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Blade Runner - re:View (Patreon)

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2017-07-02 23:48:03
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Blade Runner - re:View

Jay is joined by Colin from Canada to discuss the Ridley Scott sci-fi classic Blade Runner, a movie Colin (and pretty much everyone else) loves and Jay finds kinda boring. Controversy!

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Anonymous

Jay and COLIN ! This is gonna be awesome !

Anonymous

I thought I'd have nothing to do on my Sunday night. Thanks RLM!!

Nathan Carlson

Man, I've never once thought Blade Runner was boring.

Anonymous

I was so hesitant about watching this, but decided my belief system needed a shake-up. Turns out my Blade Runner love is pretty strong and any negativity I was able to shrug off. I think I'm growing. I was very happy with Colin's sensible explanation of the origami in the final scene of the film, which is the way it should be. I don't mind the unicorn dream insertion, as in my head I can do what I like with it. It's ambiguous enough to not be irritating. It's certainly no "Jedi Rocks". Stick with it, Jay, it'll click eventually!

Anonymous

Super excited to watch, love Jay and Colin! Always miss Mike in a video though. 😢😁

Nathan Carlson
>>5960176

Yeah, Ridley Scott saying years later Deckard is a replicant doesn't color my perception of the movie at all. In the film itself it's left ambiguous. As far as Harrison Fords performance, I actually kinda liked how subdued and understated it is.

Anonymous

I didn't watch Blade Runner until 2012 or so (for reference I'm 39 years old). I grew up knowing nothing about it and managed to avoid learning anything about it all through the 80s and 90s, so I went in with a pretty fresh perspective. Early in the movie I got the sense that I was being lead to believe Deckard was a replicant and it ruined the whole experience for me. As Jay says, "If Deckard is a replicant then why does anything matter?"

Anonymous
>>5960859

Oh, for reference, I'm pretty sure I was watching the Director's cut, though I do seem to remember voiceovers.

Chuck Thompson

Amazing how much I've changed my mind about this movie. I definitely didn't appreciate this movie as much until I saw it in a huge theater. It just sucks you into its world and it's amazing. Totally different from my memories of seeing it on tv in 4:3 aspect ratio with the terrible narration when I was younger.

Anonymous

I really love Blade Runner, and I'm just glad to see it discussed in any way shape or form. I'm not a sociopath, so I can understand other people's opinions differ from my own, but for me, personally, it truly is such an aesthetically beautiful film, and the Vangelis soundtrack is life changingly haunting.

Anonymous

I think /and this is a big guess) that the weird acting in the scene before Ford shotts the replicant in the back is a "homage" to the bookstore scene in The Big Sleep where Bogart pretends to be somewhat homosexual in order to... try and buy a book. Yeah. I don't know why he would need it to buy a book. But that's what I think, fi noir thing.

Milio Latimer

Rutger Hauer + Brion James + Susan Tyrrell = Paul Verhoeven's "Flesh+Blood"! :-D If you haven't seen it, check it out.

Anonymous

funny, those Canadians don't look 150 years old

Anonymous

the recycling of the unicorn footage from Legend has long been debunked. Blade Runner's unicorn was part of the original 1981 shoot. They shot it along with the interiors of Leon's bathroom back in the UK after they'd finished the bulk of the movie in Burbank

Anonymous

I was quite young the first time I watched Blade Runner and didn't watch it again until now. I remember being quite sucked in this universe as a young girl. It was nice! Watching this re : View, I think I was not able to pick up on all the inconsistencies and flaws Colin and Jay bring up in this. Also, I have no filmmaking knowledge whatsoever. It's always interesting to me to listen to your takes on films because they enhance and refine my ability to watch a movie with more lucidity. The only drawback I guess is that with more lucidity comes a certain loss of innocence. I guess that's what growing up is all about!

Anonymous

We don't get enough screen time with the Canadians. I had no idea Colin was so hilarious!

Valdis

Saw Blade Runner (theatrical cut) in the late 80s as a teen many many times on a decent home video system and it blew my young mind each time. The visuals, the music, the dystopian, smoky, futurist Sam Spade story... it really dug in deep and inspired my mind. Still does! I suppose timing is important, I just wish more movies had THAT much lifelong psychological impact. Also: Yay Canadians! :D

Anonymous

I feel like Deckard’s humanity is not defined by whether or not he was created by the Tyrell corporation. It’s defined by his ability to make choices, to save someone’s life, to cherish memories, to not follow the orders of an omnipotent corporation. The *question* of whether or not he’s a replicant furthers the idea that our humanity is not defined by how we are created, its by what we do. I feel that question adds to the movie. You can see it other films like “The Matrix” when Neo discovers he was created by machines, or in Total Recall when we’re made to question whether or not much of the film is a dream. It’s an essential existential dilemma that’s at the core of many Phillip K Dick works (not necessarily in the novel on which Blade Runner is based though) The film proposes a future where the line is so blurred between human and synthetic, that we have to redefine what we classify as human.

Kyle Williams

I saw Blade Runner as a kid in the 80s but it was too slow, and the themes too deep for my young mind. Watching it again more recently I've gained a real appreciation for it. It isn't one of my favorite Sci-Fi films, but I definitely do like it now.

Anonymous

I saw this equally bizarre Ridley Scott quote recently on the idea of a possible Alien/Bladerunner shared cinematic universe: "Yes. I think that, you know what, George has always proved that. Of course there’s always something. George Lucas. You know, and the way he’s handled Star Wars has been spectacular. It’s what I’ve been trying to do to really evolve Alien, because in those days I wasn’t into making sequels, but now suddenly you realize, “Well, that’s stupid.” I’ll use the word “duh” again, right? You’d better get into sequels, duh. So that’s in a way what I’ve been doing."

Anonymous

To Colin and Jay's point about Deckard being a replicant not making sense since he would be more advanced than Rachel - that's only an issue if you assumed Deckard is as old as he thinks he is, and his memories are all real. If he's a brand new prototype bladerunning replicant who was just hatched after Roy and his team got to Earth - and all his memories are implants (like Cylons) than it works fine - M Emmet Walsh delivers all of his lines like he's in on a joke that Deckard isn't ("ha ha! he thinks he's people!") - - I agree though that Sean Young's perforance as the world's most roboty robo-woman is totally at odds with the intent of her character.

Adam Dukovich

Ridley Scott should have retired from filmmaking a decade ago. I quite liked Matchstick Men and American Gangster but he hasn't done anything that's risen above the level of "interesting failure" since then. C'mon Ridley, give some eager young filmmaker an opening!

Anonymous
>>6005435

His Kingdom of Heaven director's cut is actually one of my favorite movies, though that was still over a decade ago. Man does the quality of his films shift from picture to picture.

Anonymous

Well, I rewatched it last night for the first time in like 30 years and I have to say, it had difficulty maintaining my interest. I was craving the moments when Rutger Hauer was on screen because they were the only moments where I was emotionally invested. Harrison Ford and Sean Young look like they are sedated throughout all the movie. I was about 10 when I first watched it and looking back, I think I was just fascinated by the visuals and lightning. With different two main leads and a better pacing, it would be great.

Anonymous

I got into a huge argument with one of my film school teachers over Blade Runner. It's so boring and awkward. The incredible visuals don't change that. If I wanted Vistas, I'd use my time machine and go back to 2007 again.

Anonymous

Blade Runner is with out a doubt the most beautiful boring film ever made.

Anonymous

Denis Villeneuve said in an interview at SDCC that the Bladerunner 2049 is his film and that he made that clear to Scott before filming began. It gives me hope for the film.