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Episode 465 - The Invisible Man - Part 4 (Patreon)

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2019-08-31 02:38:40
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Whoa - S*#T JUST GOT VISIBLE! It's the conclusion of The Invisible Man by H.G. Wells!

Thanks again to reader Greig Johnson. Listen to Dr. Snake and the Snake Doctors!

Next up: The Battery by Michael Shea!

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Anonymous

It would not be very dramatic, I suppose, but I'd love a novella about an invisiblian who wanders around helping things go well for folks. A nice, principled, non-creepoid. A... I'm boring myself.

Anonymous

I would freak out in the Invisible man's place if I could not turn visible again. The fear to be turned into a lab animal would be unbearable and, even if he offered his notes to replicate the formula, he surely would have been vivisected. I agree that he is a sociopath but the trauma of his condition pushed him to the edge.

Steve

Didn't you say the snow and rain thing in the last episode?

Anonymous

Re climate and invisibility, honestly I think a Mediterranean climate like Algiers (which IIRC doesn't really get scorching like much of the rest of North Africa) would be the best scenario for invisibility. As someone from the tropics, I shudder at the thought of mosquitoes feasting on unprotected invisible flesh.

Anonymous
>>26349289

Wouldn't a place like Algiers be cold at night though? I know deserts get cold after dark. (But I am not sure just how deserty Algiers is). Edit: I looked up Algiers, and I was wrong. It has a Mediterranean climate, since it is on the coast. So it should be pretty warm day and night. Though apparently it does get chilly in the winters.

Anonymous

“The Fantasy of living in a Department Stores” ... See Evening Primrose by Steven Sondheim and the short story of the same name.

Anonymous

Like all your podcasts, loved this series! Sadly, I had never read this before now. This is my first comment because I’m finally caught up! I’ve been bingeing you two since February!! Somewhere in there became a Patreon & now am not sure what to do?! I have to wait for a change! I bought & read Deadbeats - loved it! Chris, thanks so much for taking the time to sign my copy of Transreality & chatting with me a bit on email! Loved it, but the first thing that popped into my mind when reading it was the song “How Bizarre”!! Lol! Chad, bought & love “Fear Boys With Bugs”! My favorite song so far is Frankenstein Man! I turn it up loud & my husband just rolls his eyes! Thank you both for doing this podcast!

Anonymous
>>26377620

The whole department store thing got me thinking of the movie Mannequin, and all its department store hijinks.

Jason Thompson

That was awesome! You should totally cover “The War of the Worlds” too. It’s amazing how Wells invented the alien invasion genre pretty much entirely out of whole cloth and frankly how little anyone else has added to it since.

Anonymous

I came across an article on the new version of The Invisible Man coming out in 2020. https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3581190/leigh-whannells-terrifying-new-take-invisible-man-detailed-full-synopsis/

Anonymous

Is this a Farce? A Comedy of Manners? He seems to believe that the lower classes will just be stupid and bow and scrape before his genius and sheer gentlemanism.

Anonymous
>>26329393

I know you’re joking but there’s some merit in this idea. I imagine a claustrophobic story that takes a quick descent into disbelief, paranoia and murder.

Anonymous

Such a neat story. I have to admit, I have never read the book nor have I seen the original films. I always thought Hollowman was some sort of strange bastardization that went dark for effect. Now, having listened to this and then reading the story, I see that the more recent movie wasn't really that far off...

Anonymous

I wasn't familiar with Wells's Law before, but it nicely explains why things like The Justice League sit poorly with me. Wonder Woman in WWI? Great. Wonder Woman plus a flying alien, a handsome Deep One and a leather-fetish millionaire? I'm out.

Anonymous

All the business with the snow and his need for clothes just makes me wonder how much different the story would have been if Wells had set it somewhere like California or Florida, where it's a whole lot warmer, and easier to walk around naked most of the time. The Invisible Florida Man is a story that I'd like to read!

Anonymous

Island of Dr. Moreau next, please!

Anonymous
>>26451845

Probably already at least one on Daily Beast or Infowars or Truth Seeker. "Florida Man eats bath salts, becomes invisible or thinks so. Other Floridians play along."

Avlin Starfall

I have never read or heard this story before. I just knew of the movies but nothing of the source material. Hearing the ending I agree with Chad on its meaning. I think it is telling us like many stories do, that even though we see horrible things happen to someone who has power or abilities we think. "Well, if I had those it would be different!" Also, I feel like it is making a comment on how people will keep things secret if they know it is or has been some kind of power or wealth or something like that and not share it even if they can't use it or understand it. Obviously the guy at the end can't understand what all the formula and things were talking about but he will never share it to even have a chance to understand it as he doesn't want someone else possibly being able to have this power as well.

Anonymous

Great finale for this story! I always found the ending interesting in that also humanity and nature brutally rejects the Invisible Man, we do still imagine like Marvel that we could somehow do and be better people. When it comes down to it, don’t each of us secretly think we’re smarter than other people? Fingers crossed for a The Island Of Dr. Moreau. Did you know there’s a Batman: The Animated Series episode that referenced it called “Tyger, Tyger”? That started me on the Welles path as a kid.

Anonymous

I don’t think invisibility would only lead to negative acts, like Chad and Chris talked about. An invisible man could infiltrate crime rings, uncover dirty politicians, or disarm terrorists with hostages. However, if I found myself naked and invisible in a 1890s department story, like in this story, I honestly believe my first actions would be to cause mischief. For example, I would stand behind manikins and when children walked by I would moan and move the arms around. When an old woman walked past the hair hair products I would quietly “meow” and move one of the wigs. I would have a ball peen hammer, then when wealthy women were trying on jewelry I would crack the mirror as they looked in. I would also hang out in the dressing room, not for nefarious reasons but so I could play an invisible slide whistle when anyone dropped their pants. Stuff like that.

Anonymous

As you mention how hard it is for the Invisible Man to perform everyday tasks, it is my belief that the real reason the villagers cover his face is not because his expression is horrible. It’s more likely because of the terrible job of shaving he did while invisible.

Anonymous
>>26444516

I definitely agree, as I often get turned off by films with a ton of super heroes, preferring films with the single hero, making them seem more special. In spite of this I am a professional wrestling fan (which is basically a mythic world entirely populated by superhero type characters) so who knows. In any case, although this obviously applies to overloading fantasy and sci-fi, I do feel Well's Law accounts for the success of say Watchmen and Frank Miller's run on Daredevil that are so groundbreaking and compelling because they treated everything but the super powers as true to life as possible.

Anonymous

Wells really stacked the deck against invisibility. Put it in the hands of a Sociopath/Psychopath with illusions of grandeur and poor impulse control--that manages to succeed IF he is naked and it's winter. Conveniently albino, he has no family or friends to offer social support, loses his lab and all its pricy, pricy chemicals and equipment rendering him incapable of reproducing or reversing his success on, say, some warm clothes. He is almost incapable of making a good decision! It's funny how the discussion here lingers on the ethic and legal aspects. Are there any good uses? Is it only for sneak thieves and spies? It almost reads like an instruction manual in reverse.

Anonymous
>>26523285

Did anyone else notice that at the end of August, in the comic "Brewster Rocket," Brewster was invisible?

Anonymous

If you want to read another invisibility tale from Wells' era, try "The Shadow and the Flash" by Jack London, published in 1903. It's a short story featuring TWO mad scientists who each take a different approach to invisibility and face off in a full invisible mad scientist showdown! Easy to find the text online.

Anonymous
>>26421214

Wells built his story on the "future war" fiction model begun a few years earlier and made popular (wildly popular, indeed) in stories like "The Great War in England in 1897" by Le Queux, but his was certainly the first major use of a full alien invasion published in English (I think there was at least one German novel prior to it, but I'd have to search for details). Wells also added to the non-alien future war subgenre himself before becoming disillusioned with and a little embarrassed by his scientific romances and moving on to frankly less memorable work.

Anonymous

If anyone’s looking for some fantastic modern scientific romances, Ted Chiang is definitely worth checking out. He’s alive so his stories wouldn’t be suitable for the show, but I thought I’d mention him. He’s a sci-fi author who draws his ideas from complex scientific and mathematical concepts. His story “Story of your Life” was the source material for the film “Arrival”.

Anonymous

I watched Hollow Man last night, and they had something interesting. Kevin Bacon played the invisible man, and he had trouble sleeping. His eyelids were invisible, so even when he closed his eyes, they were essentially still open. That was a really neat - and weird - observation on the unique challenges to be being invisible.