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Five years ago, we made our very first post on Patreon. A lot has happened since then—mostly, hundreds of episodes and plenty of live appearances—and we're very happy to still be going strong in our seventh year as an independent podcast. That said, the Retronauts Patreon has remained mostly unchanged over the past half-decade, so Jeremy and I decided this milestone would be the perfect time to take a look at our goals and tiers, and realign them according to what we're capable of—and most importantly, what you want out of us.

On January 1, 2020, we'll be rolling out these changes, so we thought it was only fair to give everyone out there a month's notice. Not everything has been decided yet, but we have decided on what we feel are the most important elements of this Patreon revamp. And, of course, your comments and feedback on this post will definitely help us shape 2020's relaunch. So without further ado, here are the changes we'll be making:

The Friday podcasts will now be Patreon-exclusive.

As of this writing, we're currently above $6000, meaning we create two bonus podcasts per month alongside the regular Monday podcast. And over time, these extra podcasts evolved from Retronauts Micro to Retronauts Pocket to plain old regular-length Retronauts. So, the biggest change for Retronauts? All Friday episodes released after January 1, 2020 will now only be available to those who sign up for our upcoming $5 tier. (Note that this tier will also include early access for the Monday episodes, and the $3 early access tier for Monday episodes will still exist.)

Why this change? When we signed up for Patreon back in 2014, patron-exclusive episodes were not the standard for crowdfunded podcasts. Over the years, they've become an extremely popular incentive, and to be honest, it just makes sense that patrons get something for their money that non-patrons can't access. This means some of our content will exist behind a paywall in the future, but all of our podcasts made before January 1, 2020 will always be available for free outside of Patreon—that's hundreds of episodes over the last seven years! We hope you'll understand if we want a few extra bucks a month for the best incentive for a Patreon-supported podcast: even more episodes!

We'll be eliminating most non-podcast rewards, and delivering any outstanding ones throughout 2020.

To simplify things—and focus more on podcasting—we'll be eliminating all of the physical/digital reward tiers outside of the Shirt circuit and Closer to the Art tiers (which will instead offer a print of a digital piece instead of an original hand-drawn cover). So, as of January 1, 2020, the following tiers will be gone: Digital reader, Print reader, Digital home companion, and Tangible companionship. There is the chance we'll offer a tier below the t-shirt one for merch that's less expensive to produce and ship, but that's still to be decided. (And if you have any suggestions, please let us know!)

We realize there are still some outstanding rewards (including T-shirts and printed books), and Jeremy is committed to taking care of these items within the first quarter of 2020. We'll be sure to keep everyone updated, and we apologize for the delay. Obviously it took us a while to realize that producing six podcasts a month on top of our other engagements didn't leave a lot of time left to fulfill these obligations, so we appreciate your patience.

We'll have a new goal for a third bonus podcast per month.

Clearly, you support (or plan to support) a podcast Patreon for even more podcasts, so we plan to give you exactly that. With our refurbished and streamlined Patreon, we'll have more time free to work on podcasting, which means a third Patreon-exclusive podcast every month—if we meet that goal. And we hope we do!

Those are basically the broad strokes of this revamp. We plan on making a lot of tiny modifications, like adjusting some of our earlier and already-met goals—mostly because we underestimated certain costs, but also because things somehow cost a lot more than they did five years ago. We still have a few things to iron out, and over a month to do it, but the three points above represent the biggest changes that will hit the Patreon next year, and changes that we think are for the best. 

As of next year, we'll have been an independent podcast for longer than we were a podcast supported by a major website, and we couldn't have done that without support from folks like you. We want to carry this podcast about the past even further into the future, and we hope that you stay with us for this sensible ride (we're hardly wild). Thanks for reading this update, and please let us know you questions and/or concerns in the comments!

- Bob

Comments

José Jacob

Extra $2 a month. Worth it! Retronauts has saved me from my road rage and made my commute home one of the best parts of the day. Frikkin love this podcast... even with the odd jab at us Brits (we probably deserve it)

Anonymous

Do it! I love you guys, and I love Retronauts. I know you can't make everyone happy all the time, but I'm happy to give you guys a little more every month if it means making things easier and letting you concentrate on the things you find are the most valuable. Keep up the awesome work.

Anonymous

When will the $5 tier go live? I dont wanna miss anything!

Anonymous

I’m already a patron, and happy to be one. Retronauts produces great content and you deserve to be paid for the job you do. Nice things don’t exist if the people that make the nice things can’t afford to make them. Retronauts is a very nice thing. I’m already at $6 a month because I value what you provide. Now shut up and [continue to] take my money.

Andrew Eikum

For me, I support creators on Patreon so they can keep making things I enjoy. I like the idea of others being able to enjoy those things, even if they can't pay for them. So my preference would be to continue making all episodes public. However, I understand if this doesn't make business sense. I'll happily keep supporting if you keep making things I like, regardless 👍 Thanks for sharing your plans, have a great Thanksgiving.

Anonymous

Appreciate the thought and consideration that went into this revamp. Sounds like it'll be better for you (and us!). Looking forward to what's to come from y'all in 2020!

Jason Lew

Retronauts helped me get buff as I listen while working out. A third episode per month means I'll be positively statuesque this time next year!

Anonymous

Sounds great! Thanks for the updates, glad to continue at the new setup.

Anonymous

I'm happy to chip in more money for more podcasts and agree that's why I contribute--we have plenty of opportunities to read print by you guys elsewhere (and Twitter jokes are free) and I was never particularly motivated by those higher tiers. This should free you up to focus on the primary deliverable and hopefully entice more people to sign up. Good ideas! You might consider putting up short preview clips of the Patron exclusive episodes on the public feed similar to what Chapo and others do, to dangle that carrot.

littleterr0r

I think it's a great idea and puts Retronauts more in line with Talking Simpsons/What A Cartoon which I always felt it deserved anyway.

NapoPeb

What bullshit. Increasing the price AND going behind a paywall? Fuck you. That’s outrageous.

Ken Hoyt

Not nearly as mad online as NapoPeb, but I don't know if I'll be going up to $5 and feel a little sad that I'll be missing podcasts. Just my personal situation is that I pay for lots of content and as everybody inches up in price I've got to decide where not to follow, much as I love this podcast

Colbin Erdahl

Whoops, I upped my pledge early. Definitely America’s best and favorite classic video games podcast. I’m hoping no change to my favorite podcast intro music, on the other hand, the old one was also pretty great, and I have serious faith in my two favorite content creators!!

Bob Mackey

We welcome any contribution no matter how early or generous

Jared Blankenship

I like the idea of the new changes and would be happy to contribute. I am at the entry level contribution right now. Will i automatically move up to the $5 contribution? If not, can I change to it now while I'm thinking about it?

Colbin Erdahl

Wow, I’m surprised the Rage of NapoPeb survived listening to hours of the smooth jazz dulcet tones of Jeremy Parish.

Anonymous

As a longtime paying print patron I like this change to a clear picture of what we are getting. It has been disappointing to not get the printed (or even digital) books that pulled me into paying $10 per month from the start. I enjoy the podcasts and feel that $5 a month for the content is a good place. If I can offer a suggestion it would be to get better audio recording or locations for the live panels. Often I can't listen to those because the audio quality is bad or up and down. Thanks for the thoughtful change and committing to catch up on the unfulfilled rewards.

Bob Mackey

Since the $5 tier doesn't exist yet, if you up your pledge to $5 right now, you should be grandfathered in once it goes live.

Abrahm Simons

Seems like a reasonable change to me! I'll be upping my pledge to $5. I am curious what the new monthly podcast might be. Do you have any thoughts on what niche that will fill? I picture it like the What A Cartoon Movie podcast but I don't know what the Retronauts equivalent would be?

Anonymous

Wait, so Early Access will be gone? Also I'm getting broke...

Anonymous

Yeah, guess I'll be upping my pledge! Your show is some of the most consistently enjoyable content out there, and I'd rather be supporting awesome independent creators than funneling more money towards Disney. (Unless Disney already bought Retronauts, which frankly would not surprise me at this point.)

Admiral H. Curtiss

Even though I already am backing above the would-be-required 5$ tier, I very much disagree about having patreon exclusive episodes. Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to spare the extra money every month.

Bob Mackey

Nope, the early access tier for Monday episodes will still exist.

Eric Plunk

$5? There goes my Apple TV + money lol. In all seriousness I’m very excited about the changes and look very forward to the new year!

Brian Silvers

I think it is a bad move to lock previously free content away behind a paywall. Making a new, exclusive from the start podcast that was something different, like a let’s play or a show with some of the site contributors like Stuart Gipp or Kim Justice, would be a nicer middle ground.

Bob Mackey

Please check the post, previously free content won’t be going behind a paywall.

Anonymous

Agreed. I am disappointed in Retronauts doing this. I pay to support them, not to access exclusive content, and I will be reconsidering my subscription so as to not support this. I hope they reconsider.

Anonymous

Happy for you guys to change up the tiers next year and will be upping my pledge to be able to access all the content going forward. You guys do fantastic work and I’m excited about what comes next. Thanks for all your hard work and commitment to Retronauts and us, your fans 👍🏼

Jonathan Mitchell

Good for you guys. Don't listen to the people that say you should create additional content to be exclusive. They must think you have unlimited time/energy. There is only so much you can physically do.

Anonymous

Is there anyway to access Patreon exclusive content through the iPhone podcast app? Been a Patreon since day one and that won’t be changing... but I’m also stubborn about my flow!

Anonymous

Who do I have to pay to bring back Retronauts Radio?!

Bob Mackey

Yep, you can use your private RSS code that's always accessible to you when you visit our Patreon page. Click "Overview" and it'll be in the right-hand column.

Anonymous

Happy to upgrade my contribution. Been listening to this podcast for over 10 years and I'll be dammed if I start missing episodes now. Also , I'd love to see a return of video game movie month! Was a big fan of those episodes back in the day and there's even more movies to discuss nowadays. Just a thought. Love you both!

Anonymous

I'm at $3 tier now, and I don't mind to update to $5 tier, but I don't like the idea of paywall-only podcasts.I think Retronauts are doing useful job in gathering and preserving retro games data and it will be a pity if some part of this knowledge will be hidden from people. I, personally, is supporting Retronauts not because I want exclusive content, but because I think that you guys are doung useful stuff and I want more people to be able to access is and not less.

Anonymous

Full support for the changes and glad to bump from $3 to $5 to keep you guys doing what you do.

Bob Mackey

Libraries are funded by the state/your taxes but we aren't (we aren't even a non-profit). We need to make money because podcasting is an expensive endeavor, and our skilled labor has value.

Anonymous

Firstly, it's brilliant that Retronauts has such staying power. Says a lot about the time and effort you guys have put in to it, and also fantastic that you've been able to get a pretty decent amount of Patreon revenue to fund it. One question - will the $5 tier podcasts be available to download via podcast apps (e.g. a dedicated feed); or will we have to download manually; or must listen in Patreon website (those are listed in my order of preference/easiest). I don't come to Patreon often - if the eps are website only then please can you sent out an email notification to remind each time, otherwise life will get in the way and I will miss things.

Bob Mackey

Yes, as a Patreon you already have a dedicated RSS feed you can drop into any podcast app/player that will download exclusive Patreon podcasts as they go live.

Kevin Bunch

This all seems sensible

Mike Brothers

Good stuff, and a great sign of the health of the show. Happy to upgrade to the $5 tier. It looks like it might be best for us to do that when the new tiers are actually created?

Kormakur Gardarsson

Looking forward to what’s to come from you guys in 2020 and fully intend to sign up for the new tier.

Christopher Hyde

sorry to say that I think I'm out with this change. Have been a 3$ backer for a long time, but I'm not really interested in going from 36$ a year to 60$ just to get the exclusive podcasts. I don't begrudge you asking for more and I hope you're successful with it, but for me individually it's just not worth it.

Anonymous

I tend to agree. It feels like we're being punished. The Patreon is so successful they're making Patreon-exclusive episodes which are not available to all patrons?

Anonymous

How long will the Patreon-exclusive podcasts be on the RSS feed after publishing?

shea dewar

Very excited about the changes.

Chase

Honestly, due to work and other commitments that lead me with little time. I just binge the episodes once every six months or so when I go on long airplane rides, but I love love what you guys do. would be more then willing to support more even without consuming, if you added any higher tiers. Please keep it up!

Bob Mackey

They'll be on the Patreon feed indefinitely once they go live. (As with all of the podcasts we post here.)

Anonymous

Will I lose anything by sticking to the $3 tier? I'm currently not in a financial position to upgrade.