travel aspect. Specifically, when you asked, “He said time warp?” I chimed in with, “Yes, Jess, and not just a jump to the left.” No sooner do I say that, you quipped, “Like not just a jump to the left?” which gave me a real good laugh. And during the time warp, I was singing, “But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insa-a-a-ane.” And your reaction to the time warp was one for the books. The ludicrous plot filling you with joy was life giving. Knowing your love for animals, I did suspect you’d appreciate that aspect of the whales in this film. One thing that crosses my mind throughout the film is given it appears to be spring, combined with the crew traveling to 1986, they could be at or around my brother’s birthday, which is neat. Gillian is a great character. Catherine Hicks was terrific in the role. Yes, great that the crew gets their continued moments to shine. I KNEW it was coming, Jess, that you would be commenting on Spock’s beanie. Since it was not present, I suspect it tragically was lost with the Enterprise. Or hopefully, they packed it with Spock’s belongings, and it is with his mom, Amanda, lovely to see Jane Wyatt play her again by the way. Other highlights were you wanting Spock to jump into the tank and comfort the whales, mind-meld, and say, “Say “good night” Gracie.” and Gracie replying, “Good night, Gracie.” And, unfortunately, no moment of Kirk being fabulous striking a pose atop either of the whales, despite his flair for dramatic grandstanding. Shame. Oh, you saying you were wanting to see that had me in stitches. He did have some STRONG spirit gum for his hairpiece, or simply a swimming double. Concerning the bookend aspects of the plot, I love how the crew surrenders themselves and are willing to face the consequences. The scenes of Sarek get you right in the heart. And it causes the tears to flow when the crew sees the new Enterprise. Scotty especially gets me seeing the tears in his eyes, and Uhura placing her hand on his shoulder is one of the sweetest things. I LOVE that you loved this film, Jess. As to your looking forward to the next one, to speak the plain truth, I kind of wish we could just skip past that one and go straight to Star Trek VI. There’s one specific part in that I'm particularly not keen on revisiting, even if it does happen to be one of the only scenes that’s any good in the film. I imagine it will hurt a lot seeing the scene again this time round. But, then again, I suppose that’s my problem, and my problem alone to contend with. Again, I loved that you loved the film, and your reaction incited so much glee, it was wonderful, Jess, thank you so much!

Ryan
>>110454699

And if you're going to have a wacky time travel adventure, what better way than in a vehicle you stole from Christopher Lloyd?

Saltire

This film couldn't be any more 1980's if it tried! We had a picture of the poster for this film up when I was in primary school and I was always fascinated by it. The whale story never really gripped me, but I think this was perhaps the best Star Trek film to show the crew's chemistry, and they are all clearly having a 'whale of a time' (sorry, but had to!). :D

Saltire
>>110454699

I don't mind Star Trek V, there is some very good stuff in it.

Anonymous

Very much enjoyed as always!

Thomas Corp
>>110454699

Yeah, that is amusing the coincidence of the ship belonging to Christopher Lloyd prior to it traveling through time. Replying to Saltire, fair enough. Personally, it would be last on my ranking of at least the original series films. If you say you don’t mind it, that’s great. I do hope Jess likes it well enough.

Anonymous

Not much to add really except for a note about the artsy time travel montage. It is a bit out there but you can hear out of context audio clips from later in the film. In a way as a viewer, we are experiencing time travel ourselves.

Ryan
>>110454699

Her reaction to "Hello, computer" was also everything I was hoping for. I don't often laugh out loud while watching movies, but that one did it on my first viewing.

Thomas Corp
>>110454699

Yeah, that was a phenomenal part of the reaction. And yes, that scene is a hoot that makes you laugh out loud.

Janel Rodriguez

Star Trek III blew my mind as a teen and made me chomp at the bit for the release of this film. I went to Star Trek conventions in between those releases and saw Leonard Nimoy in person and he mentioned that the next film would be about whales and the audience was kind of skeptical! I live in NYC , so one time coming home from school I came across a row of plastered poster-sized ads for ST IV and I tore one off the wooden siding of a scaffold or construction site (wherever is had been plastered to). I also of course saw the movie opening weekend and as we waited in line inside the lobby of the movie house, we heard a huge roar come up from the audience watching the movie before us inside the theater (near the end of the film). We wondered what it was about. When we actually saw the film ourselves, I understood when MY audience roared at the sight of the Enterprise-A,. I've seen this movie at least 20 times. And I love it as much as III The Search for Spock (just as you do) though the vibe is totally different.

Josef Schiltz

There's some beautifully deep emotional poetry in the last minimalist dialogue between Leonard and Mark. "Do you have a message for your mother?" "Yes, tell her . . . I feel fine." I can't watch that without tearing up.

Josef Schiltz
>>110456552

Spock: "Ah . . . . A joke? A play on words." Sarek: "Their humour is something I have never quite grasped." Spock: "Hm. It is a taste that has to be acquired." Sarek: "Of that I am certain."

Thomas Corp
>>110488120

Yeah, that scene gets me something fierce as well. A beautiful moment.

Dave Ford

Honestly, If i were those two whales, i'd have answered back "We're the only two left. The bastards on the land killed the rest of us. Kill them. Kill them all."

Vanessa J McNamara

This is my favourite one of the bunch, and I’m not alone. Kahn is revered by many, but I would say this one rivals it in popularity. For me, it’s one of those movies that if i sat down for just a few minutes I would finish the whole thing. It has so much heart and I love it ❤️ You’re going to get varying opinions on the next one. Don’t take it too much to heart. A lot of people had those kind of opinions about 3 and we all know how much you love it. Anyway, you know the drill. You’ll form your own opinion

Joshua Langweil

Loved the reaction. You should do the tng movies and then Picard.

Alvin Cura

Re: the space. No worries. Jess. That set is Monterey Aquarium (which is in Monterey not Sausalito). There is no whale tank there. Those are animatronics.

Brodie Vickers

Walter Koenig: When we woke up, we had these bodies. Fry: Say it in Russian. Walter Koenig: [groans] Ven ve voke up, ve had these wodies. Fry: [delighted] Eeeee! Now say "nuclear wessels". Walter Koenig: NO!