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Discussing 2021 & 2022 Releases with Dan & Dawid Does Tech Stuff - End of Year Telegrams (Patreon)

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2021-12-14 01:54:13
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2021-12

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Have you noticed?  The year is almost over!   This year's End Of Year Series will be a two-parter with the first half being a look back at 2021 with Dan, and then the second half will be a look forward with Dawid Does Tech Stuff!

Write in below with your thoughts, reflections, and questions regarding 2021 developments....and your hopes, questions, and anticipations for 2022!  Please feel free to submit multiple questions - separate them though into multiple submissions.  Tom will divide them up between the two episodes accordingly.  You have less than 48 Hours to submit, and ideally you should submit before the evening of 12/14/21.

Feel free to ask/comment about anything not on the list below, but s a refresher, here are subjects we will discuss from 2021 and 2022:

----------------2021-------------------

-Cezanne

-Nvidia CMP Series

-RTX 3060 12GB

-RX 6700 XT 12GB

-Rocket Lake

-Van Gogh

-Intel DG2 Pictures Leaked while half of the community said "Xe was Vaporware"

-Zen 3+ Warhol Debunking

-RTX 3080 Ti

-Nvidia LHR

-AMD FSR

-Intel Raptor Lake Leaks

-RDNA 3 & Lovelace Leaks

-Bergamo & Zen 4C

-Nintendo Switch 2 Leak

-RX 6600 XT & 6600

-PS5 Pro & XBOX Series Refresh Leaks

-Intel Alder Lake

-Windows 11


----------------2022-------------------

-AMD Rembrandt

-Mobile & Low End Desktop Alder Lake

-Intel Alchemist Launch

-Nvidia SUPER & Ti Refresh

-AMD Zen 3D

-Intel Raptor Lake

-AMD Zen 4

-AMD RDNA 3

-Nvidia Lovelace

-AMD Milan-X

-Intel Sapphire Rapids

-AMD Genoa

-Nintendo SUPER Switch (?)

-XBOX Series S Refresh


Dawid's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvcRA2Hva1lULVf4GCouH8w

Comments

KarbinCry

Any new scuttlebutt on Monet?

Anonymous

Some games talk would be cool. Games released in 2021 & announced for 2022, or maybe just sections covering The Game Awards nominations & announcements. Don't spend so much time on this that it will take away from the content planned, but just enough to give us stuff to be excited about running on all this new hardware.

Timo H

Now that 2021 has been year of paper launches, in sense either price is way too high or store shelves are empty, even "fake launches", can TSMC, amd, nvidia and intel join forces and finally feed demand in 2022? And fake launches 2021, refreshes meant "new lower end msrp" resulted in lowest price level just rose to that new minimum, can they finally fix this or at least charter fly those way too expensive products in time. DG2 looks promising like everything coming, but so far belongs to that same refresh/fake/paper launch category until it is actually in store shelves with reasonable price.

Timo H

As dystopian scenario, latest guest mentioned most pc game studios plan for lowest common denominator, eg gtx 1060. What will 2022 and 23 be if supply/demand forces studios to continue using this same benchmark level for 1-2 years more and adding to that possibly loosing bunch of gamers either to mobile or casual/FB games due to 3d gpu breaking and having to resort to igpus ? For 1060 still in use that is viable possibility, afaik gpus arent designed to last past 5 years in daily use (enthusiast miners take better care but not gamers).

Anonymous
>>73673504

The chip fabs just started expanding their capacity. It will be a few years before all of that comes online, but I feel your pain in wishing it would happen sooner.

Anonymous
>>73673807

The lowest common denominator right now is still PS4/XB1. However, I think we'll see a shift to PS5/XBSX and equivalent PCs within the next year or two.

Anonymous
>>73673223

Oscar-Claude Monet was a French painter and founder of impressionist painting who is seen as a key precursor to modernism, especially in his attempts to paint nature as he perceived it. --From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CompressedAIBlocks

Any news on Zen 4 IPC/performance and cache? I'd assume after Zen 3 V-cache comes out that most models should get a V-cache version with Zen 4, and if they do that will that approach it with all L3 cache as v-cache or will we still have it segmented into L3 cache + V-cache separately? You know if Zen 4 is 20-30% better than Zen 3, is this Zen 3 without V-cache or is this Zen 3 v-cache?

Alexander

What month do you think RDNA 3 will launch? Will it be before or after GPU prices and availability begin to stabilize? I recall you placing an estimate on when that crash would occur but don’t remember what your guess was, mid ‘22 maybe?

B. Fish

A question that I've been thinking about frequently, both in context of 2021 releases and 2022: Whats the point at which spending money to "upgrade" gets you nothing in terms of usable performance but rather gets "benchmark" numbers: i.e. ultra vs high, 140+ FPS vs 120. I question why anyone would ever need more performance than say 6800xt on desktop and like 3060 on laptop.

B. Fish

What gets me excited about 2022 releases are use cases which just weren't possible before: potentially decent gaming performance on a laptop with integrated graphics with Rembrandt, intel doing similar things at a better price point and at a wider availability with Alder lake (those tiger lake U chips were everywhere and alder lake looks head and shoulders better), maybe ray tracing actually being worth the performance hit.

Anonymous

I'm running an i9 9900k and 1080 Ti at 3440x1440 @ 100Hz and happily hitting at least 80 FPS with medium/high settings in most modern racing games. If I can upgrade to something next-gen around Q3 2022 I'll be happy. Hoping the next Test Drive Unlimited game set in Hong Kong turns out to be decent.

Christopher Mullins
>>73679878

4k 150 is a thing. Even at high i doubt the 6800 xt is anywhere close to "locked" framerate. I am in the camp that enough performance is enough as I am on 1080p165 with a gtx 1080. I hardly want an upgrade until it's actually cheap cheap. Like as cheap as I got my gtx 1080 for($175)

Cleansweep

What's up with Intel Graphics? The latest Arc leak has me worried, as a gamer who's trapped on old hardware due to the current market mess. Hearing that Intel hasn't provided AIBs to test out their PCBs yet, while Intel is promising a Q1 2022 launch, makes me worried that there's another Arc delay coming, and every delay brings Arc closer to RDNA 3 and Lovelace reveals that could blow it out of the water. Without compromising sources, could you explain what is going on here? Is it just underestimating the turn-around time for testing? Intel being perfectionists with their GPU silicon? A misguided attempt to save time by just dumping tons of dies on AIBs? Or something else entirely?

Anonymous

Oh hear ye Dan, thou master slayer of Fish: It is through the effort of thou, thou brother, and thy community that I hast found the path of the computer and the semiconductor. So I doth ask thou, Student of Harvard: Have thee any tips for the internship interview? Happy holidays, and have a good one!

kjm015

Seasons greetings, Tom and Dawid! Do either of you believe that 8K will ever become a practical resolution for consumers? If so, could next year's launches of RDNA3 and Lovelace be the first generation to provide a decent gaming experience in 8K?

Anonymous

When do you think we will have higher than 4 cores for the i3 CPUs, or is the i3 the new quad core is enough? Given AMD is making Zen4C, great job on that leak, would they also make 4 core chiplets on the same node as the other Zen 4 chiplets, or is it going or be on an older node like with Monet?

Anonymous
>>73721586

Will it ever? Sure. Next year? No way. We'll see affordable 8K TVs and 8K streaming before that happens, and honestly I'd give it at least another 10 years.

Alexander

Have you heard anything new about the Super Switch? ETA or specs or anything?

Alexander

Do you have a most-anticipated game of 2021?