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Hello everyone and thank you for being here!
Bringing you some fresh notes & mod changes today :)

---[RPO Collection] MOD UPDATED!! ---------------------------

Bug fixes and some new features. Update notes:

- added features to M15 & altered existing ones
- re-made parts of the adoption module
- fixed rename interaction that I broke recently
- fixed the ecography, which had decided to work only once in a while
- added a tooltip and such to some M13 interactions
- shortened some moodlet text from various mod(ule)s.
- made various changes in trying to address issues some people are having in old v2.8 saves, to no avail. This one is beyond logic.
- changed meet&mingle icon colors to be more distinctive from the social icon
- blocked npc surrogates from meet&mingle, since they can’t be romanced
- Made various test changes
- changed / fixed other small things that I don't remember.

Grab the mods all-in-one or separately as usual now, links on the index. 


----[MOOD PACK] UPDATED!! ---------------

Mood pack got 2 new moods, on request.

---[Memory Panel] An update is underway ------------

With new possible memories and a little 'write life story' feature where you can type in whatever story you want for your Sim; initially suggested by someone who goes by the name of a breakfast food and will recognize himself in the default text in game ehe. 

I'll write again when the update is out. Watch out for it this month.


----[Law&Disorder] YES I'm WORKING on it -------------

With all the trouble RPO has been giving me, it's not going fast.
I re-started to convert the system to a more memory-panel like format behind the scenes.
I'm working on getting Sims to react to certain actions and on that triggering the Sim's misbehavior record and consequences. 



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The below is detailed info on a RPO potential lag situation in specific contexts. Feel free to SKIP that wall of text if it doesn't apply to you.

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[RPO] On the matter of Possible Lag Issues when transitioning from RPO v2.8 to v2.9

I want to talk again about the 'results' of the investigations of the past days and weeks regarding this problem that some are encountering.

To clarify what we are talking about with this ‘abnormal lag’: on a non-gaming laptop with various packs installed etc, a lag of three quarters of a second would not be surprising and would count as normal, not abnormal.
What we are talking about here, is like very significantly longer than that (three seconds and up), especially in people for whom there were no issues before.

The FIRST thing to do if you have this problem is try in a new save and see how it behaves there.

That will tell you what group you fall into.

According to users’ reports, there are various variants of this problem happening. I will mention the main ones below:

Group 0 - has no issue whatsoever.
That is the case of my game and my main computer for example.

Group 1- has lag in old saves, not new, problem is resolved by a mod data reset.
This is the case that ‘makes sense’, ie, it would suggest that some mod data from previous versions needs to be cleared out, and playing in a household and then saving while the mod is NOT installed takes care of doing that. Therefore, it would be logical that after doing this, the problem would be gone.

Group 2a- has lag in old saves, not new, in old saves problem persists even after data reset if m8 is installed.
(Group 2b is the same as 2a but with m10 instead of 8. Group 2c, same but with m5.)
Group 2a, 2b and 2c ‘make no sense’. Playing a household without the mod installed in saving erases all the data left by the mod. This means that an old save after such a procedure should be the exact same as a new save. But for users of group 2, it is not.
Various tests have been performed regarding people of group 2, and the results have been
astounding and not in a good way. I have brought it up to other modders who did not find any more rhyme or reason to it than I did. A possible tentative conclusion is that some invisible cacheing might be going on. If so, I assume it is not impossible that playing for a longer time without whichever module(s) is causing trouble might eventually clear that out and allow placing the modules back in without consequence for old saves. but honestly: I have NO clue.
Another solution, of course, would be to
use these modules in new saves only.

Group 4- new user or old user in a new save, reporting problems
I’ve had hardly any detailed report for these groups, so at this point is still hard for me to tell much of anything about it - not even sure these people's setup are not just simply not capable of handling the largeness of the mod.
If Group 4 is your case, please come over to discord to share more info and hopefully help and be helped https://t.co/6YnFzQlQDs

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Needless to say, this has been driving me crazy. It is completely discouraging and exhausting. I have only made changes that should improve the efficiency of the mod, not the opposite. The illogical nature of these issues (especially in cases where it’s fine new saves but not old ones after mod data reset) makes this extremely frustrating, for you and me both. But for now, this is what it is. I have tried and tried and tried, and I have no further solutions at this moment.


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Many thanks and a happy 2023,
Lumpinou

Comments

Sam D.

What is a mod data reset?

lumpinou

Basically removing a mod, saving with it not installed, which wipes out its data, and re installing it

Anonymous

I installed this two days ago and haven't been able to load any saves since...I can't get an exception report from it either.

lumpinou

You just need to delete your settings file for this mod and it'll be all good :)

kesionna

Hi lumpinou, I love your mods, can't play a game without them. I downloaded the newest version of rpo and I have a problem. I also have littlemssam's spend weekend with. After I updated rpo and went into my game, I had my toddler and child sims spend weekend with a relative, but one of my toddler didn't show in the traveling box. I had to manually put my toddler back in my household. But now that she has aged into child and she is in my sim's household, my sim can't travel with her and when I click on the child and click travel with, she can't travel with her mother either. They both don't show up in the traveling box with each other. But when I click on the sister and click travel they both show up. This only happened after I updated.

lumpinou

Hi, Never heard of such a thing, and my mod doesn't impact other mods in any specific way that would look like that. You should try with another family - and also ask LMS about it because the requirements for appearing in her mod's boxes are part of her mod and not mine, so, I don't know what they are, and therefore can't guess why the toddler isn't fitting those requirements. Let me know! :)

Jami Lyford

When my Sim goes to the dr to evaluate fertility i dont ever get a pop up with results. Is this an issue or is there no pop up explanation of the reults

Jami Lyford

So far just this Sim

lumpinou

It's working for me, too, so, something about this sim... What is their cas setting on pregnancy stuff?

Jami Lyford

I figured it out, she had a miscarriage and it was announced she was infertile then and I just missed the message, maybe that’s why I don’t get a response after the dr, she has the infertile trait and when asked about fertility it does say she cannot have children! As always, thank you for being so quick to respond !

Anonymous

When my sim leaves for anything pregnancy related they don't come back and if they do a notification won't show up.

lumpinou

Hi, what interactions exactly, and did you try in another lot / household?

DeeSims

for RPO is there a fake disease verison... that doesn't have AIDS, HIV etc

Anonymous

For some reason this mod makes my interaction menu extremely slow and laggy it takes forever for me to choose a interaction to socilaize I took out all of my mods and left this one in and its definitely this mod , please help :(

lumpinou

Hi, are you on the very latest version, and did you check the FAQ about this? https://www.patreon.com/posts/76258385

Anonymous

Hey I didn’t see that post , I just read it I’m going to try it and let you know if anything has changed for me , thanks for the response 🙂

lumpinou

Thanks! Make sure to be using the very latest version too, that would be January 5-6. Do let me know how it goes, thanks!

Anonymous

Hey good afternoon, I followed the steps and I'm still having the same result . I got a last exception error from WW after following the steps and checked it out and it is modules 5, 8 and 10 when these aren't in the game the interaction menu is still a little slow but not as bad as when these three modules are in game :(

lumpinou

Your WW up to date too? And most importantly, how is it all in a new save?

Anonymous

Please do not be too disheartened by this process, I cannot stress enough the level of detail and life you bring to the Sims, it becomes so much more with your mods added. Please take time to rest your hands and recalibrate as you need to, you are a legend!

Anonymous

Hey I don’t know if this has been suggested but it would be really cool if the going for wtd testing was in the phone.

Anonymous

Hey happy Tuesday :) so I tired again with the mod and it’s definitely the three specific main ones that was told I remove if step one didn’t work . Other things I noticed was kids in the house would get sentiments usually a spouse would get after a doctors appointment if there’s no father in the household. But yea it’s definitely the insemination , teen pregnancy and the other one… currently it’s running ok with out the 3 specific files

Wenelda Ruwyn

Just wanted to let you know I don't have the lag on new saves, just a bit of lag on an old save so when I update my game I'll follow your steps before I install the new files for RPO v 9.3. I also just want to say I absolutely love your mods and thank you so very much for all the work you put into them. I honestly don't ever want to play without your mods; they make Sims so much more lifelike.