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Discussing CES & 2022 Products w/ Hardware Unboxed's Tim (Patreon)

Published:
2022-01-07 01:20:46
Imported:
2022-04

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Broken Silicon's next guest will be Tim from Hardware Unboxed!  As one would expect - we will be heavily discussing the latest releases and upcoming 2022 products:

  • Mini LED Monitors
  • Rembrandt
  • AMD 6000M
  • Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti Laptop
  • Alder Lake Mobile
  • RX 6500 XT & RTX 3050
  • i9-12900KS
  • R7 5800X3D
  • Raptor Lake
  • ZEN 4
  • RDNA 3 & Lovelace

But feel free to ask about anything - especially about any recent announcements from CES Tom & Dan haven't gotten around to discussing yet.  You have 48 hours to submit questions & comments below.  Be concise, use good grammar, and be thoughtful to be considered!

Comments

Anonymous

Hi TnT, Threadripper 5000 has been on and off the rumor mill quite alot. I was hoping for some info at CES but sadly nothing. Any word or new information on the leaked March 2022 date? Or are there whispers of this being canceled? Thanks!

Anonymous

Hey Tom and Tim, What do you make of the new Radeon S mobile GPUs both in naming and the actual products? From a naming standpoint I find it might get confusing with the amount of SKUs on the other hand it is a clear distinction between different TDP levels for the same silicon - in contrast to Nvidias mess. For the product itself I did not catch enough info on specs to understand what Nvidia (or Intel) GPUs they tackle but maybe you can paint a picture of what products would ship with these? Best, Dom

Alex

Hey Do you think that it's fair/good idea to bring put a 3080ti which (likely) will be so hamstrung by power and thermals, that it'll barely perform better than some previous gen cards? Do you think it would be a better idea for nvidia to launch a different line of laptop cards like the max q (which I think they're bringing back?)

Jen-Hsun Huang

Hello Tom and Tim, Why do gamers not seem to have appreciated my 2050 and 2060 12GB gifts to celebrate 20 years since the GeForce 3? For a more reasoned question: Given the die size of Navi24 being noticeably smaller than Rembrandt, and OEM pricing being below/around 100 dollars for most cpus, is it possible AMD might make a higher margin at $199 on the 6500xt, and be willing to move wafers from mobile to that dGPU? I hope you enjoy the great heating performance of the 3090ti when winter arrives in Australia Tim!

Swiggles

Let's say that everything lives up to our reasonable expectations how excited for the releases this year are you both just pure hope with the shortages will be over in their majority

Anonymous

Hi Tim and Tom! Lisa Su recently said that she expects AM5 to be ‘long lived’. How sincere do you feel like AMD is being with this statement? Do you think having yet another long lived platform can help AMD stay truly competitive against a resurgent Intel in the years ahead? Wish you both a very happy 2022! Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/290648/amd-socket-am5-a-long-lived-platform-ceo

CompressedAIBlocks

Hey Tom and Tim, just wondering how you both feel about mobile hardware in 2022? How do you expect the landscape to play out? Personally based off of seeing Alder Lake on desktop I can only assume Intel is going to reign supreme in both singlethreaded and multithreaded workloads due to raw IPC/clock speeds and the core advantage Intel has (Never thought I'd be writing that Intel has a core advantage). Do you think with AMD's new platform focused features like the various types of smartshift and the improved connectivity that the brand name of Ryzen will carry it in 2022? I just have a hard time seeing Ryzen being competitive unless we're talking performance per watt or lower TDP models.

Anonymous

Hi Tom and Tim, With Tom's whisper catching ability and Tim's magic ball. Any idea where the cost of the 5800X3D may fall. If this is going to beat a 12900K in gaming only. Is it going to be priced reasonable or its going to be better if my money go elsewhere. I am seriously looking to upgrade my 2700X for something faster for gaming.

Anonymous

Hi Tom, this CES the cpu announcements from AMD were intresting but rdna2 stuff for mobile leaves a lot to be desired. Why are we not seeing any Rdna2 60-80 CU dies on mobile even though we know rdna 2 scales very well on mobile. Is the high profit margins of desktop gpus and them not willing to split it to mobile segments.

Anonymous

Hi Guys, have you caught the jab at Intel's Alder Lake from this laptop OEM guy at CES? He said: "AMD is the only team, that can deliver a performance core and an efficient core, in the same core." I found it quite funny, not only because the 12900 K's stock setting uses more power than my 6700 XT, but because that could have been a reference to, what you Tom, leaked a few months ago about Zen 4D and Zen 5's big little approach. That brought me onto the Idea, what a future AMD or Intel laptop APU might look like. As Alder Lake now features 20 threads in a 45 W package, Rembrandt powered by RDNA 2, DG2 & 3 on the horizon, Raptor Lake's 16E cores, Meteor Lake's tile design, Zen 5's big little... So my question is, what will a gaming laptop APU look like, or what would you wish it looked like both from AMD and Intel in 2024?

Anonymous

Hello Mr. LawIsDead and Mr. Unboxed, now that 2021 and CES are finished, what are you most optimistic for going into 2022 (or, to appropriate a joke: quarters 9-12 of 2020) now that all the halo launches are out of the way (with the 3090ti, 12900KS, and 5800X3D to name the ones that stood out to me the most)

Christopher Mullins

This is bound to be a legendary couple of hours. 2 of the greats attempting to add perspective to a market that has lost perspective.