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Hey! While taking my late-Christmas-break at the beginning of February, progress slowed down, and although I was still tinkering with things, I wasn't able to make anything substantial. This means I'm not able to put out anything reasonably playable at the beginning of March (if not delayed until the beginning of April).

Most of the time was spent on prototyping technical features, which are now used to introduce a form of Voyeurism. This is what the update was meant to be, but since it's delayed, I want to get your opinion on it while it's still in a deep development phase.

Here are the core features that are going to be implemented with the upcoming update.


Peeping

No one knows what you will see when peeking through a window into your neighbor's house. Any Sim can do it, through any window, at any house, or even public venue.

Yet there isn't always something to look at, which can get quite boring (Bored Moodlet). But once some naked bodies get into view, it can get pretty exciting (Excited Moodlet).

Be careful though, getting caught can ruin your reputation, especially when the owner of the house sees you, and then it's time to run away (Caught Moodlet, Running Away).


Showtime

When naked bodies present themselves in the window, especially through sexual activities, the showtime begins.

Sims are encouraged to get naked and have sex in certain rooms, as if some greater power made them do it, to increase the chance of showtime occurring (Sex Autonomy).

And if spotted, at the right time, maybe even you can be a part of the showtime when invited inside (Initiating Sex).



Sexual Gratification

Peeping Sims will rarely join up on the action, but the pressure of peeking on sexy bodies has to be released somehow. That is when masturbating comes into play, which might help, but it definitely increases the chance of getting caught... but that's part of the fun.


Shady Business

Why waste the value of showtime that you might never see again - take pictures! Sims will automatically take pictures when something is happening. And if that's okay with you, it's possible to sell them on the internet for some money.

A picture can be either of a naked Sim or a Sim in sex, each is worth a different price. Think about it though, interest to buy pictures of the same Sims all the time decreases, which lowers the value. Constantly selling the same content will not be as profitable.


Peeping Tom

Where is the fun if you need to do everything yourself. Enjoy the thrill of being observed and tease the peeping Sims. A male or female Sim will randomly visit your neighborhood, looking for a naked occasion. Will you be one of the naked Sims teasing the voyeur?


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I'm hoping to get all of this finished and polished in the coming weeks. And I'm interested to learn what do you think and if there is anything obvious that I'm missing that could improve the features explained above.

Comments

Anonymous

Love the idea. Works well with Get Famous too.

Anonymous

Oh this is amazingggg.

MadhattersTwin

Wow! Love it! Great ideas and great work as always, Turbo!

Anonymous

Is a window required? What if someone is swimming naked in the backyard, can I peep on them? Can it be linked to a bush or something?

Anonymous

celebrity nudes should be like high demand and never get old...what if someone finds out their pics online?

wickedwoohoo

The technicality of this is troubling. I can see how something like, taking a picture over the fence could work, but only a few fences are low enough where that would work (while windows are very flexible with height). And a bush seems reasonable, but you would need to get into a Sim private property unseen in the first place 🤔

wickedwoohoo

Very good point, adds another layer of challenge, to snap pics of high regard Sims.

Anonymous

Since you're working on peeping, it might be interesting to get those drones to do more than the nothing they currently do. The first thing I thought of when i purchased one was that I could use it to peep on my neighbors wives and daughters...... but no, it was completely worthless :(

Anonymous

it would be quite something, if you could use some of those pictures for blackmailing :D maybe getting money so the pictures WON'T end up on the internet. Or - you know - other services to save one poor victims reputation.

Anonymous

Oh yay, I was wondering why nobody made a peeping mod haha It would be really cool if there was an option where parents could spot their teenagers having sex through the window and get upset about it haha And for the wicked whims mod, are you planning on making something with wives that are carrying someone elses baby? Paternity test or something maybe hehe

wickedwoohoo

I would need to investigate what they are capable of. I only looked into them in terms of trying to get them compatible with sex interactions (which didn't work). Sucks though that it would be exclusive to just the Get Famous expansion.

Cinjan

I love this idea. Is there some way to change the reputation to better if you have a pic of you sold? Or maybe a "scandal"

wickedwoohoo

That did enter my mind when thinking about the shady business you can do. Perhaps it could be thing.

wickedwoohoo

Sims do react to sex accordingly when peeping, so parents will actually get upset. :D The main barrier for Sims having babies left and right is how the genealogy tree works. I don't know much about its inner works, but without editing it to make things unknown, it takes away the fun. Right now it's hard to dedicate time to figure it all out for this one thing.

MrBASins

Great Idea what could be cool about this is them trying to be sneaky without getting seen or caught.

vladeemer

Speaking of reputation loss for being caught peeping, it'd be cool to see the reputation system more impacted by sexual events. Been caught cheating? Having sex in public? Take a reputation hit 1x per week at a base value X times Y no. of witnesses and/or cheated on partners [to show the impact of people talking about what you've been up to) - Z no. of weeks -1 [to prevent permanent reputation tanking] [formula then would be something like (x * y) - (z-1) = total negative relationship impact].

Roxbury20

sound nice ….Thank....the picture could tie in with the new blackmail feature.... yea I like

wickedwoohoo

Yes, that is explained as part of the incoming relationship enhancements from the most recent update of WickedWhims.

DeliaDeetz

FINALLY!!!! I have been asking for this for ages lol So glad to see this up on the drawing board. Just keep in mind not all voyeurs are dirty perverts that do it from windows and bushes. lol There is a huge open fetish surrounding V & E. It would be cool if exhibitionists could invite people to watch. Win win situation. Or if the Voyeur could actually openly ask to watch sims have sex. They all travel to the location and have fun. There are also a few branches to that particular fetish like upskirts, hidden cams and toilet cams. Really any sort of place you can hide a camera. Computer cams. Instead of just watch porn they could watch voyeur cams. Those are a real thing. I wish you could hash out those damn cameras from GF. Because "plant hidden camera" would be an amazing feature. Also, could you make the pee anywhere option autonomous when there is no toilet available and have the sims use the outdoors? If that's possible. In a public place where all the toilets are being used for other activities and my poor sim is doing the pee pee dance because no one wants a golden shower. lol

Anonymous

For the sim being spied on, what about flirty, embarrassed, or other moodlets after being spied on or being looked at naked?

XXXagent

The concept and options, along with Wild Guys animations are going to be great in game, thank you.

Anonymous

This is really fantastic, Turbo. Thank you for all that you do! <3

Marvin

Great stuff. Not really my crank, peaking into windows, but if it can get it so at least male sims get turned on from a nearby naked female sim, I'm all for it. Cuz that just was just bad simulation for a sim to not care.

Marvin

I hope it isn't like Sims 3 Kinky World were a sim gets naked and the voyeur sim runs out side to look into the window. That was slap head wrong.

Nisa K.

I can't find the download link????? It's not at the bottom of the post?????? Kidding, looks like it's going to be a very fun update, can't wait to see it!

Kedokata

Will we be able to disable the peepers? In Kinky World I got really tired of having a constant stream of creepers looking into my Sims' house throughout the day (and night). I don't mind at all when new features get added that I don't care for, but I do mind if they're not optional.

Anonymous

Can't wait for this release I think this will be a lot of fun maybe even an add element for strangerville

Anonymous

this is AWESOME! Might a sim who is mean, beat up the peeping Tom? that would be cool if that happened.

Anonymous

Sounds good! Maybe those photos could be used to blackmail the participants, financially or sexually? Can we choose or discard which people will be apt to be a random voyeur?

Mortiferus

Will this be included in WW or is it an seperated Mod?

Anonymous

YAY! I've been waiting for this. ty

Lindsey (Shedevil22)

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333 Will we be able to play as the peeping Sim as well? This gives me a great idea for a obsessive sim turned lover!

Tiger

so when will this be going out it looks and cool

Simmin Nikki

OMG! I am so EXCITED for this!!!! I can't wait.

Anonymous

Last couple things worked on were kinda...Meh for me, but this looks sweet, looking forward to this!

Athena Apollos

This DOES make the Voyeur trait more exciting...

Athena Apollos

But I also can't shake the creepy vibe...

Anonymous

Hey! Short answer: yes. Longer answer: Yes, and it's first explained under Peeping. TURBODRIVER explains that you can be the one being peeped on at the end under Peeping Tom.

Anonymous

Hello! This will be included in WW when it is released and not as a separate mod.

Anonymous

Hi! TURBODRIVER replied to an earlier comment about blackmail, and said that it did enter his mind when he was first thinking about it. It may or may not end up in the final product. :) As for your second question, I will be sure TURBODRIVER see's it.

Anonymous

oh yea i cant wait

Daggett Beaver

Yes!! I have been wanting this for a while. Right now, I have to tell a sim to watch sex for them to want to, um, release. And that obviously doesn't work if I'm not in control of that sim. I'm hoping NPC sims will "watch sex" on their own soon.

Gina Holloway

This sounds naughty but also fun

LaDonna Bugg

LOL!! Just keeps getting more and more interesting and fun. I love how you keep real 100%!!!

Anonymous

Totally incidental for me, but sound fun anyway. I just hope there will be a way to control the number of peeping toms. And i'm wandering how it will react with the "private dwelling" lot trait. I already have enough with all those fans and paparazzis... x)

Anonymous

Amazing idea!!!

wickedwoohoo

Think I might make it so when the peeping Sim is taking a picture, there is a chance of getting spotted by someone indoors. That could result in an embarrassed or flirty outcome.

wickedwoohoo

Yeah, worth of the pictures should depend on the Sim itself. That can definitely be tweaked over time. For blinds, with the current approach, they don't actually have an effect. That is mainly caused by the difficulty of telling if they are actually covering things or not. As well as the limited number of available windows just because you want to decorate rooms. It makes sense that they would obstruct the view, but in gameplay they would be nothing more than frustrating.

wickedwoohoo

I will see what I can do about that. It makes sense that athletic Sims might attempt to beat up the peeping Sim before they run away.

wickedwoohoo

Won't really be a trait, as I wanted all Sims to be able to peep whenever you want to do it. :D

wickedwoohoo

They will watch, not openly though. A voyeur in this case is peeping, hence the focus on windows.

wickedwoohoo

Can't say you would be able to control the number of peeping Sims. I'm intending to introduce intentionally designed Sims for this purpose, but I think it should be possible to create your own with a bit of cheating.

rénette

oh yeah it' absolut fantastical^^

Anonymous

super buena me encanto se va pareciendo a laas animciones de oniki claro que las tuyas turbo las superan . genio!!!.

Anonymous

Maybe these terms could be useful: "Voyeurism vs Scopophilia - What's the difference?" (<a href="http://wikidiff.com/voyeurism/scopophilia)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://wikidiff.com/voyeurism/scopophilia)</a>

Anonymous

Does the price of the photos increase if the person is famous?

instantmagic

Sounds like fun. I myself have never tried to look in a sims window because I thought the game did not put them there inside until you officially visit that lot.

Anonymous

I think this would be great fun to have in the game; it'll add to the adventures your sims can face, and things you can do with the sims!

wickedwoohoo

You can't actually look into windows of lots you are not currently visiting, but if you travel to a lot, you can peek inside without knocking on the door.

Anonymous

Hello! This has already been brought up several times so TURBODRIVER is going to investigate adding a price increase for celebrity Sims. It's not done yet, so things may still be added! :)

Anonymous

is this version out my game is telling me i need to update

Anonymous

Hi! The Voyeurism update is not out yet. If you are getting a popup in-game telling you that WW is out of date, then try reinstalling WW and deleting the localthumbcache.package in The Sims 4 folder.

Anonymous

Sounds promising. My legacy Sim is a rank 5 celebrity, and the paparazzi are usually milling outside her mansion. Frequently, they invite themselves in during a club woohoo gathering. It would be interesting if they milled up outside the windows instead ... and pix of celebs woohooing would earn them lots of simoleans.

Anonymous

This is awesome!

Anonymous

Hey! Peeping Sims will be different. The paparazzi Sims themselves won't have any initiation to take pictures outside celebrity households.

Omnia

Hi! I'm new here: are there ways to 1) choose which genders specific Sims have sex with and 2) mass delegate which genders Sims of certain genders have sex with?

Anonymous

Hi! TURBODRIVER's website has information that might answer your questions: <a href="https://wickedwhimsmod.com/sex-settings/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wickedwhimsmod.com/sex-settings/</a>

Anonymous

My body is ready...

Anonymous

This is a take it or leave it for me, sorry :\

Anonymous

I'm Loving the idea. Cannot wait for it to be Implemented :-)

Anonymous

Loving this idea! Are you also planning to include peeping through doors if possible?

wickedwoohoo

Including doors was part of the plan in the initial conception. Where it would be possible, it would end up being quite buggy. Sims walk through doors seamlessly all the time and hooking up proper detection as well as reasonable animation would end up being a big difficulty. It sure is doable, but it wouldn't work as well as you can imagine. Another thing I didn't like about it is how you need to put up walls to interact and see what's happening, while with windows you always see the edge of the building. Overall, the downsides make it not worth doing.

Anonymous

Question LoversLab website... Its been down showing a MySQL server has gone away... What's up with that?

Anonymous

My husband tells me that the site itself picked up a virus that crashed it. Not sure when it will be back up.'

Kevin Clemmer

I was trying to track down an answer for Colonel Nutty's stuff and ran into a wall with LL, too. I've gotten in and fixed it more by luck than experience. But..what is the difference between the releases on LL vs. here in a nutshell? I'm finding some of the anims simply don't work with the Patreon releases, even if they're the same revision (minus the letter at the end, "l" or "m" or "n") Colonel Nutty's stuff most recently (which IS hilarious!). Is it simply that if I use LL mods that I need to make sure I DON'T use Patreon? And vice versa, or did I miss something that bridges that issue? I don't know if this should be on Discord or not. The mod author DOES indicate Patreon releases are not supported, but is LL WW kept up to date?

Brian Zaenglein

Essentially we are beta testing the new features with the Patreon version. By the end of the month the latest, pretty-sure-it's-all-sorted-now version is LL ready and becomes the new month's release for LL

Kevin Clemmer

Very cool, good to know all around! Thanks! :-)

BlackPiano

Will sims be able to be scandalized in the press because of a leaked sex tape and lose reputation in some circles? Or maybe get blackmailed by a peeping tom to buy the photos that had been taken of them?

wickedwoohoo

Maybe in the future, but right now the focus is to finish the base game feature and have it all running with minimal issues. I can't say I have that much experience with the Get Famous expansion to have a proper opinion on it. As far as I can tell, the only real penalty is lost fame so it doesn't sound as thrilling as you describe it. I guess this kind of idea would have to go beyond the expansion itself.

Anonymous

Hey Turbo. Would it be possible to add an interaction to clear cum from an NPC? I find it useful to use the command to clear it from my selected sim but it would be even better if I can clear it from NPCs as well.

instantmagic

Ya just have to take a shower to get cum off of you like IRL. Not that I'd know anything about that. (heh-heh)

Brian Zaenglein

Or maybe for all sims, a tendency to try to find a mirror and get it off their faces at least.

Dave

as long as V has a on/off switch, i'm cool. more granularity would be fantastic, but hey, im not the coder here. also, keep in mind, that people with high exhibitionism ( and to a lesser extent naturism ) skill values would likely be Completely Unfazed at having someone peeping them... just a thought

Anonymous

Thanks for posting the link to answer questions. I LOVE the WW mod and appreciate the work that went into making it. I don't want to deal with sims having periods so that's what I wanted to disable. Checking the FAQ site now. Thanks again!

Anonymous

sounds cool. will add nice story telling to my game. thanks

Anonymous

Hey! There's an on/off switch for pretty much everything in WW, and this will be no different. You will definitely be able to turn it off if you want to. Sims with high Exhibitionism also won't be bothered by being peeped at.

Anonymous

Hi! If you don't want Sims to have periods, you just need to go to WickedWhims Settings &gt; Sex Settings &gt; Pregnancy Settings &gt; Pregnancy Mode and change it to Simple Mode or Disabled.

Xanimur

hi i suddely have the problem that your extraskintones not will be loaded anymore and i have no idea why- i tried it without any cc but its not working- mabe you have an idea?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! You mean the "TURBODRIVER_WickedWhims_Extra_Skin_Tones.package" file is failing to display all of the extra colors for skin tones? I'm not experiencing this myself, so my best guess would be that the PACKAGE file placed in the Mods folder is not being loaded because it's too deep into folders, or the package data is overridden by a different mod, but that is extremely unlikely. This is how it should look: <a href="https://imgur.com/W15LoPM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/W15LoPM</a>

Anonymous

Hi! I'm pretty new to patreon.. I love you're app and you're actually the reason I started donating to begin with. On that note, I am not sure where the best place would be to report last ex. and ask about compatibility?

Anonymous

Hi! The Patreon version of WW will work with the current version of The Sims 4. If you have a lastException, you can either send it to the help email or copy the contents of the lastException and paste it into <a href="https://pastebin.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/</a> and then post the link here as a reply using the curly arrow.

Blarean50

how does your sim beat them up?

instantmagic

If your sim can see a peeper peeping, they will run out and beat them up.

Anonymous

Been looking around, can't seem to turn this off in game. Every day the same guy comes by and stays almost the whole day/night, wont leave even if caught and just breathes heavily and changes between three windows the whole time. Any guidance on how to turn off peepers? thanks!

Anonymous

Hi, I tried downloading the updated version and it's not working. I'm not able to get any peeping sims at all, version 141 is not working for me. I went to Lover's Lab but that's an old version and doesn't support the Voyuerism. Any help is greatly appreciated.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Version .141 is outdated and doesn't work, you need to download either .142 or .143.

Anonymous

So apparently the female Sim i got my male sims to start talking to and even got pregnant! was one of the Voyeurs lmao i had no idea till i figured out the last name was peeping xD shes now part of the household. awesome mod keep up the good work.

Anonymous

Hi Turbo welcome back!! I have a question about peeping Tom and Tina. I have multiples of both of them, they are becoming quite annoying. They appear much to often. Is there anyway to tone them down?

Anonymous

how do i download this

Anonymous

Hi I am having an issues where my peeping sims are not spawning, i have all the settings turned on that need to be, is there anything that can be conflicting with it? Also I have turned up the spawn rate all the way up, also some of my peeping sims are in two playable households, is that a reason why they are not spawning? I am currently playing a solo female household and doing everything to get them to spawn and they will not. please. any help would be grateful, thanks.