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Anonymous

Kanan's master was Depa Bilaba (and her master was Mace Windu), which the GI references when they first fight. She was in the films as one of the side High Council members, but wasn't there in the Clone Wars as she left the Council to train Kanan. Here are images of them both in the last arc of TCW and Tales Of The Jedi (in the gif I've included, he's marvelling at Ahsoka, as we all do!! : https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mZZ5eqo-7zk/maxresdefault.jpg https://64.media.tumblr.com/8e225d8a3df78f7a33803354becfddbe/042db30f09455695-c3/s540x810/9e8d6d2eea8af11ce454c91693205bfa5734544e.gif We start with the full on Imperial March with the Lambda shuttle surrounded by TIE's, straight out of Return Of The Jedi, and it holds good old Tarkin of all people. Things are getting serious for our rebel friends. He contradicts himself at the start telling everyone the Jedi all died out, when he says ironically that they don't have anyone to deal with them, giving the Grand Inquisitor shade. I think he's doing this for the general troopers behind him though to say that Kanan can't be a Jedi, so that the troops won't be disheartened if they come up against him, and that he'll catch this 'imposter' so they won't have anything to worry about. With you having seen Rogue One and Andor now Jess, you can see what Tarkin's means about our Spectres being more principled than other rebel cells, and we know he's talking about Saw Gerrera, and probably Luthen and Cassian's squads now. Our group here will kill, but only when necessary, but they aren't ruthless like these others we have now seen. He's also right when he says that for them to become a credible threat, these cells have to unify, which hasn't happened yet. Then he has the two low-level officers executed by the GI, not only because of their incompetence, but they are allowing the rebels to be a challenge to their authority, and that there are still Jedi out there fighting back. He will tolerate no more errors though, failure will have consequences. I love the scene with Kanan and Ezra on the Ghost platform. We can see Ezra has had his confidence dented with what happened last episode, where he thought there were others on Lothal fighting back, when it was shown they were stooges for the Empire. And this makes him feel like he and the crew are the only ones in the Outer Rim fighting back, and that if this plan goes awry, then he could lose the crew and be on his own again. Kanan responding though that they can't live in fear, they have to risk it and potentially sacrifice for the greater cause; its a lesson taught to him as a young Jedi, but that he's now seeing how true it is for himself and the others. Then Kanan does that very thing in the next scene, buying time for the rest to escape, at the cost of himself. Ezra's message is a call to arms. He's took on board lessons from his parents and the crew to tell others listening, to fight back, as things are only getting worse; and if they don't, it will be too late and the Empire will have total control over all their lives. Note on the screens, Sabine's Phoenix logo being rotated, and looking so like the Rebel Alliance logo down the line - its starting. Many thought when we watched Andor that there might be a reference to Ezra's message in it in the last episode, as this takes place pretty much exactly in the same month or so, as what happened on Ferrix and Maarva's message. I'm glad they didn't show Ezra's message as its showing that there are other places across the galaxy, where the spark of rebellion is commencing... Onto episode 14 and this is Chopper's episode! First he shows a sweeter side to him - for a bit! - when he refuses to leave the Walker until he got info about Kanan, though was unsuccessful and had to be literally grabbed from Zeb; then when he wheels into Kanan's quarters, he shows visible signs of sadness. He may be a little maniac, but he does care for some of our crew, even risking getting in Hera's bad books (and he does not want to do that!) by causing a diversion whilst the others head off on their mission against Hera's orders. We then see the other side of him later in the episode, infiltrating the imperial cruiser, getting the info on Kanan's file, then as he makes his escape, he spaces four stormtroopers! Then he throws that droid off the ship. The Ghost has room for only one droid - him!!! He acts like a cat when he flicks that droid out, as cats always deliberately knock things off of tables and stuff. What a glorious little pest he is! Why is Kanan so damn cool, even when he's getting tortured! He's got to be in the top 5 coolest Jedi in canon. Freddie Prinze Jr is also brilliant playing him. Anyway our crew better get a move on before Kanan gets transferred onto Mustafar. He's not wrong when he says its where Jedi go to die, if they aren't turned and become Inquisitors there, then they'll be tortured to death or killed by Vader.

Anonymous

Yeah, seasons two and three are longer than season one. The final season goes back to being the same length as the first season, if I'm recalling correctly, it has been some time. Either way, we should have a lot of fun. Start by talking about your feelings of The Imperial March. It’s not your fault. After all, John Williams created the best goddamn piece of music ever in The Imperial March. It is only natural that upon hearing it, you dance to it as you do. Yes, the situation becomes quite serious when Grand Moff Tarkin arrives. I love how his look in this isn’t quite his look in the original trilogy, though close to it. Rather he looks like Peter Cushing in the Hammer Horror films that he was in the years shortly before he appeared in Star Wars. Tarkin came to work, reading the others to filth, and having the two’s heads lopped off clean as dandelion heads. There is a reason he’s in my top ten favorites of Star Wars. The plot of the group is great. I loved how you said, “So rude!” when it reveals about Trayvis. Me, I yell, “You no good dirty rotten stool pigeon!” Inspiring that the group decides to send their messages of their own. Like you say, “Can’t stop the signal.” Then again, I remember well Three Days of the Condor. You inquired about Kanan’s master, Depa Bilaba, that was mentioned in the previous episode, though easy to miss if you don’t know what to listen for. You have seen her, though she didn’t receive the greatest significant focus as others in what you have seen. The action sequences were great in this, I loved you commenting on “The old bob and weave.” I’m partial to the Peter Falk Serpentine maneuver myself. The situation becomes perilous upon Kanan being taken. Good to see his resolve is strong, leading me to quote Tarkin by saying, “Charming to the last.” I love your growing love for Hera. Sidenote, when you called her an HBIC, that threw me for a small loop saying, “HBIC? What’s that mean?” I had to look that up. Halfway through doing so, the gear clicked in my head on the likely meaning, still I decided to look it up just to be sure. Turns out I was right. It is difficult for Hera because yeah, pragmatically, the smart move would be to leave Kanan. I love how everyone bands together to come up with a plan to save Kanan. Lovely moment of Chopper being the little murder bot, saying, “This Shady Bunch ain’t big enough for the two of us, buster!” Yeah, definitely a psychotic little son of a bitch, Chopper is. I’m with you on loving the dynamic between Zeb and Sabine. Then there’s the moment of your reaction where you said, “I’m going to cry!” to which, I dryly noted, “Yeah. Quite probably, yes.” Oh, these were lovely reactions, Jess. I very much look forward to your reaction to the first season finale. Shame it’s going to be the day before your birthday and not on the day itself as that would be lovely to share with you the episode in question on your birthday. Nevertheless, I will be watching the reaction with great interest. Thanks again for the terrific reaction, Jess.

Anonymous

That opening scene is a thing of beauty. I think Tarkin is making a distinction in that he’s saying the Jedi of Yoda or Obi-Wan's caliber are all dead. (The two men in question aren’t but he doesn’t know that.) Thus, he’s viewing the likes of Kanan and Ezra as pretenders, so to speak. Though, yes, part of it is probably like you say, he doesn’t wish to inspire an atmosphere of disheartenment among the ranks. It is interesting revisiting this show after seeing the other groups and/or more ruthless individuals like Saw or Luthen. Yeah, I think it’s better that Maarva’s speech stands on its own. I'm waiting for the next season to see if Kino’s magnificent speech spread across the galaxy, through the efforts of anyone who survived the prison break. I'm going to be completely honest in that when I first heard about the casting for Kanan, I grew very concerned when I heard Freddie Prinze Jr would be in the role. Reason for this being his previous filmography did not lend itself too much confidence in his acting ability. Therefore, I was very happily proven wrong when he brought the talent to Kanan, leading me to say, “Goddamn, this man can act! I stand corrected, sir, well done.” And yes, if they don’t get Kanan off Mustafar, there’ll be a hot time in the old town tonight.

Ryan

Andy Serkis has said as far as he's concerned, Kino survived and is still kicking ass for the rebellion.

Anonymous

Yes Thomas thats true. If say 500 Jedi survived Order 66 out of the 10,000 or so around pre-war, then Vader and the Inquisitors have had 15 years to find and finish off the majority of the remainder. So that by this time, you could count the remaining Jedi on two hands, and only 3 of them (if you count Ahsoka which we should) are of significant power with Yoda and Obi-Wan being the other two. Kanan and Ezra are trying to keep the religion alive, but they are still finding their feet and struggling along; while being chased down. Its no wonder come A New Hope's time in 4 years from this point, that the Emperor is confident enough in his own powerbase, that he can dissolve the Senate once and for all and have the Moff's in charge of important systems all answering to him, whilst Vader finishes off the rest of the Jedi. On Kanan and Freddie Prinze, I was right with you when this was airing. I didn't follow the series when it was airing and binged it (and Resistance) after Clone Wars, and so for a long time I didn't click with Kanan, as he didn't feel very Jedi-like to me to begin with, and with him being voiced by Freddie, an actor who I associated with low-standard comedy tv and films, it took a while for me to come round to him. Thats the point though, he's a Jedi like we haven't seen before in canon (though have seen since), struggling along with himself after his entire world falls from under him when the Jedi get wiped out, so he has given all that up and lived as an outcast for over a dozen years at this point; and only now since he has a responsibility in training Ezra, that he is coming back to the Jedi Arts. Disney were not keen on Freddie being casted in the role, but Filoni was adamant, and got his way, and as usual with Filoni, it was the right decision, as Freddie does nail the role and Kanan has become a real favourite Star Wars character for me (probably in my top 10 at this point, and definitely in my top 5 Jedi).

Anonymous

I'm not fond of Kino remaining alive, his arc ended beautifully by saving his fellow inmates whilst knowing he couldn't escape. I know Andy Serkis was speaking about all that at Celebration though, so perhaps we may see him again in season 2 of Andor; and I'm sure we'll definitely see him reprise the role of Snoke soon enough as the journey leading up to the sequels is developed further.

Lynn Walker

Love all this Hera appreciation!!!

Anonymous

Good point on Tarkin not looking like Cushing in ANH, but rather from his Hammer films, though he didn't have quite the cheekbones he developed by the time he was filming Star Wars. I believe he lost his wife shortly before filming, and it devastated him, and he became rather gaunt going into the 80's. They did that as well with Christopher Lee for his Tales Of The Jedi look for Dooku, where they went back to the older films (pre-Dracula at that as well) and based their model on that look, rather than the more angular one in Clone Wars. Chris Lee and Peter Cushing were best friends as well, which for me is warming to know. Also Cushing filmed almost all of his scenes in ANH, wearing slippers (which I'm sure you knew Thomas, but is still a hell of a bit of trivia!). I kind of love Tarkin as well. He is a monster, but you can see in his way he feels he is bringing order to the galaxy. He does have a fair bit of free will to enact his policies too free of the Emperor, which would not be common in the Empire, in which Palpatine generally has everything under his own control. It is hard for Hera for many reasons to leave Kanan behind; but it shows just what a great leader she is, that she is willing to make and accept hard choices from herself and her crew. Kanan may be the leader of the group, but Hera is the glue that holds it all together.

Anonymous

Yeah, the looks for both Dooku and Tarkin are consistently drawn from the Hammer films, and it’s wonderful. The friendship between Sir Christopher and Peter was one of the sweetest things. I do know about the tidbit with the slippers. That's such a great tidbit. Yes, most impressive that Tarkin attains the power that he has considering the control that the Emperor wields. Well spoken about Hera.

Anonymous

Right, given the timeline, combined with the carnage that Order 66 and subsequent carnage from the Emperor, Darth Vader, and/or the Inquistorious, it leads Tarkin to hold the reasonable belief that “The Jedi Order is extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.” And the Emperor being confident enough to dissolve the Senate letting “The regional governors now have direct control over their territories.” I was a bit behind at the beginning, but I caught Rebels as it aired. Very much what you say, given Freddie Prinze Jr’s past roles, he is one of the furthest things from being a first choice for a Jedi. Yet, as we see, he proved us wrong. With Kino, I assume Andy is jesting and/or indulging in a little fantasy as to Kino’s fate. I love the ambiguity of never knowing with absolute certainty one way or another about his fate. If we were to see Kino again, I'd be happy with that. If not, I'd be happy with that too. It’d be interesting seeing him come back as Snoke.

Anonymous

I think if Andy were to come back as Kino, it would be in a flashback with Andor himself, or perhaps he didn't jump and we see the outcome of what happens to him. I think he jumped though and drowned, as it was his choice, something he didn't have in that prison.

Anonymous

The ideas you mention would be satisfactory. If they went with any of those ideas, that would work for me.

Ryan

He also reportedly smelled like fresh flowers, which caused Carrie Fisher some real difficulty talking about his “foul stench.”

Ryan

Cushing also worked with David Prowse as Dr. Frankenstein and the Monster, which I’m pretty sure Vader breaking out of the platform at the end of Revenge of the Sith is a reference to.

Jenny Chalek

I'm here for the Hera stans. HBIC indeed!