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Cultural Appropriation (Patreon)

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2018-05-21 17:00:41
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2024-02

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Dr. Kirk Honda and Humberto talk about cultural appropriation and the young woman who wore the Chinese dress.


The Psychology In Seattle Podcast. 


May 21, 2018.


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Music by Bread Knife Incident.  


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Anonymous

I feel as though I should add that even though no one probably wants to hear it, constant nagging and lecturing on things like this is absolutely connected to why Trump got so much support. If there's one complaint that unites the right, it's that of "political correctness." Misguided as that might be, if you get told everything you do is culturally insensitive and racist often enough, there comes a point when most people will start thinking "To hell with it, this is what everyone thinks I am. That's what I'll be. I don't care anymore." That, and I think the entire talk of privilege is problematic for the following reason. There is no single group in the world more privileged than college educated Americans. That so much of the discourse around privilege springs up at US universities could be seen as a form of psychological projection. I work for a construction company with a lot of white people who never went to college. Please think for a second how deeply you'd resent being told by someone with more education and money than you to "check your privilege." What does "privilege" even mean? Yes, a lot of it is based on race, but that's not the exclusive factor. Trumpism and this kind of liberal finger pointing feed off eachother. It's a vicious cycle and I don't see any easy way out of it. Things just keep getting worse and I can't see the bottom of this downward spiral.

Anonymous

My experience is, not only people will always assume a malevolent intent: they'll always assume it's about f***ing ideology. Full disclosure: I am Italian, yet I had a pink version of the Chinese dress back in the days, and I still have two kimonos that I bought because I'm a textiles geek and I loved the embroidery so much. Also my fave composer is Austrian, my fave writer is British, my fave philosopher is Greek, my fave cartoon is Japanese, my fave beer is Irish, my fave painter is Dutch, my fave snack is Mexican, and my fave pastry is French. Now I assure you, when I eat nachos, my intent is not mocking or wronging Mexicans, nor is it making a point of distancing myself from my culture. I just frickin' LOVE the crunch and the heat of the peppers and the tangy cheese and the refreshing salsa. If this makes me shallow and superficial, then ok, but to me, this is a window on a different culture that I always approach with curiosity and joy - I mean, there aren't many Mexicans here, but if I meet a bunch someday, I'll already feel like we can sit at the same table and be friends. Now I know someone might say connecting Mexicans with nachos is intrinsecally racist, and to that I don't know what to say. I am aware that not all Mexicans love nachos - heck, I am Italian and I dislike pasta! - but my point is, even since cultures connected, there has been mutual curiosity and learning and inspiration, and THANK GOD FOR THAT. Granted, there has been nasty stuff too, and I doubt there is any person of any ethnicity whose ancestors haven't at some point fought or oppressed someone else's. I have no power to change what my ancestors have done, but what I do NOT accept is, being told I have no right to love a book, or music, or dress, or food, or whatever, because of that. Because I am not trying to f***ing STEAL your thing; I just wish both of us could _love it together_, and maybe find other things we both love, and be friends - because if our ancestors were dicks and hated each other, that _doesn't_ mean we have to as well. (Sorry for the rant - I also am aware that while I type this, there are Italians who bitch about about you guys "stealing" pizza and putting pineapple on it, so it's not like i'm saying we are immune to the "cultural appropriation" bandwagon. I just happen to think that appreciating what's beautiful in other cultures is an incredibly powerful source of understanding and love, and it can be as simple as loving the same dress or humming the same song - and it maddens me when it's done in a spirit of innocence and joy, and constructed by others into something hateful.)

PsychologyInSeattle
>>12558878

Thanks for sharing. Interesting thoughts. To me, it's all about empathy and asking about how it affects others. That's it.