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Liz, Brace and YC pore over the newly released Ghislaine deposition in the first half of a deranged two part exercise in civil law.

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shitAss

cool

Bryn Nieboer

oh thank god. i read all 400 pages the day it came out and ive been dying to hear this ep since

Ellie Voyyd ⚧️

please for the love of god refer to him as Billiard Clinton in the next episode

Alaric

Dope Steve Reich soundtrack to the reenactment, it works well for some reason I can't place

Lulu

I was listening to an episode from a while back and Liz said that you guys were gonna do an ep/series on the Clintons. Are you guys still planning on doing that? I want to hear about the slaves they used in Arkansas.

features creatures

Did you REALLY put Steve Riech’s music for 18 musicians underneath ghislaine’s deposition you absolute psychos....?

Stephen Wells

Maxwell's deposition reminds me of Bill Clinton's deposition.

Laborious Bore

YungChomsky sounds like Pete Buttigieg😬

John Harwood

Ummm, I’m not sure that you understand the way in which modernist music/art is entangled in the very horrifying situation that this pod is trying so hard to describe. Reich’s piece is wonderful beyond description, AND it’s part of a wholly corrupt system. Irony and dialectical reasoning are important now, as always. Bravo, Yung Chomsky.

Deirdre Tanton

Supposedly the topic Ghislaine/Jeffrey, “a sleeping giant — is about to erupt,” says British astrologer Steve Judd. https://youtu.be/8412i9DZ4Kg

Vincent Utah

Try not to shit on Modernism and modern artists too much, John. The movement, as unfathomably broad as it is, has always been fairly amorphous when it comes to political leanings and social movements primarily where it hasn’t been polluted by gentrification—which I will admit is increasingly more difficult to come by these days. Plenty of bad apples within Modernism but also many comrades within its ranks, especially within surrealism, constructivism, and social realism where they still stand. Many muralists in particular are still holding strong against the capitalist tide and still employ much of what we would call Modernist technique. This comes in contrast to Postmodern artists who, for lack of better terms, have their heads shoved so far up their asses they’ve lost any and all direction. Not to say their art is “bad,” but direction and even progress in any form is an especially modernist concept which Postmodernists by definition adamantly question and oppose. Regardless of what sophist dipshits like Jordan Peterson would tell you, Postmodernism is oil to Marxism’s water. Because it demands a path forward to a better future, left wing politics, including much of what has been shared on this pod, can easily fit within the Modernist ideal, which as I mentioned is almost too broad to begin to describe. Cut us some slack there, dude. We’re not all evil.

Matthew Hobbs

I don't get it, did Ghislaine touch the poop or not???

Veronica Horn

That magnetic fields call out... ooooof... I’ve been there.

Brian Long

Brace using coke cans to measure... call me, Brace. 😉

Ange Olivia

This is all very interesting to me and I am wondering if anyone has more to say specifically about this particular Steve Reich work in relation to the pod content. Incredibly moving and horrifying yes! An ugly visceral feeling for me, very hard to put into words, but this is because I know for Reich this song was focusing on the railway system during the Holocaust in contrast with his experiences on the American railway system at the same time.

gothgrrrrl

Reich is based, listen to "come out" one of his early best works

Bobby Volcano

Great, now I think of light leaving the Sun and visiting the solar system in this video https://vimeo.com/117815404 and also Ghislaine Maxwell, jfc my brain

Julian Cooper

Day 1 of asking Brace to go on Joe Rogan.

Friend of Pangolin

Also please include how those 2 kids were killed by police and placed on railroad tracks, because they accidently discovered government officials (including the Clintons) were involved in drug trafficking in Arkansas.

Yang Wenli

What the fuck dude I was just listening to music for 18 musicians the other day

Ben

is there legit overlap between rogan and trueanon or is this (please god) a joke RIP spacebat, respect

Peter T.

I remember meeting this cute girl in SF in like 2007, then finding on her myspace that she liked the magnetic fields and being like oh I better get in to this band, then listening and going 🧐

uya

cmon why would u make me associate music for airports with ghislaine maxwell’s vibrators????

julio

please do not ever make that sound again

SMO

So fucking funny that Brace got a pop on sky news australia. Didn't call him baby though.

Sidney Carlson White

Lmao the use of M418M here was absolutely delightful here

Floyd Hill

Yeah....especially bad for people waking up at 3:15 AM feeling anxious for no particular reason with a heart that just went through covid (unvaxxed...although I might consider it when it's a real vax with a commercial name, not a Stage III clinical trial on most of the world.....China's and Russia's vaccines work like normal vaccines, dead sars-cov-2, which do seem more efficient than this mRNA shit so far) who are close to getting 40 in a few months and who need benzos from time to time, like Clark Clifford would say, to endure life post 9/11....oof.

Floyd Hill

Yeah, I think everyone watched that far-right produced (but still factual) Clinton Chronicles from the 90's at least partly from old Corbett Report video podcasts.