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Kill the Moon, Gallifrey Gals Get Wibbly Wobbly! S8Ep7 (Patreon)

Published:
2021-07-15 17:00:06
Edited:
2022-03-01 08:40:20
Imported:
2022-05

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What would you do if you had to kill the moon? Katrina coming in and warming up to this season after rewatching and sharing with Paula! What has been your favorite episode so far this season? 


PAULA DEMING

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KATRINA ALYSHA

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Gallifrey Gals Get Wibbly Wobbly! S8Ep7

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Comments

Nicole Mazza

As a massive Martha fan, I can definitely agree with the idea that the Tenth Doctor could be a pretty big jerk sometimes! (And honestly, I'm always surprised how many people think he was always so 'nice') But yeah, as you said, people seem to gloss over that sort of thing with Ten and Eleven, but they had their harsh sides just like Twelve does (or any of the Doctors, really). I mean, Twelve doesn't 'hide' it as much obviously, he doesn't mask it as much, but you can also see that he cares too (like he was really upset in the ending scene of this story too -- I think he feels awful about hurting Clara). Weirdly, I honestly think Twelve cares EVEN MORE a lot of the time, but he's trying to hide his softness by acting/being a bit rough around the edges -- almost the inverse of Ten and Eleven, where they were trying to hide their darker/rougher sides by being charming instead.

Nicole Mazza

It's funny, when this came out, one of the biggest criticisms I saw was how it was about abortion. For whatever reason, that didn't even occur to me until I read those reviews -- though I can see where people got that idea after the fact. The writer supposedly has gone on record saying that was not at all his intention. but obviously fiction is always open to interpretation and the abortion allegory was a very common one. 🤷‍♀ P.S. FIWIW, I don't hate the story. I feel like it has some good emotional beats, but obviously some weird DOCTOR WHO SCIENCE at the heart of it that makes it suffer a bit plot-wise. And I also just never took to Courtney. Still, I do mostly like it as a character piece and I think that Capaldi and Coleman did a great job with it. 😀

Anonymous

I'm late to the Patreon party, but I made it thru the backlog and have finally caught up to the Gals in real time!

Jeff Seely

I'm surprised that Clara didn't reference that time when she helped 10, 11, and the War Doctor decide to NOT destroy Gallifrey. They were ready to press that destruct button together until 11 noticed that Clara looked like she had something to say. If you look at it from that perspective, then what 12 did in this episode was very hypocritical. But setting that aside, I agree with what 12 did. I understand Clara's anger at it, but I think she went too far by telling him to leave and never come back. She should have just left the TARDIS, blown off some steam, and then returned later to make up with him. Also, I really didn't like this episode the first time I saw it because I thought the premise was utterly ridiculous. But I'm a lot more accepting of it now.

Sufyaan Kazi
>>63840851

After a work flight to the US, I was in the lift in Heathrow airport and realised that the girl with her family who had picked her up also in the lift was the actress who played Courtney. She was a lovely girl, very excited telling her parents about the sci fi exhibition she just can't back from, sweet moment 👍

Brandon Scott

So I don’t know if either of you will remember anything about me by my username but if you do it will likely be an unpleasant memory. I have had some rather contentious (to put it politely) conversations in the comment sections of your videos and have been accused of being rude, mean and been called other things I’d not care to repeat. However, I can say with certitude that I have never said anything with the intent of being harmful and I have never lobbed insults. And in response to your call to action in this video I’d like to say the following and I hope that you both get to read it. I think you are both wonderful, compassionate, insightful, intelligent, clever human beings and, regardless of disagreements or even frustrations, I always find a bit of joy and happiness when I watch your videos. I truly hope that both of you are happy in your lives and that you have found some fulfillment and satisfaction in your pursuits. You’re both two lovely individuals with lovely spirits and I for one feel fortunate that you allow us to share in your journey. Thank you. (P. S. You might consider a noise gate (set somewhere around - 34db would probably work) for Paula’s mic if she’s going to use her headset mic. That might help keep the next video from sounding like a chewing ASMR video 😝)

Lloyd B
>>63840851

I never thought of this story as being anything about abortion, and only really heard that point of view recently (but then I never paid attention to social media when this was broadcast, and rarely do now anyway). My gut feeling about that, being from Aus, is that it is more likely people from the US who see the story in that light, as the topic of abortion is far more divisive and politically charged there than in the UK or Australia. I could be wrong, and am showing my own bias, of course. For me the topic of the voice of killing or not killing the creature is better equated to how to deal with a rare but dangerous wild animal that might be a risk to people.

Joshua Gosdin

Paula, you're wonderful, brilliant, a delight! Well done on all counts if I'm honest!

Anonymous

I was iffy on the egg but always liked the episode, 2 time shout outs: #1 11:42 Paula and the opps, ya, oh, well nothing to see here face. :D followed up by #2 49:20 Katrina holding the steepled fingers with the "So...? how's it going?" question in her expression patiently letting the moment breath :)

DeathSwitch

The control freak was put in a situation she couldnt control and couldnt hack it, so she blames her friend for not taking control...uh huh 👀. Yeah im not a big fan of this one, the moon thing is whatever, i can suspend disbelief.. but are we supposed to pretend that the moon breaking apart had ZERO affect on the massive body of water the Tardis landed in front of?... cmon 😅

Steven morgan

Paula as usual your a delight, ignore the haters and keep munching

Graham Smith

First of all, you two are great, never let anyone say anything to the contrary, or at least don't take any stock in it! As for the overall arc of the episode, I can see enjoying the general dynamics. Clara's monologue was performed phenomenally too, Jenna Coleman is extremely talented and I'm glad she got to show it off here! Capaldi's Doctor is also a wonderful character portrayal. Now with that said, rant time. I'm sorry but the "Moon is an egg" scenario for me was actually just really hard to suspend disbelief for and it pulled me out too much. It's not for a lack of truly out-there stories in the past which you two highlighted well, hell the next episode is pretty crazy setting wise, and I love it! I think my issue with this one comes down to a few things. Tone - the tone here, and of series 8 in general, is far darker and more serious. The show is presenting itself as 'less silly' and more 'gritty' (something multiple people I know agreed with me on) and when you're trying to be taken more in that light, it's important to get the details right. The burden of explanation at the very least needs to be taken on. For me that leads to point 2... The Doctor is wrong - I don't mean in his choice to leave the decision to the others, that's the only meat to this episode, I mean about fundamental scientific concepts. I don't mean to say Doctor Who hasn't played fast and loose with scientific accuracy before (it's more science-fantasy than anything else) and I don't expect it to be something like The Expanse here, but he says the Moon has gained mass… that just doesn't make sense, an enclosed system like an egg can't gain mass like that. Ok, I get it, it's just a ridiculous TV show, but as I said the burden of explanation is on the show when it's in a darker season, especially on a serious episode. The explanation I need doesn't HAVE to make scientific sense, but it should make logical sense in order for the audience to accept it. This isn't the best way to handle it, but Star Trek covers this issue well enough with techno-babble and it works, all they needed to do here was use that. A simple throw away line of "It's feeding off the mass of a pocket of parallel space" or some such nonsense is sufficient. As outlined here, it just doesn't work. What's worse though is that we literally have rock samples from the Moon, and as an amateur astronomer, we can determine the chemical composition of the surface from here, so how did they find no deposits there? Also: Why was the Moon fine in Clara's time, but over it's 100 million year life as the Moon it only added that 1.3 billion tons in the last 35 years? How does the creature lay another Moon sized egg? Where's THAT extra mass coming from? How are those spiders single celled organisms? What exactly was blowing up the Moon supposed to accomplish anyway... I mean before they figured there was a shifting creature underneath they could kill? They said themselves that if the Moon 'hatched' it could just make a bunch of debris and impact the Earth killing everyone… blowing up the Moon would have definitely done the same thing. Also, 100 of the most powerful nuclear bombs ever made wouldn't blow up the Moon anyway. What was the plan exactly? This story contradicts the fact the Moon was around and threatened the Silurians 300 million years ago if it's only 100 million years old, also Matt Smith mentioned races currently living on the Moon in a previous episode. In fact, it also contradicts a number of other stories too. Are some of these things nit picky? Sure, but the fact is despite my ability to love silly Doctor Who stories, they take on a different character when they are not recognizing themselves as silly. David Tennant's and Matt Smith's series in particular do tend to bring that self-referential flair and it benefits them greatly from it. When you are going for the feel series 8 is going for, at least most the time, you have a lot less latitude for that. It's actually why, despite a lot of people disliking it, I LOVED Robot of Sherwood, it knew it didn't need to make that much sense and that it could just be fun. The problem here is that this plotline is nonsensical, full of holes that don't hold up if you give it more than a passing thought, and the Doctor says things here that are just patently wrong and contradictory. He's supposed to be incredibly intelligent, and while we can cut him a lot of slack for messing up fun timey-whimey stuff, messing up elementary school level science looks bad on him, I just don't buy it. It's like him saying the Earth is flat, it's just a leap too far, especially in an episode that's trying to suck you in and be serious and dark and emotional at the same time. It feels at odds with itself. Personally I found Danny here to be pretty much how Katrina found him in this episode, and I found the drama - which at least made sense in the context of the episode - felt forced. It just feels like it's trying to be edgier. I'm not against that overall, but as I said, it's a theme in this season a lot and it just never feels quite organic enough for me to believe it, it just feels heavy-handed oftentimes. You aren't wrong for enjoying this episode, and you aren't wrong for not caring about the egregious plot holes, everyone has a different point if view. For my money though, and a lot of other people's, this was the worst episode of Doctor Who since Love and Monsters. Luckily, I truly love the next two episodes! It's not all negativity here. Also, side note, Peter Capaldi is a treasure. He was such a great Doctor to the fans. Check out some of the side videos he did talking to the audience at large. Wonderful guy!

Steve Combs
>>63931351

You’ve outlined nearly every problem I have had myself about the “Moon is an Egg” concept, but I still “tolerate” the episode because I think it was more or less a vehicle to get us to the end point where we are with Clara falling out with the Doctor. That being said, I’m happy they attempted to really dive deep into the Doctor and Companion having some differences in perspective, but that plot line…. Yikes lol.

Steven morgan
>>63931351

The whole creature laying another moon sized egg was such a bone of contention for me, that I forgot what a good episode it actualy is, watching it through different eyes as helped me love it

tal goren
>>63931351

I agree with most of your points, but at least with the Silurians, the moon being an egg, can explain how their scientists determined that it's velocity and trajectory would mean that it would impact the earth, only for it to suddenly stop and enter into a perfect orbit around the planet.

Torstein Skurve

God I forgot how much I hated this episode..

BiPolar HoneyBear

Annoying that they didn't address the real controversy which is how blatantly anti-abortion this episode was...why not talk about the thing people actually had a problem with?