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The chatter in the MPE building’s laundry room was energetic when Alden walked in with his gym suit over his arm.

“After we eat, we could all go do something at the mall together.”

“It’ll be late. We won’t even make it to the restaurant until after eight.”

“It’s Friday! Who cares if it’s late?”

“Marsha’s team is still in the gym. What do you think the faculty are doing with them?”

“They weren’t cohesive before, but that last run was too far, don’t you think? They completely broke down.”

“We could go to the cinema.”

“I’d rather shop. We have stipends now.”

“I already spent mine buying things for the dorm.”

Alden headed for a cleaning cabinet that Rebecca had just taken her own suit from. While he put the garment on the mannequin and hung the cuffs on the pegs, he listened to his classmates’ chatter. Even Febri and Shrike’s team, who’d suffered two losses today, didn’t seem too upset about it.

Olive was on the other side of the room grilling Haoyu about how he’d been able to tell her apart from her illusions, and Febri was trying to explain to Konstantin that the team had had a plan to make a statement about solidarity that had been ruined because of their defeat.

“We were going to almost win,” he explained, “and then we were going to have the last person refuse to cross the finish line. Because Søren isn’t here. It was going to be a gesture.”

“A gesture like that…” Kon rocked back and forth. “I see what you were going for, but that might make Søren feel uncomfortable?”

Sounds patronizing to me, too, thought Alden. But I guess Søren might appreciate the effort even if it’s misguided.

He shut the cabinet and leaned against it. It made a faint humming noise as the cycle started.

Instructor Klein had asked team Vandy/Marsha to stay behind after class instead of heading to the locker rooms with everyone else. He hadn’t said they were in trouble, but it didn’t seem likely that they were being held back for praise.

Upon hearing that her group was being singled out, Vandy had looked so appalled that if Alden hadn’t known what was going on he’d have assumed something earth-shattering had just happened.

He felt a little sorry for them, and he was glad he was here instead of in their shoes.

Officially the end of another week. Nothing to do tonight but take a bus ride down to F, eat dinner, and hang out.

His team had won. His skill had gotten a workout. And he’d just had a hot shower that he hadn’t needed to rush through. Some of the guys had decided the swimming tank was enough of a bath.

It would be almost perfect if Maricel hadn’t had to go.

He hoped whatever news she’d gotten wasn’t terrible. When the team had finished running the course, Fragment and the principal were both gone. It made him worry more, but they might have left for some other reason. Maybe they had last minute arrangements for the dinner or—

“Maricel!”

“Mari!”

“Are you all right?”

“Where’d you go?”

Some of the girls sitting on the benches by the door had spotted her first. Maricel had already changed out of her gym suit into a denim skirt and pink shirt.

“I’m good. I’m so sorry! A friend called, and they were in trouble so I had to—”

“A friend from home?”

“Are they okay?”

“Do you get to go back home to see them?”

“It’s all fine. I told Instructor Fragment. It’s taken care of.” She headed toward the nearest available cabinet while Everly and Tuyet told her all about what she’d just missed.

“Maricel!” Jeffy shouted. “We fed them to Victory!”

“Why do people on your team keep saying that?” Finlay asked Alden from the next cabinet over.

“I think it’s our motto now.”

Maricel looked over Everly’s shoulder toward him suddenly, and her dark brown eyes met his. Her smile was more strained than happy.

[Everything okay?] he texted her.

He expected her to say “yes” whether it was or not. She hadn’t been one to confide everything. Not since that first day they’d met, when she felt she’d said too much.

Sure enough, she nodded.

[We really missed you on the course.]

People were still calling out fight highlights to her; Alden’s name came up more than once.

“Alden killed Winston,” Haoyu said.

“He went for the throat.” Njeri sounded approving.

“Finlay, would that have killed you, too?” Jupiter asked. “Can we kill you that way?”

A lot of heads turned toward the Speed Brute.

“What are you all planning to kill me for!?” Finlay said. “And how should I know? Nobody’s ever tried to take my head off with a fishing line. We didn’t do that kind of thing at my old school.”

“They don’t train you for lethality during PE in Scotland?” Alden asked. “Imagine that.”

Finlay laughed.

<<It would kill him if he hit it like Winston did,>> Ignacio said. <<But he might not hit it like Winston did.>>

“That’s true,” Finlay agreed with a shrug. “My visual processing and reaction time are better than his. I also try not to go at top speed when I’m about to engage with someone. Liu Arielle says in battles she goes faster than a villain can understand, not faster than she can understand. Pushing it all the way is for getting to the fight in the first place, isn’t it? Or when you’re outmatched.”

“Do you like Arielle?” Haoyu asked. “She’s friends with my parents.”

“She’s my favorite,” said Finlay.

“Was she your favorite before or after she got her last few upgrades?” Febri asked. “Because she became a lot of peoples’ favorite once she started getting the special stuff.”

“Some Brutes think speedsters taking short range teleportation is unBrutely,” said Rebecca.

“That’s because those Brutes are jealous they haven’t reached the point where the System gives you the option.” Finlay was gesturing animatedly. “They all slack off on their training when they get old if you ask me. Liu Arielle’s kept up her leveling all this time. She’s going hyperbolic sooner or later. I believe in her. I believe in me! I’m going to get that same skill one day.”

Kon was walking around the room, touching random stuff lightly with his fingers and closing his eyes.

His object reading skill outlasted the spell impression that went with it by a significant amount. He was supposed to be burning both talents out every day, just like the rest of them, but since he never had opportunity in class, he spent a lot of time poking things throughout the day and psychically analyzing their recent history.

He pulled his hand away from the unused washing machine at the back of the room and looked around at Finlay. “I’m surprised you didn’t go to Li Jean. She teaches there every now and then, and I’m sure you could’ve gotten in.”

“I did get in. But they invited me to watch some classes, and I decided it would be hard to follow along with the System translations and do my best in their gym. Felt like I’d be stopping to read every other second.”

While the conversation continued around him, Alden composed a message to Jeremy, describing his gym victory. Jeremy had hinted a couple of times that Alden wasn’t going into enough detail about the superpowers when they talked, so he wrote more than he normally would have.

By the time he was done and his suit was clean, Team Vandy/Marsha had been freed from whatever lecture they’d gotten. None of them were speaking to each other, so if the subject of the talking to had been the importance of team unity, it had failed.

Mehdi looked like he was ready to hit someone. Max’s expression was completely unbothered and pleasant because he was a scary bastard, but somehow tension was still emanating from him like a poisonous gas. And as for Vandy, a couple of the girls said she was hiding in an empty classroom while she called her family and confessed to all her personal failings.

Winston was nowhere to be found.

Everyone with a sense of self-preservation left them to lick their wounds and get dressed by themselves. Alden vacated the building with most of the class, walking between Lexi and Haoyu as they headed toward the nearby street. The wind that had been blowing grit around the track earlier hadn’t let up any, and there was a distant grumble of thunder.

One of the Celena North buses was waiting for them.

Alden sat by Jeffy, with Lexi and Haoyu across the aisle and Everly and Kon in front of him. As the bus filled up, Kon suddenly leaned out of his seat to look up and down the aisle.

“Everyone’s in pairs. Are we going to make Vandy’s team all sit together in the back?”

“Ha!” said Reinhard. “That’s hilarious.”

“It is a little,” said Kon. “But they’re going to ruin our class dinner if they get any more…how they are.”

“I saved a seat for Mehdi!” Heloísa called from near the front of the bus.

Everly giggled.

“We should pick out seats for all of them to reduce their tension,” Haoyu said brightly. “Winston and Alden can sit together. And Jeffy and Marsha. And Tuyet—”

“Get an instructor!” Astrid shouted. “They’ve accidentally let someone evil into the program.”

“Yes, we need to kick Haoyu off the bus,” Alden agreed.

******

Just after eight o’clock, the bus put them all out at one of the side entrances for Rosa Grove mall. Despite a number of increasingly horrible seating arrangements being discussed, the class had opted for nonviolence in the end. Alden had gone to the back to save a seat for Max, who’d stared silently out the window the whole trip. It wasn’t a bad thing since it gave Alden time to get some homework done en route.

Mehdi had sat with Kon, while Everly had spent most of the trip trying to cheer up Vandy.

Marsha and Winston had ended up sitting together by default. He was pretending to sleep so that he didn’t have to talk to anyone. But unlike the rest of their team, Marsha seemed barely bothered by the scolding they’d received. According to Haoyu, who could see her tablet from his own seat, she spent the ride watching best-of Meister fights compilations.

Alden was one of the last people to leave the bus, and as he stepped off, he was surprised to find that Maricel had hung back instead of heading toward the mall with Tuyet. Curious, he dragged his feet a little. In response, she dragged her own feet a little. Since everybody else was eager to get to the promised meal, they ended up lingering outside after the group had run ahead.

This section of the mall’s exterior had large advertisements playing on the walls. An Avowed famous for mountain rescues stood on a peak in a raging storm while the camera slowly zoomed in to show that her makeup was flawless, despite the water sheeting off her face. Bright red lips smiled, and the words “still kissable” appeared beneath her chin. Then the glitzy commercial faded to be replaced by images of children studying in a language academy.

“What’s up?” asked Alden, blinking against the wind as he looked down at Maricel.

“Do you remember when I asked you about wizards changing our return destinations after a summons?”

To somewhere other than Anesidora.

“Yep,” he said, keeping his voice light even though his stomach clenched at the topic.

Maricel took a deep breath. “It was for somebody I met in intake. He still wants to leave. I wanted…I was trying to find a safe way for him to do it, so he wouldn’t choose a dangerous way again. I told him what I read online about escaping after a summons being possible and what you said about it probably being true. I thought he believed me. I thought I had convinced him to wait a while.”

She sounded unhappy, but Alden couldn’t help feeling relieved that she hadn’t been asking for herself.

“The guy didn’t listen?” he guessed.

Maricel shook her head. “He sent me a message earlier. He said he had everything he needed ready. He said it was my last chance to go with him.”

Alden waited for her to continue.

“He’s going in a boat. It’s night. There’s rain coming, and the ocean’s very rough. Maybe that’s why he thinks the patrols won’t be able to find him this time.”

She’s worried.

“The authorities here do deal with stuff like this all the time,” Alden said. “And if you told somebody—”

“I told Instructor Fragment.” Maricel lowered her voice. “She and the principal stayed with me while we called someone from SkySea guard. They asked me a bunch of questions, but I don’t know anything. Only what I told you now.”

“Are you in trouble?”

“I don’t think so. But maybe I should be. I could’ve told someone earlier instead of trying to talk him out of it myself. They want me to keep trying to get in touch with him, so I text him every few minutes. But he stopped answering when he realized I wouldn’t go with him. If something happens…”

A trio of teenagers with non-Avowed tags stepped through the nearby doors. They shrieked as the wind almost stole the large pizza box from one girl’s hands, then they all started laughing about it.

“He’ll be fine,” said Alden. “There’s no way this is the first time someone’s tried to use rough weather to slip past the patrols. It probably happens weekly.”

“Fragment said the same thing. And the man who interviewed me didn’t seem worried, but—”

“Plus there’s always ETing.” Alden remembered Lexi telling Kon exactly that about his rough-seas boat trip to Matadero the day of the party. “If your friend capsizes, or if he gets lost, that’s always an option.”

She made a face. “I know. And thinking about it that way makes me wonder if I was wrong to tell on him. What if he could have made it? And been happy? But because of me, he’ll get caught.”

<<Most people don’t have a translation in front of their eyes,>> said the advertisement on the wall. <<Make sure your children can talk to the world.>>

“This isn’t the first time he’s run. They’ll put a lot of restrictions on him when they bring him back,” Maricel went on. “He’ll hate me forever. I…this is what I wanted to ask you. Once he’s back, if he doesn’t mind, will you try talking to him for me?”

“Why me?” Alden had wondered the last time she’d questioned him about escaping via summons. She seemed to think he had more insight to offer than he did. “I’m not an authority on getting off the island or being summoned or anything. There are much better people to—”

“You’re one of us,” Maricel said, taking a step closer to him. “A globie. That really matters to him. And you don’t hate it here, but you don’t think other people are stupid or crazy if they do. You’re a nice person. And you know summoners even though you’re our age. There aren’t any other people like that at all. Maybe he’ll listen to you.”

I guess if that specific combination of qualities is her criteria there aren’t a lot of matches.

“I mean…I’m willing to try I guess. No promises on my success at reasoning with anyone.”

“Thank you.” Her shoulders slumped and she let out a long breath. “You’re a better friend than I am. I’m sorry. I’ll try not to be so much trouble to you—”

“We’re good,” said Alden. “I’ve thought you were cool ever since you went off on those assholes who were like, ‘Ew…a Rabbit’ and declared your intention to run across a planet to get back home.”

She looked pained. “That’s really not who I am most of the time.”

“I get that. It was a bad day for you. You were still cool. Now stop worrying. Let the professionals handle the problem. And take me to eat.”

******

They feasted.

The restaurant was on the third floor of the mall. It wasn’t a big spot. Forty-one students, six instructors, and one principal nearly filled the place up. Tables had been pushed together for them by a line of windows that looked out over one of the mall’s outdoor recreation areas. A wide, shallow fountain with embedded lights periodically put on a show for people walking past down there. Alden assumed the jets of water operated in time to music, but he couldn’t hear it through the thick glass and the sound of everyone talking over each other.

“Do you think all the garlic fried rice is yours?” Lexi asked Alden.

“I think everyone else had their shot at it already.” He loaded his plate. “I have waited patiently. Now they can fight me for it.”

He spooned atchara beside his rice and eyed the fresh batch of lumpia that one of the servers had just set at the other end of the table. They looked like they were coated in caramelized sugar. Those must be dessert.

The stars were all meat dishes, including the crispy lechon that Haoyu had been so eager to try. But the restaurant had made a delicious jackfruit entree, too, so Alden wasn’t suffering except from a bit of envy.

Principal Saleh was paying for everything, and the food kept coming. Dining with teachers had been stiff at first, but it soon became clear that this was more of a social, getting-to-know-you event in the faculty’s mind. The longer they went without talking about everyone’s performance and schoolwork, the more people loosened up.

Several seats away, Finlay was telling people about his father. “He retired from being an electrician and bought a pub. Loses loads of money on it and drives my mum crazy, but he says it’s his dream.”

“Instructor Klein and I were on the same hero team for a couple of years when I first started out,” Foxbolt was saying to Astrid. “We didn’t have a single superhuman incident with anyone over C-rank, but Berlin had just been selected to host a womb vault. Protesters were pouring in from everywhere, flooding the streets every day for months. And then when the building actually started, we were on guard duty 24/7.”

Astrid looked baffled. “Were that many people mad about it? I thought magical medical care wasn’t controversial anymore.”

“It’s not,” Foxbolt said. “In general. Artificial wombs are one of the most contentious areas remaining these days. Which is a bit odd considering they were almost universally praised when the Contract was first being hammered out.”

Instructor Klein heaved a sigh. “Most of you are thinking about careers that will lead you off the island, so you have to start paying attention to what’s going on in the world. Those of you who were born here will find that a number of things our society considers completely benign are scandalous in other places and vice versa.”

“On that note, you’ll all get to take everyone’s favorite course twice, right before you graduate from the high school and in uni,” Principal Saleh said, giving the people in her vicinity a wicked smile. “‘Avowed Comportment and Representation.’”

“We have to take the national manners class more than once?” Reinhard asked.

Alden was sitting far enough away from them that he wasn’t really involved in the conversation, but at that, he swallowed a lump of garlic rice and looked across the table at Lexi and Haoyu. “What’s the national manners class?”

Haoyu, who had just stuffed another bite of pork belly into his mouth, nudged Lexi demandingly with an elbow.

“It’s what it sounds like,” Lexi said. “They teach you how the government wishes you’d behave and what they want you to say about certain issues whenever you’re working or communicating with people off the island.”

Kon, who had claimed the seat on the other side of his brother, rolled his eyes. “It’s the brainwashing class. The high council made it mandatory for schools to teach it a long time ago—”

“More than a decade,” Lexi said.

“But people are still fighting about it during elections,” Kon concluded.

“Who decides what our national comportment should be?” Alden asked.

“That’s what the fights are mostly about.” Haoyu took a sip of his water. “When they’re not about whether or not something like that should exist in the first place.”

Mehdi had been quiet and moody for most of the meal, so it was a surprise when he chimed in. “It’s not fair. The really old people lived however they wanted and said whatever they wanted when they got their powers. And now they’re suddenly trying to make all of these rules for the rest of us.”

Vandy overheard him. “But we have a country of our own here now. They didn’t.”

Another server dropped a plate in front of Alden, and he finally got his hands on the dessert offering. The crunchy, sugar-coated spring roll wrappers were full of banana. He took one and bit into it, giving himself permission to zone out while Vandy expounded about the unprecedented nature of Anesidora and the importance of careful lawmaking.

Marsha was watching Shrike spin a knife. Winston was picking at his food and avoiding everyone’s eyes like he’d suffered a terrible humiliation instead of a combat death in the gym.

Dare I hope he’ll be less of a pain moving forward?

Max and Jeffy were sitting beside each other and answering Instructor Marion’s questions about where they’d grown up. Max was talking about South Africa like a normal person, in contrast to Jeffy, who was delivering unnecessarily obscure hints about his own home. Instructor Marion looked confused, and Alden couldn’t blame him. About the only thing you could pin down from the ramble was that Jeffy had grown up in a house with grandparents and an uncle.

He’d just finished describing his former school as “a place where there might or might not have been many people with mohawks.”

“All right.” Marion’s tone said that he’d decided going with it was the correct course of action. “As for me, I grew up not far from where we’re sitting right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if my parents are wandering around the mall at the moment. They eat out every night, and they like the food hall downstairs.”

Max nodded. “Are you second gen or—”

“Third on one side,” the instructor said. “Second on the other.”

That prompted a turn in the discussion as people started chiming in with their own Avowed lineages. Unlike Marion, most of the faculty present had been born off the island. The students, of course, had almost all been born here. And more of them had large families than Alden had realized.

Nobody was describing anything quite like the multigenerational Velra clan situation, but the number of people mentioning tons of siblings was more than he would have expected from a cross-section of peers back home.

Mehdi had three older brothers, an older sister, and a little brother. Tuyet was one of seven. Jupiter had a set of siblings all named after planets in their solar system.

“Except they skipped Uranus and went straight to Neptune.”

When Kon piped up to inform everyone that he and Lexi were expecting another sibling sometime in the next couple of years, his brother reached over to smack him on the back of the head.

“Ow! What was that for?”

“Don’t just tell everyone on the island our parents’ reproductive plans.”

Kon rolled his eyes. “There’s going to be a whole new person with our last name. What are we supposed to do? Pretend they found a baby growing on a tree?”

“That’s not the poin—”

“Do you know if they’re going to have a girl or a boy?” Astrid asked.

“They let us all be surprises, so I assume it’s going to be the same for Number 4.” Kon held up a fork threateningly when Lexi looked like he wanted to smack him again.

Alden filed that information away in his “don’t make assumptions” file. If anyone had asked him, he would have guessed Lexi and Kon were designed. They were both aesthetically gifted even though they didn’t have points in Appeal yet. Plus, if you ignored personality, style, and the fact that Lexi was crazy fit from keeping up his ballet physique, they would have looked very similar even by brotherly standards.

“What about you Alden?”

Alden looked at Astrid questioningly.

“I know you don’t have brothers and sisters, but do you have a lot of cousins?”

“No. It was just me and my aunt.”

He thought that would be the end of his turn, but everyone was still waiting patiently, like they were giving him time to say more.

Really, you guys. That’s it for me on the family front. There might be some distant cousins thrice removed out there somewhere, but other than that…

“I have two close friends back home,” he added. “One of them is practically my brother.”

He steered clear of saying, “His parental situation was shitty. We basically raised each other.”

“Is it the friend who’s keeping your cat?” asked Haoyu. “What’s his name? Is he going to come visit?”

Alden suddenly realized he’d dived headfirst into something more dramatic than he’d intended. Okay. So, even the shareable portions of the Boe situation sound kind of…

“His name’s Boe. I’m sure he’ll come visit eventually. He’s on my guest list.” Alden tried to sound casual. “I haven’t mentioned him before because he’s not home right now. He ran away after my funeral.”

Haoyu blinked. Lexi frowned. Kon squinted at him.

“I managed to get in touch with him a few weeks ago,” Alden explained. “He’s fine. He said he would go back home as soon as he’d figured things out.”

This story had been supported by some of the fake phone calls Boe had insisted Alden make in public locations.

Nobody responded.

“And there’s my friend Jeremy. His parents are lawyers. He has a sister in marching band. He’s taking great care of my cat!”

Thank you for being the sane one, Jeremy.

Alden searched his mind for other proof that he’d had a mundane and solid social life before coming to Anesidora.

I regularly buy gifts for an alien chained to a desk in the Chicago consulate. That’s not exactly…ah, screw it. I’ll tell them about how Kibby is cooler than all the other younger siblings that have been mentioned tonight.

“You had a funeral?” Kon blurted.

Lexi looked over at him. “You know everyone thought he was dead. What else would’ve happened?”

“I do know. It just never occurred to me that he’d had an actual funeral.”

“Was it a good funeral?” Astrid sounded fascinated.

“I mean…I wasn’t around for it,” said Alden, startled. “But no. There were like a thousand people there, and I only knew a few of them well.”

“That is so weird,” said Kon. “It must feel really weird. Does it?”

“Was there a casket?” Astrid asked. “Or an urn?”

“It’s only weird if I think about it. I haven’t had much time to bother. And according to my aunt, there was no casket, Astrid. Just a giant picture of me on a stand.”

“You deserved something more exciting than that,” said Haoyu.

“I agree,” said Astrid. “I could come up with a better funeral in five minutes.”

The dinner ended with a lot of people planning increasingly absurd funerals for themselves.

Alden eventually found himself nodding along while Astrid described her wish to have her ashes launched off the top of Nautilus Needle at midnight by a magic cannon.

Haoyu wanted a statue made of himself and placed somewhere statues didn’t belong in order to perplex as many people as possible. And Lexi refused to play along, which resulted in Kon planning a jazz funeral for him without his input.

When they left the table, their stomachs were full of food, and they were all laughing too loudly about their own dumb ideas.

Alden decided that was a nice combination, all things considered.

******

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a few hours earlier

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******

Jacob hadn’t meant to call Maricel Alcantara. It wasn’t part of the plan. But as the cruiser had set off, dipping down into a wave and making his stomach churn, he’d suddenly thought, What if she regrets it?

This place that pretended to be a palace one minute only to show its true colors as a prison the next—she thought she’d be all right here, with these people, but how could she be? Everything got worse when you left intake, not better as people kept promising him.

So he’d sent her a message. He’d tried to give her one last chance.

She’d refused, and he’d forced himself not to answer any of her subsequent messages.

They would probably never see each other again.

Salt water spattered the windows as the man in the cockpit flipped switches and turned the silver wheel. Jacob sat with the others in the cabin. The boat was well-appointed, but he could hardly make out the wood floors or the galley. Supplies covered every surface. The dinette furniture had been removed to make room for something particularly large wrapped in a tarp.

There was food, of course, but mostly the boat was filled with magical equipment, spell ingredients, cases that Jacob was sure held weapons—all things that were difficult or expensive for people to obtain off Anesidora.

The bunks had been left intact, but they’d have to sleep in shifts if they wanted to use the beds. Three of the passengers were crammed onto the small settee right now, and a fourth was sitting on top of a large plastic bin he’d proudly told Jacob was full of stolen potions. The fifth was…there was no fifth.

<<I robbed a dispensary earlier today. That wasn’t easy. But it will be a welcome gift for our brothers in the fight,>> the man sitting on the bin had said.

Jacob was the youngest here. The man who’d stolen the potions was around twenty-five. The one on the end of the settee who kept humming to himself and picking at a scab on the back of his hand until it bled looked a decade older. The girl with her soft, dark curls piled up on top of her head in a barette had said she was “nineteen and ready to see what’s out there” when they all introduced themselves. The other one…there was no other passenger.

The captain had graying hair.

I wonder if I’m a part of “the fight” now.

He hadn’t planned to be, but ever since he’d first reached out to Superhumans at Large, he’d felt like the stars kept aligning. Everything they asked for came to him so much easier than he’d thought it would.

His eyes found his own contribution to the boat’s wealth of strange devices. The Submerger had a place of honor on the floor just beside the captain. The aquarium-like container sat on top of a crystal dial that was obviously made to hold it.

Jacob hadn’t had to get that part. The captain had been in possession of it already, and he knew how to use it from a previous experience with one of these devices.

The Submerger would only be the second one SAL had obtained. They were calling him a hero.

I don’t think they would be as impressed with me if they’d met Orpheus Velra themselves. He’d have sold Earth to the devil for a cigarette.

“You need to relax.” The girl bumped his knee with her own. “We’ve got a long trip ahead of us even with our friends meeting us halfway. If you stay this tense the whole time, it’ll be rough.”

“Aren’t you nervous, too?” Jacob asked.

“Not much.”

<<No reason for any of us to be nervous,>> the captain said. <<As soon as we’ve gained some more distance from the island, we’ll use this beautiful thing.>>

He pointed down at the Submerger.

<<We’ll sink down deep, deep. And we’ll go so slowly we become one with the depths. So slowly we leave no mark for them to trace and make no sound for them to hear. We will slip past the patrols and pass through the sea without an echo.>>

Jacob swallowed.

The captain smiled out at the darkening sky. <<We will fade from Anesidora like shadows. And no one will see us again until we are reborn into the light.>>


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Comments

Carl Earl

Yay Soup! Tyftc, more after I absorb it. This is definitely a chapter for raising more questions than it answers. We still don't know what, if anything, Winston and co learned from their loss, and now we get to wonder what the instructors held them back to hear, and if it will help. We found out Maricel's emergency, but now we have to wait to find out how the retrieval will go and who that sway is on the boat with him. We also get to wonder how Alden talking to him will go. Lots of questions....

JustMe

Thank youuuu

triad

Great

Memoryofgold

The title should be: "We" Feasted, thanks for the soup! 💕

Karl

Random Civilian - "Help I'm trapped in a tree. I need a hero" Marsha shows up and challenges the tree riding civilian to a duel before cutting him and the tree down. Marsha walks away satisfied at a job well done

Steve Park

i had almost given up but i persevered!!!

Voidsong

SOUP!! All hail Sleyca, giver of soup!

IV08004

Thank you

Llainway

Thanks Sleyca!!

C. Adkins

Love some fresh soup!

Anonymous

GOOD SOUP

Partha Peddi

Yup, 1 hr checks work like a charm. Now on to reading the chapter.

foxphire

earlyyyyy

Bloodorange17

A new thread in the tapestry, or perhaps an old one becoming more prominent. Definitely interested to see how the resistance plays into things in the future.

Diana Lee

Who was Haoyu going to say Tuyet should have sat with???

fonn

>Haoyu said brightly. “Winston and Alden can sit together. omg i cant believe haoyu ships walden :v whoa what an ominous ending scene! the captain's line sounds so cult-y. hmmm. two mentions of there definitely being no fifth passenger. perhaps an Imp-like Sway that causes you to forget they exist?

Moby Duck

TFTC! I was wrong about it being a family death, but this is just as exciting. It’s nice to see how much Maricel values Alden, although I doubt that he’ll have the same luck convincing Jacob as he did with her. I wonder what the conversation Team Marsha/Vandy got from the instructors was - likekly some form of “teamwork makes the dream work”, but since Marsha didn’t seem bothered maybe they don’t think her attitude was as bad as we think it is? Poor Vandy though, basically getting told off for being on a sinking ship and not stopping it sinking. I hope Max got some catharsis from watching Marsha being corkified, kinda hope for a small Max PoV at some point, that’s a mind I’d be interested in peering into.

CasualCheese

That fifth passenger is totally a Sway.

Lustratio

It’ll be hilarious if it turns out tot be a government sway just keeping track of the runaways.

Aetheo

Hey, Jacob, I think you're in a cult

Anonymous

I have been wondering what the villains of the world have been up to...

foxphire

I desperately want Alden's roomates to learn more about his "traumatic past"

SFGuru

"The fifth was…there was no fifth." "The other one…there was no other passenger." Looks like at least one Sway doesn't like being on the island either...

foxphire

As I was reading, I was like "this repetition of 'there is no fifth passenger' is so incredibly sus"

Zenopath (AEV)

So we just got introduced to the underwater Legion of supervillians. Can't wait for them to do something fun like disrupt the demon hunt on matador island.

Voidsong

I didn't even think Sway until reading the comments. I thought he was lamenting Marisol not joining

Neal Mayne

Thank you for the soup

Sunden

So I was thinking about Alden's skill earlier and I can't think of any good reason gravity affects the objects that Alden preserves. We've seen that he can preserve the momentum of an object, and he also seems capable of transferring momentum to an object while it's preserved (it seems he's the only one capable of affecting his object while it's preserved). Outside forces, like chunks of concrete, don't affect his object. So why on earth would gravity? Gravity is just another force. Is it Alden's perception/belief that his object should be affected by gravity the reason they are? Seems to me like the object he is preserving shouldn't weigh anything. If he can work around that limitation, so many things open up, like flight. Strap on a harness, preserve it (and therefore cancel the force of gravity) and jump. Of course, gravity would still act on Alden, and maybe he can't help transferring force to the harness (his weight) in which case it wouldn't work. It would be interesting to see Alden preserve his item from his OWN forces as well though, kind of like creating an anchor in reality where even he can't move the item unless he wants to. But really, the gravity thing was bothering me. Gravity is just another force! It shouldn't be applying to the preserved objects anymore than the force of chunks of flying concrete should! #GravityIsAConspiracy!

hmDrake

Whoops, did Jacob join a cult?

Neal Mayne

I doubt any level of ass chewing would affect Marsha much she seems like she has a bullet proof ego.

Gregory

I had figured Maricel’s surprise exit couldn’t have to do with Jacob because the instructors wouldn’t let her out of class for it. I didn’t think of security people asking her questions about it. Makes sense, both for the usual view of “supervillains” and for this group he seem to actually literally be supervillains.

Adam Andersson

Oh no. Jacobs plan is so much worse than I could have ever imagined.

Gregory

Also lol at Alden for just casually dropping “my funeral” and wondering why everyone went silent.

Cantamen

Good feast, now Alden can go home and prostrate himself before Lute.

John Anastacio

Thanks for the chapter Sleyca. I wasn't expecting a chapter about the dinner; I thought last chapter would be the final one depicting that Friday. I feel satisfied that Maricel left in a frantic hurry because of Jacob. Just as I guessed. That was so not the behavior of a girl who had lost or was about to lose a relative. Fried banana with sugar is good with or without spring roll wrapper. I wonder if Winston was 'nowhere to be found' because they made him wait a bit for an extra-special personal lecture. If I were the teachers I'd consider banning him from using a camera drone to record his feats of athleticism and 'bravery' and his winning smiles. His vanity is getting in the way of his training. Or maybe they're just annoyed he made Lucille cry. I'm not surprised Marsha was fine with the lecture. She probably thinks the teachers are weak hacks and trying to turn her into a weak hack, too. It will take much more than one lecture for her to see the good in teamwork and the bad in dueling.

Daniel

Alden's skill keeps things from changing. Alden perceives floating in sudden zero gravity as a change. So his objects don't do that.

Spygeneer

The "nonexistent" last member on the boat seems pretty suspicious. They must have a sway-like ability to impede other peoples perception of them.

Eddie

That ending definitely feels like the calm before the storm... I can imagine a huge superhero fight breaking out or a superhero getting caught by surprise and losing/dying because they only expected a single globie. It doesn't seem like a scenario where the submarine group don't escape in the end.

Anonymous

I sense incoming superhero conflict

Stylemys

I wonder if the Velras ever figured out their Submerger was missing. That feels like something you really don’t want to find out is missing just when you actually need to use it.

Neil H

I wonder if it's Mina, the S-rank sway from the assessment who wouldn't tell Alden what her full sway powers were in exchange for partnering.

Chris

Wonder if its that one girl that wouldn't show her skills to Alden during the assessment. Mina. Definitely has a sway skill that would scare others.

Neal Mayne

I'm thinking either a fight where they slip away or they don't catch them at all because the group is far more prepared then they thought.

Sesharan

You know, I was starting to wonder whether there was really anything that we’d recognize as Proper Supervillains in this setting, rather than just criminals with superpowers. That’ll definitely do the trick! (Also, a random thought that popped into my head halfway through the chapter: it’s somehow surprising to me that CNH has busses, even though they’ve been mentioned before. Do we think they’re classic yellow school bus style? For some reason I’m envisioning Greyhounds.)

Neil H

I wonder if Kon's ability can stack with Alden's. For example, if something breaks, can Alden preserve it until Kon is able to take a look at it? I also wonder if Kon can restore Alden's expended temper spheres.

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

You know, somehow I suspect that the instructors keeping one team back for a lecture is not a typical procedure for these events. I think team Marsha/Vandy/Winston really messed up big time. The school expects better from their prospective "heroes."

Box Jellyfish

Something about Marsha just clicked for me - she acts like she's getting advice from someone who thinks they know far more than the teachers. It's not good advice, but she trusts it so just does her own thing, secure in her belief that her way is the best way.

Stylemys

So Jacob definitely won’t be caught and Maricel will definitely think he died. Everyone assumes he’s in some cobbled together ship braving the storm, not a stealth submersible. Mari is not going to take this well.

Gregory

He has to be burdened by the object and weight is a simple way for something to be a (physical) burden. Possibly it’s something he could work past, he already has a different workaround by using a preserved item to carry.

Neil H

This is the only other time I can recall "Superheroes at Large" mentioned, back at the Velra party (and Manon's headache) in 121: "Haoyu shrugged. “We can’t overthink every little thing. Last year, a member of my parents’ hero group wore a hat that resembled a hat that some member of Superhumans At Large was wearing when she was caught, and there are still people who refuse to believe it was a coincidence instead of a political statement. And…you do not look like this story is making you feel better, so…have some ginger ale!"

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

Interesting point about the super villains. Now that you mention it, I also just realized one of the teachers specifically mentioned that at their first hero job, they never had to deal with any superhumans over rank C. That was then brushed over in favor of talking about guarding a medical facility from protestors, but it is an interesting thing to note in light of the first real view of a supervillain organization we have had so far.

Karl

Winston during Aldens speech: Damn Rabbit gets a funeral and he isn't even dead. I bet 10000 people would show up to my funeral. I got decapitated and no-one threw me a funeral smh

Stylemys

That was my thought too. I kept waiting for her to appear again. Except I had thought she’d relent and ask Alden to let her use her powers on him during a future admissions test, rather than keep fishing the newbies. Since Alden got in, he’d definitely still count as one of her future schoolmates per the requirement. This would be an intriguing alternative though.

John Anastacio

Eh sooner or later it will come out. The Artonans who owned the Submerger will notice and complain.

John Anastacio

Maybe Kon can restore temper spheres, but his range is poor. About 4-5 minutes into the past. Alden has a better chance of preserving stuff for Kon to restore, but mostly only if he doesn't have to preserve too many separate pieces.

Neil H

Sure, but does the "timer" keep going when the object is preserved?

11037

More than sway-like, it's probably an actual sway. I think the bigger question is weather it's a high level villain, or a hero doing infiltration.

Gregory

The faculty giving team Terrible Coordination a talking to seems... really ineffective. They don't seem like they're internalizing the right lesson in any kind of useful way. Which is odd since the faculty have to be used to this. There's no way any of these are uncommon personality types on Anesidora, and they explicitly set up a team game where your "weakest" team member holds the whole team back. I guess one thing is they don't normally do this so early. It's meant to come after they've learned more, and possibly handled coordination on other tasks. It just came so early to this group because Snake got summoned.

Stylemys

Part of me just knows that the Superhumans at Large’s motto is probably something along the lines of “SALvation”.

Terrestrial_Biped

I think they dislike her attitude plenty, but since they chewed out the whole team she doesn't realize she's a focus of their ire. That, or she doesn't care, because no one has threatened to fail her out of the school and she achieved exactly what she set out to do in the race; she continued to hone her one on one combat skills.

Neil H

If only they had someone who could find missing items... ;)

Gregory

It wouldn't be Reinhard if the goal was to troll team No Idea How To Work Together, because neither Tuyet nor Reinhard were on that team.

Daniel

Why are Anesidoran families so large? Alden told Stuart that Earth wants there to be lots of Avowed babies. But what makes all the S-rank parents cooperate? Artificial wombs are great. But after birth, someone still has to spend years raising all those kids. What is the government or culture doing that makes elite Anesidorans invest in so many children?

Terrestrial_Biped

These people aren't very villainous yet, though. The worst this group did, so far as we know, was some theft. They're just trying to be free, for some value of the word "free". I'll admit I'm a bit concerned with how freely that Sway is using their powers. And the weapons could be for something less innocent than trying to survive their summonings; the potions could be for something other than medical treatment. But still. The boat outfitted with a Submerger reeks of Underground Railroad. I am not yet ready to judge these people harshly.

MeYouIt

Aaaargh, they always feel too short. I want to feast on more soup! Tftc!

AFK37115

maybe not bc they're enchanted, but this is a great idea! we might be able to tell if Alden can stop time, Alden can preserve the pieces of the broken object and after more than 4 min (Kon's time restoration limit) he can ask Kon to try to restore the object. I wonder if the reason it is 4 min now is related to the object's place/authority in the universe and if with time this place diminish/change when it breaks. but does an ordinary object have authority? I was under the impression Authority is also soul, but it could be a type of energy that exists everywhere in some form.

Gregory

And they're so close to having the perfect recruit, they'd love to have Samuel Alden Lhorn!

John Anastacio

Education and healthcare and almost everything kids need are state subsidized. i suspect babysitting is cheap, too. There have to be a lot of low ranks who are readily available to help with child care. Plus all the Rabbit skills to keep things clean and to freshen the air.

AFK37115

they can still message, but he probably won't answer, I wonder if he still can ET out or if it is only for drowning and emergencies

Gregory

"And no one will see us again until we are reborn into the light" is a very ominous phrase to use.

Stylemys

Mina would be an interesting foil to Mari. Two S-class globes that desperately wanted to become heroes so they could go back home. Except one got a highly marketable and useful class, while the other got the untradeable class that no one wants to let off the island. Maricel got to pick the path she wanted in the end, but Mina only had the one choice to escape with. If Mina wanted to sneak away, then a skill that erased her presence from the minds of the people around her would be a strategic choice too. It would also be an ace up her sleeve that she wouldn’t want Alden to reveal in case the school/gov took exception and countermeasures were put in place for the skill. Hence why she hesitated so long with Alden’s offer. Showing him her profile would <i>maybe</i> get her into the hero program, but it would <i>probably</i> cost her her plan B.

Terrestrial_Biped

Gravity is not truly affecting the object, but for Bearer to work the bearer must be burdened. The illusion of gravity is a part of the skill as much as the illusion of seeing and touching the object which has been removed from the stream of time, but it is arguably a more essential part, something that helps power the skill. I would be surprised but not shocked if Alden eventually finds a gravity toggle, just as he might find a burden visibility toggle, but there is no free lunch. Bearer, we've been told, is not a skill for cheaters. I can't see it allowing flight, and turning gravity off would certainly increase the authority drain by a significant amount.

Stylemys

The girl knows what she wants. And what she wants is NOT a well-rounded education.

WannaBeATree

Maybe they'll meet too when Alden goes to meet Jacob and agrees to let her use her powers on him so that their class gets another classmate after Winston is kicked out? She could spinn it as doing unofficial hero work by infiltrating these groups as a way to get admitted to school. But more realistically is that someone joining the hero course would want off Anesidora...

Sindri

So, I guess Maricel has Villain contacts now? Or possibly a nemesis, depending on which way the rest of the evening goes? Ah fuck I hope nobody from SaL ever connects Jacob's message to her to the patrol getting tipped off to her unprotected family back home... The fifth passenger is worrying me. 'The man who isn't there' powerset is always a pain to deal with, and several of the characters who I've seen using it in order works have been seriously disturbing. I do wonder if it's somebody we've seen or heard from before, or a completely new figure... for some reason I'm thinking of that girl from the entrance exams who was trying to get into the hero track as a Sway and then never got mentioned again, but that's unlikely to be related.

Anton Espholm

Exactly she achieved all her goals during the game, the rest of the team are losers because they wanted to win. Masha wanted to murder people, and she got to murder people, what more could she ask for?

Andrew Tobin

Instructor: “There’s no I in Team”, Marsha: “That’s why I don’t need a Team.”

Terrestrial_Biped

@John: What makes you think Artonans owned that submerger? Sounds like a thing that might come from an absurdly expensive, luxurious, magical yacht. Like the Libra. And the staff on the Libra gossiped about Orpheus stealing equipment in the past. My personal best guess is that the submerger was stolen from Aulia.

John Anastacio

I liked knowing why Jupiter was named that. I thought it was a reference to the movie Jupiter Rising, which somehow got made in their timeline. “Except they skipped Uranus and went straight to Neptune.” was funny. Wonder if Venus is a boy. I'm sure Venus makes it work either way.

Alibhai

Same here. I didn't even realize what was going on until everyone's comments talking about it as if it was a given.

Stylemys

The similar impression I was getting was that mommy and daddy probably already have a hero job lined up for her too. She doesn’t need to worry about doing well in school, picking up the “boring” hero skills, or being broadly appealing to potential host countries, because her being a hero is already a foregone conclusion. So she can blow off everything but the narrow subset of hero work that she finds fun. Essentially, she’s a magical trust fund baby that’s way out of touch with everyone else’s reality.

Sindri

I want Kibby to stop by for a visit some day and tell the *whole* story, in excruciating and possibly even exaggerated detail, while Alden keeps trying to downplay the horrors and insisting that any normal kid would have carried her across hundreds of miles of chaos-blasted wasteland on broken feet so this is totally not anything notable.

Obran

Kon’s talent makes me curious about its limits. If he brought a pizza to a party and everyone grabbed a slice, could he restore it back to being a whole pizza?

sebsebs

It's not just theft, to my understanding it's contraband akin to arms dealing since they're taking magic stuff that should be restricted to Anesidora or something. Since SAL is basically a terrorist organisation, it's uh a bit worrying but I agree that we don't have enough info on them yet

Sindri

lol I didn't even consider that there actually wasn't any fifth passenger. Plausible!

11037

The in-universe explanation would probably be that it's designed that way because in order to preserve something, the skill requires that Alden be burdened by it. The object having weight probably makes the skill stronger.

Slightly Morbid

My head canon is that Anesidora has got lots of fjords. Why create and design a landmass and not have fjords? Slartibartfast knew what he was doing. I need a visit to the fjords.

sebsebs

I think she's the wrong age to be Mina but I guess we should be careful about assumptions we make about Sways!

Terrestrial_Biped

The people who WANT to have kids are not be held back by poverty, insecurity about their futures, or inability to provide an excellent upbringing to their kids.

Twara Sandeep

Thanks for the chapter! Oooh I love the new plot point that made itself known with Superhumans At Large! I had a feeling Jacob would be involved with sketchy people, but I didn't think it'd be them. It's going to be even more interesting seeing the parallels of Jacob and Maricel as both globies being pulled out of their regular life into a world they weren't ready to be a part of and how they've taken different paths. Also, dang, asking Alden anything related to family orhis time before Anesidora is gonna be met with some level of awkwardness, either from Alden's side or the asker's side

Andrew Tobin

It’s a great call on the prediction it’s Mina. I still feel kind of bad for her, because it’s a heck of a place to be stuck in, having one of the skills no one wants. It’s a shame she couldn’t trust Alden, but that would have been a really tough thing to ask for.

FuriousDee

So the 5th passenger was a sway

Obran

Why would Alden prostitute himself to Lute?

SFGuru

Yeah - I was thinking they might get away too - it's obvious there are a lot of issues with the way Artonans/Avowed treat"ordinaries" and each other. The occasional snippet of Jacob going thru supervillain training while Alden and Maricel go thru superhero school would make a nice contrast. However - there have been a lot of flags over this weekend and the demon fight.

Stylemys

It was definitely stolen from Aulia. Jacob’s POV literally mentioned Orpheus Velra (her druggy son) as the source.

Sindri

If Kon restores a pizza, does he create new pizza to replace what has been lost, or does the pizza which has already been consumed get teleported out of people, un-digested, and re-assembled?

Sindri

Or Max! Except Max might only answer questions if doing so benefits him in some way.

Andrew Tobin

He totally should have bragged about Kibby, Sophie and Other Alden tho.

SFGuru

When he restored his grandpa's record player he was checking to make sure he had all the pieces - and he seems to think of his power as winding time backwards.

Lorevi Q

I think it's just a mixture of staying young and living longer. It's not clear how exactly stats influence aging but it's clear there's some benefit and the richest people can pay a healer for immortality. And if that immortality is spent in your 20's (physically) and you have a active sex life then many kids follow

Anton Espholm

I imagine that the consul incentivizes having children. Each child is essentially a lottery ticket, with the potential to payout with a world changing Avowed. Having more people with superpowers also makes earth a more influential resource planet, and could help with a potential future world coup if that is something the council wants.

Sindri

I wonder if bees can accurately measure a person's Authority.

Stylemys

I’m thinking that Alden will introduce the roommates in a video one day. Then Kibby will politely send them all a message introducing herself back in the response packets. Except she’ll casually drop some snippets of info that has them asking a whole lot of pertinent questions

Daniel

@John, good point about the low-rank babysitters. Celebrity heroes and S-ranks will skew wealthy. Someone has to watch the kids, but if you're rich it doesn't always have to be you.

Guus van der Borg

Huh, interesting. Jacob is very suspiciously specifically denying things about a fifth crate and fifth passenger. So I bet there IS one and it's one he'd rather not think about. So my guess is that the people that thought Hazel would blackmail Jacob into letting her come with him were right. ...Not sure how the story would go from there though. I'd have given it decent odds that Alden would get invited to the Palace of Unbreaking at some point and some Hazel drama would occur there. Not sure how Hazel loose in the world is going to be a plot thread that involves Alden.

Alibhai

Glad to see that almost everyone in the class is getting along well..... except for team vandy/ Marsha. Still, this setback is very valuable learning opportunity for them. We will see how effectively it is utilized. Haoyu is a kid after my own heart. Sow chaos, sit back and enjoy! Jacob is most definitely in over his head right now. This looks like a revolutionary group and revolutionaries are almost never non-violent.

Guus van der Borg

Yeah, I think it's especially weird they got singled out like that. You'd think all teams could use feedback. Singling them out like that is just going to foster resentment. To be fair though, if they were really going to rip into them, it was probably better to do it in private.

Andrew Tobin

Are we going to finally get back to the story of our favourite rabbit protagonist - Roman!

rutjumper

Googled atchara. Impressed https://www.hungryhuy.com/atchara-pickled-papaya/

Andrew Tobin

He does really seem to be the type to just nick something from Grandma’s yacht instead of putting in any effort to actual theft.

Stylemys

I think the talking to might have been an attempt to preempt some <i>unauthorized</i> fighting afterwards. Aside from Vandy, most of that team do not seem the type to admit their personal failings on the own. A whole lot of inflated egos took heavy blows, tempers were liable to get heated, and blame was ready to get thrown around viciously. These are hyper-competitive teenagers with self images being propped way up by literal magic. It would only take a few hotheaded people to escalate the situation enough to create aggressive, long-lasting grudges in the class. Unlike Lute’s old school, they might actually care about maintaining the basic minimum of class cohesion in the hero program.

Guus van der Borg

@Stylemys That last part is a little ironic, because I bet that a skill that would let you mentally 'erase' yourselves from people's presence is not something that Alden would object to. He'd probably happily help her. Then again, it might've been a more broader skill to 'mentally influence people' but that might be a bit too broad since it would seem that would be the entire class?

Andrew Tobin

Oh true - if you live so much longer, and the first generation of this island are still around, you probably want to win the lottery of having high ranked kids to kickstart the pyramid scheme of retirement.

Aetheo

In the strictest sense, sure, I guess they're a rebellion. But the cult fits better, because they're not rebelling against *a* government, they're rebelling against *all* of the established governments. Not that their goal is necessarily terrible, but... they've decided on a very impractical means of carrying it out. And that's fully leaving aside whether they want freedom or just for avowed to control everything. (I suspect the latter)

Michael

Nah, Marsha wouldn't bother showing up for that, since neither the civilian nor the tree are S-rank. She might show up, though, if another S-rank hero showed up to rescue the civilian and challenge THEM to fight. She might accidentally rescue the civilian during the fight by cutting down the tree, or kill them. Doesn't really matter to her.

Stylemys

Alternatively, they may have wanted to keep the team from catastrophically imploding afterwards. There’s a lot of inflated egos on that team that like viciously throwing around blame much more than admitting to it. Better to force it on ALL of them now than to let them fight it out and broodily milk grudges against each other for years. Teenage angst is annoying enough to deal with even under peaceful conditions, let alone when they all hate each other.

SFGuru

I think he is a boat wright - so I'm guessing that the boat sinks, all the crew and 3 passengers are rescued/dead except for Jacob and he builds a boat from some wreckage and gets away - with twice as much food as he needs for some reason...

fonn

Imp is a character from Worm with antimemetic powers. since theyre both well-known superpower web serials, i assumed it was reference most of the audience would get

Stylemys

Haoyu was trolling his own team too. Unless you think Alden <i>wanted</i> to sit next to Winston either. Or Jeffy next to Marsha.

AL

I wonder if anesidorians use the artificial wombs any or they do it naturally like alis'arth because the natural way might increase authority quality i suppose?

AL

I think Marsha is just hyperfixated. Like adhd levels of fixated. The talk seems to have worked a bit on Winston enough to make him ashamed or that's just his defeat I guess?

AL

Talk to max when he's not around the rest of the team you mean

SFGuru

Given how Tuyet targeted Alden in the first obstacle run I think her team probably told her to repeatedly murder one of the saner/more useful un-named A ranks on team Vandy/Marsha.

AL

They even covered for it by saying family emergency

Stylemys

So all his classmates were taken aback by Alden mentioning his funeral. However, I have to assume his former-hero teachers likely zoomed in more on Alden casually saying that his 15~16 year old friend had run away from home like <i>6+ months ago</i> and was still not home yet. There’s no way at least one of them won’t be at least looking Boe up.

AL

I don't think so. Mina sounded like island born to me and she wouldn't be trying to join a hero school if she would be wanting to leave the island that way I think

Gregory

Hmm, Finlay saying he has more visual processing than Winston is interesting. Based on what the Systems have said to Alden I assumed the main gate for processing increases was time, since it has limits on how fast it modifies human minds and an S rank mind is just as human as an F rank initially. Not sure how to reconcile this. I also think there's good odds that Agility and Speed brutes have some trait or skill that cheats at perception speeds, because Finlay beat Alden faster than Alden could notice and that feels like more than a few points of processing.

Daniel

Not a scolding. Just a headsup that the instructors saw what they did and were going to be working with them on it in coming weeks. Something to make them recommitted instead of bitter.

Michael

Why would the CNH busses be in a "classical yellow school bus style" if those busses are only used in North America, or second-hand in some Central and South American countries? Not to mention that the students live in dorms on campus, so busses are mostly used for class trips etc instead of daily commutes. Additionally, the school has money for comfortable busses.

Stylemys

Skipping Uranus was lazy and uninspired. Jupiter’s parents could have just gone with Caelus, the Roman version of the Greek’s Uranus. Or even just Ouranos, which is an alternative way to write the Greek patron diety.

Michael

Ah, but does he need all the pieces, or does that just make it less difficult/cheaper for him to restore something?

SFGuru

I think it's telling that Marsha and Winston were left sitting next to each other on the bus. The implication is that all their other team members have a least one person who likes them.

Gregory

It's been repeatedly mentioned that heroes are partly there to put on a show. Winston understands this too well and Marsha not nearly enough. A city is not going to be happy with a hero who is consistently rude, who ignores threats she thinks are beneath her, and who is clearly just trying to get in a fight with whomever.

Stylemys

If one of the island’s purposes really was to breed more Avowed, the Artonans and high council might be putting their thumb on the cultural scales too. Doing everything they can to subtly encourage big families and population growth. The faster they multiply, the sooner their magical caste system can burst beyond the island borders and take over the planet.

Alibhai

Could be just the difference of pure raw foundation points between a A rank and an S rank. It's also possible that Winston used few of his points for appeal? I doubt it tho. As it was mentioned, superhero schools frown upon applicants using points on appeal. I doubt he would've jeopardized his chances of getting in the course.

Michael

I don't think the families of uniformly high-rank students of THE elite high school are necessarily the standard for all Anisodoran families. Most of them come from high-rank or even hero parents, which means rich parents, in an already rich society. That includes all of the already mentioned benefits. The average number of children for lower ranks might still be higher than the average for families outside of Anisodora, due to the already mentioned factors, but I doubt they are as high as for high-rank parents. On another note, I bet there are even specific rabbit skills for rabbit nannies. If I remember correctly, Artonans often have large families, which means someone likely designed a rabbit skill to help out with raising them. Why wouldn't such a skill be sought after by other, rich Avowed.

Stylemys

I’m actually not super concerned about the Sway just yet. So far, they only seem to be erasing short-term memories of their presence, which feels like a stealth skill in the vein of invisibility. It’s creepy and potentially problematic in A LOT of ways, but if the only intention is to “eliminate” witnesses to their escape who could sell them out if caught, then I’m not overly concerned. Admittedly, there are some big IFs there.

Gregory

I mean, Alden, as a B rank rabbit with a low foundation skill, had enough points to max out processing for like 6 months. It was what, 2 points? I can't imagine any A rank being unable to spare 2 points.

Ano Ano

Earth in general wants more super powered people, so there are various ways in which having babies is encouraged and made easier on Anesidora.

Terrestrial_Biped

@Stylemys: Surely all applicants share their official profiles with the school as part of the application process, though, long before they reach the powers testing stage. Any "secret" power she might have would already be out.

Stylemys

But a native would also know to NOT take a problematic Sway skills. Plus Maricel wanted to leave the island the Jacob way originally, but she still tried (and succeeded) to join hero school.

AL

Meh they could have have gone with Caelus which is the Roman equivalent I guess? It doesn't sound as bad but maybe it had to be greek for some reason. Edit: noticed the comment was 20min quicker than me yet I didn't see it for some reason.

Michael

I think it was a good call to skip it. Neither a different spelling nor giving one child a Roman name instead of the Greek one like their siblings would have prevented that. The child is the one who would have suffered from bullying either way. I think too many parents don't take that into account when naming their children in unique and special ways.

AL

I was thinking Ascendance of a Bookworm when I wrote that reply. Nobles try and nurture their newborn in the womb with their magic to make it as strong as possible.

Narf

I'm just happy that Maricel is fine, and that she wasn't removed from class for something major. I don't think it is going to have repercussions for her that she didn't go tell on Jacob instantly. He had already been known to try to escape in the first place, so it's not even like she really would have provided new information if she went to someone with a nebulous "he's still looking for a way out". The moment she learned of a specific escape attempt, she went to a teacher. They really couldn't ask for more from her. Alden, wtf are you doing mentioning Boe in front of your teachers and telling everyone that there was a teenager same age as you who ran away from home more than half a year ago and who still isn't home?! What do you expect the reaction of a teacher and superhero to be there?! I'd be surprise if none of them started to look into Boe's case now. His classmates might have latched more unto the "funeral" part, but that won't be the same for the teachers. Finally, Haoyu is a monster, and I love him. That's all.

Anonymous

So, immediately following a pay-off chapter, Sleyca tees us up right away for a pivot/change in tone, dusts off those Chekov guns and aims them menacingly in all sorts of directions, all the while engaging in some beautiful worldbuilding! Thoughts: 1. “Instructor Klein had asked team Vandy/Marsha to stay behind after class instead of heading to the locker rooms with everyone else”: time for a grilling from the instructors. Likely they haven’t seen that level of in-fighting before given most obstacle runs are done much later in the year once students have had time to get more mature/understanding about different powers. 2. “Pushing it all the way is for getting to the fight in the first place, isn’t it? Or when you’re outmatched”: Alden has of course pushed it all the way before in a race, but not to a fight, but carrying Kibby on his back to try and get to safety, fighting off chaos in a show of bravery none of these children could really properly comprehend. 3. “Do you like Arielle?” Haoyu asked. “She’s friends with my parents.”: easy to forget Haoyu’s the son of some very big dogs, very likely Alden’s in to some of the top flight heroes before too long. 4. “Some Brutes think speedsters taking short range teleportation is unBrutely”: short range teleportation for brute speedsters! Very cool. And very magical for a class that supposedly just runs fast. 5. “They all slack off on their training when they get old if you ask me”: I wonder if that’s a common problem? Perhaps it seems a bit pointless once you can lift 100 metric tonnes, trying to push to be able to lift 150. How often is that really relevant? So we see one of the real issues with the avowed system where they’re not really called on to fight demons the size of moons – over-specialisation. Note Alden’s skill is prized for its versatility. 6. “Going hyperbolic”: nice verbing of the hyperbole description! 7. “he spent a lot of time poking things throughout the day and psychically analyzing their recent history”: this skill of Kon’s is going to become relevant within a few chapters, mark my words. Wonder what he’ll read…something revealing of Alden’s? His learning cushion maybe? 8. “Winston was nowhere to be found”: as others have said, perhaps extra held behind for an extra grilling about his extra naughty behaviour? 9. “The wind that had been blowing grit around the track earlier hadn’t let up any, and there was a distant grumble of thunder”: storm on the horizon…dum dum dumm…this escape attempt isn’t going to go well. 10. ““I saved a seat for Mehdi!” Heloísa called from near the front of the bus. Everly giggled”: the girls have been chatting about how Heloisa fancies Mehdi, which I’ve thought is likely based on the very funny competitive tension they have going on. 11. “But unlike the rest of their team, Marsha seemed barely bothered by the scolding they’d received”: she’s set on her course – Marsha will need more than a stern talking to by teachers to persuade her that her attitude is wrong and unhelpful in the long run. Like Haoyu, perhaps the daughter of some big dog heroes? 12. “Bright red lips smiled, and the words “still kissable” appeared beneath her chin”: nice use of a commercial to world build. Here, the commercialisation of heroes, where beauty and money is really more important than saving lives. 13. “Then the glitzy commercial faded to be replaced by images of children studying in a language academy....Make sure your children can talk to the world”: on theme for this chapter. The undercurrent running throughout Anesidoran life is that the crème-de-la-crème escape the island to live in the “real world” and everything should be aiming towards that. 14. ““He’s going in a boat”: called it! Jacob making his bid for freedom was clearly set up. 15. “Plus there’s always ETing”: I wonder if ETing works underwater? Perhaps if they go out of range of what the System considers “Anesidora” it won’t work… 16. “He retired from being an electrician and bought a pub. Loses loads of money on it and drives my mum crazy, but he says it’s his dream.”: hat off to Sleyca for using the proper British spelling of “mum”! Though perhaps a Scot with Finley’s strong accent would be more likely to say “mam” – just a thought in case worth changing Sleyca! 17. “We didn’t have a single superhuman incident with anyone over C-rank”: hinted at but now explicitly stated – superhero teams are generally a bit fluffy and pointless, massively overlevelled Anesidorans vs weak globies. 18. “Artificial wombs are one of the most contentious areas remaining these days. Which is a bit odd considering they were almost universally praised when the Contract was first being hammered out”: presumably people originally anticipated them being used to help couples who couldn’t conceive naturally, but now they’re being used by the uber wealthy to breed uber mensch. 19. “Marsha was watching Shrike spin a knife”: I mean, you can’t fault her dedication to considering how to fight other S’s – she did seem to admire his knife controlling abilities! 20. “Winston was picking at his food and avoiding everyone’s eyes like he’d suffered a terrible humiliation instead of a combat death in the gym”: Alden, my friend, the combat death was a terrible humiliation. If not in your eyes, definitely in most of the students. 21. “Dare I hope he’ll be less of a pain moving forward?”: hmmm….my bet is no. He’s too good of a foil to be redeemed quite yet I think. 22. “Jeffy, who was delivering unnecessarily obscure hints about his own home….grown up in a house with grandparents and an uncle”: does he just think that growing up on a farm was very embarrassing? Or is it perhaps something like growing up in the backwoods of Appalachia, not going to school, roasting squirrels over a fire type survivalist commune? And sounds like poor Jeffy may be an orphan just like Alden – expect this will come up sooner or later. 23. “Unlike Marion, most of the faculty present had been born off the island”: I suspect the people who want to teach tend to be globies as they are less obsessed with getting off the island (and anyway have visitation visas) than locals. Marion only here of course because he is a Sway and has to be, because he can’t get a job off island. 24. “the number of people mentioning tons of siblings was more than he would have expected from a cross-section of peers back home”: hinted at before, but a nice bit of colour here. Because people are young and beautiful forever? Because these are the elite and have loads of money to spend on kids? Because you’re more powerful with a family network behind you in a new city state where the vested interests are only a couple of generations old? Because the Artonans incentive it with stipends and god knows what else? Lots of reasons to breed like (ahem) rabbits… 25. “They were both aesthetically gifted”: what a brilliantly Aldenish way of describing people as handsome lol. 26. “His name’s Boe. I’m sure he’ll come visit eventually”: this chat to remind us of Boe makes me think he’ll resurface from catspace within a few chapters. 27. “He ran away after my funeral….Haoyu blinked. Lexi frowned. Kon squinted at him”: haha, Alden dropping one of his patented trauma bombs in his typically blithe manner! 28. “Everything got worse when you left intake, not better as people kept promising him”: oooh boy. A lot of darkness in Anesidora just beneath the surface. Alden’s time has been pretty charmed, but what is it like for a C-rank, with no friends, no plans, no family – sent to a random school in the middle of nowhere? Sleyca is just brilliant and reminding us of undercurrents beneath the generally upbeat and positive surface that has been Alden’s perspective of life on Anesidora since Thegund. 29. “The dinette furniture had been removed to make room for something particularly large wrapped in a tarp”: bomb? Magical gee-gaw? Giant monster? Who knows! But will become relevant in the inevitable disaster no doubt. 30. “the boat was filled with magical equipment, spell ingredients, cases that Jacob was sure held weapons—all things that were difficult or expensive for people to obtain off Anesidora”: lots of illegal activity, smuggling, potential abuse for magic outside of a city state designed to keep control of such things. 31. “The fifth was…there was no fifth”: as others have said…definitely a Sway with a memory modification ability. Others have suggested Mina, the girl from the entrance exam who needed a partner (she had a hidden ability she didn’t want to show Alden, maybe this was it?) or perhaps a character we haven’t seen before, introduced to show us the darker side of Swaying. Sways themselves have been oddly absent for most of the story – there was Mina, Instructor Marion (who’s abilities we don’t know yet, but wasn’t able to get an off-island job...) and B-rank Francis (mostly played for comic relief so far – but deliberately so to put people at ease), but no students in Alden’s class that we know of. You can instantly sense from this ominous intro that there is a reason why people don’t like Sways – such potential for abuse…and with it being mostly a choice, does make you wonder about the type of person who would choose to affect others minds like that… 32. “The Submerger had a place of honor on the floor just beside the captain”: stolen by Orpheus from the Libra (remember the conversation between the staff about him stealing things), one of Aulia’s escape options no doubt. She has made sure she has a way off the island despite being a member of the high counsel. Do as I say not as I do. 33. “We will fade from Anesidora like shadows. And no one will see us again until we are reborn into the light": eeeesh. SAL sound pretttttyyy culty ….previously only mentioned by Haoyu re. the friend wearing the same hat as someone in SAL comment in a much lighter tone. It’s absolutely the calm before the storm, I expect a serious bit of adventure and peril to kick off asap!

Terrestrial_Biped

We DON'T know that SaL is "basically a terrorist organization". I'm sure their detractors are happy to describe them as basically terrorists, but what we've seen so far supports the idea that they're an outlawed underground activist group dedicated to the rights and wellbeing of unregistered Avowed almost equally well. And my actual guess is that they're a mix; some members are terrorists, but many - probably most - are closer to people trying to survive, trying to hold the tatters of their lives together, trying to make things a little less shitty for other people like them. Like I said, the weapons do worry me. But Avowed get summoned. They are all potential combatants, whether they want to be or not. They have excellent reason to want access to combat equipment that can save their lives and the lives of others.

Stylemys

But at what point do they share them? If I recall right, they haven’t been making her redo the rest of the admissions process each time she’s come back. If Mina has had time to level up since then, she’d have invested the new skill into her escape, which would not have been on her original admissions profile. Think about it- Mina repeatedly tries to go to hero school to get out the “right way”, but the school imposes a special rule that she has to get a fellow competitor to let her use her Sway-ness on them. So she tries but repeatedly strikes out month after month. However, she’s still motivated and training on her own time. When the level up finally comes after hundreds of other students not even considering her offer, what should she do? Invest in a hero-appropriate skill, or her plan B escape plan? Luckily, a Sway stealth skill kinda does both and she already got through the first 3 admission phases so she doesn’t need to update her info. Instead she keeps busing herself to the hero program’s test days until FINALLY someone gives her the time of day. But “cute faces” Alden wants to see her FULL profile and she has no good argument for why not. That stealth skill is most effective for escape if no one knows about it. If she gives away the secret and doesn’t make the program, then she’s way worse off. She doesn’t know him and he might blab it. So she freezes up for a full minute until they force her decision and she wimps out. After all, she’s failed over and over so many time already and how different could this time really have gone?

Michael

Wasn't it confirmed that she left Earth already? Ch. 123: “You banished Hazel from the planet, so I guess you deserve more of my company.”

Terrestrial_Biped

I'm uncomfortable with jumping straight to calling the boat folks villains. The escapees just want out. We haven't heard of them doing any crimes worse than theft. They want freedom, for some value of the word free. I admit the Sway is very free with their powers and that worries me. And certainly those supplies they bought, borrowed, or stole could be used to make war as much as they could be used for survival. But I see in them a warped reflection of the Underground Railroad, and I have to give them a chance.

Guus van der Borg

Well, I took that with a grain of salt. The Velra spin machine is running overtime right now, after all.

WannaBeATree

So now we know how people perceive the world when they are swayed . . . which does give us a glips of the end-game of this novel. Impressive set-up by Sleyca.

Dun

> Max’s expression was completely unbothered and pleasant because he was a scary bastard, Anybody else shocked to read that Max is scary? Not the impression I got.

John Anastacio

Daniel: I was thinking of how Anesidorans don't need jobs to live, so I imagine a lot of low ranks don't use their class professionally but instead do child care either for pay or as part of some kind of community thing. Brutes especially seem suited for child care, and Anesidora must have lots of low rank Brutes with plenty of free time on their hands.

FuriousDee

Maybe people can adjust to the points at different speeds independent of rank

Andrew Tobin

Yeah, but Cly made it thru and her sway powers sound pretty hardcore, and Francis is in. Really, it’d be pretty hard for these first few sways to make it thru, when they’re told how feared they are. Who knows.

WannaBeATree

Remember Max during the Interview for school acceptance saying Alden is scary because he is a rabbit? I think Alden is starting to get it.

Markus

Alden think Max is scary because Max is observant.

Andrew Simpson

Yo Sleyca hinting at a fifth memetically cloaked passenger on board givin' me goosebumps. That's the kind of shit I'm here for.

Anonymous

thx for the chapter hope we get 8 chapters of jeffy backstory

Andrew Simpson

Speedster processing and reaction during super speed probably works differently than normal mental processing speed increases, otherwise they would be just walking around with the same level of processing speed they need to use to react to stuff in microseconds while running real fast, which would be impossible overstimulating/exhausting. Also it would make them super op if they were just thinking in super speed all the time.

Sindri

If all they were doing was escaping, helping others to escape, even smuggling medicine to those who need it, I would be inclined to call them heroic. But "our brothers in the fight" is a red flag, "Superhumans at Large" is not a name for a group of people who want to just live their lives in peace, and "reborn into the light" is very definitely cult shit.

Sesharan

In addition to some of the other excellent points people have made, it’s worth keeping in mind that the kids in this class are not a representative sample. Their parents represent the people who are A) high-ranking and B) interested in having kids in the first place.

Andrew Tobin

You’d think Alis-art’h would want that artificial womb, having multiple multiples!

Andrew Tobin

Oooh, to back out your theory then - if they couldn’t get her a teleport, she could have some magical device that hides her, and it could be Hazel. I doubt it though, because it makes far more sense that the family has the power to get her off-planet, even if half the Velra myth is bs.

Aspiring Moth

mehdi sat with kon on the bus even after heliosa saved a seat for him. how many times is heliosa going to get rejected by him

Curtis

I think the problem was with increasing mental processing in general. Boosting the visual processing substat is probably fine. There's also Finlays other stats to consider. Dexterity/Agility probably include generic nervous system upgrades, Stamina makes his whole body more efficient and the Formation substats make him significantly more resilient. Together this might make his body better able to handle more mental processing.

Andrew Tobin

Alden did say he’d found him though, and he’s coming home. It would be a nice world to think a teacher would flag for a check in and follow up, and recommend some help with the mental effects of grief and loss.

AFK37115

he is scary in the sense that he is impressive at making convincing masks and doing whatever he needs to to get where he wants. he is admirable, honestly, many characters are MC material for different reasons, Max, Maricel, Jeffy, Lexi, Lute, Haoyu...

Michael Blue

I did not guess a lot of what happened this chapter. I imagined that the dinner was going to be significantly more contentious than it was. I also imagined that Maricel was much more personally affected by the text she received than she was. That said, I am pretty confident in my prediction that Winston will not become less of an asshole as a result of losing to Alden.

Cyrus McEnnis

I would think it more likely that they'd flag it for Alden's counselor rather than go looking him up themselves. Also, I find it hard to imagine someone from Point Nemo with everything we've seen of Anesidoran culture feeling obligated to check on the friend of a student in Chicago. I mean, how often would a teacher in, say, Spain check in on a student's friend in New Zealand?

BoxQueen

While I am surprise we got to see a new point of view, that's some stranger danger alert if I ever seen one. I mean, if it works sure but I don't believe that they had signed up for. Are they even returning to their families? That last sentence gives really bad vibes... Too bad Uranus stuck for a planet's name. It's weird how all the planet's name other than Uranus are Roman Gods names but they didn't the planet Caelus, but Uranus instead. That is the one of the annoying things ancient people though was good but didn't age well.

JustMe

Yes, damn the ancient Greeks and Romans for not anticipating the modern English language

Andrew Tobin

Fingers crossed someone finds Boe and drags him to Anesidora against his will. Given how he felt about it, it would be the best present he’s ever gotten. Hell, I wish he could just negotiate to have his parents come with - I’m pretty sure they’d have a pretty comfortable existence.

Andrew Tobin

I’m reading scary as smart, composed, basically he knew how this would turn out and getting a talking to is a reasonable expectation.

Stylemys

Alden isn’t a typical student though. He’s their golden goose. They literally rigged the psychological evaluation part of admissions to assure he passed. The principal hovers over him when he gets repeated killed to make sure he’s not being harassed. After losing his parents and found-godmother, he’s got like three “family” members left, one of which is a teenage runaway in <b>Chicago</b>. They need Alden to stay stable long enough to show off. Having his friend’s corpse show up in a gutter would be detrimental to that. Even if Alden says Boe is “okay”, that’s coming from teenager that survived multiple traumatic events whose definition of okay is likely very skewed.

David Bailey

Given there seems to be a cap on how much processing you can take per level, and it's pretty small, Finlay may have more than Winston because Winston's an idiot who just wants to go as fast as possible.

Andrew Tobin

Jeffy was raised in a place that may or may not have had several people with mohawks, and when he first received his powers he tested them on a trac-a really big truck.

John Anastacio

12. Yeah I liked the commercials. I believe this could be the first chapter that showed what commercials are like in Anesidora. Good worldbuilding. 16. Just fyi, Finlay has used the word mum before when he described the sandbag Lexi was flinging around, 'like it insulted his mum'.

Tori, Writher #1 Fan

I thought it was an absent Maricel the first time, and a 5th passenger after the 2nd mention, but still didn't think sway. A "notice me not" ability sounds useful for a number of classes. I can see people's point that it's sway-like but it's definitely not a given.

YeetimusMaximus

Jacob escaping via fanatic/terrorist smuggling boat was not on my bingo card but was a welcome surprise

McIntosh Ewell

@Gregory We don't know what the conversation was, but I doubt it was a dressing down. The instructors seem to really value individualism and self exploration. Instead of telling them how horrible they were doing, I imagine it more along the lines of "what were you trying to achieve with this specific action?" and bringing up some of the more egregious examples of poor coordination/decision making. Most important for future superheroes is the ability to think and adapt. Team Vandy/Marsha seems to be having the hardest time learning from their mistakes. I think the socratic method is the most likely tool the instructors would be using to help this team identify their shortcomings and how they should proceed going forward. After all, this isn't a bootcamp, and the kids aren't being trained to be soldiers.

John Anastacio

Terrestrial - It hadn't occurred to me that Orpheus stole it from the Libra. I should have thought of that. I figured he stole it from the Palace during one of his summons. Neil - Roman might have a maximum distance for his Locate Lost Object skill, at its current level.

McIntosh Ewell

As Alden has discovered, perception is a pretty important component of a skills effectiveness. It could be that Kon is being limited by his belief that he needs all the pieces of a broken thing to reconstitute it. Too bad Alden's tattoo prevents him from giving in depth lessons on Authority. He's probably the most knowledgeable human on the subject

McIntosh Ewell

Maybe if she loses to someone of a lower rank, or a group of lower ranks using teamwork to defeat her

Endaris

It's probably a convenience really. Imagine he preserved the object's in-universe position rather than its position relative to earth. That would be some fast projectile.

Tori, Writher #1 Fan

7. My first thought was also the learning cushion! But Alden has so many interesting objects that I'd love to know what Kon's skill tells him about, if he could manage to get his hands on them. The opposite stone, the leaf from the knight-eating tree, Joe's ring, a tiny fragment of the primary's son...

Bob Ross

Clever of Marsha to start removing her shoes, she must've realized Instruction was coming!

Tori, Writher #1 Fan

Probably they were all set to name it Caelus, and then some oracle foretold a vision "in the fuuutuuure, the naaame for the 7th planet shall not aaaage welllll," and they decided to buck the naming convention and go with Uranus just to be safe

BoxQueen

Nah, I looked it up after I made my opinion. A German guy wanted to name it Uranos, Greek god because Latin reasons but for some reason, the name was Ouranos until mid-1800. It was new planet discovery and I guess someone was like, 'hey, new naming scheme with Greek gods in Latin.' Another dude found Neptune and just named it Neptune because it is a blue planet.

Al

I wonder if she even wants to be a superhero. We know graduates of this program end up in a lot more careers than "go live in a city and fight super crime there." Maybe she wants to do gladiatorial / sport combat and this is just the best combat program available.

Alexander Dupree

Wait the unrepentant bully with a superiority complex which rivals Prince Humperdinck’s didn’t take his lesson to heart? How could you say that?

TexNox

The other option for the fifth member of the boat was supposed to be Marcel and he's just bitterly thinking "there was no fifth" because she's let him down when he thought he had an ally.

TexNox

I still love the idea that Boe's parents are both unregistered morners. That's why they're so useless and why Boe was so certain that the morner class was a failure because all the do is "get high off their own skills".

Rui Lourenço

That has been Alden's take from the start. Remember when Max won duels by baiting people into killing him? He's that type of scary. Absolute disregard for pain or suffering in pursuit of his goals.

Flying Goat

If you just had a self-preservation skill, you could have preserved instead of persevering.

Rui Lourenço

It comes down to what Alden discovered in the previous chapter. Foundation points aren't just physical changes but based on Authority. Physically Finlay might have just as much perception as Winston but he might have Bound Authority letting him perceive time slower.

Flying Goat

I had thought it might be about his death while trying to escape (which they might have let her out for, if she were a known friend of his).

John Anastacio

Torsten said, "Most of you are thinking about careers that will lead you off the island..." Let us focus on the word 'most'. We know Alden has ambitions that do not readily lend themselves to actual superhero work. It'll be difficult enough convincing the Artonan knights and wizard factions to let him live and to accept him as a knight. Getting the populace and governments of Earth to do the same might be even harder, especially if Knight Alden gets the equivalent of diplomatic carte blanche and can go anywhere on Earth he pleases, since Earth is under Contract as a resource world. I'm not aware Torsten knows this. Who else besides Alden is openly or secretly thinking about careers that will not lead them off the island? I really thought Alden was the sole exception in their class. Does ballet security guard Lexi count? I don't think he does.

DonMc

When I read it, I was thinking Hazel using a 'Not here' word chain. Maybe she didn't like her grandmother's idea for her to flee and be an unpaid wordchain monk. The problem with that is how would Hazel no any SAL members.

Anonymous

One of the questions I was most interested in got hinted at. It appears from foxbolts comment that fighting villians is incredibly rare. A whole superhero in berlin team never fighting anything above a C makes sense only in a fairly stable world. It's also really interesting that most teachers are not anseidoran natives. this might be due to the fact that there were just way less a generation back or due to globies more often becoming succesful heroes.

Alibhai

I don't think Alden is going to receive any push back from the Artorian authorities as he is friends with some big players but I agree on the earth government part. Torsten might have just thrown out a general statement based on previous trends. He might not actually know anyone specific with a different plans.

Enkelados

Quick question: are there already superhuman dictatorships somewhere on the world? Or does anesidora stop them?

Maddy Weller

This was a great chapter! I loved Alden’s continued awkwardness. I wish he had gotten to talk about best little sister Kibby, but the whole funeral thing was also really funny. Probably better at making him not stand out even more, in reference to being best friends with an Artonan. I loved Kon designing a Jazz funeral for Lexi, who is just refusing to participate all together with the foolishness of his classmates XD

Kettle

Torsten: “You guys need to work as a team.” Marsha: You tell them! Vandy ruined our whole strategy! These people need to shape up.

Alibhai

I don't think it's possible considering all of them are cooped up on a single island there are no known super human societies. There might be small movements/societies but there are no recognized governments so to say

Enkelados

But they weren't always cooped up there, and are only really forced by the governor go there. I wouldn't be surprised that in places with little governmental oversight they could have seized power. And only other supers could have stopped them.

MeanOldMathMan

Any chance the fifth that isn't on the boat is a particular chainer fleeing a rabbit murder investigation? Word chains are flexible. Stack the other half of an attention-drawing one enough...

Alibhai

She might just enjoy messing with him. Alternatively it might also be something romantic.... Heliosa might also be the "I can fix him or enjoy trying type of girl".

Zenopath (AEV)

That's clever. It wouldn't even have to be any sort of magic. The POV character, the Wright whose name I've forgotten, has such a strong dislike of Hazel that he might just be in denial about the fact that she's there, lol. We are being presented with a sulky teen's mental stream of conscious, it could be that he's just trying to pretend she didn't force him to take her with him.

GryphonKnight

Stuart mentioned Avowed governments are banned by the Contract until enough Avowed population to petition new terms for the Contract Probably still Cult leaders, and Warlords, for small groups since SAL seems to operate without the Contract snitching 🔲

AnthraxRipple

Calling it now, Jeffy was raised in a Juggalo commune.

Bob Ross

“Don’t just tell everyone on the island our parents’ reproductive plans.” Kon rolled his eyes. “There’s going to be a whole new person with our last name. What are we supposed to do? Pretend they found a baby growing on a tree?” “That’s not the poin—” Easy to overlook, but Lexi isn't exaggerating. Anything said in a public space anywhere on the island, heck maybe anywhere on earth is as good as public information for those willing to pay for it. Lexi isn't just saying don't tell our classmates, he's saying don't share info that doesn't belong to you because otherwise it's gonna belong to everyone.

PatienceHoney

I get where you are coming from Super, but I think there's something special about being in the moment and sharing this creation with all these fans. I am wondering if down the line this will be a Woodstock event, where this book/series will get so noticed, and we can all be like, "I was there..."

Kettle

Vandy: “Maricel, what were you and Alden talking about?” Maricel freezes. Tuyet: “Be careful Mari. I saw Lucille sneaking glances at him on the bus.” Vandy: “Don’t tease her Tuyet. Maricel said she doesn’t like him. Right Maricel. Right?”

Leaf

I actually hope they get away

John Scott

I love the idea, but I’m pretty sure Hazel was off the island that night, and since this is a Friday, has been for a week

Luck

I got the impression that it was a sway. Hazel should already be on another planet.

Anonymous

If they learned how Alden ran until his feet literally bled while the rest of him was just as broken, even Marsha might respect him.

QY

I love how mohawks are the defining (?) characteristic of Jeffy's family

Anonymous

Sounds like Jacob is being assimilated into a cult full of mind-controlled followers.

Charlie

Alden learned a new facet of his skill and rank jumped to kill Winston. He's definitely this week's MVP. The writing of the Maricel and Alden reminded me that it's very funny that Alden seems like he just walks through the world oblivious to the fact that for a non-insignificant number of very powerful teenage girls he's an object of abstract lust.

Anonymous

@Guus it'll tend to be the same thing in the late stages too when most of humanity doesn't actually care about Avowed but the cult begins saying "You've been brainwashed into accepting the aliens!!! We'll free you! BY KILLING YOU!!!" and stuff like that.

Anonymous

Not sure how many noticed, but there was a chapter where some random dude delivered drugs to a rich person and a girl upset the dude by taking photos of him. That dude was Jacob!

Anonymous

@AL I bet her issue is simply one that the instructors know they can't fix with a quick pep talk. The flaw in the system is that ranks blatantly give people proof that they're better than others, and if people take for granted that higher ranks are the only ones that matter... well, it's not so easy to convince them otherwise without a proper opportunity and push. The gym class was evidently not that needed push. Until that happens, Marsha will be largely dismissive of any reasonable advice anyone tries giving her. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped after all.

Anonymous

Not sure if anyone remembers it, but there was a chapter where some delivery guy traded drugs to a rich guy for a submerger and a girl took photos of him. It turns out that delivery guy was Jacob... I was wondering what the point of that scene had been, and now it's been revealed!

CentaureHeart

Weirdly a mohawk for an Aqua Brute seems pretty cool. Like a human fin made of hair. *Jaws soundtrack*

Anonymous

Jacob's been a fairly regular presence throughout the Anesidoran arcs. Rarely centre stage, but brought up often. The Wright in intake who's on the verge of being locked down (67). He messaged Maricel in 93 (under the alias, J). He acquires the Submerger from Orpheus Velra in 101 (in exchange for drugs). He's close enough to Hazel Velra that when Alden sees them, he thinks they're dating (120). Potentially, she's bullied him into attending the party (to fend off matchmaking attempts? Now that she's not the future of the Velra clan, it's possible that Aulia's getting... dynastic. We saw her try to set Hazel up with Alden, but that might be part of a bigger pattern), blackmailing him for the drug deal that an unknown female Velra watched him make. I think it's probably fair to assume that both he and Superhumans At Large will be mentioned again. I think it's also fair to say that the guy who has multiple Velras in his life and is finding the stars aligning and everything coming easier to him than he'd imagined might have someone manipulating things. He's involved in big-picture politics, even if he doesn't see it. Entirely aside, there's a Sway on the boat, right? You can see why they'd want to escape Anesidora.

Anonymous

@GryphonKnight isn't Anesidora an Avowed government though?

Guus van der Borg

I'm actually somewhat surprised the Anesidorans hadn't heard about his funeral. Wasn't Alden the first ever Rabbit 'death' on assignment? You'd think that would get decent media coverage on Anesidora

Zenopath (AEV)

It could be Hazel on that boat. Jacob's stream of consciousness could just be presenting his sulky reaction to Hazel forcing him to take her with him. "Nope, I'm going to pretend she doesn't exist," type mentality.

Michael

Hiding her on Earth wouldn't really be in Aulia's best interest while having her serve at the Palace is doubly beneficial for her: 1. no access to (social) media or subject to other observation and out of reach for any Anisodora law enforcement; 2. increases favor with the Palace for lending them her talented granddaughter. And I can't imagine the Palace not paying for the teleport or using an (extended) summons for it., they'll get a lot of milage out of Hazel.

Apeoflight

I can definitely see how some members of Superhumans at Large might be under the impression that Chaos is not a problem and so Matadero is actually some sort of evil research facility or prison and that blowing it up won't have consequences and oh look earth has an actual chaos problem now.

Anonymous

I think it's just more evidence that jeffy is from a very rural place and is embarrassed

Guus van der Borg

Oh yeah, the theory of Hazel escaping with Jacob was never meant to be Aulia supported. But it seems possible that when Hazel heard that Aulia basically wanted to hide her away that she'd decide she's too important for that and make a run for it. I considered it unlikely, but the mysterious fifth person made me think of the theory. And then I read the comments and decided that it was still unlikely and the mysterious person being a Sway is much more likely.

Bob Ross

That makes me wonder what media in general looks like on Anesidora. We haven't really seen any journalists, except maybe when the Velra dirty laundry started coming out, presumably someone was doing journalistic legwork.

Guus van der Borg

I'm guessing that, since most people are running around with systems in their brain, it is mostly like the different internet media outlets we have today. Loooots of clickbaity stuff with no real substance...

Bob Ross

@Zenopath That would be hilarious. I would be psyched and astonished if it was, but that would be hilarious. Jacob: "Turns out Hazel was right, someday I would be someone other than a drug dealer. Now I'm a smuggler and a supervillain"

Anonymous

And Jacob was the name of the boy Carmen thought would be good for Maricel in C93! Surely not a coincidence…did Maricel know him all the way back in the Philippines?

Bob Ross

I think we've seen too much buildup for them to get caught at this point, or to get caught without a fight anyways. And @pedro, totally agree with the cult vibes but devils advocate, Artonan phrases sometimes come across a little culty as well. Maybe they're just...eccentric!

Anonymous

@Zenopath I think it'd be absolutely hilarious if it were Hazel. I just can't quite picture the series of events that would lead to that. It seems really unlikely that she'd have been able to escape Aulia. If Aulia wants her off-planet, she's going off-planet. I could see a plot thread where Aulia is involved in Superhumans At Large. I have no idea what that would look like, or what her underlying motivations would be, but Lute is looking for evidence of her committing a crime...

Bob Ross

Other than Lexi and Alden, which of his classmates' career goals have we heard? Just Maricel?

Bob Ross

Winston next gym class: "Surrender" Alden: "Huh, you want to surrender to me? Alright I guess I accept."

Bob Ross

Heloísa drank over 36 cups of a concoction I would be afraid to describe in case I woke it up from its dark slumber and it noticed. She was willing to endure that over and over again until the potion was all gone. She probably sees Mehdi's resistance the same way. "Just one more cup, he can't keep it up longer than I can"

Baconwargod

“The fifth was…there was no fifth.” That’s an ominous line. Gotta be a sway on board that’s actively making sure nobody thinks they are there. Could be that one girl from the exams that wouldn’t show anyone her powers would make sense she decided to bail. Also could be someone undercover Sways would be excellent spies after all. A lot of possibilities with that.

John Anastacio

We know Winston's and Finlay's. Haoyu and Vandy are very likely wanting to go hero like their parents.

Matt DiMeo

Zero chance. Think she wants to be a nobody out in the world, or would she go where people are regularly prostrating themselves to her?

Lorevi Q

It didn't seem like an anti-attention drawing thing though. The fifth member was actively being noticed then forgotten about. Maybe memory manipulation can be achieved by word chains but I doubt it.

Bob Ross

@Tori Kon to Haoyu "I'm telling you, that putty ball he carries around with him used to be a person! I saw it get devoured! I really think he might be a canni-" Alden 'Victory' Thorn coming up behind him: "He knows too much. Foe Cooker, get out the soup pot."

Anonymous

So is alden ace?

Lorevi Q

Technically no. The contract bans them and one of the reasons the countries were happy with the Anesidora solution was that it sends the superhumans away so they can't take over. That said, the countries almost certainly have their own secret superhuman programs and/or people who just don't report they're supers. Who knows how much influence those people have over the governments.

William Forrest

Jeffy being so coy about growing up on a farm (presumably because he is embarrassed to be seen as some sort of hick) is so amusing to me. This is a place where skyscrapers have to be torn down because they don't use space efficiently enough and an S rank hero/principal of an elite school can't afford/find a treehouse; a place where Astrid is excited to talk to someone whose seen a raccoon in real life. Everyone is going to think Jeffy living on a farm is the coolest and craziest thing they have ever heard.

Bob Ross

It's been speculated a lot in the community, and Sleyca has made comments supporting that idea. She's also said shes answered questions about character romances in PMs. (Sleyca if you're reading this and I'm mistaken forgive me for directing hundreds of curious shippers directly to your PMs)

Anonymous

Makes sense either that or he's going to go to a lot of therapy sessions before he's comfortable enough to start dating

Ahppy

I can’t wait for Lexi’s cat-apocalypse. Lexi probably didn’t think about the amount of people who would try to get into their dorm room to see Victor.

BelligerentGnu

Dammit, I want to know how the Vandy/Marsha teacher conference went!

Blind

Alden can preserve stacks of stuff or everything in a box so it should be easy to save an object for Kon. I can't see why Kon's skill would disregard the preservation. Imagine though if Alden could preserve just one piece of an object then Kon could base his restoration off that, that'd be broken.

Desidia

Why would a Sway hide from the other runaways if he's running? I think the Sway's going undercover to bust the Superhumans at Large. The only adult Sway I can think of is Alden's hero philosophy teacher.

Stylemys

Yeah, Winston is the downside of them nerfing the psych evals for Alden. Lowering the bar enough for a freshly traumatized rabbit was also enough to let in the jackass wearing sunglasses during the interview.

Rob

I think a lot of people were guessing it was him when Hazel had Jacob at the party. He sounded like a kid that was blackmailed into being there.

Anonymous

I mean if you think about it what would he weird would be if there were enough supervillains that lots of heroes could be kept busy just fighting them longhterm. There aren't that many avowed and most of them end up in anesidora.

Bob Ross

@Stylemys, ya know I'd almost forgotten the sunglasses. I wonder what he said or did during his first try that lead to them rejecting him. And what he said or did differently the second time that changed their mind.

Andrew Simpson

Pretty sure they are not going home. Pretty sure they all signed up to be recruited for a terrorist organization.

Anonymous

Yeah but some series lampshade that issue because super villains are cool. I am really curious to see the ecosystem of the "villains". There is an interesting angle because it seems impossible to jail an avowed that gets summoned regularly so recurring villains do seem possible.

Bob Ross

@Michael, North American here, what is this "comfortable bus" you speak of?

SnuggleCat

SOUP!! *Ravenous slurping noises*

FuriousDee

We were talking about the Bound Authority though that is how most stats work I don’t see why visual processing would be different

Bob Ross

I'm not sure that Marsha does "respect" for non S ranks. All the things we see when we look at Aldens marathon in the face of very likely death, I dont think Marsha would. I think Marsha would just see Aldens "weakness". After all, if he were an S, he probably could have carried two kibbys on his back, and run through the chaos for twice as long, uphill the whole way. Like Lute said "You could be levitating a meter off the ground, weeping diamonds, and exhaling clouds of poisonous gas, and some of those privileged little rankists would still know right down to their bones that they were better than you because you’re only a B."

Rob

At first glance Artonan's seem to treat non Wizards/Knights like surfs. That makes them basically the same thing as a Superhero dictatorship in my book.

VP

Canadian Jeffy truthers, we haven't lost yet. He could be mysterious AND Canadian! People have uncles and grandparents in Canada. And mohawks!

MeYouIt

Yeah I agree, its really fun to theorise and speculate on stuff with everyone :)

Michael Blue

Stylemys I suspect that the psychological was never about screening out assholes, it was about screening out people who had a habit of killing small animals for fun and then got superpowers. Bob Ross: I have been wondering if he told his evaluators the glasses were for branding purposes, since he’s been leaning into corporate hero from day 1

Anonymous

My wild theory is the sway was deliberately influencing vulnerable targets in intake.

Lustratio

I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time Sleyca just offed a fairly major character quickly

Kettle

There’s no reason that Jeffy can’t be Canadian but had just moved to the Midwest to live with his grandparents in their trailer park.

VP

Haoyu might be looking into being summoned/working in task groups like his parents, which is technically an in-island job

VP

Canon supports this theory so far

Nybsz

Secret escape boat full of magical equipment and the next planned event is to go out to see Matadero on Lexi's boat with Haoyu, Alden, and possibly Vandy. Surely nothing will go wrong

Temp One

From what I recall. Sleyca said Alden is on the Ace spectrum; but that he'll have minor romances/flings throughout the story.

BeheadedMouse

Interesting! She definitely refused to show her avowed skills to Alden even though she knew they'd fail her out of hero school if she couldn't find a partner. She definitely could have super suss "Active camouflage" type skill that keeps the brain from retaining any information about her. I really like this theory

GryphonKnight

Why would the island media care except for a tiny blurb? The dead Rabbit boy was not local, was not famous, was not rich, was not powerful, was not influential, etc. The dead alien pseudo platypus probably got more local media coverage Even Stuart thought no one was mourning Alden's death 🔲

Bob Ross

@Will Murray Looking at some of Jacob's internal dialog, that's an intriguing idea "Everything got worse when you left intake, not better as people kept promising him."

Baconwargod

I’ve been trying to find when she would come up again. There was just too much attention when she was introduced for there not to be something more to her. I think this is where she comes in. I can also see Sways as a whole growing resentful of never being let off the island and the general wariness from other avowed. Even the allegations of being Sway like can ruin people seeing how bad it was hinted at for Mannon and other rabbits to have it come out what their skill does. They kind of get treated like lepers by everyone on earth. It would make sense some of them would fall into radical superhuman groups.

GryphonKnight

I was wondering if Manon's dead body is the hidden object and the Sway is smuggling it off the island to protect Grandwitch's plans Avowed would be great at cleaning up a crime scene ( for the good guys or the bad guys ) 🔲

Blorcyn

Oh no. Ambiguous Jeffy strikes again. So, what do we reckon. Is Winston over it? Is the ‘fifth’ passenger the absent Maricel, or a Chainer-murdered-Manon? Did Alden really think and then eat all the Garlic fried rice? Can’t wait to find out.

Temp One

Guy talked about tractors last chapter. Like the things they have on farms. So I don't think he grew up in a trailer park... Not that Jeffy could have possibly grown up on a farm! He's far too cool and mohawk sporting for that to be the case. Why, he's so cool that he went to a school that may or may not have had a bunch of other cool mohawk sporting students.

Gremlin

I would rather not know, I am happy with no romance but also with clumsy fumbling. I find once ot has been "diagnosed" people get annoyed in the comments when it isnt portraied exactly as they think it should.

BeheadedMouse

Finlay definitely has his head on straight with limiting his power usage to make sure he's always fully in control. Winston (loseton) will really need to get his head out of his ass and mature quite a lot to even start competing with him. He's starting from wayyy behind Also, imagining the "What are you all planning to kill me for!?” in the thickest Scottish brouge makes me cakle endlessly! Thanks for the chapter

Gregory

"Rank jumped to kill X" is not that odd here. Reinhard killed Tuyet, Lexi seriously injured Shrike, I bet there were a lot of others. Higher rank is an advantage in a variety of ways but should in no way be considered invulnerability.

GryphonKnight

Maybe the Sway makes you ignore them by thinking the Sway is someone you know was invited but couldn't make it And Sleyca even made the power work on the reader 😈

cafenacet

Ok but what if it's the tree that knocked Alden out at Leafsong? I bet that's an S-rank tree.

BeautifulBusinessBoi

I wonder if there are non-hero super jobs Marsha can get? Like a super powered dueling circuit? Then she could do what she wants in fighting strong people and sidestep her issue of not wanting to help people 👀

Blorcyn

The dealing with the unexpected instructor (?Marion) is a sway too iirc.

Pete

They can't go home anyway, that is kinda the most obvious place to look for them. At best they could be somewhere nearby

sketerpot

"I know what I'm doing," says local teen who definitely knows what he's doing.

GryphonKnight

WORD CHOICE >aquarium-like container sat on top of a crystal dial that was obviously made to hold it. Should "crystal dial" be "crystal DAIS" ? Or is it some sort of clockwork mechanism? 🔲

Blorcyn

Same. I thought he was choosing to avoid thinking for something, but sway is convincing. I think tying together the plot lines is always reasonable, and Sleyca has done that in bigger ways already. We know Jacob is Velras adjacent from the party. They could afford a sway. I think possibly they swayed (or not swayed) him into transporting Manon’s body? If they could report him to the authorities, that would be their blackmail material. A sway might be employed to make sure he didn’t realise he had leverage too?

sketerpot

31. Mina has "an S-rank alteration that will let me block distractions from your mind as they pop up." That sounds a lot like what's happening here, if she doesn't want people getting distracted by her presence in the same room. And it looked like she was having a very bad time in Anesidora – the sort of person who'd want to escape, but not necessarily volunteer to join The Fight.

Blorcyn

Yes. And also noticing the large avowed family style. Maybe there’s something to Stuart’s throwaway Avowed will inherit the earth comment from a little while ago. We know Alden dislikes the alien view of Anesidora as a breeding colony. And yet…

Blorcyn

I think we need to keep a check on this prostate action, before we jinx Alden into a sticky situation. I wouldn’t want him to find his ledger torn up, in debt with no way to rectify his prostate cachet in the palace’s eye. Our boy has a way of find himself in alien trouble, elbow deep. I think we’re all just hoping for a happy ending.

Temp One

Fifth passengers is definitely a Sway. Possibly quite a dangerous one too.

Ali Yang

Alright everyone hear me out; what if this was the start of Winston's redemption arc? In this chapter he kind of just moped around being mute and hiding from everyone. Time for introspection and redemption? I hope so because out of the 2 speedsters in the class I find Heelfeather more interesting than Finlay. Mainly because Finlay strikes me as a bit naive and goody two shoes. He kind of has everything going for him right now so when the other shoe drops or when he faces true adversity I wouldn't be surprised if he started panicking.

DaftWully

If Jeffy was Canadian, he was probably a degen from upcountry.

Blorcyn

Marsha definitely only cares about advice from sources she respects and this school might have great equipment but they’re obviously too obsessed with system experiments. Marsha is there to work. Did she not beat Jeffy? Did she not push herself and attack with everything she had? Is she not growing stronger? If they didn’t want stupid outcomes they wouldn’t have imposed stupid rules. She’ll show them at the duel. She works alone anyway, as it’ll be in the real world. So what if she didn’t manage the As well. It doesn’t matter. Obviously the course could’ve gone better; but Marsha knows that ultimately no one had a problem with her performance, and that the team stink isn’t on her. She attacked well. Why should she be upset? Also. Actually. I bet there was one throw away comment about her double strike. Or something. I bet she’s hyper focused on some piece of martial criticism, watching meister videos. Dismissing the rest. Oh Marsha. What are we going to do with that girl? She must be way young as an S. Hopefully she’ll grow up

Blorcyn

I can totally see Alden being at the start of another for the want of a nail situation, like the Leafsong party messed up thegund. Hazel and Manon have made Jacob take on some risk with dangerous people somehow. They’ve given him the submariner. Underestimation, Alden’s advice, and Maricel’s input mean it’s happening now, and when attacked the boat will win. Resources will be dedicated in the aftermath. (Maybe an Artonan knight, one of the two). Matadoro will be understaffed or miss a vital move for demon day. Alden will be involved in saving Jacob (trapped under water boat? Aqua brute issue? Idk) and then in prime proximity for Demon day horribleness.

Blorcyn

That C comment also made me wonder what Marsha is thinking. Can she really not look up stats and see the value of learning to pull her punches? Does she want to be on an S rank task force. She must have looked up and have a reason for her behaviour.

Zenopath (AEV)

yeah, they could be like climate deniers. "There is no chaos, it's all just a myth created by our Andorian overlords to keep us under thier thumb!"

Blorcyn

Yeah. I wonder if she doesn’t want a city gig but maybe a task force gig, or an alien security/war gig. Maybe she’s got her heart set of visiting the land of the adorable murder creatures or something (Sophie’s’ people. Errr. Griveks).

Blorcyn

He stole it from the Libra. That’s the missing link! So, whatever Aulia’s illegality will be, there’ll be a clue, they’ll try and board her yacht near demon day (Chainers on Libra will be buffing fighters) and the Libra is going down! It seems really plausible that the reveal of where that expensive magical submerger was stolen from is going to be when they’ve been invited onto the boat (and would be fine if they had it), and Lexi is going to need Kon and object powers to toot on over before they’re sunk. You don’t give Lexi a boat and not have it matter. If this doesn’t happen I will still give it good odds. Even once we’re past it. It makes too much sense. I bet I’m wrong.

Anonymous

I mean he literally has heel in his name so I would not be shocked if he continues to be an antagonist or at least a deliberate FOIL. As a character he is our prime representative of the influencer side of super hero life so I do hope he continues to be fleshed out

Blorcyn

Also, Findlay casually showing why he is Winston’s better as a human, a student and just a person. Winston will just think people like him better because he’s an S though.

Blorcyn

As always a fun set of observations. For point 7. I think the investigation of Aulia is going to be something Kon can help with. Either on the Libra or with something they sneak off (maybe he drives Lexi’s boat).

Voidsong

Oh my god I didn't even think of that! It would totally make sense to get rid of a troublemaker and Manon('s corpse) at the same time!!

Voidsong

I don't think everyone needs a redemption arc. In life, there are people who, despite many chances and getting hit in the face by the consequences of their actions, never choose to grow past their petty and awful behavior

BeheadedMouse

@ Voidsong *Chogh* Hazel*cough* Lol I'd be surprised if she ever truly grew past her petty and awful behavior... She'll probably get good enough to fake it convincingly for sure, but that brain might be too broken.

hhttghlk

One of the radishes survived and is making a break for it

Anonymous

Finlay could just be wrong about his system theory. He doesnt know winstons stats and is probably guessing. We also kinda forget that alden is privy to a lot of stuff because of mother and conversations with the system on earth. Finlay only knows as much as what the average globie knows....which turns out to be pretty much guesswork.

Neil H

I'm trying to remember if there were any earlier situations where a character thought they noticed something but then immediately ignored it. I can't think of anything offhand, though.

Juan Diaz

“Some of the guys had decided the swimming tank was enough of a bath.” Authentic teenagers lol

John D Jones

Winston is kind of interesting to me, so I'm going to take a crack at his (mildly) sympathetic back story. So, he's a 15-16 year old kid from New Hampshire. He doesn't seem like he comes from Big Money, but he's probably not from a poor background either. Say middle-class, maybe upper-middle class. So he gets his A-rank and probably gets Speed Brute right off. Before going to school, Winston gets a "job." That "job" is to Get Famous. Figure a big "public relations tour" probably cost his parents a lot of money that they didn't really have. So Winston has to Get Famous to Get Money back. And it works okay. He eventually gets into Celena North. Except that so does Finlay. And Finlay is basically "Anything you can do, I can do better" to Winston. And now there's Alden. Winston has been working his ass off to Get Famous and the fucking B-rank Rabbit with a weird story just seems to attract fame like a damn magnet.

John D Jones

I think it's a little too early for a "redemption arc" for Winston. For one thing, the stakes aren't really that high. As far as Winston's concerned, Alden deliberately stepped on Winston's "cool video" moments. And if Lucille was crying, so what? What's wrong with a person who's crying over a stupid Gym game? I think Winston's going to have to fuck up a lot more and in the "real world" for there to be any chance of a change of attitude for him.

Wheels of Terror

If only the patrols had an Aqua Brute that could dive down deep to find the submersible and use a life preserver skill (and maybe some land moves eventually) to capture them.

John D Jones

The funeral probably got a pretty good amount of play... in Chicago. Anesidora probably talked about the idea of a System crashing more than the dead Rabbit kid whose name they probably didn't even know.

Sleyca

The last major thing I posted about relationships was on Royal Road a couple of months back. I'll copy and paste some of it here. It's maybe a bit ill-tempered in tone, but that's not directed at you or anyone else who's curious about Alden, Isaiah! Questions are very welcome. But at the time I wrote this, I'd received some very angry and entitled demands about whether Alden was *allowed* to have relationships with anyone and who he should be attracted to (as well as some homophobic flailing because Boe said "love you"). I was quite annoyed by both. Here's some of what I posted on that day, with some clarification at the bottom: "...Alden's never felt sexually attracted to anyone. He's a little embarrassed and worried that he's missing out, and he's trying not to overthink it. This, too, is canon. My most frequently DM'd questions are "What is Alden's sexuality exactly?" and "Will there be romance?" The first answer is viewable on the Discord I think and I'll continue to answer it in DM's for anyone who asks. The second, I am weirdly bad at answering but I'll try here. Super Supportive is a multi-genre creature, but traditional romance is unlikely to be a significant part of the overall story. I'm very interested in writing about different types of friendship, brotherhood, and intimate connection without feeling tied down by romantic conventions.... But if you're of the 'no romance ever, not even a single date' mindset...I'm probably not going to be able to satisfy that. This is going to be a really long story. Alden's sixteen. He's still figuring himself out. I don't want to make promises in either direction because if I don't end up fulfilling them, people will be disappointed. It might not be in my notes for major plot points, but I would be surprised if he never gave it a try at all. Also I have aliens to work with! That opens up so many possible varieties of relationship to talk about. Which brings me to the last thing: This is a serial about teenagers and young adults set in 2040 (recently decided on the exact date for calendaring purposes, but it's always been 2040ish), eighty years after aliens with alien marriage customs introduced themselves to Earth. The first mention of a girl and a boy being attracted to our embarrassed protagonist was back in Chapter 6. Artonans sometimes marry in groups. (First mentioned in 18 and alluded to several times since.) There's sex gum. Alis-art'h and the Primary both have multiple spouses. There have been sex-ed classes where Gus and Gretchen taught everyone to be careful of their partners' pH balances and had slides featuring quadrupeds. All of this has been in the story from the beginning. So if Alden makes out with a sentient fern in Chapter 800... I don't have plans to that effect and can't currently imagine what permutations of story would lead us there, but people sometimes make sweeping statements about what will turn them off of the story forever and ever. Don't you dare, Sleyca! And I don't feel particularly limited by those statements. I'm just doing my level best to let Alden and my other characters grow and succeed and fail and breathe in a full, complicated world. " That's a very long-winded answer, but I'll still add to it for anyone who's curious: Readers tend to analyze Alden's sexuality a lot more than Alden himself does at this point in the story. Prior to Thegund, not being that interested was a source of minor embarrassment for him--he blushed when Gorgon brought it up and was snippy with Boe and Jeremy for letting the school think he was dating a girl on the track team. Post-Thegund he's actually less embarrassed, by a lot of things, and busy trying to put his life back together and recover. He's aware that not getting electrified and magnetized by the sight of traditionally hot guys and gals is a fact for him, but it's not an urgent matter to him. He's shocked by Natalie Choir when he first meets her because "Holy shit, she's gorgeous!" wouldn't *normally* be his first thought about another person, so he takes a few seconds to analyze it, realizes it's the same kind of reaction he'd have to a breathtaking sunset rather than a horny moment, and goes about his day. I will add, because it's at least been brushed over canonically, that Alden isn't opposed to sex or any more freaked out about the idea of it than an average sixteen-year-old. He's cool with Connie having lots of it. He's cool with the Artonans doing it how they do it. And he's actually far less alarmed by the Avowed sex-ed class than most of the other people in intake and he even starts to find it all a bit funny. So he doesn't hate that channel everyone else his age seems to be kind of obsessed with, he just isn't tuned into it himself. Not being tuned into it doesn't mean he can't be curious about what the big deal is and want to try it out at some point. Finally, I struggle with romance questions more than sexuality questions because I'm not sure what any given individual means when they say, "Will there be romance?" I don't want to be wishy-washy with answers since I do know Alden and have ideas about how his emotional relationships will develop with various characters, but I feel like people asking about romance often have very specific notions about what qualifies as romance to them. After asking around (I have asked around) there are people who think a single date is romance and also those who think anything that doesn't result in a lifelong Happily Ever After is just a sparkling tragedy. I'm not that into romance, as a genre, and even I have specific opinions on the matter. (I don't consider harems in which the guy collects a buxom girl-shaped reward at the end of each adventure to be romance, but a lot of people probably do. I would consider three sentient ferns singing of their undying fidelity to each other across the forest each night, even though they were planted too far away to touch, a romance; but a lot of people probably wouldn't. ) Maybe the best answer for the romance question isn't about romance at all -- "Lots of things are going to happen in this story before the end, and Alden won't live a loveless life." But you guys already knew that from all that's gone before. I hope that helps everyone without spoiling anyone! Sorry for taking over your comment to answer all the things, Isaiah!

David

Let’s be honest though, Lexi is a cat’s dream human. They’ll be cuddle buddies in days.

Master Program

A bit of a dark thought but I wonder if Alden's statement about Boe tonight will come back to haunt him. Presumably as Alden becomes more noticeable and important, different human factions will try to influence him like the Velras, the Anesidoran council or even the SAL. One of the easiest ways to do this is through close family which Alden is distinctly lacking outside of his Aunt. And then into the picture strolls Boe who Alden considers as close as a brother and can conveniently go missing for months without anyone looking for him meaning hes lacking his own support network. This might be how he eventually gets outed as an avowed and has to put that money Alden gave him to work.

Adunk

Sometimes people are just assholes. Not everyone needs to be sympathetic. Even more, circumstances don’t mitigate actions.

John D Jones

Sure, but it's fun to think about why somebody is doing what they're doing. Most people are the heroes of their own stories. I'm just wondering how Winston sees himself as the hero of his story.

Anonymous

Well I'm happy that you have out this much thought into it. Alden is one of the most mentally mature 16 year Olds around (might be the trauma who knows) I'm excited to see him grow and develop as a person and to have others witness the kind of person he is and grow ever closer to either platonic relationships or romantic. I'm very excited to see the next steps of this story and I thank you for sharing it with the world

Sleyca

I just wrote a enormous reply to Isaiah up above, about 17-18 comments back, clarifying some comments I've made in the past about sexuality/romance in the story. I don't consider it to be a major part of the serial right now, so I'll probably wait for a future Q&A to make a formal post about it. But if you're someone who's been curious or who hasn't seen my past replies to people asking about things of that nature and you wanted clarification, there it is. I don't think there's anything there most people would consider spoilers!

John D Jones

[quote]Forty-one students, six instructors, and one principal nearly filled the place up.[/quote] This should probably be Forty students since Soren is presumably getting his skin grown back right now. Unless Lute showed up because "team trainer."

John D Jones

Winston is absolutely NOT over it. The fifth person is probably a Sway. Alden probably did not eat all of the garlic fried rice, just most of what was left once he got access to it. Also, I now bitterly resent living in a city with zero Filipino restaurant within at least a 50 mile radius. Indian place? Yep. Thai place? Yep. Chinese/Japanese places? Oh yeah. But not a single Filipino place to save my stomach. Sad face.

John D Jones

@ Nybsz Stuff will probably go wrong (or right) for Alden and co. going out to Matadero, but I doubt that it'll have anything to do with the secret escape that's already leaving tonight.

Pedro Henrique

Do we have a Discord? Never heard of it neither here or on Royal Road.

Garrett

The class originally has 42 students. If you look at the teams, there were two teams of 10 and two teams of 11.

John D Jones

@ Gregory I think the main part of it was that not only was Team Vandy/Marsha beaten in all four of their contests, several of them (Max, Marsha and likely Winston) couldn't even finish the course by the end. I agree with McIntosh Ewell that it was probably more of a "we'll work closely with you to help you do better at teamwork" talk. Figure the full positives/negatives talk will come on Monday.

John D Jones

IIRC Sleyca stated that there were only 41 student and she wasn't sure where the two teams of 11 had come from. Here it is from the author notes for chapter 125: [quote](I forgot there were 41 total students last week...it says it right on my class notes page multiple times. 42 got stuck in my head instead. I guess it really is the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything?)[/quote]

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

I really appreciate the amount of thought and communication Sleyca puts into this stuff. Personally, I am not all that big on sex and romance in fiction, sapient ferns notwithstanding, but if anyone could write it in a way I could enjoy, it would be Sleyca.

Karl

Scrolling through patreon comments in miserable- so here's a link to the unofficial fan discord https://discord.com/invite/wQ5smnJs

Obran

Speaking of perception. If Kon bought a cheese pizza and perceived that an unbroken pizza had ham and pineapple on it, could he fix it, from cheese to hawaiian?

John D Jones

Alden talking to Jacob probably isn't going anywhere for the near future since Jacob likely is not going to get caught this time.

Carl Earl

I have a feeling he might, but you could very well be right.

Heather White

I bet her fantasy is kicking bad guy ass & being admired by the masses. Helping people is just a side effect that increases adulation.

Anonymous

Was Nelson Mandela fighting against apartheid a villain? SaL appear to be doing the same. Loving the shades of grey Sleyca puts into the story - not needing everything to be neatly placed into the good box or bad box.

Sleyca

You are correct, John! (...I'm going to be getting 41/42 wrong frequently it seems.)

John D Jones

I suspect that Alden's going to be talking about it with Lexi, Haoyu and possibly Vandy if they do the Matadero boat trip this weekend. I think that the island defenders/guards will notice their boat, which will get too close and they'll get grabbed. Instead of being sent back with a lecture, they'll get invited in by the two Knight because of Alden and his Commendation. Which Alden will then have to explain to his companions. Which will make Vandy's eyes just get sooooo big.

Poiuy

I don’t know if someone already posted this, but rereading Chapter 118: Unfolding, I noticed this: “It was always strange to view the gym footage. The first time Alden had seen his body in high definition from every angle, wearing the unitard and doing the kinds of things they did in MPE, he hadn’t recognized himself. In ways both good and bad. His reaction had included important concerns like: Is my accent slightly different than it used to be?” This confirms that audio is on drone footage, so the instructors definitely heard everything, but in the same scene it is also implied that you only get sent footage of yourself, so only the instructors and students involved would hear “private” conversations.

Randal S

Yes, it seems that motivated Bs special enough to get into this school are going to be more competent, on average, than the average A. Not at all unusual, there's even a group of Bs out proving points, apparently. On the other hand, he's also a Rabbit, with "one skill", as Winston said. He's definitely the MVP for showing how versatile and deadly that one skill can be, with little fanfare. It was such a good moment.

John D Jones

@ Stylemys Winston's goal is "Look cool taking down "villains" (AKA soccer moms who don't want to move to Point Nemo) so I can get famous enough to get sports drink endorsements." I mean, it's not exactly "With great power comes great responsibility" but it's a goal that's reasonably congruent with being a "super-hero." Winston is a wannabe Captain Amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GldrAEUTeBM&ab_channel=JoBloSuperheroes

Randal S

I had a thought about wordchains reading this chapter, even though word chains appear nowhere in this chapter. Word chains are certainly given extreme significance by the narrative, despite Alden not being a chainer himself. Word chains are supposedly an ancient form of magic, and seem to be the only kind that the gremlin reacts to to sense the "unevenness". Are wordchains special in that they bind up the "anti-wordchain" up in the casting? I wonder if the special part of wordchains is that they package the chaos as the second part of the spell, as opposed to other types of magic that simply release the unevenness in the form of chaos. What if it's only wordchains that naturally "recycle", and that's why they'd be considered the most pure and sacred?

Lilyamiia

I really apreciate this mindset. Funnily enough alden's experience with this subject for now lines up literally perfectly with my experience, down to the transition from mild embarassment to not caring and not thinking about it unless other people bring it up, so at least you can say its "realistic". Im really interested in how it will go and i like that its not set in stone for now :)

Carl Earl

We already know that Alden's power stops time from affecting objects. That's the whole reason it works. Crazy Instructor Lady from his admissions exam proved this by using Alden to time travel. It will be nice when Alden can start having productive conversations with his classmates about how perception affects power. So far it's all been off-hand and vague. I want to see him and his roommates get into specifics. This probably won't happen until he stops "faking it" with his abilities though.

John D Jones

@ Stylemys Potentially skewed but not necessarily wrong. When Alden tells people that he's fine or okay, he's pretty much telling the truth as far as I can tell. He's not shutting down or cracking under pressure. He's not only functioning well in school, including Gym, he's actually handled a medical emergency at the dorms. So far the principal and instructors are likely breathing sighs of relief that Alden is adjusting well because he's both emotionally mature and mentally very resilient.

John D Jones

@ Anon That one's on the escape boat. I choose to believe that it's Lute and he's too short (and too involved with scarfing down Filipino food) for the others to notice.

Adunk

Interesting. Matches roughly with where I expected things were headed. You have a lot of caveats and such, though. You’re very intelligent and well spoken, you have to know that giving an answer like “Yes (or no), Alden will (or won’t) enter a mutual romantic relationship and have sex with with at least one other human or near-human alien at some point.” would save you a lot of trouble. Vacillating to maintain story mystique (or because it might change in the writing) is just signing yourself up for pain, unfortunately, because people be thirsty. I am sure you are aware that most people are asking about at least medium-term reciprocal affection between the MC and at least one other humanoid entity, with a follow-up question about if the MC will have a happily-ever-after adjacent ending where he rides off into the story’s sunset with True Love(TM). Most would like more specific answers too, but that would cover the vast majority of questions. The second biggest would probably be people trying to suss out if you are going to do any “gay stuff” so they can be mad or flee, followed by people asking about Alden and an alien wizard(ess) polycule. Or maybe people asking for there to be no romance. Surprisingly large numbers of people want to cut off that aspect in their reading.

Carl Earl

I'm not trying to get political AT ALL, but your characterization of Winston here made me think of a few similar speeches by a former US president, and now all I can hear is Winston using that voice.

Trin

So the fifth passenger has to be some kind of memory/perception Sway, right?

Neal Mayne

That's what everything points to for me. And being from an extremely rural area myself I feel that embassment so hard.

VP

You know, now someone has to take one for the team and write Alden/sentient fern fanfic

VP

Do we think Jupiter would be happy or jealous that Alden might get together with a sentient fern in cap 800. I think jealous. Of Alden, she would want to date the fern herself

Adunk

@VP That’s disgusting. Jupiter would never do that. She would date some sort of noble flora. Like holly.

Carl Earl

Just to clarify, Uranus is the only planet named after a Greek deity. All of the other planets are named after Roman deities.

asyn

@Will, I think this theory is rather likely. If they're robbing dispensaries, a Wright would be even better

Neal Mayne

The thing I find funny is that the fan group that Winston is trying to corner is people that like bad ass A rank brutes. He's in less direct competition with Alden and Finley then he is with others. The one he should be concerned about is Haoyu who is also an A rank brute but more chrismatic and competent then Winston by far, he's the one that'll steal all the fans.

BeheadedMouse

You heard it here first guys... There's totally going to be 800 chapters, it's cannon NO TAKEBACKSIES!!!

John D Jones

Not completely true. IIRC, the Gremlin also made Joe's life hard when it came to negotiating the contract tattoo with Alden. The Gremlin can apparently sense different kinds of magical imbalances, not just word-chain debt.

BeheadedMouse

I keep coming up with the wildest (mostly unsupported) fan theory's for this story... I won't post them because no one needs that brain poison, but after rereading the story for the second time... They won't stop lol This world is so interesting and being built so well it's hard not to think of what ifs

AISHA AHMED

for some reason, I picture Max to look like Kabru from Dungeon meshi and it really fits

Tori, Writher #1 Fan

@Adunk the full long statement Sleyca made can be found in a response to an earlier comment by Isaiah, I think it explicitly addresses most of your concerns.

Carl Earl

Actually, all the footage of the obstacle course runs is available to all students. There are lots of references to them watching other teams footage, and wondering about how they would look to other students.

Adunk

Yes. I know. My comment here is mostly to convey my personal view on ways to make the referenced future Q&A less painful, based on prior experience. That’s why I posted it here rather than there.

Anonymous

Jupiter's siblings are named for the planets, which invokes a very important question: Is Pluto still a planet in this timeline? Were any of the Avowed heroic enough to save it?

John D Jones

@ Neal Mayne It's not that Finlay's an S-rank. It's that Finlay pretty much does everything that Winston can do better than Winston can do it because he's an S-rank Speed Brute while Winston's an A-rank Speed Brute. There's very little that Winston can do to compete for "coolness" against someone like that. As for Alden, I'm wondering if perhaps Winston's dislike of Alden is kind of Alden's own fault. Winston was introduced in Ch. 73 "A Busy Morning Part 1." He comes off a little shallow, but basically pretty friendly toward Alden and Maricel. Towards the end of that chapter, Alden is talking with Maricel and he says [quote] “I was listening. Your ambition is to become so powerful that nobody can stop you from being with the people you care about. I don’t see how a guy whose current life goal is to advertise vitamin-laced fruit punch is going to compete with you.”[/quote] Sure, Alden was trying to encourage Maricel, but it was kind of a mean thing to say regarding Winston. What if Winston was close enough to hear Alden say that? I can see how Alden sneering at Winston's life goals would make Winston angry at him.

John D Jones

Astronomy is still astronomy. In a setting with actual space travel, Pluto probably got down-graded on the "planet" scale much earlier.

Anonymous

I feel like I should be concerned that I don't know why people talk about Alden's sexuality 80% of the time it comes up. I've always been oblivious, but sometimes I think I'm reading a different chapter lol.

Pete

@Tori, Adunk is commenting about that statement, I believe.

Ano Ano

A gay juggalo commune, surely. I think he's only mentioned male relatives.

Poiuy

People who are looking for a romantic partner or sexual relationship become very interested in understanding the preferences of others because that is relevant to themselves. If that is a main focus in their lives, it can become the first thing they look for in others. If you aren’t looking for romance or sex with a teenager right now, you are definitely reading different story than those commenters are reading.

Poiuy

Is it? From this scene I thought they only reviewed their own footage, but it could be that they were just all watching the same screen because of the betting.

He's Just a Little Guy

Jacob was with Hazel at the party - they definitely know each other. I hadn’t thought it might be Hazel (and I’d be surprised if she had escaped Aulia) but it’s a cool possibility.

Poiuy

My favorite movie romance is the friendship in In the Mood for Love, so I’d really love it if you make something big happen in 2046 ❤️❤️❤️

TS

Of course it's a planet in this timeline. Aliens would not have cared about how orbital masses get named so us humans would not have cared about orbital typology so much as to de-planetifiy Pluto.

Anonymous

@John D Jones The Artonans aren't exactly forthcoming with their knowledge, and in a world with teleporting interdimensional aliens I have to imagine that expensive space projects would lose a lot of appeal.

John D Jones

@ Poiuy Or, and I'm just throwin' this out there, maybe instead of the comments being filled with would-be statutory rapists, other people are curious about and interested in the teenage male protagonist who is NOT the usual bag full of lust hormones.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Mostly unrelated but I wanted to hear people’s theories: I re-read chapter 38 and 39, when Alden first met the primary. “You’re too untranslateable to go unused, I’m afraid…” “…you’re too whole for us to avoid one another over the long run. Try to grow up well and live fully before then.” Ominous! What do we think whole means now, and why would they have to meet (and not go unused), and why should Alden live fully beyond then? Did the Primary already intend to make him a knight? Probably not, because in the memory of the suicide ceremony there were only Artonans iirc. Also the Primary doesn’t know Alden’s skill yet, so probably nothing to do with how BoaB is unlimited. It is purely related to the quality of Alden’s authority We know that it’s to do with the high quality of his authority, since that’s what Stuart said he told his father. Most likely the stability. But what are the implications? And then when talking with Joe: ‘One day, when the Primary realizes which skill you have, he’s going to make your life absolutely miserable.’ ‘When you see the endless misery on the horizon, that’s the moment.’ Probably talking about forced knighthood? Maybe? Forcing him to carry the burden of pain the knights have, or possibly carry the burden of their authority or affixation a when they’re off duty?

Temp One

I wonder if Max is going to ask if he could join Alden in his Wordchain tutoring sessions? It really seems like Wordchains are going to be what lets the B ranks punch way above their weight. Like working out and training their skill is only going to take them so far when their classmates have skills and foundation points that put them head and shoulders above the B ranks. It's interesting, because I could see this being a massive oversight by the teachers at Cena North. Because they're all S or A ranks that never needed that additional oomph to supplement their power. Because why would they? They're already at the top of the power chain.

Charles Hinton

I think the ads being called out when they were talking in the mall is something. Like maybe setup for someone spying through the tech or something.

Chris

Alden's going to be summoned to chaos zones for the rest of his life (stuck in chaos miasma all the time = "absolutely miserable.") And Joe knew it as soon as Alden told him what the Primary had said. And with his skill being what it is, Alden will likely be summoned more frequently and to more dangerous chaos zones once the Primary realizes what it is. To back this up, Mother told Alden that the Primary intended for him to be, "useful support staff for knights," in low chaos zones. Because he is remarkable stable, which Stu picked up on and then told his father. I personally think Alden becoming a knight will prevent others from being able to summon him, but in exchange he'll then have the responsibility to lead teams in chaos zones instead. NOTE 1: Alden is pretty much in a shit situation. Leveling means a future filled with affixation pain, but he has to level his skill to improve his chances of surviving in environments full of chaos and demons (that he now knows grow to the size of Earth's moon, 1/11 the size of Thegund). The option to do nothing doesn't exist for him since the Primary -WILL- be summoning him when he turns 30 (or much sooner, most likely). NOTE 2: Neha, the rabbit intake counselor said something interesting in chapter 65. --- "... Anyway, I spend about two thirds of my year on the Triplanets. It’s good work, but I don’t need it at this point in my career. And I still get called to do it.” “That is a ton of work time for an Avowed,” Alden said, surprised. “Even for a Rabbit.” --- Alden looks to be facing a future where he spends at least two thirds of his life in chaos zones. And his time outside chaos zones will be speckled with a month or two off to deal with affixation. ^ This is probably why Knights are revered and supported by Artonans!

John D Jones

A few things to recall. First, Joe is a very cynical person when it comes to others. Recall that his first offers to get Alden to rescue his people involved giving Alden bio-weapons or mind control drugs (for Alden to use on others). Second, these discussions took place before Alden got stranded on Thegund and learned to sense his own Authority and cast spells. For the Primary, Alden has a useful Skill couple with an apparent resistance to Chaos. Eventually Knights will be summoning Alden to at least moderate strength Chaos zones and not for jobs like "Keep my Wevvi drink piping hot." For Joe's take on the Skill, something similar but if anything even worse. Alden will be constantly getting summoned to Hellzones to preserve things/people. But neither of those cases really apply now. Alden has all the qualification of a full Knight, so if he gets the responsibilities of a Knight, he'll also get the rights and privileges of one as well, which isn't something that Joe saw coming.

John D Jones

Boxing and mixed martial arts tournaments are things today in our real world. It's absurd to think that Meister tournaments wouldn't be things in this setting as well. Hell, wasn't Marsha watching highlights from some of them on the bus ride to the Mall?

Matt DiMeo

There are low-rank enclaves other than anesidora. Mentioned in the first few chapters. But I think dictatorships would have been mentioned :)

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Oh when did Mother tell him that? I thought that theory was too straightforward and was expecting a twist, but if mother said that then I guess that’s it

Anonymous

It's easy to criticize the teachers for missing the utility of wordchains when almost all the wordchains we've seen in the story so far are likely restricted. My Body is My Assistant and whatever strength chains Hazel was using seem extremely powerful and useful for a would be superhero, but getting permission to learn them is close to impossible on Earth without knowing a Velra directly.

Anonymous

@Heather I honestly don't think Marsha cares about helping people. At the very least, she probably treats it secondary to getting "honor" by fighting strong opponents

Chris

It's in chapter 59. --- She grinned. “Don’t worry about it. The Knights of the Mother Planet aren’t currently recruiting humans into their ranks.” For some reason, Alden felt like she was lying. “Why would I lie? The idea hasn’t even crossed their minds. There have been Knights from other species in the past, but it was long before your planet was discovered. And even then, there were a relatively small number of them compared to the number of Artonans. Just having an authority sense and an affixation and swearing to protect the Triplanets doesn’t automatically grant you access to the elite level of ‘demon-fighting club.’ There’s at least one other requirement…even if you ignore significant political factors.” “That’s good,” he said with relief. She raised an eyebrow. “Is it? I think I should point out that you are on the verge of accepting nearly all of the most difficult parts of Knighthood without the benefit of the reverence and extraordinary support they enjoy from the rest of wizarding society.” Alden frowned. “You’re still an Avowed. You can still be summoned into battle. And the Primary is already aware that you’re abnormally chaos-resistant. Your stability was especially noteworthy considering how fresh your affixation was. There’s usually a period when a skill works but it’s still in the process of…settling in and becoming. It can be vulnerable to certain kinds of damage. Avowed can’t feel it, but Knights pay attention to that kind of thing. His son is really quite sensitive. When your authority touched him, he noticed that it was of an unusual caliber, and he mentioned it to his father in passing.’” Thanks, Stuart. Alden thought back to the party. “Does he plan to summon me into battle?” “He was making a mental note of your qualities for later. He’s currently thinking of you as someone who will be useful support staff for Knights in low level chaos fields in the future. An errand runner or medic’s assistant. He plans to reassess your abilities when you’re around thirty.” “Level thirty?” “Years old,” she clarified. “Oh.” At least it was a long way away. “Thanks for the warning.” “It wasn’t a warning.” Alden was still going to take it as one. --- Note: Holding hands is how the Primary assessed Alden's talent at the party. So it's likely how he'll assess Alden again (meaning a summoning). Stu could tell just from their authority touching, which is why he giggled upon learning his dad needed to hold Alden's hands.

sketerpot

It looks like Alden has access to wordchains that are way stronger than most humans do. And much more rare, and therefore restricted. Max could get authorization to learn them, probably, if Lute agreed to take him on as another official wordchain disciple. But this doesn’t seem like something that would scale; the only reason why Lute went along with the current arrangement is because Alden is a fun-to-hang-out-with friend who learns wordchains exceptionally quickly because of his very targeted System enhancements.

FuriousDee

They are probably the recruiter and the only non expendable person there hence they need to protect themselves from being dragged down by the others

Sleyca

@Adunk, thank you! On the romance front, I do know I'll keep getting questions as long as I keep refusing to sign my name in blood to an oath swearing that Alden will or won't fall in love with someone and revealing whether that someone will be human/alien/boy/girl/single/multiple/etc... I don't mind the questions. I'm just trying to navigate giving people the info I can while avoiding even a hint of spoilers. In this case, I consider spoilers to be anything Alden doesn't yet know about himself, so that does leave me without many options beyond highlighting what's already present in the story for him personally and the world at large.

The butler did it

I was rereading Alden's story from the beginning and I had a crazy thought I had to share. We know so far that the Bearer of All Burdens can remove enchantments from objects, and that's while Alden is still relatively low level. As I understand it affixations are powerful magical constructs that basically focus Authority to conduct a few tasks at a level beyond what even the most powerful Artonan wizards are capable of. The knights consider their affixations to be torturously painful, to the point where assisted suicide is considered a reasonable choice. What if Bearer of All Burdens is meant to eventually remove affixations from those knights who are no longer able to bear them? Wouldn't that be just the sort of skill that is both badly needed and would be terrifying to the paranoid all at the same time? It would explain why the committee that created affixations limited it so much. What do you think?

Calico C

With the existence of ground shapers and water shapers, why don’t they expand the island? There seems to be not enough room. It would probably be a massive ordeal, and expensive, but the island is only becoming more and more crowded. Even Japan, without Avowed, it making headway on it

Aidan Gorman

That's a scary thought. Alden has already said he's avoiding taking skills like that so he doesn't become a wizards pain repository. But to follow your point, maybe there is a skill that allows him to share a burden. Maybe that would help lighten the load and they both suffer, but it's a lesser suffering? Maybe he could just help them through their affixations? Not saying that Alden would choose to do that. But there also haven't been any avowed trained to do magic and use their authority, which will lead to potentially slow but unstoppable levels. He will reach reach further heights in that skill than anyone ever.

Aidan Gorman

I think to be good you have to be fluent in Artorian; to be as good as Alden you need authority sense. I wonder what percentage of the students are fluent.

Anonymous

This is pretty brilliant theory and would fit really well thematically. We don't have enough evidence at this point but it is a neat thought

redhandedjill (edited)

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2024-02-09 03:42:43 The Submerger could be pretty amazing. The deeper you get in the ocean, the less light filters down to you and the more your vessel has to withstand the pressure of the water above you. Unmanned exploration vehicles can go deeper than ones with people, but then you have to figure out how to power and communicate with it. (Use a cable that's up to 7 miles long?) You're dealing with a dark, cold, hostile environment. I'm not sure how deep they're going in the story, but we are in the Pacific Ocean which is home to the Mariana Trench. If the Submerger can turn a ship into a submersible and do it safely, that is pretty dang magical.
2024-02-09 03:41:22 The Submerger could be pretty amazing. The deeper you get in the ocean, the less light filters down to you and the more your vessel has to withstand the pressure of the water above. Unmanned exploration vehicles can go deeper than ones with people, but then you have to figure out how to power and communicate with it. (Use a cable that's up to 7 miles long?) You're dealing with a dark, cold, hostile environment. I'm not sure how deep they're going in the story, but we are in the Pacific Ocean which is home to the Mariana Trench. If the Submerger can turn a ship into a submersible and do it safely, that is pretty dang magical.

The Submerger could be pretty amazing. The deeper you get in the ocean, the less light filters down to you and the more your vessel has to withstand the pressure of the water above. Unmanned exploration vehicles can go deeper than ones with people, but then you have to figure out how to power and communicate with it. (Use a cable that's up to 7 miles long?) You're dealing with a dark, cold, hostile environment. I'm not sure how deep they're going in the story, but we are in the Pacific Ocean which is home to the Mariana Trench. If the Submerger can turn a ship into a submersible and do it safely, that is pretty dang magical.

Anonymous

We have not seen evidence of overcrowding so far. There may also be treaties limiting it growth as anseidora is such a global diplomatic flashpoint.

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2024-02-09 03:42:49 Thank you for the chapter 🙏 Love that Finlay recognizes Alden’s servant leadership and asks Alden why people on *his* team keep saying they’ll feast lol. Authority recognizes authority. Maybe it was cuz he was right next to Alden but I hope some students recognizes Alden being super supportive So glad Maricel and her family are okay - though I’m worried she only thinks the worst thing that could happen to Jacob is him being captured 😬 the fact the captain seems off his rocker is worrisome Jeffy continues to be amazing. An international man of mystery. Even Marion can’t sway through the secrets lol.
2024-02-09 03:42:40 Thank you for the chapter 🙏 Love that Finlay recognizes Alden’s servant leadership and asks Alden why people on *his* team keep saying they’ll feast lol. Authority recognizes authority. Maybe it was cuz he was right next to Alden but I hope some students recognize Alden being super supportive So glad Maricel and her family are okay - though I’m worried she only thinks the worst thing that could happen to Jacob is him being captured 😬 the fact the captain seems off his rocker is worrisome Jeffy continues to be amazing. An international man of mystery. Even Marion can’t sway through the secrets lol.

Thank you for the chapter 🙏 Love that Finlay recognizes Alden’s servant leadership and asks Alden why people on *his* team keep saying they’ll feast lol. Authority recognizes authority. Maybe it was cuz he was right next to Alden but I hope some students recognize Alden being super supportive So glad Maricel and her family are okay - though I’m worried she only thinks the worst thing that could happen to Jacob is him being captured 😬 the fact the captain seems off his rocker is worrisome Jeffy continues to be amazing. An international man of mystery. Even Marion can’t sway through the secrets lol.

Anonymous

I mean it's not an oversight it's a deliberate scholastic choice. Their goal at this point is not to make each student as powerful as possible as quickly as possible it is instead to get them to develop their powers. They want students pushing their abilities to help stretch their authorities and get them to level. They specifically mention word chains are taught much later as they are time intensive and do not speed up power growth. They are probably also easier with more foundation points. This is similiar logic when explaining to alden why he should not practice marksmanship

Aidan Gorman

The students get to watch them, but stuff like Winston's fan videos can't include other students.

Sinnohan

One day, Alden will be able to transfer the invisibility from the temper sphere to his rope. That will be very scary indeed for the enemy speedsters. I feel like Winston got stuck with Marsha on the bus because he was late and everyone wanted to avoid Marsha. I thought that he had at least a friend or two among the unnamed A ranks, but I could be wrong. “But we have a country of our own here now. They didn’t.” I don’t consider Vandy’s argument to be valid since most Avowed are forced to move to Anesidora, whether they want to or not. “The other one…there was no other passenger.” A Sway younger than 19 that would have a reason to leave Anesidora. Hello Mina, it’s very rude to experiment with your powers on other people without permission. I don’t remember who originally said this, but it definitely seems that she secretly took a skill similar to Imp’s power (from Worm) between attempts at passing the hero exam and that’s why she couldn’t show Alden her profile.

Zenopath (AEV)

I think they were talking about how stable his authority is. He resists chaos well, holds himself together better than expected during unstable teleports. Basically it means he's useful in situations where most avowed can't safely be used AKA chaos fields.

Andrew Tobin

Makes sense to me, and the three fern scenario is totally romantic and I don’t know how anyone would consider it otherwise.

5haun

“It’s just logic” or whatever he said last chapter in his perspective 😂

Neil H

True, but I really wouldn't want Jeffy to go solo against a probably S-rank Sway, and whoever else is on that boat/sub.

5haun

This is a very good and very important question, IMO, especially in terms of the Super-humans at Large and the intro of womb vaults (intro I this chapter). Worldbuilding like this is incredible and I love it, it hints at what’s possible in the far future

Daniel

@Zipper, school stories usually have intense relationships. Romance is an intense relationship. So lots of people just assume that'll happen here for Alden. Asexuality is unusual enough that's it taking a while for it to sink in for some readers. It does make for some hilarious mismatches, if you're watching closely. My favorite is Lute, getting in the hot tub with three attractive girls, saying to a subtext-oblivious Alden: "Don't thank me. I should be thanking you." @Poiuy, please don't troll all the romance readers like that, it's cheap and a bit mean. If lots of women love _Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation_ for the gay martial-artist romance, that doesn't mean they want to be gay men, martial artists, or stuck in ancient magic China. If Shakespeare's _Romeo and Juliet_ has been a classic for centuries, it isn't because its admirers are all desperately lonely or "want to have sex with a teenager", which Romeo and Juliet both are. Remember, we're all here because we love the same story. I like that Alden is ace. I'm bemused when I see other people haven't picked up on his asexuality yet. But like Alden with hot-tub Lute, I want to still be at least a little supportive of our fellow fans whose default tastes are different.

Temp One

I don't think so, a power that hides your presence from other people isn't nefarious on its own. Rather it could be a decent benign Sway power. I think Mina would have needed an ability that changes how Alden behaves, or let's her read his thoughts, or could control his actions, to make her know that Alden wouldn't accept her rummaging about in his head. Plus, I think Mina would need to be Jacob's age and really young. Since she was trying to get into a high school. But Jacob seems to conclusively know he's the youngest there.

5haun

John, is Jupiter Rising any good? I’ve always avoided it due to its reception but I’ve heard the cult following is fairly good. This is coming from a total fantasy/sci-fi nerd myself😅

Daniel

Sleyca mentions this in chapter 78: Kon shrugged. “Maybe they’ll build another island when we get a couple million more people, and we can call it mid-city?” “Mid-city?” “B’s can hang there with the C’s. Feeling all superior. And then we mighty S’s can have two islands to look down on instead of one.”

5haun

100% in agreement, especially with Marion (the sway instructor there). I hope no thoughts about Boe made it Marion’s way - Alden would never forgive himself for that

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

@5haun, I'm not John, but I have seen Jupiter Rising. I enjoyed it, though I wouldn't call it a masterpiece of storytelling. It is one of those movies I occasionally come across where it feels like the story is more a vehicle for the world building than it is an actual focus. The world building can be spectacular, and indeed, Jupiter Rising includes some breathtaking imagery and intriguing hints of a broader universe beyond the limited perspective of Earth, but the actual story arc is a bit lackluster in my view. I still enjoyed it. I would be interested in what other readers of SupSup think about it.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Theory: SAL are collecting submergers with the intent to sink Anesidora or a portion of it, or conduct a serious aquatic assault on Matadero ‘Only the second’ implies it’s a long term goal to collect more, and not only in the sense of making escape attempts ‘Reborn into the light’ sounds like they have some big explodey plan in the works

Matt DiMeo

I had a theory that Body Drainer was a prototype skill for stripping unwanted authority from knights that can’t take it anymore.

NameGame

The Kon thing, touching objects with his spell impression. This feels like setting the stage for something in a near future chapter, Kon finding something by doing what he did here. Good chapter, thank you.

Matt DiMeo

I’ve just decided that “Heelfeather” is a fake last name that Winston’s parents helped him legally change to when he got selected. I’m sticking to this theory even if Sleyca comes in and denies it.

Sinnohan

It's difficult to tell with a forget-me power, but the Sway most likely didn't inform the people there about their skill or ask for permission before using it on people in the sub. Someone mentioned that the Sway might be hiding their presence so that they can split from the group when they reach their destination. Another theory is that the Sway could be exerting their power on the passengers simply because they can. On the Sway being Mina: 1) That was not Mina's first time taking the entrance exam. She is most likely as old as Max. 2) Assuming that Mina leveled between exams, she could have secretly picked up a new skill to use to escape Anesidora as plan B for when she couldn't get into hero school. This would make her unable to show her profile to Alden since she can't exactly share the details of her skills with a stranger in front of the people she's actively hiding a skill from.

NameGame

"transfer the invisibility from the temper sphere to his rope." That would be scary for any melee fighters, as well. Consider a brute, all muscles on muscles with muscular muscley muscles, punching him as hard as he can...and finding the invisible fishing line roughly where the middle of his fist swings. They'd punch their own fist into two, and possibly partway up their arm. Good catch with the invisibility. I didn't even consider it.

Sinnohan

I just assumed that they can't make submergers themselves and each new submerger they get allows them to build another submarine for their operations. The reborn in the light line could be the captain just being melodramatic, but it makes me worried about SaL being a cult lead by escaped Sways.

BeheadedMouse

I'll give you one, but seriously, the rest require tin foil hats Alden's grimlin counts as a second consciousness and would be a way to bypass some Artonian casting with the art of perciving in two ways he might have to "eat" Gorgon or at least enough of his authority to get a working grimlin...but whose to say that giving up a huge portion of himself wont change what he is and that the prision they're held in wont reconize them anymore thereby freeing them?

Sinnohan

I'm not sure if it's possible since he currently needs the object he transfers it to to be a similar shape to the one the enchantment was originally on (at least mostly spherical in this case). However, I really want the spell impression to be useful long term since it's probably going to be the only spell impression he ever takes.

Desidia

Do you think it's hard for agents of The Superhumans at Large to infiltrate Anesidora? Reading the comments, there's three theories that I like; 1. A Sway infiltrated Anesidora to recruit and gather magical resources. 2. A Sway is going undercover to bust The Superhumans at Large, using new recruits, magical weapons, and drugs as bait. 3. A Chainer stacked a bunch of the opposite side of an attention-drawing chains. Making people ignore "her".

Dessico

Its not an oversight, that’s exactly why Velras are so disliked. They are hoarding all the good wordchains. Its not that the S ranks don’t need to use them, they quite literally don’t know they exist.

Terrestrial_Biped

We also know Lucille's goals. She wants to be a no-kill city hero, but if she messes up the no-kill part she's switching to rescue only. I don't understand what you were saying about Alden's goals exactly, but I think that if he makes it through school with enough secrets intact he's going to be hired immediately by Chicago. They're apparently so strapped for hometown representation they hired *Sharon*, who has absurdly deleted her own last name. Alden is better. He's already in the public consciousness from multiple major stories. He's an extraordinary story of resilience and survival. He's a hometown boy made good, and he looks good on camera. They'll probably fall over themselves so hard trying to hire him that they won't find out about his unpopular views on unregistereds until too late. As for the "most of you" bit - the various neighborhood guardians and law enforcement personnel on Anesidora are probably all people with hero training; probably lots of the SkySea guard too. Those are less glamorous roles, without the privilege of travel and probably with significantly less money, but they're honest work that some CNH students doubtless end up doing.

Terrestrial_Biped

The Velra who blackmailed Jacob was Hazel. The blackmailer was 1) Orpheus' sister (he only has one, it's Hazel) 2) a girl with brown hair (Hazel has brown hair, and is young enough to be called a girl) 3) conservatively dressed (Hazel favors preppie style) and 4) used a social media drone (Hazel loves hers). So when, a week later, Hazel and Jacob show up together to a party and Jacob looks decidedly uncomfortable the whole time, it seems very likely she extorted him to be there.

BeheadedMouse

@Pamela Huffman I like this theory so much!! Food for thought... He'd be indispensable and treated reverently by the most well respected class in the universe. I doubt they'd burn him out too quickly but Alden would become the richest, most well taken care of rabbit in existence, and they'd probably get him to agree because kibvee will become a knight

Terrestrial_Biped

People are interested in the preferences of others at least partly because predicting and understanding social behavior is a survival skill for a social species. To remain part of the group, our ancestors had to track and navigate the shifting web of social alliances around them. Romantic relationships aren't always the most permanent, but they are often the most intense.

Andrew Tobin

This Patreon app is weird. I keep refreshing, but the odds that a new chapter appears is very low.

Terrestrial_Biped

A speedster being named after Hermes is, indeed, either an extraordinary bit of fortune or some very on-the-nose branding.

Andrew Tobin

I think 1 is most likely, but even more so is that it’s a sway wanting to get out, the captain knows they’re there, but they’re hiding from the other passengers so if the others ever got caught they wouldn’t be identified. That or they just want to be left alone. It does make some sense they’ve been manipulating the others along the way in some small ways though. I wonder if the system assists the police force, or if it’d be up to other wright tools and video infrastructure to find people on the no bueno list? I’d suspect the latter. Leo would probably help if someone asked. If so, then I doubt it would be hard to infiltrate as long as you didn’t draw attention.

Andrew Tobin

People with surnames associated with their occupation isn’t a rare thing - maybe the system is just a fan of nominative determinism?

Andrew Tobin

Yeah, I’m going to go with it’s just easier to smuggle with a submarine, and that’s why they’re so important.

David Burchfield

I don't find it hard to believe that there would be a lot of sympathizers on Anisidora, especially in the lower to mid ranks. Feeling trapped there could build some serious resentment. Also contract to contract communication is basically perfectly secure as far as we know meaning their ability to communicate with each other even over distances and coordinate would be great relative to most real world groups.

John Anastacio

5haun: I enjoyed it. It was fun. I've watched it multiple times and will probably watch it again. About the only real problem I have with Jupiter Rising was Eddie Redmayne's character was really sweaty at the end and I don't like sweaty. I'm a bit Artonan that way.

BeheadedMouse

Wild theory #2 I don't think the Grand witch has the chainer class. She's probably really good at chains but I think she has something that mimics other classes and stumbled on the Artonian word chainer priesthood and decided that was where ahould could build the most power on a universal scale.

David Burchfield

I have always liked the double meaning. Heelfeather for Hermes/Mercury, and Heel as in Heel/Face from wrestling. It is also quite possible he traded into the class in which case it might be intentional either as branding or "destiny" tied to his given name.

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2024-02-09 07:06:48 Anesidora: The Gilded Cage This chapter has certainly hammered home that point for me. The island might be a really nice cage and has some really cool perks but a cage is still a cage. Anesidorans put a lot of effort making the island a home for them but its very easy to see the cracks caused by the injustice of their forced isolation from the rest of the world. It is very telling that almost every island born hero-wantabe wants to become a Hero that allowed then to go off the island. Even if they have to be the entertainment for the masses. Even if it takes years of hard work for the privilege. And they are the lucky ones! The lowest ranks can maybe live in a special zone off the island but the mid ranks? Can't be a Hero at rank C, can't live in the special zones. They are just stuck, forever on the island unless some offworld alien decides they want to grab then from the cage to perform a small magical trick. The worst part of all of this is that the gilded cage is made by humans for humans, and it actively enables and empowers SAL's existence. Cause humans hate being told what to do. Heck, even the Earth System has learned this, hence why it informed Mother to not offer advice to Alden about how to pick his upgrades until he asked her. Cause tend to prefer having choice they make then a choice forced onto them. This gilded cage feels so wrong to me yet I understand why it exists. And I love all the world building that showcases it brick by ugly brick. All while keeping the story away from being Grimdark and keeps it more towards Grimbright at it worst.
2024-02-09 06:44:51 Anesidora: The Gilded Cage This chapter has certainly hammered home that point for me. The island might be a really nice cage and has some really cool perks but a cage is still a cage. Anesidorans put a lot of effort making the island a home for them but its very easy to see the cracks caused by the injustice of their forced isolation from the rest of the world. It is very telling that almost every island born hero-wantabe wants to become a Hero that allowed then to go off the island. Even if they have to be the entertainment for the masses. Even if it takes years of hard work for the privilege. And they are the lucky ones! The lowest ranks can maybe live in a special zone off the island but the mid ranks? Can't be a Hero at rank C, can't live in the special zones. They are just stuck, forever on the island unless some offworld alien decides they want to grab then from the cage to perform a small magical trick. The worst part of all of this is that the gilded cage is made by humans for humans, and it actively enables and empowers SAL's existence. Cause humans hate being told what to do. Heck, even the Earth System has learned this, hence why it informed Mother to not offer advice to Alden about how to pick his upgrades until he asked her. Cause humans tend to be happier with the choice they made verses one that forced onto them. This gilded cage feels so wrong to me yet I understand why it exists. Powerless humans would never feel safe around an unknown, random Avowed. I totally love all the world building that slowly handed out showcases its nature brick by ugly brick. All while keeping the story away from being Grimdark and keeps it more towards Grimbright at it worst.

Anesidora: The Gilded Cage This chapter has certainly hammered home that point for me. The island might be a really nice cage and has some really cool perks but a cage is still a cage. Anesidorans put a lot of effort making the island a home for them but its very easy to see the cracks caused by the injustice of their forced isolation from the rest of the world. It is very telling that almost every island born hero-wantabe wants to become a Hero that allowed then to go off the island. Even if they have to be the entertainment for the masses. Even if it takes years of hard work for the privilege. And they are the lucky ones! The lowest ranks can maybe live in a special zone off the island but the mid ranks? Can't be a Hero at rank C, can't live in the special zones. They are just stuck, forever on the island unless some offworld alien decides they want to grab then from the cage to perform a small magical trick. The worst part of all of this is that the gilded cage is made by humans for humans, and it actively enables and empowers SAL's existence. Cause humans hate being told what to do. Heck, even the Earth System has learned this, hence why it informed Mother to not offer advice to Alden about how to pick his upgrades until he asked her. Cause humans tend to be happier with the choice they made verses one that forced onto them. This gilded cage feels so wrong to me yet I understand why it exists. Powerless humans would never feel safe around an unknown, random Avowed. I totally love all the world building that slowly handed out showcases its nature brick by ugly brick. All while keeping the story away from being Grimdark and keeps it more towards Grimbright at it worst.

David Burchfield

There are arguments to be for either. I think academics on Earth probably had more interesting things to do than reclassify it, and Artonans would not care (they are pretty accepting of cultural norms for their resource worlds). So I am hoping it is, but... the logic for why it got downgraded still applies so who knows. That said regardless most people I know irl still talk about Pluto like its a planet (literally the only people I know who don't are astronomers, and really dedicated space science people, and not even all of them).

John Anastacio

Terrestrial: Alden will be a Rabbit who will spend increasingly more time on the Triplanets fighting chaos, and that's even before he gets outed as a knight. In my opinion, employment as a single-city-bound superhero seems like a luxury he won't be able to afford due to lack of time. He'd be more likely to work in rescue like Fragment. I don't believe he'll make it through uni with his secrets intact. He might not even make it through high school. If and when he becomes a knight, he'll be effectively Artonan in citizenship as well as an Artonan dignitary and be able to go anywhere he pleases when he's not working. Earth might not have any legal way to stop him, even if he doesn't just teleport anywhere he wants. I'm not sure if the role of Artonan dignitary can mesh well with being a superhero who is supposed to work for only one city but nonetheless can go anywhere he pleases. I gather you don't agree with me about the possibility of Alden keeping his secrets into his mid 20s, though. That's fine. In that case, most of my speculation is invalid.

QY

She had Mass Bestowal though. That's a chainer skill.

BeheadedMouse

I think she can mimic other skills. And I know she has more than 1 S rank skill, so maybe she did pick it up eventually, I just don't think she started with it... Like I said, wild theory. Also it might just be that Word Chains are really good at mimicing other avowed poweres and she just knows a shit-ton of chains that make it seem that way, maybe she really did start with chainer. But some of the things she says and does look a lot like other people's abilities

AISHA AHMED

I definitely agree. So far the story has hinted at this but never made it the spotlight. Imagine being apart of this world and then suddenly you're seen as threat to everyone and everything and now youre confined to this one area as a kid. Honeslty its a horror story so Im really glad we get to see Jacob and his story again.

Aspiring Moth

she gets summoned by the Palace of unbreaking, who only summon chainers and can see her profile directly

BeheadedMouse

Another reason he has to get famous, besides his parents spending a boatload of money, could be that he got scouted by som unscrupulous PR agency or hero only agents and is in a bad way with them after they trapped him in a contract.

BeheadedMouse

Is that the truth though? Because of the tattoo Lute can only explain it in a misleading way. Yes, they currently only summon chainers but who's to say only chainers are allowed in the palace of unbreaking?

Aspiring Moth

I wonder if we'll ever see alden as "supervillain" arc where he joins superhumans at large. he has said he won't use his powers to drag innocent people to anesidora, and he has noted the nature of anesidora from his end of American citizenship letter and visitation rights. surely he would be sympathetic to the idea that the "heroes" dragging a 17 year old F rank life shaper away from her friends and family to be imprisoned in the middle of the Pacific are the bad guys

Curtis

I don't think we even need to assume a new ability for Mina. She has an S-rank skill that can "remove distractions" from minds, if she can consider her own presence a distraction then that skill could explain what we see.

Andrew Tobin

You’ve gotta think Alden would really like it - vegetarian, and he is the pickling guy.

Robert Lethiecq

Alden has a lot of things that could/would have a story to tell. Not the least of these being the wizards foot bone.

Francis

Ah I love it when Alden shows off his weirdness. Imagine he had told them about Stu. I can't wait for Alden to explain to his roommates where he is going for his weekend away.. Alden: "Guys, I won't be here this weekend, I am visiting a friend". Lute: "What?? You are staying over at the bunny girls? Why didn't you invite me?" Alden:"Uhm.. this friend stays a bit further away" Hayou: "How much further? Oh wait, Alden, is this about your friend Boe? Did he come back? You know you can't just go outside Anesidora!" Lexi looks at Alden and sees his embarrassment. "Sigh, it is something weird again, right? You are visiting your wizard friend or something ridiculous like that?" Alden just nods. Lute: "Cool, where does he live" Alden: "Artona I.. somewhere around there" Lute:"Dude, I've heard only the oldest families live on the Mother, is your friend important or something" Alden:"...I have to go and pack..."

BeheadedMouse

I have to say, subscribing to this patreon is the best 10 dollars I've spent all month. In fact, if there was a super secret patreon with even just 1 extra chapter I'd gladly pay it again.

Guus van der Borg

'Ground' was vaguely defined as 'fundament that supports life'. I doubt Pluto qualifies as 'Ground'.

Gail

Every time Sleyca brings up space ferns I become more and more certain that the reason Lortch are so obscure is because they ARE space ferns.

payforthat

Gorgon can trade a person's authority for what is basically a wish. Alden has gained at least some of this ability. I also think that the removal of knights affixiations is used to bolster or power the forest and mother. So endgame would be Alden doing the same but without the killing.

Curtis

Two things: 1) Any theory that says "the secret purpose of BOAB is really...." feels flawed. The most admirable part of the skill is its flexibility, skills designed for a singular purpose aren't going to be made flexible. 2) Your Authority is your "you-ness". Sleyca doesn't say it explicitly, but I don't think it's too wrong to equate it with your soul. That's why the affixation is so awful - it's messing with your soul on a fundamental level. Removing the affixation is destroying their soul. I'm not sure its something that we'll see happen to the entirity of someone's affixation. If you want Alden to remove (a small part of) affixations, you should be looking at the Gorgon ability to sacrifice authority for wishes. I suspect that skill might be why they are so keen to keep Gorgon around.

payforthat

Huh.. so Alden could move the active invisibility enchant to the line, then freeze it. So he only needs the enchant to work and hold together for an instant. Since BoaB would then be able to take over. Sounds plausible, nice.

Kim Enteiu

Superhumans at Large is sounding deceptively mind-controlled cult-y & we know that Boe is looking for a group of people in a cult to let them know they are in a cult and possibly mind-controlled as soon as he people-spaces.

Kim Enteiu

I’m assuming Heelfeather had his class bought for him, just like his entire image campaign & super fan base.

Kim Enteiu

Kon would make an absurd criminal investigator if he was able to push back his image reading far enough. Maybe he’ll find out who shoe-pisser is so they can be confronted?

Kim Enteiu

My body-drainer theory was an open-ended affixation that could consume chaos and authority to artificially push the tipping point further away so people could go for longer periods without needing external affixation. BOAB being able to eventually lift affixation is possible, but there are other ways to do the same already known—which is why part of the contract is agreeing to never have the affixation removed.

Kim Enteiu

The sway actually showed Alden their card, then used their power to make him forget, everyone else in class is going along with it to see how long it takes for him to figure it out on his own.

Anon.

I thought that for a bit, but if you notice they are expecting to be going super-slow, so they may still be in range during the Alden and friends boat trip

Marlkaz

My vote for the sway is Mina. I think she is genuinely there in good faith to get away, and she is using her power so she can avoid associating with the (kinda sketchy) group further after it helps her escape. It might also help her avoid prosecution if the attempt fails and the others are caught but she sneaks away. She is S rank with known powers that 1.relax people and 2. "Block distractions from your mind." Blocking herself from your mind seems like a very natural extension, and she was very sad she couldn't get into school. I could definitely see her wanting to get out of Anesidora to try and start life elsewhere after she experienced the way sways are ostracized. I guess the other direction would be an "I am going to infiltrate these bad guys and then reveal their location / bosses to prove myself as a hero" response to not getting in, as a Worm reference plotline next to a Worm reference powerset. But I like the genuine interpretation better because it probably isn't that easy to find SAL unless you've pretty publicly demonstrated a believable wish to leave. There are probably some bad apples in SAL taking advantage of its clandestine nature and the desperation of its super powered membership. Overall though, I think the "we want to go home / be free" vibe means most are genuinely just trying to be superhumans at large and named their organization accordingly, and even most of the ones "fighting the fight" are probably idealists trying to secure a human right to be free. They probably have lots of success stories of lives enormously improved to inspire them; could be Thwarthog is among those.

John D Jones

Maybe it means that Alden will date Jupiter because her final form will be that of a sentient fern.

John D Jones

Maybe Stu'art'h can teach Alden the spell version of Kon's skill to use on Lute's shoes the next time they get... watered.

John D Jones

I admit that even though Alden is on the ace spectrum, I kind of 'ship him with Maricel if only because he himself notes that he had a strong reaction to meeting her. From Chapter 73 "A Busy Morning part 1" [quote] Alden didn’t care how it sounded. He didn’t care that leaping to initiate a friendship with a stranger wasn’t like him at all. It was a pure, visceral reaction—one of the strongest he’d had to another person since arriving back on Earth. Maricel didn’t want to show off. She didn’t want a branding deal. She didn’t want to fit in. She didn’t even want to save people. She just wants to go home. She just wants her family back. She wanted it so desperately, she’d do anything for it. She was willing to walk across a planet. Realistic? Not at all. But even if it wasn’t realistic, something about it felt real. And she’d stood up for him. It might have only fanned the argument…but…yeah. She was cool.[/quote]

John D Jones

It's not so much that As and Ss are already powerful so much as word-chains are pretty difficult for humans to learn. Klein notes that Alden is pretty well "specced" to learn them even if that wasn't really deliberate on Alden's part. Alden speaks Artonan pretty fluently. His hands are specialized for the gestures. Unbeknowst to most, Alden also has the Gremlin to tell him when he's close to using a word-chain. Alden estimates it took him a good 40 hours to learn "Body Assistant." For someone without Alden's advantages, it'd probably take 120-200 hours to master it. That's... call it at least two full months to learn a chain maybe half as useful as "Body Assistant" when they could be spending that time working on their own Skills towards the idea of leveling up.

Anon.

There are probably all sorts of very different dynamics in sports (especially fighting sports) when you have stuff like leveling and magical healing and age extension --- in our world athletes have to retire since their bodies can no longer keep up, but in this setting a successful elite athlete can keep going indefinitely and just keep getting better... which likely puts younger athletes in a tough position unless there are leagues specifically targeting them for novelty --- and escaping from them is probably even harder than it's making majors IRL.

Skull Leader

Alden seems to value people who are authentic. It really doesn't matter who they are, what they believe as long as they are authentic by not putting on an act. Alden's dislike of Hazel, I believe, boils down to her always being in fake mode when talking to him until she snaps and finally Alden got the confirmation that she was hiding her true feelings about him. Go down the list of people that Alden has be friended. Boe, Hannah, Joe, Kibby, Stu, Lute, Haoyu, Maricel and Lexi. All of them are not afraid to be themselves, to say what matters to them. They are not putting on some fake persona to gain approval. Granted I can see Hannah being an edge case here in that we can't be sure how Hannah really is which Alden has show signs of fearing that the Hannah he knows was not the real her. But all signs point to Hannah being genuine in her drive to help people.

maledei

I just want to say as a guy who can't decide between gay and ace, I really appreciate your take on this Sleyca. Especially this is such a refreshing approach: " I'm very interested in writing about different types of friendship, brotherhood, and intimate connection without feeling tied down by romantic conventions...." I still hold a romantic friendship ideal in my heart would love to see how Alden gets to explore this. Even among humans heterosexual romantic relationships were never the end all be all, and we have documented historical examples of this: "examples of formal religious ceremonies in which two men who love each other are solemnly wedded together for life can be found across Europe, throughout classical antiquity and until the end of the middle ages. Such unions of sworn kinship or ritual brotherhood were entered into by kings and aristocrats, by comrades in arms, and by men in all sorts of other social contexts – in the 14th century, Chaucer described sworn brotherhood between merchants, monks, clerks, and even peasant farmers. To “wed” another man in this way was to plight one’s troth, to covenant for life, to express the highest form of love that one person could for another. In that sense, as the classicist James Davidson has pointed out, such “same‑sex weddings are much closer to modern companionate marriages than the heir-centred, family-allying and often family-arranged marriages of former times” So yes, I am looking forward to the sworn kinship of knights Stu'arth and Al'den or whatever form it may take :)

Alex Scriber (edited)

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2024-02-09 18:09:11 "Finlay was gesturing animatedly. “They all slack off on their training when they get old if you ask me. Liu Arielle’s kept up her leveling all this time. She’s going hyperbolic sooner or later. I believe in her. I believe in me! I’m going to get that same skill one day.” I was just thinking about this statement from Finlay. As far as Humans know, the only reliable way to level is to keep pushing the boundaries of your skills. Brutes don't have a lot of useful skills because most of their authority is tied up in foundation points, so does that make leveling harder/slower for Brutes? What about for Avowed whose skills cap out, which almost all of them do? Wouldn't it be harder and harder to level as you cap each skill, and thus close off that method of leveling? Even if you work hard every day, remembering all your skills and using them in real-world situations gets harder and harder as you develop more skills. Eventually you hit a point where more skills just results in overthinking and worse performance. No matter how fast you think. Even, or maybe especially, good heroes will eventually reach a point where leveling slows down, if for no other reason because it takes longer to incorporate each new ability into their existing skillset. Alden thought a hardworking Avowed might level 3-4 times a year. It wouldn't surprise me if that slows down a lot after a decade or two. Especially for people who don't get summoned much, which is most superheroes. As people have repeatedly pointed out, Human governments don't want to hire people who get summoned regularly, so must superheroes must not get summoned often.
2024-02-09 17:57:31 "Finlay was gesturing animatedly. “They all slack off on their training when they get old if you ask me. Liu Arielle’s kept up her leveling all this time. She’s going hyperbolic sooner or later. I believe in her. I believe in me! I’m going to get that same skill one day.” I was just thinking about this statement from Finlay. As far as Humans know, the only reliable way to level is to keep pushing the boundaries of your skills. Brutes don't have a lot of useful skills because most of their authority is tied up in foundation points, so does that make leveling harder/slower for Brutes? What about for Avowed whose skills cap out, which almost all of them do? Wouldn't it be harder and harder to level as you cap each skill, and thus close off that method of leveling? Even if you work hard every day, remembering all your skills and using them in real-world situations gets harder and harder as you develop more skills. Eventually you hit a point where more skills just results in overthinking and worse performance. No matter how fast you think. Even, or maybe especially, good heroes will eventually reach a point where leveling slows down, if for no other reason because it takes longer to incorporate each new ability into their existing skillset. Alden thought a hardworking Avowed might level 3-4 times a year. It wouldn't surprise me if that slows down a lot after a decade or two. Especially for people who don't get summoned much, which is most superheroes. As people have repeatedly pointed out, Human governments don't want to hire people who get summoned regularly, so most superheroes must not get summoned often.

"Finlay was gesturing animatedly. “They all slack off on their training when they get old if you ask me. Liu Arielle’s kept up her leveling all this time. She’s going hyperbolic sooner or later. I believe in her. I believe in me! I’m going to get that same skill one day.” I was just thinking about this statement from Finlay. As far as Humans know, the only reliable way to level is to keep pushing the boundaries of your skills. Brutes don't have a lot of useful skills because most of their authority is tied up in foundation points, so does that make leveling harder/slower for Brutes? What about for Avowed whose skills cap out, which almost all of them do? Wouldn't it be harder and harder to level as you cap each skill, and thus close off that method of leveling? Even if you work hard every day, remembering all your skills and using them in real-world situations gets harder and harder as you develop more skills. Eventually you hit a point where more skills just results in overthinking and worse performance. No matter how fast you think. Even, or maybe especially, good heroes will eventually reach a point where leveling slows down, if for no other reason because it takes longer to incorporate each new ability into their existing skillset. Alden thought a hardworking Avowed might level 3-4 times a year. It wouldn't surprise me if that slows down a lot after a decade or two. Especially for people who don't get summoned much, which is most superheroes. As people have repeatedly pointed out, Human governments don't want to hire people who get summoned regularly, so most superheroes must not get summoned often.

maledei

Is there a juggalino sister community and they exchange their offspring of the wrong gender, by catapult like in Rick and Morty?

Temp One

This has become enough of a meme I don't know if I'd love or hate Alden encountering sentient space ferns in the story. Like the entire encounter I'd be wondering if Alden has any romantic chemistry with the fern, and where we were going with this.

Marlkaz

Makes sense, although leveling is more about exhausting authority in all its forms so it grows stronger rather than specifically skills (Alden's ability to exercise his unbound authority is one of his leveling advantages). The point you make about high-levels having to exhaust a variety of skills to make major progress instead of a single skill (300 aside) might actually make leveling easier for brutes in the long run, depending on whether their foundation points are (processing limits aside) 'uncapped' in the way that the 300 skills are. Since we've arrived at the idea that foundation points use authority to 'tell the universe Winston is allowed to move through it faster,' the authority bound to them can probably get tired doing that and grow from getting tired. I don't know that we've specifically encountered a 'brute exhaustion' concept like "after sprinting at max speed for 2h, Finlay has to go at normal human speed a while until he recovers" but something like one might (should?) exist. Or maybe foundation points are magically designed to pace themselves using physical tiredness, so Finlay can get too tired to go fast anymore, but never actually experiences different physical attributes (like a strength brute might be tired and forced to stop using strength, but is still strong). One more thought / question on capped skills - since their authority can be exhausted, it should be able to get stronger. Would that manifest as new free authority or as deeper authority in the skill (like more casts of a spell impression, but since the level is capped it never becomes more powerful).

Alex Scriber

Kon's skill only goes back a few minutes. It does feel like it could be a setup, but it'd have to be something that happened really recently. All of Alden's secrets are older than that.

Andrew Simpson

Thinking about this chapter, I just want to remark on how ridiculous and unsympathetic Jacob's motivations are. Like I get being a stranger, being in a new place, missing home. I moved around as a kid, I went to college, I get it. But the answer of "join a terrorist organization" is literally never reasonable lmfao. Even Maricel's initial response of "I'm gonna become so strong I can walk between the continents to go home" is less absurd. Irl there are literally millions of kids and young adults that have to leave their lives behind for some reason or another and are put in an unfamiliar environment where they don't feel they belong. Boarding school, college, being moved, even going to a new school, and I'm pretty sure none of them respond by JOINING AN INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Maricel's arc is the normal way to deal with this shit. Even if you never stop missing home, familiarity breeds comfort, and you adapt. It's what humans do. The more I think about the chapter the more I'm convinced Jacob has diagnosably poor impulse control, or is an actual idiot, which is ironic considering he is a wright. Imagine the reason you became a terrorist being: "I'm bad at making friends". And I know he's a kid and impressionable and shit, but it's not like they love bombed him and indoctrinated him. As far as we know, this is strictly transactional decision on his part.

John D Jones

First, we don't know that SAL is a terrorist organization. Granted that historically organizations with an ethos of "We want ours, fuck the rest of ya!" aren't awesome. On the other hand in South Africa (Hi Max!) the African National Congress was considered to be a terrorist organization by many. Maybe Superhumans at Large is resisting stuff that kind of needs to be resisted. Back in the last century in the American South we had "Jim Crow" laws. Things like separate drinking fountains, restaurants, even bathrooms for black people and white people. A black person drinking from a "white" fountain could go be fined, beaten and go to prison for that. For something completely outside their control - the color of their skin. If anything being Avowed might be worse in some ways. At least if you were born black, you had a community in place and knew how things stood. With being Avowed, if you get Selected, your life irrevocably changes (if you follow the law). Aside from maybe visiting times that are few and far between, you basically lose your parents, friends, siblings, culture and you pretty much have to live as an adult. You also get to do that while navigating a pretty unpleasant unofficial "caste system" based, again, on something you can't control. Jacob's a C. So that's three Ranks of people that tend to look at him as "less than." How many 15-17 year old do you know who would do well under those conditions? Alden's doing pretty well because due to his semi-neglectful aunt, he already knew how to take care of himself. I don't really blame Jacob for basically going "Risky or not, even if I can't go back home, I sure as shit don't want to stay here."

Curtis

“That’s because those Brutes are jealous they haven’t reached the point where the System gives you the option.” This is one of those throwaway lines which is actually quite interesting. Liu Arrielle is not (yet) a hyperbole, so whichever skill lets her teleport must be S-rank or lower. And yet, even S-ranks don't have access to it from the start. This implies that a speed brute must have additional criteria (possibly stat related?) or just a robust enough authority (non-system teleportation is generally rougher, and I imagine teleportation powered by a single skill is incredibly rough) to take this skill. Or possibly it requires taking a few different skills first - Febri did say "her last few upgrades". I'm wondering if its possible she needed to take a few other skills first before unlocking the option. This isn't incredibly unusual. But what it means for Alden is it allows his fake profile to make up skills/spell impressions that no one else has, so long as he can justify why you would need Let Me Take Your Luggage first. Like "Let Me Take Your Wordchain" or "Let Me Take Your Spell".

John D Jones

For Skills that can be maxxed, think about a balloon in an iron container being inflated by as asthmatic. The asthmatic blows into it and exhausts himself but each time, the balloon gets closer to being filled. Eventually, the balloon can't expand any more. You can deflate it and reinflate it but it's never going to get bigger than its iron box. What happens then is you Affix another Skill/balloon and start inflating that one.

John D Jones

I doubt that Alden can remove/bear Affixations any more than he could "bear" someone's brain or heart as a "burden." Like, not without killing them in the process. He might be able to bear someone's pain for a time to give them relief. I also suspect that unlike with Enchantments (which seem to be partially transferable) pain probably snaps back to the person to whom it "belongs." So Alden couldn't take a Knight's pain, transfer it to a cat toy and then no more pain. Because if he could, his Skill would never have been available for him to pick because it would have been in constant use by the Knights.

Andrew Simpson

We've heard about them before multiple times, and they are at least an illegal and problematic organization that is disliked by mainstream superhuman AND normal society, but I THINK they have been described as terrorists, but I don't have a quote rn to back that claim up. Also they are literally snuggling controlled reaources across a border right now. If they are a radical civil rights group, that's one thing, but it's not like avowed are victimized. They are forced to live on the island until they can prove they won't hurt people, but F, D and C ranks can get clearance to go be civilians, or live in a different avowed zone that is less restrictive. If you're so worried about the rank system, we know that the highest allowed rank for the south west avowed zone is C. Go there and be top dog. I get that being forced to live somewhere sucks, but it's not permanent, and it's literally the nicest place on earth to be forced to live. It has a full social safety net (including rent, healthcare, food, and education), space magic technology, almost no crime, and tropical weather year round. Besides, I would argue that the fact that he is as unstable and impulsive as he is with access to avowed powers (even stat points can make you super human strong) means he IS a danger to the public, and is kind of proving why him being restricted to the island is a good thing until he grows up and calms down. We also know from mother that it's almost inevitable that in the future superhumans will overthrow the world government and take charge. SAL sounds an awful lot like a supremecy group for those who are already dominant. Not to mention they have "at large" in their name, a term exclusively used to denote ongoing criminal behavior.

payforthat

There are avowed zones in other places on Earth (see chapter 15). Places outside of Anesidora that most avowed can freely live. I say 'most' because they have a max rank allowed, so C and below probably have more options that higher rank individuals. (I cant find the quote for the rank limit, so that one is from memory only)

GryphonKnight

VANDY >Vandy, a couple of the girls said she was hiding in an empty classroom while she called her family and confessed to all her personal failings. Even though she is fictional, I worry about Vandy Her sections of the story often reminds me of my childhood Super serious Vandy being team leader reminds me of the time they elected me to be head of the hospital ward ( because adults always mistook my super seriousness for super maturity ) That went poorly for everyone ( though I did rewrite the hospital rules for resolving roommate disputes ) VANDY'S FRIENDS Hopefully Vandy has a good group of friends looking out for her, maybe Lute one day? Lute reminds me a lot of my friends from the school's print shop I had to drop out of an honors program because of a hospitalization. But my friends in the print shop forged my records so I got an honors diploma and was listed under the honors section of the graduation pamphlet ( heads rolled when this was discovered ) EQUAL GENDER HOBBIES Things really started to drastically improve for younger, super serious me when I discovered equal gender hobbies Voluntary activities that, for multiple reasons, attract an equal NUMBER of males and females ( looking at you Cosplay, RenFest, Anime Movies, Table top gaming, SciFi / Fantasy conventions, etc ) I think Vandy would find Table top gaming to be a lot of fun I highly recommend equal gender hobbies for everyone, especially if you have trouble understanding the opposite gender. You can never have too many platonic friends of any gender Do not look for ways to improve others, look for ways to improve yourself SUPER SUPPORTIVE One of the many reasons I like _Super Supportive_, it seems to attract readers of all genders 🔲

Anonymous

It’s literally apartheid being ripped away from family and friends. They’re not allowed off the island when they prove themselves not to be a risk. They’re only allowed to leave with a valid permit and then under supervision for a short time. If they don’t have family to visit then they’re not allowed that either.

GryphonKnight

Foundation points are a static enchantment so they cannot be exhausted or leveled ( Earth's contract discusses stats from biomancy are just short cuts to exercise and diet ) Brutes are the most common class because they are the least dangerous Avowed for a Wizard, but still can have kids with magic Meisters are the most dangerous class because they are trained to wield anti demon weaponry 🔲

Andrew Simpson

@Culain It is literally not apartheid, and it's kinda fucked to compare it to apartheid. On the most literal level, it's not racial, but also it's not segregation or oppression. At worst, you could describe it as a very long term quarantine. The impetus is that superhumans might be serious dangers to the public, and they aren't wrong. It's not a perfect system, hell i'll go so far as to say it's kind of a bad system, but to call it apartheid or pretend he's in prison is wildly misleading. Also he can infact just go to a different zone. The one in Nevada or Arizona (I forget which state) is c rank and lower and I'm sure is more permissive of civilian interaction. Besides if no one was ever allowed to leave the island, how exactly do people that only have one avowed parent work. Not all of them are the children of heroes or high ranks.

GryphonKnight

Grandwitch frequency takes chain debt from her relatives Which only chainers, and spell casters, have done Unless she's secretly a Knight ( kidding, Alden is the only human Knight ) 🔲

GryphonKnight

The Wizards are the only ones that can prevent unauthorized Avowed from reaching the island And the Wizards do not seem to care Now infiltration of the demon training building is different 🔲

GryphonKnight

BEFORE KIBBY This is before Alden becomes an accidental Knight Joe knows BoAB will automatically "rank up" if Alden follows his advice When BoAB hit Rank 1, the Knights will be notified since this usually requires extensive exposure to the strongest chaos field S Rank Avowed are allowed When the Knights find out Alden has 1 of 300 knight skills they will want to keep him "ranking up" "Rank up" hurts for Avowed ( and is much worse for Knights who also suffer with each affixing ) AFTER KIBBY Now that Alden is an accidental Knight, Alden is a danger to himself ( and if summoned to a chaos incident possibly others ) and requires tutoring from the Knights but after Alden's Earth vacation ( Mother kindly gave him his Knight school supplies ) 🔲

Chris

Ranking up hurts Avowed only if they have an authority sense to feel their authority getting twisted into the shape of the affixation. Alden only gained this sense after getting stuck on Thegund. Pat pat pat. So its after Kibby.

GryphonKnight

It is implied that the footage is officially shared with the other first years ( like a mailing list ) But once you have a copy, you can send it to anyone You get in trouble if you post it world wide 🔲

Zenopath (AEV)

I always wonder if my high school experience was just really boring compared to other people. I honestly can't say anything interesting happened other than one time we got a teacher to explain why he quit being a cop, and regretted it because of how traumatic his reason was. But your high school experience sounds like it should be novelized.

PatienceHoney

Did anyone else picture and operatic trio a la a Puccini grand aria (like Nessun Dorma) for the three ferns in the forest? Just me? Oh...um...okay.

Marlkaz

From chapter 105 (you've grown) There are several ways to get foundation points. 1. The contract modifies you physically, as a gift, but this can be replicated by healers / etc. Clearly not subject to authority exhaustion. 2. The contract enchants you. Probably not subject to authority exhaustion, like the non-exhaustible-because-its-system-powered wardrobe spell impression. 3. Your own affixed authority empowers you. Since Heloisa's authority is doing work every time she throws a cinderblock just like Alden's is when he shields it, it seems like it :should: be exhaustible or at least balanced so that authority-stamina regeneration equals authority-stamina consumption. Brutes are doing a lot of #3.

redhandedjill

How amusing! I always thought of it as the pejorative, where a heel is "a contemptible person...self-centered or untrustworthy." (Meriam-Webster)

Ano Ano

It was mentioned somewhere that upgrades from the system have a kind of conceptual progress track. Speed brutes get better at moving from point a to point b quickly. At first, the easiest way to do that is with foundation points that make them faster and skills that mitigate the problems of going super fast. Eventually it becomes easier for the system to just give people teleportation powers than letting them physically run faster.

Spores

Nah, it works as a metaphor for apartheid or other forms of segregation, but like lots of fiction it distorts it through a lens to let us look at it new- not literal race based segregation but a fictional, magical segregation (which is still based on uncontrollable physiological criteria). You point out in your own example that his options are Anesodora or special local segregated area. Anesedora as a fictional location presents us with a magical island where people are segregated but treated reeeeally nice. Where the fears used to justify segregation are actually for real this time, honest. Where people are stripped of their nationality for political reasons, but look, actually lots of people think those political reasons are cool and good. Even with the cool magic, the living stipend, the hero school, high standard of living... Anesedora is a massive human rights violation. Jacob's reaction is both understandable and justified.

Andrew Tobin

Very interesting thoughts. I think back to how Mother put authority back into strengthening Alden’s base skill, or he had the choice of choosing new aspects. When I think about it in that context, I think the skill level cap limit is completely artificial. You could still get foundation points, because that’s you, not your skill. When it comes to your skill though, I wonder if common people get the option of strengthening their skill or just more aspects, and then they get a subset of choices until they reach their cap - regardless of what the skill could conceivably achieve. That’s the Artonan way of limiting the avowed. After that, the system has them choose another skill. The person isn’t limited, the skills are.

Calico C

There was a mention this chapter that this was an island where they tore down skyscrapers because it wasn’t an efficient use of space. That’s pretty crowded

Andrew Tobin

Jacob is new here, he might not have known much about the people he was getting involved with, and if he did - he might have thought it was worth using them for his own purpose. I also wouldn’t put much into Alden’s conversation with Stuart on the avowed eventually having a tipping point where they take control - that was expected to be generations from “now” and earth seems to be an outlier in how they’ve segregated the powered and unpowered.

Andrew Tobin

Huh. I wonder if he teleport skill is her power or system assisted, like how the wardrobe isn’t available without system access. You’d think it’d have to be hers at that level, right?

Andrew Tobin

I think this shows why it’s good that Vandy is getting her leadership opportunities in school, where she can learn in a lower pressure environment. It does seem like she takes things super serious, and could use some healthy outlets and help with that. I’m not sure how she’d go at dnd though, she sounds like such a rules lawyer 😛. It would be good if she could find a way to loosen up relative to the stakes.

Zenopath (AEV)

Yea I agree with other comments saying that the high school program doesn't teach them because focus is on skill training to level. Torsen says they do offer word chain instruction in uni, but realistically what percent of would be supers have bothered to put points in hand coordination and are fluent in artorian? Maybe agi brutes could do it without spending points, but they wouldn't get much benefit given they already have high physical stats. Remember if super school was actually about fighting super villains or demons, they would already be training Alden how to use a gun...

Marlkaz

Possible! Although I think what makes the 300 special is that they have a magical framework which can grow as needed to contain and make use of limitless authority. Other skills, due to authority-configuration or however you want to describe the skill shape Alden senses with his authority-sense, might simply be structurally unable to contain / wield more than a certain amount of bound authority.

Zenopath (AEV)

The irony is that they can't go home. Jacob may have fled the island, but it's not like he could show up at his parent's house, go to school, and live a normal life. He's a known avowed, he'd immediately get a visit from the local super team and be escorted to the island. He's trading a gilded cage for a life of a fugitive. Maybe that's worth it, as he'll be able to go explore the world, but there's definitely no going back to his old pre-affixation life. If he wanted a normal life, he should never have registered, but he probably didn't think of that until it was too late.

racnor 1

hmm, in that case maybe they should NOT be given a submarine

Andrew Simpson

@spores I hate to debate semantics, but I feel it's important to note that this is also not segregation. Segregation is separating people in their day-to-day activities based on some metric within a society. If the avowed were still in mainstream society but had to go to separate schools or weren't allowed to interact with civvies, then that would be segregation. It's the same with apartheid. Apartheid is dividing up a based in some metric (historically race), and holding one above the rest. But the avowed have their own society, which has a problematic caste system and fucked up social problems, but is not segregated in the way we are talking about.

NameGame

"Winston is nowhere to be found." I wonder if he's off dealing with the feeling of being decapitated. One of the teachers sitting and talking him through it maybe?

Andrew Tobin

He showed up later on the bus. I think he was off licking his wounds, and showed back up in a bit of a sulk. Can’t entirely blame him - I wish I responded to setbacks more positively.

Stylemys

Yeah, but Marion got through hero school and STILL hasn't landed a job off the island. That's why he's teaching. Plus, Cly is a native (presumably Marion too), which means she would have had friends also in the hero exam/school that would have been MUCH more likely to readily trust her and let her demo her (non-lethal) powers on them. A globie Sway only knows the people from Intake, during which Sways are housed and socialized completely separately from all other Classes. They're actively hindered form making those friendly connections with potential hero classmates. Not to mention, Sways are probably the only Class that gets more shunned and stigmatized the higher their rank gets too, which would just compound the problem for Mina.

Zenopath (AEV)

@Andrew Simpson I think it qualifes as segregation. Sure its not race based, and there's less discrimination, and the separate but equal argument applies since they do have higher living standards... But it's still segregation. Any forced relocation into a specific area with the intent to remove a subset population from the rest of the population is segregation. You can even say being a prisoner in general is a form of segregation. But the reasons for the segregation matter. Prisoners are segregated as punishment and public safety. In the apartheid and civil rights era the reasons boiled down to racism and were morally indefensible. But here I would argue that normal humans have a reason to be scared. It feels justified because it only takes a few bad apples with superpowers to do a lot of harm. Sure it sucks that the majority of Avowed are decent people who are being segregated for the safety of normal humans, but just like Airport security making us all suffer because of a few criminals, keeping Avowed separated makes a lot of sense. Is it fair? No but if I lived in that world as a normal human I would want some sense of security from knowing that my neighbors can't kill me or sway me with thier magic powers, because all the scary people have to live somewhere else unless invited. Can parallels be drawn between avowed segregation and the racist ploy of depicting black men as dangerous criminals you wouldn't want to live near? Yes, but black people aren't inherently more dangerous than anyone else, the same can not be said about avowed.

John Anastacio

payforthat - i believe the avowed zones have a max rank of D. C is too powerful for them.

Zenopath (AEV)

I'm ready for the next arc to be some sort of crisis. The Last 60+ Chapters have been about Alden settling in to Avowed life. I think its been interesting, but as fun as all the slice of life has been, my favorite, and I think most readers too, was Moon Thegund. Alden needs another chance to shine beyond "better at MPE than would be expected of his rank and class."

Poiuy

Honestly, I just thought a lot of readers might be young and on the cusp of romance. I remember those days and I was so horny that I could hardly see anything else. I don’t feel that way anymore and it’s no longer my main interest, but that’s where my comment was coming from. I’m kind of just into possibilities now. I try really hard not to impose my expectations onto things. But I do remember very well when my hopes and expectations colored everything I saw.

Zenopath (AEV)

Maybe he was doing damage control? Winston makes more sense when you realize he's basically an aspiring streamer or YouTube influencer, who just got humiliated on what he planned to be his next big video.

Rob

"Jacob's reaction is both understandable and justified.". @spores I agreed with you 100% till this last sentence. Jacob is at the very least helping traffic weapons. The chances no one dies because of actions he facilitated are basically nil. He's not fighting the system he's just doing what he wants without regard for the damage he causes. Selling drugs, smuggling weapons. Putting lives at risk. He's not justified, he would be justified to fight the system. To stand up to it. But he's just going to run and he doesn't care who gets hurt when he does.

Efram Manechiwz

So on a reread I noticed that in the Jacob POV he mention how everything seemed to fall into place after he contacted SAL. Based on that my wild ass theory is that he's being used by the authorities as an unwitting mole and the sway is tagging along to being back whatever information is uncovered about the SAL plans.

Chris

Would be pretty funny if the reason Winston was nowhere to be found was because the teachers had him drug tested as well.

John D Jones

@ Anon They're also expecting to go super deep. The ocean floor is 4 km below the surface (thanks Maricel!). I think it'd be kind of a waste of set-up if Jacob and co. ran into Alden co. right out of the gate. This last bit feels like set-up for later. Maybe Jacob learns what his new buddies are [i]really[/i] sketchy and calls Maricel, who drafts Alden into helping.

Marlkaz

That does seem like another hint. Maybe the fifth (Mina?) smoothed things over for him with S rank sway powers. Going where she wants incognito and possibly influencing people could certainly have made Jacob's path easier. Still undecided if she is just trying to leave or following a riskier "I'm going to prove I can be a hero by busting SAL" plan. Mina is probably a globie - a student points out she likely made poor power choices during her affixation, resulting in her problems at the exam day (globies are more prone to this due to lack of support) and she doesn't have local friends volunteering to be her test partner either. The wright / sway intake groups each have their own building, and she would've been in intake at the same time as Jacob, so she could've joined / infiltrated at that time.

John D Jones

@ Lustratio Manon was "offed" (presumably) in Chapter 121. She was introduced in Chapter 27. What exactly is your definition of "quickly?"

Anonymous

@Rob, as someone mentioned above, we don't know that SAL is a terrorist organization. Plus a submerger is not really a weapon, and I think its hyperbole to say that selling drugs to a really rich person who would be able to get it regardless is putting lives at risk. I think you guys are being way too hard on a kid who had his whole life upended, was separated from literally everyone he knows, was forcibly relocated to somewhere that he clearly did not want to be, and then ended up being blackmailed and (presumably) treated terribly by Hazel and the Velras.

Anonymous

@andrew S it is segregation - the idea that they can go to one of a few enclaves is very much the "Bantu's want to be moved" that went on in South Africa. Are they oppressed once there beyond not being able to leave - no. However it is very clearly another form of apartheid/segregation. A gilded cage is still a cage. They are dividing people based on immutable characteristics they have no control over. Magic when it used to be race. Furthermore they're stripping them of citizenship as well which is abhorrent.

BeheadedMouse

Maybe not a crisis, but a purpose for sure. I feel like we're really close to Alden visiting Stuart's house which has all the makings of epic shenanigans and maybe a focus for his progression.

Christine

So, I have kind of out-there hopes for Alden's skill in the long-term: I think anything Alden preserves could be made invisible. Hear me out - after Alden caught Joe's wizardly fireball, Joe made an off-hand comment, “The fact that your skill was designed to allow for visual effects is amusing.” (ch 37) It's already been theorized in-story that Alden can ~feel~ the objects he is preserving in order to help his human brain adapt to the skill. I think Alden will eventually be able to turn this off, like he did the movement handicap. I posit that the visual component is the same -- it would be discombobulating for a new Avowed not to be able to see/feel the object they are preserving. But this visual is likely just a magical presentation, since preservation preserves against ALL things, including light (probably). If it didn't preserve against light, then cold objects that Alden is holding would heat up from the sun, and a bunch of other things. Anyways, that's my theory. It would probably take Alden a long time to even think of trying this, but I hope he does! In the short term, messing around with invisibility enchantments is still cool. Edit: also, an alternative path to invisibility could be a new preservation pathway. We know that Alden could someday grow his skill to be able to preserve "a Temporal Instant". Why wouldn't it be possible that he could grow it to preserve light? I don't know what form this would take, but it would undoubtedly be awesome. Søren is a light shaper - we already know we have some cool light-physics shenanigans in the story's future!

Matthew D

Why does Finlay say “ and I decided it would be hard to follow along with the System translations and do my best in their gym. ” Is Li Jean in another language ?

Andrew Tobin

I don’t have a reference, but during intake when Alden was talking to Neha I think, about his options(?) it’s mentioned there are several schools, but some of them are in other languages and he’d need to learn them. It makes sense when Anesidora is an island of people from all over earth.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Makes sense that there are areas that use Chinese as their primary language, people from Anesidora are from all over the world and China has a big population Now that I think about it I’m surprised there aren’t more Chinese and Indian people around Maybe they have their own isolated communities, I wouldn’t be surprised if having a larger number amount of Avowed gave them the political capital to carve out their own space on Anesidora when it was first being founded. But then maybe it would have been mentioned earlier in the story, and intake sounds like everyone goes through it so idk

BeheadedMouse

@Super Super Supportive Supporter That's an interesting thing to think about! Would the Chinese population there be what it is today? They met the Artonians in like the 50's, I'm not a huge history buff, but some of the childbirth laws there were later than that. Maybe they have a wayyy bigger population without the 1 child per family law that came out. Makes me curious 🧐

rutjumper

Chap 67 when Alden is talking to Neha “I assume you would want Celena North's feeder high school?” she said. “Unless you’re ready to jump up to college, and I don’t recommend that. The college and high school hero courses are well connected anyway, and for that kind of program in particular it’s better to stick with Avowed of your own age group. Especially if you’re weaker than them.” “I wouldn’t mind going to the other schools. It’s just nice that Celena North classes are mostly in English. Subtitles are fine, but…you know.” She nodded. “Hard to deal with. Especially when you’ve got groups talking over each other. Or when speed or nuance is important.

Temp One

Unless it's changed, I'm pretty sure Sleyca wants a character development driven story. Not a conflict driven one.

John D Jones

@ Michael Maybe it was all an act but given what we saw of Mina, it's hard to imagine her being smooth enough to smooth over anything. I mean, if she's the fifth person, it's probably her just radiating mind waves of "imnothereimnothereimnothere" at the whole room.

John D Jones

Alden's got plenty of potential conflicts. They're just not "I must save the super-multiverse from Not-Voldemort!" conflicts.

John D Jones

They're not going to do that (unless somehow his "random drugs test" was right that second). Winston was moving and using his powers in pretty much the same way he always was. Alden was moving differently and noticeably better and more efficiently. Even then the test for Alden was optional and only suggested as a way to quash any rumors.

FruitsPunchSamurai

I disagree. Sure, he’s somewhat supporting a shady organisation and joining it would probably be fucked. But what choices do avowed actually have if they want to live a normal, non reclusive life illegally? Even if Jacob took the system route and got yeeted somewhere on Earth after being summened, he’d be alone and could never live in a legal community. What I’m saying is, the governments are forcing people to use illegal means if they want to live away from these avowed prison societies. The term is a bit politically loaded right now but ignoring the real life implications, anesidora is literally an open air prison. And the thing is, trying to escape a prison is usually not even illegal in our world. TlDR: Jacob isn’t in the wrong for trying to escape. And since there is no way for him to live in normal society, he isn’t in the wrong for living in some illegal society. It’s the governments who cause this mess.

Aspiring Moth

the skill cap isn't artificial. reread the conversation between Joe and Alden where he explains that bearer of all burdens is uncapped. skills max out because they've finished growing. low level skills are like seeds that need to grow into their final intended form, but once they reach that size they become sealed. the original 300 are specially designed to be infinitely expandable, like a recursive pattern

Francis

In my high school we had quite a few attempted suicides. Usually those kids had parents who applied a lot of pressure and expectations. I can totally see this happening on Anesidora

Francis

I agree with Culain and John. It's semantics. I'm South African, so I immediately think of the nuances which makes Anesidora a bit different from apartheid, but Culain's main argument stands that it is definitely violating human rights to take children away from their parents and basically forcibly deport them. At least they should give the option of letting the families go with the teenager. Jacob is just being a dumb teenager. teenagers are experts at landing themselves into dangerous situations without having thought it through properly

Francis

I agree with Moth. The skills are like computer games. Sure you can discover glitches or secrets and do better than others with the same game, but you are still restricted by the game mechanics. You can't do open world exploring in a platform game. And there is a beginning and end. At a certain point you finished the game's content and have to start a new one. The 300 is more like minecraft or WoW or something, almost infinite possibilities

Francis

It is magical 😂 but seriously, if they go down the Trench, no one is going to find them

Francis

I like the first part! But I don't think he would have to eat Gorgon 😂

Francis

I went to look on RR at the comments.. and all I can say is thank goodness I can afford Patreon

Gorane

I think it is worth adding to the discussion this bit from ch 93: Gilbert had the non-Avowed notification under his name tag, and he’d told Alden that he and his D-rank wife had decided to leave behind an Avowed zone in Australia and move here to Anesidora for the “big city lifestyle.”

Ano Ano

We have actually seen significant Indian and Chinese cultural presence on the island. The fireworks were for Diwali, right? And there was a neighborhood where everything was written in Chinese.

John D Jones

@ Gryphon I hope the next chapter is Alden, Haoyu, Lexi and Vandy in the boat doing the Matadero thing because we need some Vandy face time. Vandy wasn't really the leader of her team because the only one who followed her instructions was Max and he was deliberately following everyone's instructions.

Zenopath (AEV)

I'm not asking for save the world, I'm just saying, things have been going well for Alden for 60 chapters (after he recovered from affixation), the most stress he's been under is that one time his classmate put him to sleep a couple times during class and when a mean girl yelled at him. I think a little more overcoming adversity might be fun to read for a change.

Zenopath (AEV)

I think that if the system were a little more ethical, and did not allow Sways or Sway-like powers, then the avowed should not be segregated. Yes a brute can punch you and you die, but that's a crime he's not likely to get away with. A hidden sway is a lot more dangerous. Also the uniques seem to have a decent chance of having something awful, like that Body Drainer, or Boe's powerset. And they aren't even abilities that they chose for themselves. Also, you would have problems with the use of alcohol, do you prohibit only avowed from drinking? Good luck enforcing that outside of a strictly controlled island. Does the whole world ban alcohol to prevent the chaos drunk avowed could cause? Or do you just tolerate the constant deaths that would cause like we tolerate drunk driving?

Robert Lethiecq

I have been thinking about the progression that Alden has made since his skill assessment day. In particular the removal of the carriage rule, the ability to catch physical ranged attacks, his increased awareness of his entruster and entrusted objects through his skill authority, the wordchain for “my body is my assistant”, and his increasing skill with rope and cords among other things. All told, it has been a very short time since assessment day. Perhaps a month. If this current Alden had been in play on that day, I can see his duel with the air shaper and Reinhard going differently and his performance in the rescue exercise also being different. I suspect his duel with Finley would’ve had a similar outcome still. I don’t imagine that Reinhard would have hit Alden as easily and it’s possible that Alden may have been able to return some arrows. I know Reinhard has a summon back arrows skill but I don’t think he would be able to use it if the arrow was shielded at the time. It would all be timing which would be impeccable with the wordchain in use. I also think the fights that he lost in the rescue mission would have been very different. Lexi would have still been a struggle but the earth shaper and his fight with Heloisa would have been much more interesting had he been able to return the concrete or sandbags. The staff review conversation might have been a little different too. It really is interesting to see how much has changed in so little in-story time with regard to his progress.

Ano Ano

The Anesidora situation is literally apartheid, and the Avowed are literally slaves. (Gorgon describes Alden as Artonan property and his response is, it's true but you shouldn't say it.) Of course Avowed are materially much more powerful and wealthy than any real life historical incidence of slaves or forcibly relocated people. I think that's part of what makes the story interesting. There is an underlying injustice, but is not identical to a real life example 99.9 percent of readers would agree is morally unacceptable. It allows for characters and readers to engage with the dynamics and really think about it.

Benjamin Collins

With aldins ability to catch objects with there momentum I imagine he'll take out s rank meisters pretty easy as is and he'll be able to trip up speedsters and he could prolly captcher shaper thrown objects so he's pretty good there too, I mean he's squishy and has a whole bunch of holes in his abilities but as is I bet there's a way he could take most s ranks down right now as is by using there own power against them

Josh Brooks

Finally finished binging through the series! Worth the Patreon support for sure. I think this series made me love slice of life’s if only because it feels like the author is telling a story vastly higher in quality and care than anything I’ve read in a while. Like the Chainer pentology was I think the best set of chapters I could imagine being written. Everytime I see the author’s note about being excited for a chapter, I need to buckle in. A friend of mine got me on RR after introducing me to a different web novel. I think recommending this to them is the easiest thing I’ve done for another lover of good fiction.

Anonymous

I’ve been thinking about this as well, my bet is that the demon fight that happens every year without a hitch isn’t going to go as planned…

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Someone in the comments said something about having so many kids, and I can’t find their comment but I wanna show them this from chapter 70: “My Instructors say that humans built Anesidora for breeding purposes,” Stuart said casually. Alden narrowly avoided spitting out his water. Of course the talk goes there right off the bat. “Um…everyone knows that’s part of it. Even if it isn’t polite to say it like that. I think a lot of humans would like more Avowed because it increases the amount of attention we receive from the Triplanets? It’s good for the global economy and our position among the resource worlds. And the Avowed here want more Avowed, too, because it makes Anesidora more politically powerful.”

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Ikr? It really helps that the slice of life parts of the story actually feel impactful and have meaningful implications, it’s really well executed and I can’t find any other story that even comes close

SFGuru

So - I've just reread this chapter - and when Astrid was joking about Haoyu being a supervillain on the bus it got me thinking, why wouldn't a 'supervillain' try and sneak into the school? Think about it - we know from this chapter that there is at least one organised movement out there (and there may be others). We know avowed are very likely to have powered children - that applies to the unregistered as well as Anesidorans. So they could plan for when one of their kids gets powers... and if they are regularly smuggling people/goods then getting 1 or 2 (or more!) people high up in the hero ranks would be really useful to them. Maybe Winston is an actual supervillain after all ;-)

SFGuru

The other kid in the group that springs to mind is Max. One ordinary and one powered parent must make the restrictions even more frustrating. (or Jeffy!) Maybe he put all his points into processing and is just pretending to be dumb. His land moves were way more effective than anyone was expecting...

Mehmet ali Reyhan

That'd be hard one of the main reason avowed are a thing is because skills are giganticly huge spells and always better than the spells at the same rank and joe of all people can't replicate every preservation aspect of let me carry your luggage in it's B rank form

Josh Brooks

Yes! They are so impactful! I gush over every small detail about all of these little guys. Getting a whole side story that is as rich as chapters 1-6 did like fiction Christmas

Matthew D

I'd like to see Alden receive Marsha's attack as: Alden: "Oh thanks Marsha, for giving me your polearm." before he flips it around and throws it back in her face!

Kim Enteiu

We shouldn’t have to wait too long until battles start up in earnest. There have been hints that he might not have kept his secrets as well as he was trying to. And interest in exactly what happened to him had gone so far up now that people realize that exactly what that means.

John D Jones

@ SFGuru First, "supervillains" in the classic sense aren't really a thing in this setting. There are certainly people who become Avowed and use their abilities in unethical or even criminal ways (Hi to your dead ass, Manon). Joe apparently employed some of them back when he had summoning privileges. You've got folks like Body Drainer who just... apparently lost his shit and went on a killing spree. You also have folks like the SLA who are willing to commit crimes to support/oppose certain political agendas. But you don't have, like, the Legion of Doom or the Masters of Evil or crap like that. Beyond that you've got "Why would some kid try to "infiltrate" Celena North? I mean, if they're a kid with a good Rank and power set... why not just... go there straight up? What benefit would they derive from "sneaking in?" What risks would they take? That's easier because figure the Hero Prep school are taught by active, powerful, experienced super-heroes that know their shit backward and forward so infiltrators are very likely to get caught. That said, while he's not a "super-villain" we kind of do have someone who has "infiltrated" Celena North's Hero Program under false pretenses and is hiding extremely important secrets. That would be Alden himself

Mad

I’ve been thinking about the Mother chapters, and I feel that She didn’t seem to care much for secrets or privacy. She shared a rather intimate memory of Stuart (I’m thinking of when he is crying after his sister got ritually murdered specifically), and also divulged the Primary’s plans for Alden (which, granted, are rather inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, so it’s not a huge secret, but it’s still the Primary). What I’m trying to get at is that, while Mother clearly wants to help Alden stay quiet for a while, I wouldn’t be surprised if She revealed Alden’s secret to Alis Art’h (aka Mother’s favored daughter) after she returns from Thegund. Because she is involved and from my impression, the Quaternary would probably go along with Mother and keep Alden’s secret for a time? Whereas the Primary gave the impression that if he knew Alden had an authority sense (and Avowed Skill 112), he would teleport him to Knight Rapport to make him choose between taking some oaths or having his life severed. We still don’t know much about the knights though, so it’s hard to predict how they would react. Oh and She might try to balance her secret sharing by showing a traumatic memory of Alden to Stuart when he affixes (now that’s just me daydreaming, I don’t see why She would do that)

Felix

@John D Jones I don't know about there being no classical supervillains. "Superhumans At Large" sounds very much like a supervillian organisation. Something in the likes of "Brotherhood of Mutants" from X-Men. After all their goals don't need to be completely nonsensical to be supervillians. For example Mr. Freeze is a supervillian and he just wants to save his wife. As long as they have superpowers and comit crime they are supervillians. And besides, knowing humans, as soon as people start getting superpowers there will be people in cosplay running around commiting crime. It's just too much of a power fantasy.

John D Jones

@ Robert Lethiecq One big reason that Alden has managed to unlock those abilities is that he is in Celena North's Hero Program. He's in a safe environment so he can stretch his abilities and experiment without potentially risking death for himself and Kibby.

John D Jones

@ Calico C Japan is relatively close to Asia and the Asian continental shelf. Point Nemo is very much not. The approximate depth of the ocean there is 13,000 feet. AKA 2.5 miles. AKA a little over 4 kilometers (Thanks again, Maricel!). Figure when Anesidora was "made" it required the efforts of ground shapers, Aqua-based folks and probably a shit-ton of help from the Artonans. Ever watch the History channel show, "Drain the Oceans?" If you "drained" the ocean around Anesidora, you'd probably see the island supported by something that resembled a really thick tree trunk made of rock. Where the water used to be near the island it would gradually slope until it got to a certain point and then it would be a nearly straight drop 13,000 feet or so to the former ocean bed. The upshot of all that is that making more "space" on Anesidora is extremely difficult and expensive, so it's probably not going to be done until it's shown that it absolutely needs to be done.

Partha Peddi

While reading Chapter 78, where Kon repairs Alden's umbrella while uttering dolphin sounding Artonan words, I realized something. With sufficient unbound authority, it is possible for Alden to record and learn other ppl spells.. maybe F rank ones first, and going up from there. He might get vocal enhancements to speak Artonan words just for the spells, if he finds one that complements his skills a lot.

John Anastacio

Mother clearly wanted Alden and Stu to become friends, I think more for Stu's benefit than for Alden's. Stu seemed so isolated and Alden is good at empathizing with and connecting with lonesome weirdos. I can think of 2 reasons Mother would show Stu a traumatic memory of Alden's - if Alden himself asked her to do it, or if it would help bind Stu to Alden. Alden clearly became much more sympathetic to Stu after he saw Sina's death, and showing Stu Alden's own worst memory might help to reciprocate.

Partha Peddi

btw, I may have missed it, but was there an official status of Hannah while she did not return? Alden had 2 status updates. What if Hannah decided to help another knight with their work and stayed back on a long term assignment in a remote location similar to moon Thegund that has no system? Knight Alis-art'h with her Avoved team is in a similar situation as well.

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

I am torn. The idea of Stu seeing a traumatic Alden memory is interesting, but such a scene definitely has the potential to make me cry. I picture Stu watching out of context as this poor little human child gets caught in an explosion, crying out for his parents as they lie dead in the next room. Seeing a third person perspective of that scene would just amplify the emotional resonance, I think. That being said, it does not seem too likely this would actually happen. For one thing, I am not sure Mother would even have access to a full replay of that incident. Stu's situation took place within her domain, so it makes sense that she would have a full record of it. Alden, on the other hand, is from Earth, so the only access Mother would have to his life is through his memories, or by interfacing with Earth's Contract.

Alex Anderson

Considering that Alden has signed the Contract, no need for the Primary to kill him at all. Just hire him for an extended period, can’t be refused.

Terrestrial_Biped

There were no status updates on Hannah whatsoever. If she *decided* to voluntarily go on some out-of-contact mission, she would have known something like the expected duration and that she *would* be out-of-contact. She would have forewarned her loved ones of that much, even if all the other details were under secrecy contracts.

Anonymous

I don't think there is an official status, didn't they have the funeral after a period of time with no news, and when Alden asked the Earth system - the system refused to answer.

Terrestrial_Biped

I agree spell mimicry can eventually become a source of power for Alden, but he has a ways to go before he can get there. Remember, just copying the gestures and vocalizations of a spell is not enough. All spells additionally require some kind of authority manipulation. Alden's ability to sense others' authority is still weak, short-range, and low resolution. He'll doubtless improve on all those metrics as time goes on, but right now I don't think he has a prayer of copying spells off anyone but the most cooperative test subject. Many spells also have cognitive requirements (chants, for example, often have one line said aloud and another recited in thought, and both must be simultaneously *meant*); those are not detectable at all, and so cannot be copied.

Partha Peddi

Remember, Hannah was paying for Alden's teleport trips, which made her eat ramen and was strapped for cash. What if she could not pay for the connection fee to send a message about her long deployment to anyone back on earth? She had a job working in Jakarta, but maybe she didn't have enough funds.. and the mission was paying well (in her mind) to take care of future teleports for Alden.

Terrestrial_Biped

@Curtis: I think there are skills that are too big to be entry-level skills for their rank, but smaller than is typical for the next tier up, and Liu's teleportation is in that vein. This seems potentially particularly applicable for S-ranks, since no human has started at rank 1. The System may not have a set of rank 1 "starter skills" prepared. Recall that sometimes, extra-young/extra-strong Ss get "special offers" of uncommon paths from the System. (Kon might be an example of this phenomenon.) Those uncommon paths might BE uncommon because most Ss don't have enough power to affix them. I think the teleportation is one of the things that might theoretically get offered to someone above S baseline. But there's also a possibility that this self-teleportation skill has some kind of wear and tear effect on Avowed, like Joe said the teleports to Thegund would have on Alden. Maybe they *need* to be a leveled-up S to have enough heft to withstand the wear.

Terrestrial_Biped

@Andrew: The vast majority of skills have to be powered by the Avowed themselves. Remember, the nominal goal here is to make warriors who can fight chaos - which means being able to fight while under an unreliable Contract, or even with no Contract at all. The Wardrobe is literally a shop, even if it's a magical shop for magical things. Of course it makes sense that you can't buy from the shop if you can't contact the shop? And while dear Alden could mentally justify wardrobe gear to himself as armor, that's not the intended purpose. The Wardrobe isn't for frontline fighters to re-up their gear. It's for domestic help to buy domestic help uniforms. I guess you're probably getting hung up on this because you're comparing against the teleports Alden did on the berry picking job, but Liu has *short range* teleports specifically. That description implies to me less than a mile's distance, and probably much shorter. The image in my head is the kind of short-range, spammable jaunt you could use to unexpectedly show up in an enemy's blind spot. My guess would be that it's self-only, and that under the hood there are a LOT of qualitative and quantitative differences compared to interdimensional teleports.

Benjamin Collins

I don't understand why ppl keep lumping kibby in with aldin as far as I'm aware they won't even see each other again for like another 1k chapters since it'll be years before she can summon him or make a visit to earth

BeheadedMouse

Im tryig to remember, what was the actual system given status verbatim? Because if I remember correctly she's still "on mission" and they just held the funeral because no one stays gone that long if they can help it. I suppose she could have learned something sketch about the island and asked to be teleported to another place on earth... I'm going to go back and see if I can't find the actual words used to explain her status.

AC

I think the reflection on whether you can exaust the foundation points is interesting, mostly for the implications. Are the points "finished" or are they like the 300 skills? If you keep exercising yout strenght point will the authority bound to it spontaneusly grows intro another point? Or do all single points count as finished skills and each new point is a new skill?

AC

English isn't my first language and the first time he appeared I thought it was a native american name

AC

He can read only 5 minutes in the past atm thought, right? It would take a really lucky coincidence to stumble into something secret.

David Burchfield

Just reread the Chainer Arc, I think I figured part of Lutes second skills name out. I think it involves Coda somehow (it had a musical name even if it didn't do a musical thing). A Coda is sort of the end segment of a song or poem, sometimes it repeats elements of the beginning other times it has a different but complementary tone. I think his skill changes the tail ends of wordchains somehow (maybe the other half, maybe just the ending time slot, maybe it lets you end them early.). It is Sparce evidence (the title and the musical allusion, which made perfect sense on its own). But it feels right. Any thoughts (I feel a lot more confident in the name than the effect).

AC

If it was possibile the knights would be doing it themselves since they have access to the skill and given that there are considerably more knights than special skills, there is likely more than one knight with it. Alden's inheritance from Gorgon is a more likely option for that, but we will have to see if it is viable.

Andrew Tobin

The message was something about being lost on a mission. I think it was in Slyeca’s q&a that if there was more to know, then Gloom would probably know it. If Hannah was lost on a chaos world for years it’d be a gruesome fate, and everyone trusts that she truly died. Personally, I do hope for a sunshine and rainbows ending, but I don’t expect it. She wouldn’t have put family and friends thru years of misery. And I don’t think she would have done a mission for money, no matter how many teleports she could have gotten Alden. It would have meant more to her to have a purpose.

Kate Yen

Predictions? Not sure where we'll go from here. Jacob's escape (and potential complications) could portend the start of a dramatic new arc, or it could be the last we hear of him for a while. Otherwise, we're not expecting much that's concrete. Visiting Stuart is still about a month away, so if there aren't Matadero shenanigans then I'd expect more wordchain practice, magic training, and gym. Of course, the fact that there isn't much to go off of just means there's a surprise coming! Even if it's a fairly mundane surprise. Part of what I love about soup is that the quiet moments are often just as wonderfully unique and exciting as the high-energy stuff.

Zenopath (AEV)

A new arc is starting, I'm not sure what it will be about, but I predict we might see a few weeks time skip and Alden will be getting ready to visit Stuart.

Andrew Tobin

I’d be shocked to see any time skips before Christmas. We have sailing this weekend, maybe, Matedoro, maybe, the visit to Stuart, then Christmas (where I anticipate much Jupiter tree and mistletoe frivolity), end of this term testing out of classes, and then after New Year we have start of the new term with official class starts, instead of these mid-term classes.

Barrett Fogarty

It has been just less than three weeks. It takes him about a week to learn an auriad skill and 2 weeks for a wordchain

Aspiring Moth

yeah I can't see any time skips. next week is the start of sparring in class, and the return of big snake if he manages to dodge the 50 death flags he planted. we have the knights inviting Alden to the demon fighting site. we have a call with stu-art'h next Monday, which may even overlap with gym time. talking to Jacob, boe climbing out of a cat, the rabbit girls visiting the huntski lodge etc. these are events that will happen in the short term, probably the next week or two. there are too many active plot threads to time skip

Zenopath (AEV)

I think we need a change of pace, too much time spent in the gym. But you guys are probably right, they will do the duels maybe. I just have a hard time envisioning how the duels will be interesting.

Anonymous

You guys probably remember Alden's schedule better than he does

Calum Donaldson

This is definitely true, but they also have really good free healthcare, and everyone has a stipend from being Avowed (basically UBI) so a lot of the reasons people don't have children (money, healthcare, time, etc..) just aren't problems on Anesidota

David

I would be rather shocked if Alis Art’h didn’t know, at least, that he had developed an authority sense. He spent over a day with a destabilized skill, keeping it from falling apart by reinforcing it with his free authority. Only wizards could do that. She knew about the auriad he had on him. How could the fourth best knight not sense it was his with her authority sense? It’s literally part of him, so it must be connected in some way. She should be able to trace that connection. I also suspect she knows about his skill. If a B rank rabbit does an impossible rescue on an inhospitable and abandoned moon, wouldn’t you look into that? All she had to do was look at his profile and check his skill list. Pretending she didn’t know was just another loving lie. After all, she expected him to die

Marlkaz

On the one hand, it's hard to involve Alden much in the Voyage of Jacob and the Shadynauts and only Jacob was explicitly named, so they could indeed 'fade like shadows' until much later. Despite that, I think we'll get at least a bit more of Jacob - there was enough setup around their departure, and it offers a break from 'normal school life.' My personal guess for the next chapter is a Mina PoV explaining how she ended up there, heroically / desperately / tragically. The group didn't have any explicit intention of messing with Matadero, but they get close to it while fleeing, and Jacob and maybe another middle-low rank are overwhelmed by the corruption and demonize, leading to a wider corruption event forcing Alden to use his power to protect low ranks like Emilija and battle minor demons with his hero-in-training friends during a temporary evacuation until control is restored.

GryphonKnight

Maybe it is Mass Coda ( multiple targets ) and makes the negative half take 2x as long, but only 50% of the negative effects This would be vey useful in a chaos field when the randomness makes ( on duty / off duty ) shift management harder 🔲

Alex Anderson

I also didn’t rebut the privacy - it is something that happened during a public-to-knights ceremony. It’s private but not secret. And mother DID stop sharing the words that the instructor was telling Stuart. It was toeing the line, but inside the line.

Andrew Simpson

🤷‍♂️ I am obviously in the minority. I am not defending the avowed system, but I don't think it's apartheid, I don't think it's segregation, and I don't think it's like relocating natives to exploitative reservations. It sucks, sure, but in my mind it's more akin to quarantine. I think the fact that the avowed have more opportunity, better living conditions, and a higher quality of life than probably literally any other population on earth counts for a lot. Being forced to move sucks, being taken away from your family sucks, but where you are taken, why you are taken, and the quality of life present in the place you are taken matters *enormously* when discussing the ethics. Enough so that I think there is a categorical difference between being forced to live in the nicest, safest, most privileged city on earth, and being forced to live in a ghetto, a slum, a shanty town, a concentration camp, or a reservation. I've heard all your arguments, but like I said, I am in the minority and I don't wanna drag this conversation out into the next week. Thanks for responding guys.

GryphonKnight

Jeffy also wakes up early like many farmers ( Nature waits for no man, only Wizards ) 🔲

Super Super Supportive Supporter

I vote for ‘hanging out with classmates after dinner’ followed by ‘hanging out with Lute and the girls’ followed by ‘Matadero-related cliffhanger that could be the knights, Haoyu’s parents, or Jacob-related’

GryphonKnight

The local Contract handles teleports and communication If the local Contract is down for maintenance, Hannah could be fine just out of touch Same if she is on a ( spaceship / chaos based research facility / integrating a new world ) out of range of a Contract 🔲

Marlkaz

The contract does explicitly say "Alis ... didn’t realize you were in the process of making yourself so unique. If she had known, she would have wanted me to spare a bit more of my efforts for you. So I shall."

David Burchfield

Most likely new Arc. (Perhaps the Stuart visit) Outside chance the escape boat is slow, it's magic messes with Matadero somehow, just as the kids are out on Lexis boat and it kicks off another chaos/disaster/survival incident.

Kettle

My prediction is that the other world’s Avowed will invade and challenge all of the Earth’s Avowed to a martial arts tournament for rulership of the planet. Then Alden will use his power to stop time for himself and train for 10 years to become an S-Rank. 😁

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

@Kettle, lol. No, an inexplicable chaos event will sweep over planet Earth, wiping out ninety percent of the population. When Alden discovers that it is the Artonans' fault, he will be killed to cover up the secret. He will then wake up ten years in the past and have to use his knowledge from the future to rewrite history and save the world.

Anonymous

Lol, timeloop supsup would be insane, someone write this fanfic

Kserand

@Lauren My god, it all make sense now... He will then go on to free Gorgon and form new anti Artonan chaos demon coalition. In the process - learn true authority control without interference from the system. As it turns out Alden was part demon all along.

redhandedjill

Tough to say. I just checked, and there are 15 pages of comments on the last chapter.

Aspiring Moth

I just remembered that on Alden's profile it specifies that let me take your luggage is (single object, total), at least on the fake profile. the single object restriction is gone (but is too taxing to practically use at this level), so does this imply that there will be a partial protection option? something that would allow objects to retain flexibility while still reducing forces going through them perhaps? or preserving them against one type of damage but not others?

Kettle

@Lauren, of course! Alden unknowingly feeds all of his Authority to the gremlin in exchange for his dying wish: “If only those damned Artonans had warned us. I wish I knew about this before I affixed. I would have done so many things differently…”

Bob Ross

The way I interpreted the distinction of (total), was to separate it from the partial protection he provides to enchantments, quoted below. [ Skill Type: item preservation (total) enchantment preservation (end results vary)] Alden speculated that maybe a wizard could target an enhancement he was bearing, but now I'm wondering if that's a clue for what's happening when he moves the enchantment from the temper sphere to the ball. Maybe when he lifted the enchantment from the Temper Sphere, he only preserved a portion of it, the rest evaporating into the background Authorasfield? Or maybe the ball of yarn was just an imperfect vessel, and aldens preservation of the enchantment was also total. Can't wait to find out!

SnuggleCat

Man, I love this patreons comment sections. Feels like being part of a book club.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Much better than a book club because social pressures are lowered, obnoxious people have less opportunity to be obnoxious, the entry fee ensures people are serious about it, and everyone absolutely loves and chooses the same book every session (I’ve had some bad book clubs before)

Super Super Supportive Supporter

I wonder how adaptive and thorough the lie is? Like if the principal accidentally catches Alden preserving two objects does the word ‘single object’ change to ‘multiple objects’ immediately on everyone’s screen if someone happened to be looking at it right that second? What if someone took a screenshot, does the system go in and edit the picture just in case? Since knowledge that the system can lie to the extent of fake profiles would actually be pretty expensive in the long run I think

Bob Ross

@SQuad, that's a great question, definitely makes you wonder what it considers a lie. For what it's worth though, the real profile doesn't say multiple items, it just doesn't say single item only, so maybe it just keeps track of when Alden shows off that ability and adjusts accordingly? Also, good question about screenshots, I wonder if system screenshots are a thing. Along with system selfies!

Super Super Supportive Supporter

I feel it might not be the name of the skill, just a bit of title-related flair on Sleyca’s part since the other parts were The Chainer, V and the last one was The Chainer, coda It would be pretty cool though I went back to the chapter to see if there were any clues: ‘Eventually, he decided he liked the third skill from the bottom. It had a musical name even if it didn’t do a musical thing. It seemed like the titling was more of an artistic nod to the fact that wordchains could sound quite musical or, if a couple of the other skill descriptions were anything to go by, be performed in time to music.’ It’s also a fairly useless skill since it’s third from the bottom My first thought was ‘gives you intuition on how to perform Mass Bestowal but in time to music’ but then it says ‘doesn’t do a musical thing’ so probably not My second guess is that the skill is named something like ‘Harmonization’ allowing you to perform a wordchain at the same time as someone else, and the benefits of both wordchains get blended together for both of you, maybe with a bonus effect. I like this theory because it allows for future synergy with Alden I don’t have a third guess

Aspiring Moth

I suspect something like this will happen big snake throws tennis balls at in the zone + my body becomes my assistant empowered Alden. He preserves and returns two at once. Big snake comments on this to Alden, saying he suspects an imminent level up due to the skill surpassing the limits set on the profile. Alden goes home and asks the system to give him a level on the fake profile and to change single object to multiple object. he then messages big snake in the morning to tell him he was correct

Matt DiMeo

i mean, there’s no video unless he makes one. None of his fans saw anything.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

It sounds like you guys are just bringing different connotations of the word ‘segregation’ to the table FWIW I agree more with Andrew, when people say ‘segregation’ they don’t usually literally just mean ‘physically separating the population based on certain criteria’, they also have the implied context of all the historically related horrors like small-scale genocide, lynching, culture destruction, denial of public resources etc which is just not happening to avowed It’s not literally slavery for the most part - they are well compensated and the system prioritises enthusiastic and willing Avowed, and you could just not level at all which makes you unlikely to be dropped into any chaos events. So far it sounds like those who have lost their lives or participate in Matadero are those who choose to be superheroes and specifically train for it Just being called ‘property’ is really not enough to justify tacking on all the connotations related to the word ‘slavery’. I see my pets as my property, I take care of them and have legal responsibility and place restrictions on their behavior and expect them to guard the house when I’m gone but I wouldn’t call it slavery

Second Raddish

I think the phrasing itself isn't a lie if Alden is using his perception of what an object is to carry peppermint in his stomach all day.

Aspiring Moth

he isn't using perception. he explicitly talks about how his authority sense allows him to exert more deliberate control over the skill and preserve two separate objects. you can find the first mention of that in a conversation with kibby after he first gets wizard spells to work

Gail

It's not lying. Alden's skill is meant to preserve whatever he uses it on as a single object even when its a stack or collection of discrete things. He's doing that. There's a reason he refers to this technique as 'double-running' his skill, its because he's literally just using his skill twice. If a skill said it threw one fireball, and then you saw someone shoot two in a row, would you assume their skill shoots two fireballs and the system is lying to you? Or would you correctly realise that they just used it twice?

Aspiring Moth

@gail I get where you're coming from, but how do you explain that the real profile no longer says single item? check chapter 64, to a quiet rabbit

Andrew Tobin

It is interesting that it was so far down the list, perhaps not regularly chosen, and has a nice obscure name (even if they do that a lot to earth skills). You’d also think the chainers, being the religious and optimistic and old sort (using chains pre-unification of the language) might be the sorts of people who would have been involved in the initial 300 skills.

Andrew Tobin

What are we reading for book club this month? Astrid: Animals! Jupiter: Trees! Hayou: Manga! Vandy: Homework! Jeffy: Books? Alden: Secret magic texts?

Flying Goat

The Gokoratch song has gone viral, and Alden and those who sung with them get offered a contract to single about Gokoratches exclusively. Things take a turn for the worse when they're booked for a PETA fundraiser, and PETA members feel the song doesn't portray the brave and noble Gokoratch in a sufficiently positive way. This leads to the band eventually having a farewell tour, before getting together again, only to have another farewell tour when they realize one can only sing so much on the subject before running out of ideas.

SnuggleCat

Stuart: Panda videos! Kibby: Pictures of the exploded lab. Alden: you guys, this is a book club.

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

Alden: "So then I had to explain to the Artonans what the human tradition of book clubs was about, because apparently wizards-in-training don't have those, and... wait, come back! Why are you guys running away?"

AL

There's probably a few shadow dictatorships run by S ranked villains maybe? Not in office or function but ruling from the shadows through coercion a d force? Like the probable villain that's been keeping Hannah locked for years.

AL

Odd idea I like it bit it's very implausible since I doubt the granwitch wouldn't use her own staff. And she would be keeping nonstop tabs on hazel.

Landon Watt

I think when he gets Burden of Spell that will give him more insight into authority shapes for other students' spell impressions, and will help in learning them as spells.

AL

Don't forget Winston and Lucille

AL

I don't anyone missed that. We've all been wondering I think.

Zenopath (AEV)

I think calling it slavery is a step too far. They do get paid and have certain rights such as refusals, morality clause, days off. As soon as they accept that contract of inter dimensional warriors they are locked in, but unless they are a unique, they can refuse, and not get any magic at all. So it's not involuntary labor, just a very one sided life long enlistment.

PatienceHoney

I like your insight with this statement, "because adults always mistook my super seriousness for super maturity," It really is weird what we (I am and have been an adult for a long time) assign as indicators of maturity. They are truly illusory correlations. My son is, and always has been, tall for his age and weirdly people expected him to act more mature because they perceived him as older. I can see us making the same mistake with seriousness. Other illusory correlations that I see in the story are: (1) High strength (S) = leadership (Soo many people) and conversely Lower strength = lack of leadership (others of Max) (2) Unlearned = unintelligent (others of Jeffy)

AL

Now this the real question! She had 7 siblings that makes 8 kids and the solar system has 8 planets without pluto but with Uranus. So I'm guessing pluto is still a planet.

Dalton C Vieira

Chapters don't come out on Wednesdays and Sundays, they come out Thursdays and Mondays.

AL

There's always someone spying I'm public places om anesidoria

Andrew Simpson

There are a lot of spells that require simultaneously concentrating on multiple things at once, since artonians just have multi-threaded brains, which Alden will never be able to do sadly. I think that's why he's focusing on handcasting, those spells tend to be less mentally complex I think.

David

That’s a good point. I think we can safely assume she doesn’t know about his skill, in that case. I still don’t see how she could have missed him having an authority sense. I’d be more inclined to believe The Mother was obfuscating, given Alden’s expressed desire to have a low-intensity vacation.

AL

What does the device underneath need to work and how long does it work and how maintenance does it need etc.

AL

Just wait for ze notification, it's instant I think

SkySeeker (definitely not Lauren K in a mask)

Noooooo... take it back! Lol. I think Wednesdays and Sundays may return once Sleyca gets a backlog going again, but for now I do find myself somewhat wistful for the times we would have had a chapter by now. Ah, well. No pressure to Sleyca! I am a little leery of comments like this, because I don't want to increase the author's stress level if she reads them. For now, I am just enjoying the book club.

Andrew Tobin

Lexi: I don’t have time for book clubs, all my time is training and 8 1/2 hours sleep and yours should be too.

AL

If anyone is a super villain it's Max! Villains in this qorld can't be obvious also he'd need to be able to fake a lot of biological things in the diverse tests they do I bet if the age doesn't line up.

aaaaaa

Himbo Farmboy Jeffy better get a slot on the team is all I'm saying

Guus van der Borg

I bet he told his fans when he'd have his next gym class though. So they're expecting a video. So now he can choose to do one of two things. He can upload a sanitized video, with only the bits in it where he's being awesome. Or he can upload a video that includes his decapitation. Doing the latter will probably be humiliating and might damage his popularity. However, if he does the former and there are other students on his videos they'll tell everyone in the comments what he's hidden. One way or another, his B-heading is going to come out.

Andrew Simpson

Do y'all think Jacob is smuggling Hazel? On one hand, it would make sense and I can't imagine what other narrative reason he would be with her at the party other than to cement that connection and justify the smuggling. On the other hand, it's been almost a week since then, and unless grandmonster is on board, how could she hide it from her? She's still going to get called to the triplanets, it's not like she can fully go to ground or whatever.

Aspiring Moth

depends on your time zone. the chapters come out pretty consistently around the same time each posting day

GryphonKnight

Jacob maybe the POV character ( Sleyca does not do omniscience narratives ) for SAL, the disposal of Manon's body, or both 🔲

GryphonKnight

The fake profile can be edited by any Contract Personally, I think, once Alden is a fully trained Knight, Alden will likely gain editing rights or no longer need it 🔲

Robert Armstrong

No official status. But my theory is that she ended up using her power on herself and is now frozen in space and time somewhere out there.

GryphonKnight

Joe: Kingdom of Needle and Bone by Mira Grant ( Pseudonym of Seanan McGuire ) Gorgon: New Moon by Stephenie Meyers Manon: Handbook for the Recently Deceased by Handbook for the Recently Deceased Press 🔲

Gyoza Dog

Aulia told people Hazel was leaving the planet. That doesn’t mean she did. Stashing her somewhere seems just as likely.

John D Jones

@ Andrew Simpson Jacob was with Hazel at the party because she black-mailed him into... being her date. Aside from all the other stuff on Anesidora that Jacob wants to flee, figure one reason he hooked up with SAL was to get the fuck away from Hazel Velra. @ GryphonKnight I seriously doubt that SAL dumps bodies for Aulia Velra. Even if they do, figure Jacob is probably not going to b their point person for that. I do think there might be a connection. Perhaps Aulia is why Orpheus had the Submerger in the first place and was allowed to trade it for drugs. Maybe she gave it to him to give to Jacob for... future favors from SAL. Probably not body-dumping Manon, though. Something like that would give them too much potential leverage over her. Aulia likely has... people she can call when Hazel or other family member start crying, "Please send lawyers, guns and S-ranks. Gramma help me out of this!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2HH7J-Sx80&t=2s&ab_channel=WarrenZevon-Topic

Spores

You are misremembering the refusal stuff- if they refuse they don't get the "signing bonus" but do have to affix. When the timer runs out, they would affix whatever class they were randomly assigned unless they traded out first. And while they are deprioritised, "you may not refuse to serve". They do get magic, and could be summoned for involuntary labour.

GryphonKnight

@Super Super But Lute thinks is RELATIVELY weak for a Rank S Skill which means it is better than a Rank S spell impression Choral Director of Word chains could be a good English skill name for an S Rank chainer skill 🔲

John D Jones

@ Dalton C Vieira That's pretty much my new normal for this series. I think it'll make things easier for me. No more staying up until after 11 PM on Sundays and Wednesdays. I just go to bed at a sane time and wake up to some fresh, hot Soup. And that's no biggie. Heck, Casualfarmer (who does the also excellent "Beware of Chicken") has drop dates of Monday, Wednesday and Friday which usually translate to late Tuesday-early Wednesday, late Thursday-early Friday and Sunday. Sleyca drops are early compared to that.

GryphonKnight

@Andrew Tobin I love the idea Lute's second S Ranked skill is a knight skill What if ALL the roommates had knight skills? Lute: Harmonize Spell Impressions ( chainer ) Lexi: Can I Pet it ( Writher ) or Chain Dancing Haoyu: Sunlight Sweet Tea ( Stamina ) or Soul Water 🔲

Matt DiMeo

zero chance. She can go be a palace bigshot on the triplanets and come home when things cool down, or she can be a quiet nobody criminal on earth. No way.

Andrew Simpson

I don't think she willingly left, she was told she was leaving by Aulia after she fucked up. We also are assuming she left, we don't know if that was just a cover, or if it actually happened. Also, I still feel like that is a tenuous reason for her to bring Jacob along. Maybe in fiction, but why associate those two characters just to have them never interact again? It doesn't make any sense really.

Colton

Passing the time watching Taylor Swift's boyfriend play football, hoping the new chapter releases soon... Chiefs down by three #ShakeItOff Multiple after the play flags #BadBlood

Andrew Simpson

Yeah I think Hazel wouldn't agree to getting smuggled. Just wondering cuz I saw a lot of people talking about it, and it KIND OF makes sense.

GryphonKnight

SLA Sleyca tends to write very realistic fiction From the clues so far, SAL sounds like a social movements [REDACTED, DO NOT FEED TROLLS] Not a formal organization with an organizational chart ( corporation / army / conspiracy ) NOTES ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_movements ) 🔲

Kim Enteiu

The fifth member…there was no fifth member: the book was about…there was no book.

John D Jones

@ Andrew Simpson Hazel wanted her "date" to be someone she could control. Someone she could order to roll around in dirt to be the "grunge" to her burrito-glitter. Someone who wouldn't/couldn't ditch her at the party and sniff after her hotter (or at least nicer) cousins. Hazel was supposed to be the new Goddess of Kingdom Come but she turned out to be a B-rank dud. So her former friends (and boyfriend) moved on from her. Some of them probably tried on glom onto Lute and he told them to "Fuck off." Maybe one of them is the Shoe-pisser. Sure it might seems like a tenuous reason to bring Jacob, but it works given the kind of person that Hazel is - the same one who gave Alden a word-chain mood alteration because she sucks that much at social dealings. Plus it re-introduced Jacob into the story and put him on Alden's radar.

GryphonKnight

@John D Jones One explanation for Jacob being at the party is Grandwitch wanted him there I think the Sway on board could be connected with Grandwitch since she employs Sways and Lute thinks she is criminal The Sway could be tracking down the Submerger? disposing of Manon's body? tracking down the drug supplier? etc. 🔲

Kim Enteiu

Knowing how long Alden was off-system due to the chaos incursion, and his current best guess about how long he has before he’ll need to affix again, Hannah will be approaching the tipping point of the scale, but might not have gotten there yet, if she’s still alive. We don’t have a definitive answer about what happens when affixation is blown, but it does sound a lot like it results in a chaos conversion.

John D Jones

If the Grandwitch knew who Jacob was, she would NOT want him there. Why would she want Orpeus's drug connection at her son's somewhat public birthday party? No, this is on Hazel. Hazel Velra is a fairly pretty (presumably) 17 year old girl from a wealthy, powerful family. All she should have to do to get a date is be open to the idea and be reasonably welcoming (or at least civil) to potential prospects. And she cannot handle that. So she black-mails Orpheus's drug mule kid into doing it instead.

Zenopath (AEV)

Everyone assumes Jacob is being swayed. But all we have is his POV stream of consciousness. Suppose Hazel calls him up and says "Take me with you when you leave the island." Obviously, Jacob is not a huge fan of Hazel and her bossy ways, but he agrees to do so. Now he's sulky about it, and like an upset child, he's pretending she doesn't exist. "The fifth passenger... nah I'm just pretending she doesn't exist. I don't even want to think about that bossy B-word.¨ Narratively there's a term for this sort of thing, it's called "unreliable narrator." I'm giving this a 60% chance of being what happened.

Neil H

I don't think so, but on a related tangent I was rereading chapter 101 and wondering if the (clothed) "brown-haired girl" hanging out with Orpheus is Jacob. She says Orpheus is her brother though, which I doesn't quite match: "A brown-haired girl, remarkable mostly for the fact that she was fully clothed in slacks and a polka-dotted blouse, was sitting on the edge of a teak lounge chair. She glanced over at Orpheus and raised an eyebrow. “Aren’t you even going to check to make sure your snacks are there so you can destroy your organs properly this time? For all you know, he brought you takeout.”

Andrew Simpson

It would also be trivial for her to withhold the submerger or whatever the thing is she was gonna give him unless he smuggled her. Who knows.

GryphonKnight

MISTAKES WERE MADE I love your examples As a high school freshman, I got invited to prank other freshmen because I was mistaken for a senior Picking the lock when our home room teacher was late did not help correct this misconception I got away with worse stuff than Harry Potter One of the reasons I love Alden saying "This really requires adult involvement" EMPLOYEE But the most bizarre is being repeatedly mistaken for an employee at most retail businesses According to my spouse, it is because I can spend hours in the store comparing items and checking packaging This got me thrown out of a few stores as a start up, spy during the initial introduction of online shopping 🔲

Andrew Simpson

@Neil H. I think that was 100% Hazel. And Orpheus is technically her biological brother because she is technically aulia's daughter.

Zenopath (AEV)

I mean how certain are you that Hazel wants to go to that palace? She'd be working full-time as a volunteer. She could be just immature enough to decide she'd rather go rough it out as a fugitive, see the world a bit, and come back later. It's doable if she has a lot of money, which she probably does. Call it a year-long vacation with her personal lackey to carry her luggage. Jacob is probably not too thrilled about the idea, but as he doesn't have money he could have agreed to it and is now sulking about it, pretending she doesn't exist...

Zenopath (AEV)

OMG have you watched Meatcanyon's youtube video about that couple? You absolutely have to, just look up meatcanyon taylor swift.

Alan Miller

The cooling down would be for the Alden video, not for Manon - VERY FEW people will ever know what happened there, and apparently disappearances on summons aren't unknown though certainly unexpected for a Rabbit. Aulia knows enough about Manon to understand that meeting Hazel outside the catastrophe of a party means she was involved, but the biggest long term impact is likely that Hazel needs to never be probed deeply by a Sway (Aulia has presumably long since taken measures to avoid that for herself).

Andrew Tobin

@Flying Goat, they’ve decided to put some football on tv in between Taylor Swift appearances

Andrew Simpson

She 1,000,000% does not want to go to the palace, but she also murdered a woman in cold blood, so I think she's falling in line while grandma makes sure she doesn't go to prison for fatal power abuse/murder.

Bryan Thew

My bet is an medical summons to grab the hurt wizard during the battle. And all the joy that would bring

Radha Patel

Orpheus is technically her biological grand-nephew lol. (edit: They grew up being treated like half-siblings raised by the same father)

Rob

I hope we get to see how Hazel gets treated by the Chainer fanatics when they find out she abused her abilities in order to harass the Golden Heart. Before she goes to court lol.

Zenopath (AEV)

I don't think you can exhaust foundation points. Think about, what would it mean to exhaust your processing, your appeal. You suddenly become dumber and uglier? You can exhaust your body at which point all the physical foundation points aren't very useful, but you could fight that by taking more points into stamina. What is stamina foundation points? An authority boost, or an improvement of your body's energy reserves and metabolic efficiency at oxygenating muscle? The latter makes more sense.

Zenopath (AEV)

Its fun to ship characters. I mean, I don't really care about romance, but I am curious if Alden's going to end up with the hot S rank rabbit, or the powerful S rank ground shaper. Is the S rank gentle giant a contender? Nah, team Rabbit for me. It's just fun to make guesses like that, to look for clues which way it goes. Once the ship has happened, it's kinda less interesting, so some authors just leave it up in the air, never shipping their characters just to keep readers guessing. As of Sleyca's last comment though, I'm definitely on the lookout for any female sentient ferns, lol.

Rob

@calico c. That sounded like an admiral ackbar to me

Flying Goat

@Andrew Tobin, and she's only putting in an appearance to tide people over until the next Super Supportive chapter comes out, I assume.

UpgrayeDD

I think it funny ironic that Lute's goal of finding a crime to report and destroy his grandmother will ultimately be the crime of hiding the murder of Manon by Hazel. Obviously grandwitch didn't direct or participate in the murder, but by hiding it, she became an accessory after the fact.

Gibborim

@Kserand not only that, but his real father was the Demon King that fell in a war with the combined might of the U-Types. The Body Drainer incident was an attempt to tie up lose ends and now Boe was meant to finish off Alden for good, but the power of friendship and his natural churlishness won out.

Zenopath (AEV)

It must be tough to hide murder on an island full of people with magical abilities like Truth telling and Read objects past. Who knows what tricks the APD have. And as powerful as grandma is, he has equally powerful enemies who would love to see her dethroned.

Gibborim

The Alden video is a great excuse to get her off planet. I think the purpose of getting her off planet is to remove her from the grasp of authorities while they see if they pulled of the Manon coverup.

Gibborim

Why would Mother explicitly lie about Alis Art’h not knowing about it when silence is free? Alden didn't even ask if Alis Art’h knew.

Gibborim

I wouldn't say never. With enough cognitive stat points allocated (with help from Mother) and the willingness to sever his corpus callosum for a "training" period (after which it would be repaired), I could imagine him building the ability to maintain two distinct trains of thought.

Matt DiMeo

I’m sure Aulia has rabbit crime scene cleaners on speed dial. Somebody walks in with a mop and a stain removal spell impression, and walks out with a couple months’ pay.

John Anastacio

I believe the more relevant reason why it's hard to be a criminal on Anesidora is that Anesidora is a surveillance society. I gather there are lots of stationary cameras and video drones and of course Avowed with interfaces that can record video all around. Anything in public is far too easy to record.

Zenopath (AEV)

I mean the Meatcanyon Taylor Swift youtube video has over 7 million views and 452k likes, how bad could it be?

Aidan Gorman

But presumably someone like Kon would be able to know that it was cleaned of blood and someone was murdered there

Josiah

Does anyone remember the sway that got kicked out at the admissions test? What if she is the last crewmember. Always wondered why she was even introduced in the story. She was able to block distractions from people's minds. What if she is able to block more than just distractions.

C. Adkins

I was thinking about Kon too. If everyone has a purpose, then Kons abilities could be viewed as the smoking gun, since it doesn’t come into play at all so far in the school (and while they believe it WILL be useful, I think his ability will be perfect for detective work)

Zenopath (AEV)

It's possible, but why would she need to hide from her fellow passengers? I feel that the Hazel scenario is more likely, because either Jacob is pretending she's not there, or she is using a word chain because she's in hiding. Most escaping avowed have no particular reason to care if other runaways see them. I'd put the odds at Hazel 60%, Mina 30% Other 10%.

C. Adkins

Hazel went offworld, no need for the SaL. And a sway would hide because everyone hates sways.

Benjamin Collins

I feel like reading these comments is a hindrance to the journey that slayca is taking me on like I didn't even remotely correlate the last part of this chptr to a furthering of the velra conspiracy and now that I do I'm not Gunna be surprised if it happens....but I can't stop, it's like an addiction to see what you guys come up with

C. Adkins

I too am straight up confused. I probably missed something or just the comments be comments. Lol I kinda find the comments to mostly be a giant cork board with lots of red yarn, and I love it!

David

What I mean by obfuscation is that she didn’t actually say anything about what Alis knows. She just said that “[she] didn’t realize you were in the process of making yourself so unique,” which could mean his authority sense and/or BOAB… or it could refer to his association with Gorgon, having wizard friends, being a B rank who got summoned an hour after affixing, his connections to the velras, or his involuntary veganism.

SnuggleCat

Ok, rereading, and the parts with them planning their own funerals is amazing. Used to do that myself, as a kid. My sister used to say we should pin her eyelids open so she could give all the guests a sunken, dead stare that would haunt there nightmares. Haven't had a chance to put those 'plans' in action, thankfully, but it's still funny to think about.

Slightly Morbid

Note that Kon goes around reading objects randomly, so he could find out by pure chance.

Alan Miller

There's a solid argument for 'hot blood' and also for fighting back against illegal use of sway-like abilities, but proving that would show that Aulia and others were already aware of it and were using it under the table. I suspect Aulia would arrange Hazel's death herself before allowing that to happen, possibly forced into it by her own contract tattoos.

Zenopath (AEV)

So new prediction, something goes wrong with Jacob's boat, and they end up shipwrecked on Matador Island, the next day Alden and friends go to Matador island and the shipwrecked runaways try to highjack their boat.

jg

All nighter?

Muspellsheimr

Does Sleyca have a Discord server for Super Supportive?

Partha Peddi

I think of the comments and theories as alternate timelines/realities. It is fun to read them and understand the things I missed while reading the previous chapters. I finally found the wizards discussion in 219 after reading a comment about it. After reading it again, I realized that they are in Matadero.

Voidsong

Well, i guess I'll read the next chapter at some point. I realized some clothes I needed for work tomorrow (today?) were dirty so i threw in the laundry for a quick wash and decided I'd read the chapter if it dropped while i waited to switch it over. ... It did not drop

Stylemys

No way is it Hazel. Aulia has WAY too good of a relationship with the Palace of Unbreaking for her not to know if Hazel showed up there. There’s no way the Chainer princess wouldn’t have been tracked down immediately if she went AWOL.

Guus van der Borg

@Sinnohan There's a theory floating around that when Alden finally manages to meet up with Gorgon again that he can sacrifice the parts of his authority that he deems useless/detrimental for some other gains. He could sacrifice his spell impression and his magic sensitivity foundation points in exchange for... something, not sure what he could or would exchange it for at this point.

Silver21

One probable reason for Mina to be there is maybe she thought that with actual evidence of obtaining information about villains and thus helping heroes she can be admitted to the school even if no one will let her use her powers on them like was the case before

Elessar Beverly

I hate to rain on your sister's parade or uh, funeral, but I think one of the reasons they sow the eyelids shut is cause the eyes actually dissolve and melt upon death since they're pretty much all water content. So that might be hard to accomplish.

Stylemys

I think it might just be a slightly longer term setup. We know that an acceptance requirement to the university program is getting a Skill to level 10. Kon only has the one option to work on right now. So within the next couple years, it should be maxed out and notably more powerful.

6b5zksc9

no chapter?

Stylemys

Probably the most troublesome aspect is how deeply it ingrains the Us vs Them mentality in the Avowed population. There is negligible interaction with the general populace. Super heroes like Big/Little Snake even seem to get along better with the literal aliens. Regular old humanity might as well be a different species. When the Avowed eventually take over like Stu mentioned, there is going to be zero sense of unity or companionship between the new ruling class and everyone else. Also, there will already be a centuries long precedence of the ruling party getting to forcefully relocate and converge the unwanted minority into more “convenient” locations. The results will not be pretty.

Stylemys

Planned summons are a thing. Big Snake already knew about his latest one before hand. Alden could iust say he got heads that a Wizard he worked with last time has plans to beem him up again.

Jason Harpster

Great.......boat boy joined a half baked liberation group. Don't be mean, they are all half baked, nobody ever thinks these groups thru to their logical end.

Jasus

seems more like a cult. How much do you want to bet that the fifth is a sway?

JJ Hunter

On reread, of *course* Maricel's willingness to run across a planet if she had to to get back home struck such a chord with Alden. That's what he did, and he made it home against all odds.

SFGuru

Exalted Master ... - that's got to be better than Distinguished Master... - right?