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Dave on Dave: Skeets Giveth and Skeets Taketh Away (Patreon)

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2023-05-01 23:57:37
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2024-06

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Dave on Dave is an ongoing series in which David Cho and David Chen gather together to discuss life and work. Also, usually David Cho has some harsh words to say about David Chen's stuff!

In this episode, David Cho and David Chen discuss motivation, malaise, and the state of the media industry today. Plus: Some thoughts on Twitter vs. Bluesky.

PATRONS: You can get this audio in your podcast app by going to patreon.com/davechen, going to the "My Membership" section, and copying and pasting the RSS link to your podcast app.

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Patrick Neon

I‘d love if This week in streaming be less about one single tv show and more akin the beginning of a filmcast episode. Riffing about a couple of interesting and random topics around the streaming culture. I also think that might be more entertaining for you (Dave Chen), as you wouldn‘t have the pressure of preparing as much and watching episodes of a bad tv show that you dont want to check out in the first place.. And Dave Cho could be the IDEAL partner for this!! :) I also wouldnt mind if the cohost seat is rotating. As long as you Dave chen is involved all will be entertaining.

CDMatthew

These Dave on Dave conversations are fascinating; I'm enjoying the give-and take between you two very smart and reflective guys, and I'm learning a lot from both of you. A few thoughts from this latest edition: It seems to me there's a tension between the kind of business-planning process or mindset that David Cho advocates (which sounds to my ear as logical and formulaic), and the creative / artistic perspective that Dave Chen brings to his work. It must be very challenging and tricky for Dave Chen to balance these two different perspectives...or perhaps it's better to say that for Dave Chen to integrate David Cho's business-minded approach into his creative edeavors might be scary, the fear being that foussing too much on the goal-oriented business side of things could potentially mess with the creative, artistic process that's necessary for Dave Chen to MAKE THE THINGS THAT HE MAKES. Maybe there's an analogy in the movie business where the relationship betweeen a producer (or producers) and the director can either be fraught with issues and conflicts, or--if the producer is supportive and allows the director freedom enough to pursue their vision and process--can lead to amzingly successful results. (I think here of the freedom Keaton had working independently in the 1920's when he made an astonishing number of masterpiece comedies, and how when MGM took over and tried to fit Keaton into the studio system, he sank into depression and his career took a turn for the worse.) I don't know how to address this tension, but I think it's there. Regarding the Decoding TV "dilemma" that Dave seems to be grappling with: I have to agree with David Cho here that Dave Chen is tending to sell himself short. As a listener, I'm actually enjoying hearing different guests or podcast partners join in discussions about particular shows, and I'd like to hear more...perhaps each guest or pod partner for a particular series is someone who knows "the world" or milieu of the series very well, in a way that Dave Chen doesn't. Or at least brings a very different perspective or mindset from Dave that will create a pleasing kind of tension or chemistry leading to compelling conversations and anlalyses. To me, Dave is the ANCHOR of Decoding TV (or Decoding Culture, or whatever it gets called if the aperture widens), and I'm simply not convinced that he's going to find the perfect podcast partner for DTV that would work over a long period.....I see (and hear) Decoding TV as a much more flexible kind of show than the The Filmcast. In fact, Dave Chen may NEVER find a podcast partner or panel that he "settles in" with for the long haul; Dave may need to live with the anxiety of NOT having a regular, ongoing podcast partner for DTV, and keep taking risks with the format. As the poet William Stafford once said: "I must be willingly fallible to deserve a place in the realm where miracles happen." Lastly, it would be GREAT to hear both of you Daves do some analysis of each of the social media platforms that are now competing to be "the next twitter," though I think the ones that will win out will NOT be trying "replace" or imitate twitter, but be something else entirely that still satisfies the sense of connection and community that twitter once had. Personally, I'm enjoying Post.news, and have been on there since its beta phase...and part of the enjoyment has been seeing it evolve, and seeing how transparent its engineers and executives have been throughout. I'm also using Substack a lot more than I used to, and like what I'm seeing there in terms of new features that increase engagement. Apologies for the long comment...self-editing is not my strong point. Thanks as always for all you're doing, and all you're sharing with subscribers. Cheers, Matthew in Boston (@cdmatthewmurphy on Twitter and Post)