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[A/N: Thank you.]

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The child who lived in the dome by the river was trying to decide what kind of beautiful the day was. He squatted a couple of steps from the wide silver band of the water, dark sand squishing between his toes.

Beautiful. More beautiful. Or most beautiful?

He splayed his small fingers, patting the stone he had just warmed with magic before flopping over in the soft sand to lay his cheek against it. That way he could feel the heat with his face, too. 

He had learned the spell only a few days ago. His mother would come soon, and he would show her that he had done it all by himself. And she would be proud of him.

That will make it one of the more beautiful days, he thought.

He decided to think about his new spell with one half of his attention and listen for the familiar sound of her approaching footsteps with the other. 

They were never apart for long. As soon as being alone became less interesting and happy than being together would be, she appeared. That was how the world worked.

The stone felt good, and the cool sand felt good, and the wind tickled his legs and arms where they stuck out of his longshirt. 

If he fell asleep for long, he would wake in bed. His mother’s arms would be wrapped around him, or her voice would be, as she sang him The Names of Things song. 

If he got up and ran as fast as he could on his short legs, the air would fill his chest, and he would see parts of the river he’d never seen before. And as soon as he went far enough to wonder if going too far might be a possibility—as soon as he tried to figure out what one should feel if they went too far from home—he would see that he hadn’t really gone far at all. 

The way back to the dome was always clear and easy to walk when he wanted it.

This was what life was.

He heard footsteps. 

They sound different than I expected, he thought, delight tingling through him. I’m getting a surprise. 

Different almost always meant a surprise. Surprises almost always made the day most beautiful.

He sat up and looked around.

His mother was there, standing side by side with the most amazing surprise of the child’s whole life. 

“Stu,” she said, “this man is Jeneth-art’h. He is your father.”

Stu stared at the new adult—him, the man, Jeneth-art’h, Father. The ideas blossomed inside him, and he realized he had always wanted this even though he’d never once felt the lack of it. 

He gasped and ran forward, arms outstretched. “Father! There you are, and here I am. I love you so much!”

He grabbed the man around the legs, blinking up to meet pink eyes. Hair that was almost white spilled down Father’s shoulders. He smelled different than Mother. His skin was paler than hers, his nose a little larger, and the expression on his face was one Stu didn’t know, though he was sure it must be a good one.

“This is the most beautiful day there has ever been,” Stu said, still clinging to him. “Do you think so too, Father?”

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“It’s been a long while since someone chose Maker of Narrow Ways,” Stuart was saying. “I’ve spent almost as much time talking to the Contract about the possibilities and having calls with <<designers>> and <<theorists>> as I have in class. But about a month ago I finally got every involved person to agree that my desired <<personalizations>> and <<self-concept>>  would be <<excellent in their own way>> instead of <<in conflict>> with the skill’s <<core>>.”

The Artonan paused for his first breath in ages. 

Emban-art’h had left to go change her clothes after a short bickering session with her cousin, so it was just the two of them again. Alden was sitting on the ground, leaning against the tree that had been his backrest for most of the morning and eating his lunch out of the to-go tiffin he’d packed earlier. Stuart had sat down to eat with him only to bounce right back up to grab the first wood block his spell effect had struck, which was the least damaged of them all. He’d held the broken pieces together to show Alden the approximate shape of the hole that had been formed in it. 

It was an oversized bean if you used your imagination.

Now, Stuart was standing beside his magical handiwork. He kept looking from his bean bullet—still in its landing spot beside its partner—to Alden like he couldn’t decide which one was more worthy of his attention. 

Alden opened his mouth to ask a question, and Stuart hastily said, “I know! Naturally, you’re worried about whether I’ll be able to use the skill the way I want to and hoping I won’t be disheartened with my choice during the early years of my knighthood. Maybe you’re thinking that it’s <<ill-chosen>> and I should instead consider a more certain course—”

“I’m not thinking any of those things!” Alden cut in, setting aside the ceramic jar of greasy, tasteless pudding he’d just tasted. It was by far the worst of all the random snacks he’d added to his lunch, but since he’d taken it he felt obligated to finish it.

“You’re not?” He looked so thrilled to hear it that Alden hated to point out the very obvious thing that Stuart seemed to have forgotten. He was high on the aftermath of his casting success and Alden’s own enthusiasm for what he’d done. 

As soon as I said the spell was awesome he launched into this mode, and he hasn’t slowed down since. 

“I do think you might have temporarily forgotten that I’m not Artonan,” Alden said.

Stuart blinked at him.

“So I can’t really judge your choice. I have almost no knowledge. To me, what you did is incredible, and I think a skill that both transports things and destroys obstacles in its path is going to be so impressive when you grow it. But I probably understand about one percent of what you really did, and when it comes to the pressures you’re under to pick the right thing…I don’t even know how many skills you have to choose from.”

“Of course.” Stuart’s neck purpled. “I got too excited.”

“No.” Alden shook his head. “I don’t think it’s possible to be too excited about your skill choice. It will always be part of who you are in the future, so…”

So screw you, overly certain fifteen-year-old idiot Alden. Why didn’t you take at least a few weeks to think like this back in February? 

“So you need to really think about what you’re doing with it and find something that makes you that excited.”

Stuart smiled, picked up his beans, and came over to take a seat facing Alden.

“I should let you ask questions,” he said. “Since I’m not sure what you understand. What do you want to know?”

“Everything,” Alden said. “But that might take years. How about we start with what just happened. You made a tunnel? Will your skill always work like that?”

“It always will when I’m doing this kind of thing with it…yes, the spell I cast created a tunnel—a way for the bean to reach its destination. The <<construct>> formed quickly, moving from one bean to the other and denying everything else the right to occupy that space as it came into existence. Then the bean traveled through to its destination <<unimpeded>>.”

“The tunnel isn’t all created in an instant,” Alden said, just to be sure he understood. “It begins forming at Bean 1, then continues forming toward Bean 2. In a straight line?”

Stuart nodded.

“And everything in between gets…” Alden almost said “punched through,” but then he reconsidered. “Is the tunnel at its full width from the start and moving forward like a finger poking holes in sheets of paper? Or is it expanding into existence as it goes?”

“It expands,” Stuart said

“When you do it with your skill will it work the same way? Or will the whole tunnel form at once?”

“Eventually, I should have significant control over the process. But motion toward something is part of the skill concept. A way is meant to be traveled, so having it appear fully made between two points instead of having it progress from one to the other…” He craned his neck back and stared thoughtfully up at the forest’s canopy. “I’m sure I could do it with practice. One day. But I can’t think of many reasons to do it when forming ways nearly instantaneously would be good enough and produce stronger results.”

This is pretty fascinating. 

And it was more confirmation that Alden’s own ideas about how Bearer worked were on the right track. “Your skill is weaker when it’s being used for things that are less itself,” he said.

Stuart stopped gazing up at the branches and met his eyes again. His brows were slightly elevated. “The skill isn’t weaker; the effects of it are. It’s an important <<distinction>>. You can bring the same amount of authority to bear, but skills become more <<undeniable>> when what you want to do with them reflects their natures.”

“All skills?”

“Of course.” But then he added, “I don’t know as much about Avowed skills. Some skills are more rigid than others, and that would mean there was less variation and possibility in their function. A skill can be limited in all kinds of ways, until it crosses the threshold toward being defined as a spell impression. A skill called Maker of Narrow Ways for Keda Beans could be created, and then the person who bound themselves to it probably wouldn’t be able to do anything but move keda beans through bean-sized ways.”

“I’m glad you didn’t pick that one.”

“The other <<newlings>> would probably hesitate to be in <<squads>> with someone who picked a skill that weird,” Stuart replied. “I did have trouble choosing. Weighing what skills could contribute to our purpose with how they suited me personally was difficult. Finding one that could be meaningful to me in the right ways was a lengthy search.”

Alden had promised himself, while he watched Stuart set up the spell, that he wouldn’t have selfish-dickhead thoughts about how different their skill selection experiences were. And so far it was mostly working.

Given Stu-art’h’s general intensity level, Alden had been afraid that he might have chosen something insane for himself. Like a skill called I Cut Off My Own Fingers in Exchange for Making Mountains Explode. Or something equally difficult to live with.

So he was still feeling relieved that instead he’d seen a cool magical effect that would surely have multiple powerful and practical uses for a future knight, without any loss of blood or added anguish on the caster’s part. And the Artonan boy’s enthusiasm for showing the spell off and talking about it was infectious.

“What made Narrow Ways the perfect one?” Alden asked.

Stuart’s answer was a little slow in coming. He picked up a fallen leaf and wove it through his fingers. 

“I wanted to be able to cut through things,” he said after a moment. “But I didn’t want the skill to be built on a foundation of separation. Maker of Narrow Ways can be used for <<severing,>> but it’s not for severing. The cutting is something that forms a connection, instead of something that breaks one. 

“It’s a skill that can reflect what has shaped my past and what I hope for in my future.” He dropped the leaf. “I’m sure when it’s all done and my peers have a chance to look away from their own choices and consider mine, many of them will think I’ve gone too far in pursuit of personal meaning at the expense of efficiency. But at least my family supports this part of my decision. Evul said it was a goal as odd as I was, but she meant it in a complimentary way.”

“It’s not efficient?”

“No. I want to use Maker of Narrow Ways on the battlefield, but it wasn’t designed for that. There are easier methods for destroying things or sending them across short distances. I’m sure I’ll find many opportunities to take full advantage of it. But often, to get the effect I want, I’ll be straining my authority more than I would with other skills.”

Oh yeah. That makes perfect sense now that he says it. Constructing a rapid-transport tunnel through space was extremely fancy, but it was a convoluted way of dealing damage. 

“It’s like me using my skill to behead someone in gym,” said Alden. “Just because I can do it doesn’t mean I’m a natural beheader.”

“That word for removing someone’s head is only for formal executions. You want to use the other one, unless you are deliberately implying that Avowed Winston is a terrible criminal.”

Alden thought for a second. “Would it come across as funny-mean or serious if I used the original word?”

“It would be funny-mean if an Artonan said it. If you do, people are just going to think you accidentally used the wrong word…maybe it would work if you laughed after saying it? And yes, you understand what I mean about efficiency. If a skill called The Slicer of Necks exists, we can assume it’s better at doing that chore with a smaller authority commitment than your preservation skill can. Although circumstances affect everything.”

“What’s Maker of Narrow Ways supposed to do?” Alden asked. “What was it designed for?”

Stuart opened his mouth then shut it. He thought for a few seconds before saying, “Its intended use is cross-dimensional exploration.”

Why the pause there? Alden wondered.

“It will be very efficient for that particular thing. And that’s what the few previous users selected it for. The fact that it’s not immediately capable of doing that was a source of <<misery>> for them even though they knew to expect it…to bind yourself and spend your early years of service unable to use your skill in the way you want…for me, it will be better. There will be problems but not <<unassailable>> ones, I’m sure.”

Alden looked past him to the line of destroyed blocks and burst fruit. “I still think it’s amazing.

“Yes!” Stuart said, eagerness returning. “Its roots drink from concepts like connection, motion toward goals, <<precision>>, and creation.”

“Built on creation. Not destruction. Even though it’s capable of destroying. That’s what you wanted.” 

Stuart watched him take another bite of the tasteless pudding. 

Alden was still trying to produce enough saliva to get the remnants of it out of his mouth and down his throat, when Stuart said, “My father’s first skill is called Cleaver of Strength. Did you already know that?”

Alden shook his head.

“It’s a skill very different from mine really. Associated with concepts like severing, ambition, <<fair play>>—”

“Fair play?”

Stuart pursed his lips. “Father always mentions that one. I doubt the people who designed the skill would have listed it as a core part, but the way we see our skill and the choices we make in the development of it matter. Attacking at the point of greatest strength with your own greatest strength is a sort of fairness. And that’s what Father’s skill is best at.”

“You do usually think of attacking a problem at its weak point, not its strong one,” Alden said. 

“The skill is very complementary with Esh-erdi’s power. That’s one of the reasons he and Lind-otta spent time here. Esh-erdi has progressed quickly over the past years, and he and father wanted to see how well they might work together. The three of them could be a powerful team.”

Alden didn’t doubt it. Lind-otta slowed the enemy. Jeneth-art’h cleaved it, turning its greatest strength into a weakness—a crack. And Esh-erdi cleaned up.

“Father used that skill to kill Mother and separate her from my mind,” Stuart said. “As well as he could.”

Alden slowly set aside the food.

What did he just say? What the hell?

He watched Stu-art’h’s face for some clue as to how he should respond. But before he could come up with anything that felt like an appropriate reaction, the Primary’s son went on: “Father and a few others once traveled to a world that had suffered a sudden and very severe chaos breakthrough. It was clear to everyone that there was an intelligence of some sort responsible. Those are often the most dangerous situations. Someone had to respond swiftly, and so there was little opportunity for Father and his companions to study the nature of the enemy before beginning their assault on it.

“It was an unexpectedly difficult place. Father says they struggled to know what direction they traveled in, and though they sensed the demon and understood how it affected them, they couldn’t find it. As the corruption increased, two of the three he traveled with became too weak to continue. They attempted a teleportation ritual, to send those two back home. It’s not easy to do from a place like that, and though the Contract here on Artona I did register a possible teleportation attempt and try to stabilize it…it failed. When the failure was reported, and no further attempts came, most people suspected that the whole group had died.”

Stuart let his hands fall to the ground beside him, fingers digging into the leaf mulch.

“A woman called Iella-inwer, who was ranked sixty-eighth, had become a dear friend of my father’s over the course of their meetings. They had sworn no promises to each other, but I’ve been told that most people hoped they would. Some day soon. When he went to that place, she was actually here at the house, <<mentoring>> Rel.

“She joined the first group that was sent to help with the problem. They teleported to the nearest stable planet and took a <<fortified ship>> the rest of the way. Almost a whole day before they arrived, they say she felt something about the chaos spreading from that place. She looked at the others and said, ‘How fortunate. This is the kind of enemy I have forged myself to face.’”

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On the most beautiful day there had ever been, Stu’s family sat by the river together for a long time. His mother held him in her lap, combing his hair with her fingers. His father sat across from them, holding the rock Stu had given him as a present, even though the spell had worn off and it wasn’t warm anymore. 

“Iella,” his voice said. And again. “Iella, please…”

Many of the things Father said had a way of falling away from Stu’s memory, until only the cadence and the fact of his voice speaking were left. But that was all right. Maybe the words were drifting downstream. Wasn’t that a lovely idea?

“Would you like to see one of the patient creatures in the water?” Stu asked suddenly. “Father, have you seen them?”

The pink eyes fell on him. “Have you only taught him the Rityan vocabulary? Not the whole unified tongue?”

“Because then we’ll know,” Stu’s mother said, her fingers still combing. “If he ever says a word that isn’t Rityan, we’ll know it’s slipped through and affected him.”

Oh, Iella…

“What’s slipped through?” Stu asked curiously.

A picture came to him—one of the clear and true ones—of the little blue wigglers he liked to watch, slipping in and out of holes they’d made in thick patches of spongeplant. And he knew that was what they were talking about. 

So I might see one of those today, too?

That would be perfect.

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“The behavior of demons is a never-ending subject of research,” Stuart said to Alden. “But the ones that are prone to <<remaining>> often have stubborn <<drives>> and urges that might be called goals. The one responsible for that breakthrough was probably a wizard who, before his fall, was obsessed with the field of mind manipulation. We’re almost sure that we know his name, but the being was so unrecognizable when Father finally located the last remnants and destroyed them, that confirming its original identity wasn’t possible.”

Oh okay then, Alden thought, feeling his own eyebrows trying to escape off his face into the sky. We’re just going to straight-up tell me that a single wizard can turn into a super demon and cause an apocalypse-level chaos event.

He’d sort of suspected that already. Kibby had said she had to be tested more often than the other people at the lab to make sure it was safe for her to live there without becoming the strong-authority version of the chaos-spreading  grasshoppers. So the wizard-to-demon type of demon had been a possibility in Alden’s mind. 

He just hadn’t expected Stuart to casually confirm it was true and add in the fact that it could be really, really bad when that happened.

Stu-art’h, did you miss the class on proper discretion that the rest of your species gets, buddy? This is like Kibby all over again, only you have way more adult intel.

“My mother’s skill was The Ensnarer of Minds, and in some ways, the entire planet had become a chaotic mind snare under the influence of the <<origin demon>>. She was the best choice to find Father and help him push back the <<many-sided dangers>> until they could locate the perverse one and kill it.

“The others who’d come on the mission of rescue helped for a time, but eventually it was only the two of them left.” Stuart caught Alden’s gaze with his own. “My parents fought side by side in that <<agonyscape>> every day, cleansing it of corruption. Often Father rested his mind and recovered in the shelter she made for him with her skill. And whenever they became worn by the struggle, they pleasured one another to remember the brightness of life. I was <<conceived>> in that way.”

Alden narrowly stopped his mouth from making a comment about not needing to know that much. It would be rude, and besides…he didn’t actually feel that way about it.  

He was only startled the conversation had gone there, not embarrassed or offended. Minimizing the serious moment with an offhand remark wasn’t what he wanted.

Some kind of social reflex, I guess.

It was a garbage social reflex in this case.

Artonans had different norms. And they were poetic, especially about significant things. Your parents making you was pretty significant. Back at Matadero, Porti-loth was probably still muttering judgments about humanity because nobody had written down the exact spot where Alden’s umbilical cord had been cut. 

“My mother was the one who made a victory that didn’t involve the total destruction of the world possible,” Stuart said. “But they were relying so heavily on her. And even though she was skilled…when a battle of minds wearies you, it can weaken you in ways that are difficult to detect. For some reason, she didn’t tell Father she was pregnant with me. Probably to spare him from the likelihood of my loss. But as they were approaching the end of the long fight, she told him she couldn’t go on. Escape vessels and <<backup>> had been sent to a <<solidified>> part of the planet by then. So it should have been all right.

“When Father finished his work and made it to the main ship, they told him she’d gone back to the Mother planet. By teleportation ritual. She’d made them believe that. He was worried for her, and he’d been away from home for so much longer than planned, so he had them send him right back here to see her in person. And he realized something was very wrong.”

Stuart suddenly stopped talking.

Alden picked up the pudding and took another bite so that it didn’t feel quite so much like they were having an awkward silence. 

“At some point before she left him, she’d decided that their successes weren’t real. All the progress she’d made seemed like tricks the demon was playing on her, traps she was failing to detect.” Stuart swallowed. “When Father finally found us…she’d gone to a safe planet to give birth to me, but she thought we hadn’t really made it to safety. She thought her escape had failed, that it was all a mind trap—an elegant one, like she herself could create, not the sort of thing they’d actually encountered in that place. In her mind, the demon had become an impossible enemy who was always as strong, smart, and <<sophisticated>> as she was herself.

“So she’d waited for help to come. She protected me with her authority and tried to make sure that no matter what happened I wouldn’t experience suffering. She raised me in her own mind trap.”

Alden swallowed the greasy lump of pudding.

“She used her skill to remove everything that might be painful, frightening, or even slightly uncomfortable from my attention. It was the gift of the loving lie carried to its farthest extreme. When Father found us, I loved him at once. Of course. I had never felt unhappiness or known of a threat.

“I remember him trying to talk to me several times, to explain something, but most of those words are gone. She erased a lot of them because they might have confused me, and by then, she considered even that much to be a suffering I shouldn’t experience.

“He tells me he was fighting to hide how upset he was. That he argued with her in my presence when he couldn’t persuade her to leave with him or free me from the trap. But I don’t remember it that way. It’s all so…soft and happy.

“It was even soft and happy at the very end.”

******

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Another most beautiful day. 

Father and Mother had held him all morning. He liked that his life included two sets of slightly different arms. Two smells. Two great loves. More was better.

Now, they had words to say to each other that Stu could not hear. 

They are talking about a surprise, he thought. 

The only unknown things were surprises. 

He looked down through the water at the patient creatures. They rested on the bottom, black and not quite round. Covered in sharp points. 

Stu didn’t touch those. 

I want to touch them, though. Why is it I don’t touch them?

Had he shown them to Father already? He’d meant to, but he couldn’t remember doing it.

I don’t think I have. That’s exciting! I’ll show him when he comes to the river again.

And then, suddenly, there was a feeling that had never existed before.

Like.

The world.

Breaking.

Something’s not-beautiful, thought Stu-art’h. Something’s the most not-beautiful.

And then he was lying on his back in the sand, and his mother was running her fingers through his hair. 

“Mother! I love you.”

“You’re very happy today, Stu.”

“I am,” he agreed.

He heard footsteps coming, and then his father was there, standing above him. And his mother was gone.

So quick! Stu thought. So wonderful! She must have done it with a spell.

His father’s face was wearing one of those expressions Stu didn’t know.

“May I sit beside you?”

“You may hold me,” said Stu. “That would be the most good.”

A moment later, arms were around him. 

“I’m glad you’re all right. I have something to tell you,” his father said after a while. “It’s a surprise.”

“I knew there would be one!” Stu said. “What is it?”

“The surprise is that you have older brothers and sisters. And I’m going to take you on a trip to see them.” 

Stu blinked. He blinked many times. He was sure he’d never had to think so hard in his life. “Brothers and sisters like some animals have?” 

“Yes.”

“Do they look just like me?” 

“No. They look different. But all of you…all of you are most beautiful.” 

“Did you hear that, Mother?” Stu called excitedly. “We’re going to see my brothers and sisters.” 

The arms around him shook.

When Stu called, his mother appeared. As she always had. This time it was very fast, and she was standing right in front of them. On top of the water. 

Another special spell, he thought. One day, she’ll teach me that one, too.

******

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“The more he tried to reason with her, the more suspicious she became that he wasn’t himself,” Stuart told Alden. “Instead of persuading her that she was badly hurt, he was only making her think that he might be someone she had to protect me from, too. Pushing any more would make her fight him, and he was afraid that leaving would convince her she was right and make her panic. 

“She was unwell enough and dangerous enough that if he had called for help from the Triplanets and explained the truth of the matter, the outcome would most likely have been similar or worse. So before she could hurt me or drag me completely beyond recovery, he struck her down with his skill.”

Oh my god, Stuart.

“It was a long time ago,” said Stuart, reaching over to touch Alden’s knee with a fingertip. Apparently, Alden looked like he needed comforting.

“And I was so young. The day of her death was much more awful for him than for me. I didn’t even realize something bad had happened. Because…” Stuart smiled. “…Father was much worse at cleaving than usual.” 

“What do you mean?”

“Iella was so powerful. And I was so delicate. In some ways, her life had become her devotion to watching over me. If he’d struck at her point of greatest strength, he’d have been killing me, too. And he wouldn’t do that. So he was more <<tentative>>. Maybe she realized it was coming, too, and did something deliberate, <<enacted>> some final plan she’d made. 

“Because a very lifelike version of her was still with me after it was done. Anytime I looked for her, she was there watching over me as she always had been.”

“The hallucinations you mentioned,” Alden said.

Stuart nodded. “She even went on protecting me from…life. For a long time. What was left of the mind trap had holes in it, but they didn’t show at first. I feel so sorry for Father. He thought I was doing well enough on our trip home.”

The Artonan boy laughed a little.

Alden was shocked that Stuart could do that, but hearing the sound lanced some of the tension and horror he was feeling. 

“I was extremely unusual. Of course. But I loved the spaceship. I was happy. And he thought my occasional conversations with my missing mother were understandable <<coping>> and <<confusion>> that the mind healers would be able to fix. He didn’t realize I was still living in a world separate from everything else until we’d been traveling a while.”

Stuart touched his own bottom lip.

“I was running down a corridor on the ship, and I fell. I bit my lip. For some reason that was the first time the illusion completely failed. Nothing so shocking had ever happened to me. I’m sure it didn’t hurt much at all, but I had no way of understanding it and putting it <<into context>>. I was terrified. Even the sound of myself crying scared me. It felt like my body was out of control because I’d never sobbed before. And when I looked around for my mother, for the first time in my life, she wasn’t there…”

“I know it’s probably hard to imagine.” He looked at Alden. “But after that, I started having <<episodes>> every now and then, when she would disappear and I’d suddenly realize that the bed sheets were too itchy or the food tasted different than I was expecting. Those things were just as <<dire>> to me as actual injuries. I’d get confused and scared and start screaming. Father would do everything he could think of to figure out what was wrong and fix it.

“He didn’t even try to explain that Mother was really gone and that when I saw her it wasn’t her. Just the last gift she’d given me—the protection of the flawless world I’d always known.”

The breeze picked up, tossing the treetops. Alden watched a few of the fallen leaves skitter across the circular white stone Stuart had stood on to cast his spell.

“I understand why you picked your skill now,” he said. “You can cut with it, like your father. But you didn’t want to focus on the separation. You wanted to focus on the fact that…”

He couldn’t think of how to put it.

“The fact that the severing of something can be what connects you to a goal. Or a better place. Or people who love you, in a better way,” said Stu-art’h. 

Alden took another bite of his pudding. He was almost through with the stuff. Finally.

Stuart’s brow furrowed. “Do you enjoy eating it that way?”

“It’s not my favorite thing,” Alden said politely, “but my stomach is well-filled.”

“I see…” Stuart looked amused. “You’re eating it just to have perfect manners. You can stop that. We aren’t in the middle of one of the famines of old. I think the Triplanets can afford for one person to throw part of his second meal away.”

“I’m just trying to be a good guest for you. I don’t want anyone to say you chose wrong after I left. What is this stuff?” Alden looked down into the container. “It looks like vanilla pudding so I thought maybe it would be sweet. So much Artonan food is sweet. But this…is not.”

Stuart was grinning broadly now.

What?

The Artonan boy started laughing, much harder than he had a moment ago. “It’s oil. It’s for frying things in. Not for eating plain.”

Alden stared at him. “You’ve been sitting here watching me eat a cup of pure fat!”

“I thought maybe humans enjoyed that. You had so many bites.”

“We don’t enjoy that.” Alden was aghast. “I’ve almost finished the whole container!”

Stuart laughed so hard he looked like he was about to topple over.

“What is this going to do to my stomach?!”

“I don’t know what it will do to you,” said Stuart. “If you were an Artonan…ha!…if you were an Artonan it would probably make you shitty.

Stu-art’h!” 

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“I wanted to ask you,” said Alden, as they collected the supplies and the broken blocks for their trip back to the house, “if I can call you Stu. If it’s not all right yet, you can say so.”

The Artonan gave him a baffled look. “Obviously you can. I do like the special human name you’ve given me, though. Many people call me Stu. Nobody else calls me Stuart.”

“Oh…I…”

Started doing that a couple of minutes after I met you. When I thought you were a total dumbass.

“You only purposefully mispronounce my name and Kivb-ee’s. It’s so nice.”

“I’ll keep doing it then. Thank you. Stuart.”

Stuart nodded. “I guess Worli Ro-den asked you to mispronounce his, too. Joe.”

“He’s not Joe anymore,” said Alden, dragging the remains of the burst sackfruit over to the casting stone. “He’s lost the honor of being called Joe. Do you know he’s on Earth right now?”

“I recommended he go there,” said Stuart. “He was the most powerful wizard I was sure I could talk into leaving right away.”

Alden stopped dragging. The sackfruit tentacle felt like a giant gummy bear in his hand. “You sent him to help Anesidora?”

“I respectfully suggested…”

“Stuart, Ro-den’s a jackass, but he’s been a huge help. And you’re cool as fuck. Do look up all of those English words by the way. I’ll help you figure out the internet.”

“I don’t have trouble with the internet.”

“I’ll help you figure it out.”

“I’m not struggling.”

Alden’s stomach made a disgusting gurgling sound.


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Notes:

Rityan/ Artonan Language -- It's been mentioned just a couple of times so far, but the modern spoken Artonan language actually has a much larger vocabulary, with a lot more synonyms and very specific words than English. They've unified several old languages in an inclusive, rather than exclusive, way. It's one of the reasons it's so difficult for humans to learn. Rityan was an old Artonan language that remains preserved in a complete enough form within modern Artonan for someone to choose to speak it almost exclusively and still be universally understood.

Comments

JustMe

Thank you, Sleyca. Best part of my Monday

hmDrake

Thanks!

Anthony Lutz

damn your early... im still at work! how am I supposed to read!

Garrett

Thank you for the chapter!

ImNotHere

Thank you for the chapter And early enough for you to have a good rest!

SkyGold

Thank you Sleyca! Your work is always a pleasure to read

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Only just started the chapter, but I wonder if it’s common knowledge among artonans that Avowed get their initial skills randomly assigned without much accompanying info or system advice, and have just a few months to try to convince other people to swap with them

Super Super Supportive Supporter

> greasy, tasteless pudding Maybe he just grabbed a jar of the artonan equivalent of solidified coconut oil

Vivian Schaefer

OMG poor Aldens stomach. Thank you for the chapter! I loved it

Jerkface

Just wait till Stuart visits and Alden feeds him a tin of crisco.

YeetimusMaximus

Stuart: "And it was in these trying and desperate times when my parents started fucking. That is how i was conceived" o_o

hmDrake

Man Stuart, that is rough...

Sesharan

Haha this is fine

Efram Manechiwz

So Stu was just as broken as Alden. Hopefully he gets Alden to agree to see the mind healer. Although I wonder if they have confidentiality exceptions, like a case when a resource world avowed actually has an authority sense and has already affixed

Bob Ross

What the ever loving oh my god. The balance of horror and wholesome is remarkable. Thank you!

Jazehiah

Oh, thank goodness. I can finally stop feeling bad whenever I write "Stuart" instead of "Stu-art'h."

Matt DiMeo

That’s rough, buddy.

Bryan Thew

Ha early check pays off. Yum

Batty Corvina

Ohno..... The oil pudding. 🙈 Thanks for the chapter! I can now see why the people around Stu worry about him affixing... If he grew up not being able to handle any kind of negative experience due to how sheltered he was by his mother's magic... Affixing is so incredibly uncomfortable that I'm now worried for him too, even if he's gotten past most of it. No wonder Jeneth had to take a break after the news.

Jinjitsu

Wow this is some insane backstory. I'm wondering if Alden now will start to consider to expand his skill to emotianal burdens to assist Stuart or Jeneth-art'h or people in situations like them. Although that would be faaaar into the future.

cafenacet

what the fuck Sleyca. you can't do this to us

Phoenix

Holy cow we get hit with some serious backstory! Thank you!

March Parabola

Thank you for the chapter. Jesus christ Sleyca this is some A+ horror shit. God damn.

Lee

Thank you for the chapter. This is probably my most favorite chapter yet. Full of world building, expanding on a character's background, combining humor and horror with friendship and magic.

SnuggleCat

Poor Stu 😭😭 I cracked up at Alden eating nearly a whole jar of cooking oil, though

Tungsten

HOLY SHIT

puppy0cam

It sounds to me like Stuart has an "inheritance" in a similar fashion to what Alden got from Gorgon

Big casino

That was great. Honestly kind of creepy even. Like a good horror story.

Obran

I thought Lard, but realized his Gremlin wouldn't let him eat it.

Baines

what a beautiful chapter, but why you gotta hit us with those emotional sledge hammers Sleyca

David

This puts the incident where he refused to have his foot healed in an entirely different light

Carl Earl

Thank you for the birthday soup. This was exactly what I needed today.

David

I called this last chapter, and nobody listened. Vindication!

Baines

at least the Moon would still be alive, what a tragic way to lose your mother

Guus van der Borg

Okay, that rules out the 'Stuart was born without a split mind' theory. ...Not entirely sure if it rules out him not having a split mind after 'the event'. There's not really anything that outright disproves or proves it, imo. But there IS another mention of Stuart wanting to split his attention between two things and not doing it. Which could be politeness again... Having a pet theory is very frustrating when it keeps getting close to being disproven, but not quite.

Baines

strongest man in the tri-planets and he was unable to save his wife or daughter and not for anything he did wrong either

Guus van der Borg

I also wonder if that is the way it is done on every planet. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole lottery -> trading thing is designed specifically to keep human nature in mind. Probably even in tandem with human governments.

Baines

it felt so natural for this to drop here too, I like the lead in that is outside of the convo but you later know it was on Stu's mind

Baines

maybe literally if that poop he's about to have is used to fertilize any of those special trees (reusing waste water feels like something the Artonan's would do)

ImNotHere

I cried and I laughed Thank you Sleyca

Manfredi

Bloody horrifying. Good job.

Baines

seems like a no, I don't think Stu would be inconsiderate of Alden and he's said nothing to the effect

JustMe

Okayyy, tragic and dramatic backstory? Check. Did not expect to get that today. I want to give Stu a long hug

Trevor Perry

Omg I gagged when I realized it was lard! Thanks for the chapter

Stylemys

I wonder how Boe’s power compares to the feel-only-good-vibes effect that Stu was under. Boe can’t make people completely forget what’s happened, but he can mute the bad emotions directly.

Eddie

Insane chapter. I really hope Alden opens up to Stu now, too. It feels like such a good time narratively--both friends pouring their hearts out to each other--though I have no idea what ramifications there would be for aldens intensity 4 lifestyle if he does open up.

Cayos

Fantastic and horrifying at the same time. Great chapter

Sinnohan

The yogurt was oil. ROFL. That reminds me of an ice cream/butter incident. (A buffet had several types of butter and someone I know filled a bowl with them thinking it was ice cream)

VP

I think it might be move evidence for the theory! We know half of his mind was still ensnared by the illusion. Maybe the healers suggested a lobotomy to make sure at least half of Stu could live in the real world

ImNotHere

I still see some possibilities : - lost second focus when healed from the residual mind trap (he does not have vision anymore) - still has it but don't use it as the mind trap is on it (the mind healer could only move all on one side for his mother skill was too strong/deep to remove) - consequence of Sina release (it is refered as his worst day by Mother)

Guus van der Borg

'“Your skill is weaker when it’s being used for things that are less itself,” he said.' I think a more 'in the know'/less currently excited about showing off his future skill artonan would definitely see this statement of Alden as a hint that he knows more than he's letting on. I wonder if Stuart caught the significance of it?

VP

I love you can tell this will be one of those chapters people will keep using during arguments, like the Mother chapters. My apologies to all Knights Skills = 300. You are still wrong, but you were right in that there is some kind of list to choose from.

Restless LEGO

Maybe, but whereas Gorgon’s inheritance seemed centred on Alden’s sense of ‘self’ and authority, Stuart’s inheritance seems to affect his mind and perception. I believe other comments have mentioned how Stuart doesn’t split his focus like a lot of other Artonan’s do, and yet in the flashback he does.

Kahandran

Holy shit, what an insane backstory. It could easily have been a couple chapters or a short story, but I respect that it’s been condensed into a single chapter. No wonder Stuart’s family is so worried about him! He was raised not knowing pain, only to choose for himself the life path with the MOST possible pain. The more time goes on, the more I respect Jeneth. And all the rest of the knights, too. Now I’m curious. How many knights are there at any one time? We're drawing from three (or more?) planets' worth of martyr wizards, so I’d expect there to be quite a few, but after this chapter, I may need to reassess. There are a few hundred of the “original” skills (can’t recall the exact number), and given all things being equal, they should all get cycled through consistently, but Stuart implies that certain skills are favored over others. I’d guess that there are a dozen or so skills that output consistent results in the fight against chaos and thus are chosen more often by knights, leaving the skills with higher chances for personalizations to be picked by the oddballs. Alden’s BoaB is likely a heavily personalized skill. Even so, I’d think each of the skills would get chosen eventually… so maybe a few thousand knights? And while I’m on the subject, what’s the population of the Triplanets/Artonan protectorate planets? What sort of galactic acreage are we talking? Now I'm getting sidetracked. Great chapter!!!

Zachary Sloan

You're confusing Skills with classes. Classes like Rabbit/Brute/etc are randomly assigned, but you can choose your Skills (and spell impressions).

rioteer_0

For all that Stuart had given vibes of having some variety of autism spectrum disorder or the Artonan equivalent, I'll admit I hadn't anticipated child him having tactile sensitivities and social-emotional difficulties due to LITERALLY never encountering noxious stimuli as a kid. He's honestly doing pretty well, considering.

JennP

I really love this chapter. I lked Stu before, but now if anything happens to him I'll probably go into mourning. I guess this explains why the death of his sister was so much more devastating for him tham for the other kids in his family.

Stylemys

Didn’t Liam’s sister have a Skill that was all about forming connections between two things? Is it possible that she also stumbled onto one of the original 300 skills too? She might only be using a small aspect of the overall skill right now without realizing it. It’d be like she’s starting the engine on a semi-truck just to listen to the radio.

Desert Yeti

Stuart's mother is the anti-Connie. The one who loved and cared so much that Stuart never learned about hardship. Hell of a pair of friends.

Obran

Somewhat surprised none of Alden’s friends have checked in on him.

Desert Yeti

Don't forget the implication that Stu could have had a skill *custom designed* for him. Explains in part where the huge list of skills comes from.

JennP

and before Alden can tell Stu anything, he has to spend the rest of the day in the bathroom

Stylemys

He does have Authority of very uncommon quality and a very pronounced Authority sense. Stu got a good read on Alden in a chaotic situation while bleeding out. The Primary had to quietly hold Alden’s hands to verify it himself.

JennP

Me, too! Do you think that would offend or confuse an Artonem?

JJR Killjoy

Nothing more relatable than dropping massive bombs in casual conversation, and then trauma dumping on a new friend.

Julian Bello

Here we have a saying, "A cada Guaraguao le llega su pitirre". That roughly means that "every falcon has it's flitcher(that will kill him)". Every giant will be undone by someone smaller. It's a bit more than that, more ying yang, and a tool for the job, the inevitability of truth coming up. It's a saying(refrán), they have lots of interpretations. Still, through all that the Primarie's first skill reminds me of it. A cada Guaraguao le llega su pitirre.

Zenty

RIP Alden's stomach, thank you for your noble sacrifice, you will be remembered.

Obran

Not sire I understand. Eventually Stuart will be able to use his talent for space exploration? Yet instead of a worm hole from point a to be, the spell clears a path for the object to follow. Correct? So if Stuart uses his skill to travel to earth, using his skill, he will leave little Stuart shaped tunnels through every planet, sun, asteroid, between Attonia and Earth?

JM O'Hare

It is unclear if personalisations persist with the skill after the user dies, assuming there can only be 1 person with the skill.

Josh Delgado42

I treasure the moments when a story makes me stop and think. And this chapter was a thinker. I loved how you portrayed Stuart's memories of his early childhood, and how his hallucinations had manifested. It's amazing how this puts everything about Stuart into context, and really highlights how both Stuart and Alden have gone through a lot. It seems too much for any one person to bear, yet they both have managed to persevere through it. I'll admit, it took me to the third flashback when the mother teleported for me to realize that he was seeing hallucinations of his mother, and that made me stop in a mixture of shock and horror. And on top of that Stuart drops the bomb that his father killed his mother out of kindness and that a wizard had transformed into a demon. Yeah, this chapter was a doozey. Thank you for the chapter!

Anita

Stus' history kinda blindsided me. I think I need at least half of day to digest this. The level of heartbreak is astounding. From his mother's love and mind trap to the anguish jeneth must've been feeling when he found him. his desire to save his son and realising it meant killing iella and actually going through with it before she panicked , that's way beyond intensity level 99.9. that's like way over that. He must've had hope he could save them both at the beginning. When she was starting to think he was a threat, his mind must've asked itself ' who do you save '? If the knights have to go through these type of situations in their lives I can totally see the reverence. And Aldens reluctance to join them when he's only a teenager.

JM O'Hare

Definitely not, this chapter confirms the theory that he cannot / does not split his mind, with the added context that he used to be able to do it. In his backstory at the start we have: “He decided to think about his new spell with one half of his attention and listen for the familiar sound of her approaching footsteps with the other.” Whereas shortly thereafter we have: “Now, Stuart was standing beside his magical handiwork. He kept looking from his bean bullet—still in its landing spot beside its partner—to Alden like he couldn’t decide which one was more worthy of his attention.” Whatever the reason may be, he does not split his attention anymore.

Aetheo

Artona and Earth aren't in the same realspace, they're alternate dimensions (in some sense). Travelling from Earth to the Griveck home planet might make a statue-sized hole in Artona, but I think as the skill expands there are probably ways to minimize that.

Guus van der Borg

@Jim I'd call that additional evidence, but hardly confirmation. Sometimes I feel like Sleyca is messing with us on purpose. :)

BeautifulBusinessBoi

I can understand why Stuart’s family/fellow knights are nervous about him affixing with his mind being unstable from having holes in it and other tragedies 👀 On the other hand, he’s already gone through a lot of emotional, physical, and existential pain when the perfect shell his mother created for him shattered and now he lives in the real world which constantly bears down on him. He’s basically felt like what is is to affix when he was a child and he’s still persevering and ready to do it again. This awful experience could actually make him uniquely qualified to be a hyn’tyon!

Jazehiah

I can see why Stuart's family thinks he won't be able to handle knighthood. On the other hand, learning about pain and discomfort at a later age may have made him more prepared than most for the role.

Lee

Rereading the chapter knowing what his mom did to him ...what a terrifying thing to have your thought pruned and curated even if only with happy memories. Stuart's mom reminds me of Inception where the wife is so convinced they have to die to return to reality.

David

The scariest part about this chapter, to me, isn’t even the stuff relating to Stuart, which — don’t get me wrong — is horrifying to the last detail. I’d always thought that the elite knights were more or less untouchable outside of the occasional planet-eating demons. I thought that their careers ended on their own terms. But the way this story went down, they sent a bunch of top-100 knights after a lone demon produced by a random wizard, and they still took heavy casualties. And then at the end, with Stuart’s father killing his mother so decisively, and the way Stuart is so casual about it… I don’t think this is an uncommon outcome. I’m sure demons like this are really rare. But, if each one takes a tithe of the knights’ top talents, then I can see why Artonan society has historical trends of conscription.

Temp One

How messed up would it be if Stu's Mom was actually on to something, and the demon actually did escape the planet? That Jeneth didn't find remains intact enough to identify the Demon sets off some huge alarm bells for me.

Ali Yang

This chapter was wild. Finally cemented the fact that the Primary is totally an anime protagonist for having a skill for attacking his opps strong point with his strong point. I also loved the abrupt and off-kilter segues that Stuart had throughout the chapter from 'yeah and that's how my dad killed my ma' to 'and then they started fucking' lol. Damn the Primary has gone through a lot. Is he just waiting for someone strong enough to take the mantle so he can retire? The PTSD is probably way too real for him.

Guus van der Borg

Assuming Evul is the lowest rank knight, then 2761. But somehow I doubt Evul is the lowest ranked. So I'm guessing at least 5000. I doubt it will be in the order of 100.000s. Probably in the order of 10.000s.

Tungsten

this chapter is incredible

Mack

This is great. I love watching the primary be a dad.

David

[Given Stu-art’h’s general intensity level, Alden had been afraid that he might have chosen something insane for himself. Like a skill called I Cut Off My Own Fingers in Exchange for Making Mountains Explode.] Sometimes I forget that Soup is actually a cultivation novel in disguise

Markus

Why? Alden is going to a famous school for power development. Why should they not have figured out that skills could have harder time doing stuff not related to itself.

PatienceHoney

This was an amazingly beautiful chapter. Thank you. ❤️❤️❤️

Alberto Muñiz

"As the corruption increased, two of the three he traveled with became too weak to continue. They attempted a teleportation ritual, to send those two back home. It’s not easy to do from a place like that, and though the Contract here on Artona I did register a possible teleportation attempt and try to stabilize it…it failed." Oh, I just realized. Stu's skill is one that would have helped them escape in that situation. Very appropriate skill indeed.

Hallow

Thank you for the chapter, it was wonderful.

BonusWellSpent

Do we know how old Stuart was in the flashback?

JustMe

I am not even sure if Stu would enjoy that type of physical touch anymore :((

Guus van der Borg

Because humans don't talk in terms of skills being 'themselves'. Remember, humans thought the artonan that first explained magic to them as being an arrogant jerk when he called magic 'asserting yourself'. Humans, even most of them at talent development schools, tend to think of skills as rigid things with power levels. Not as things that can be more or less 'themselves'. Not helped by the fact that most avowed skills ARE that rigid. Remember, most skills are the equivalent of a wizard's end of year college project. Most skills given to humans aren't versatile enough for any of this to matter. And it's heavily influenced how humans think of skills. Alden 'just happens' to have a skill that allows him to relate to knight skills, and he isn't supposed to know that.

Markus

That is few. Having less than a million elite troups to defend three main worlds and their moons, expanding to new areas, or connect earlier disconnected worlds, and defend the servant worlds. No wonder they are stretched thin.

Curtis

I don’t think so. Stuart cast this as a spell - I think it’s the simplest possible version of the skill. Moreover he said the motion and destruction aspect are important parts of how it works. Removing them would require additional facets, which would require she not just have one of the 300 but also understand how it works.

BelligerentGnu

In which Stuart doesn't so much wear his heart on his sleeve but clutch it in his fist and wave it like a pom-pom.

Sphyrna

The ups and downs I felt this chapter make it very happy-sad to me. Thank you very much, Sleyca, even though I still don‘t exactly know if I should be thankful for such an emotional rollercoaster.

Curtis

@JM We already knew that Stuart can’t split his vision, however it’s still unclear if he can split his attention. In one of his calls with Alden he was able to maintain a conversation whilst hand casting. Alden specifically called this out as a sign Stuart can do split attention, even though he can’t do split vision.

Guus van der Borg

I think part of the point of the Family Matters chapters was to show that post-catastrophe, everyone but Alden had a 'surviving a disaster makes you want to be with your family' moment. So the rest are probably too busy having wholesome family moments to think about Alden. I think Lexi already knew what would happen with Alden on some level though, as he offered to share his family moment. But I bet Lexi is also the type of person that would leave you alone if you reject the initial offer.

Snugglebadger

How can it be wholesome and awkward and funny and horrifying? It shouldn't be able to be all those things. I wish I felt this way about the famous works we had to read in English class growing up, but they did nothing for me the way this story does. Chapters like this should win awards.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

When this story is done and published in 75 years, my great-great-grandchildren can read this in their English class, I will spend my retirement years campaigning to put this in the curriculum

Guus van der Borg

Do we KNOW he can't split his vision? As far as I know we just know he never does. I never jump off of a cliff, doesn't mean I can't... (a bit extreme of an analogy, I know. But I recommend avoiding jumping to conclusions. ....or off of cliffs.)

Justin

It is SO ONIONY in here. For real Alden better tell Stuart about his authority or I'm going to throw my phone through the wall.

Guus van der Borg

Hehe, artists scoff at it for very good reasons, but exposure isn't useless either. Without Royal Road I wouldn't have known to come here to support her. So they did something as well. :)

Curtis

I think the whole class system is actually a compromise for those sensibilities. The most efficient thing would be for the Triplanets to dictate precise skill/spell/stat load outs for each avowed. But Artonans feel uncomfortable with that. On the other hand, complete freedom of choice would lead to an unacceptably high number of useless avowed builds. Hence classes. Freedom, but only within certain constraints.

Stylemys

This mind demon makes me wonder what an unholy disaster Boe would have become if he were demonized. Assuming that his Unique abilities form in the same way as his demon ones would have, Demon Boe would have the ability to wreck mental havoc somewhere, then disappear without a trace for months. It would be a nightmare just to track him down if you didn’t actually know how his [I Need a Break from People] skill worked.

Memoryofgold

okay, I see you cooking. that was wild

Will T.

i wonder if only learning rityan at first has effected stu's speech patterns compaired to other artonans his age.

Terrestrial_Biped

A couple of incidents with Stu look rather different with this new information. - When Stu thought Alden was a hallucination, there was probably a solid thirty seconds there where Stu was sure his entire life plan had just become obviously nonviable. But setting that aside, Stu would probably not have thought Alden was a hallucination unless he viewed Alden's return as a significant improvement in the world. His hallucinations were always kind to him. They always showed him a world more beautiful than reality. - When Stu told Alden that eating Cook of the Moment food 24/7 would damage the pleasure centers of his brain, he actually had some relevant personal experience to inform that opinion. - Is the portable grill spell Stu used on a rock a few chapters ago the same one he warmed a river rock with as a child in this chapter?

Pete

I guess that is one of the worst case childhoods for being able to handle knighthood

Guus van der Borg

Narratively it would work, if only it wasn't already established that there could be any number of people listening in. I'm still unsure if Alden will be telling Stuart everything anytime soon, but I'm pretty sure that he would want to do where he's reasonably certain nobody else is listening in.

Jake Lewis

Hey quick question, what the fuck

David

After rereading, I think the reason that Stu was being so uncomfortably forthright despite the horror of it all is that the healer of mind had to be extremely thorough when purging his mind of the snare. It reminds me of when Mother offered to take away Alden’s authority sense. She said that to do so, she’d have to take his memories as well. Something as traumatic as this would certainly leave deep scars, perhaps even reaching into the *self*. Perhaps the surgery needed to repair the damage left scars of its own, and the result has left Stuart incapable of feeling anything at all? Maybe the mind healer repurposed the mind snare to quarantine the memories and the mental consequences, and what we’re seeing here is Stu under its nullifying influence. Or maybe it had nothing to do with the healers at all. Maybe whatever construct or remnant of will his mother left behind was finally convinced that they had escaped after all, and she turned her efforts toward undoing the damage she had caused?

Guus van der Borg

I missed it on my first read, and second an third..., but I like this part of Stu describing his skill: 'denying everything else the right to occupy that space' Once more hitting home that the magic system is really about exerting a sort of divine authority on reality, rather than physically shaping it. Speed brutes don't move faster because they make themselves faster. No, they are simply exercising their authority to BE faster. It was also part of Alden' revelation of how foundation points work. They aren't wizards, they're clerics/minor gods. I dig it.

David

I always thought it was odd that Zeridee knew who Stuart was and that she cared so much about his comfort. But, with her family being knights, she would definitely know of such a dramatic story, and Stuart’s condition after being rescued would require a lot of accommodation from everyone and would engender a lot of sympathy…

sebsebs

One of the greatest chapters. Thank *you*. Have a nice week

payforthat

I think one half is damaged, not destroyed. The damaged half is probably incapable of complex emotional or subjective reasoning. So still good for spell casting, not so good for conversations and the like

Nathan

Thank you! Wow Stuart story is so tragic, I wonder how he's coping as a young adult.

John D Jones

Meanwhile, Stu-art'h has taken revenge for the gokoratch video by letting Alden eat Artonan Crisco. I kind of wish we could see the Primary again even though I know that he's probably really busy being Artonan Dwight D. Eisenhower.

PatienceHoney

I would add, not just his speech patterns, but his core world perspective as well. Maybe this is why Ritual and structure sooth him?

Curtis

The skill is named, its called Ensnarer of Minds

Sunden

Holy shit, I didn't even think of that but you're so right.

Obran

Not entirely sure I understand Stuart’s power. There seems to be a symbolic component to it. Stuart had a traumatic childhood where he was trapped in a reality of his mother’s making. He is looking for a way to cut through things. So I figure with typical artonian poetry, he might have the ability to create a Stuart shaped wormhole between a fictional reality of his mother’s (or someone else’s) making back into the real world. Which leads me to wonder. if Alden was a lot more powerful and poetic metaphors can become tangible things. The maybe hypothetically, Alden could “bearer of any burden” a trauma, then Stuart could wormhole that Trauma with Maker of Stuart Shaped Hokes away from Akden and into the Sun?

ImNotHere

On a new read knowing the story, this hurts even more [“I wanted to be able to cut through things,” he said after a moment. “But I didn’t want the skill to be built on a foundation of separation. Maker of Narrow Ways can be used for << severing, >> but it’s not for severing. The cutting is something that forms a connection, instead of something that breaks one. ]

Sloth

Thanks for the chapter Sleyca! Random question, but I was re-reading and noticed Hannah is using an earbud to talk to Cly in chapter 2. Is there a reason why she isn't using the System directly ? Is she using infogear ?

GryphonKnight

I had a bad habit of drinking from unlabeled containers as a child 🫙 This stopped when I accidentally drank cooking oil 🛢️

Curtis

@Guus Stuart not being able to split his vision or him just simply choosing to never do it are, in my mind, equally weird facts deserving of explanation.

wd40bomber7

Damn he has some insane back story...

Sunden

I love how Sleyca always manages to surprise us. Everyone over at the discord has been trying to piece together Stu's likely backstory for months and literally NONE of us were anywhere remotely close. I love that even though the story consistently throws us (or at least me) off it always does so in way that makes complete sense in retrospect. I always end up thinking something like "well OF COURSE that's what should have happened, how could I have ever thought otherwise?"

Tauwetter

Now I am worried Alden’s silence on his Authority sense could break Stuart. Imagine he learns about it at some point through a third party. He shared his deepest pains with Alden, who is probably his first friend outside of his family, and then realizes that Alden kept this huge part of shared suffering to himself. I understand Alden isn’t ready yet, he had far less time and support to come to grips with all the implications. And the knight rapport might not be the best place to share this secret if he wants to stay a quite rabbit a little longer.

CentaureHeart

Damn, that was heavy (as is all that oil in Aldrn's stomach) ! I just want Alden to talk to Stuart about his parents and his skill now. Trauma for trauma, skill for skill.

Thomas Todd

God damn that was an awesome and heartbreaking chapter, well done Sleyca. Although I think you need to lose custody of these characters, they e been through enough!!!!!!!

PatienceHoney

I don't think Alden would be allowed to eat lard. It was most likely a plant based oil.

FrostBite

Can’t believe the primary is literally sukuna. Great chapter, the craziness of his mom is not to be underestimated. I’m curious how this plays into everyone’s worry of his affixiation.

Michaellogan

@Guus van der Borg While that may be true you need to remember that Stuart is still an Artonian teenager. He said previously, while watching the duels footage that he doesn’t know much when it comes to Earths Anvowed. It’s also likely that he doesn’t know much when it comes to the level of knowledge that other species have about the Skills and the “Self”. So when he is speaking with Alden he most likely thinks that Alden is just more a knowledgeable Anvowed than normal. He just doesn’t know just how much more Alden knows.

Guus van der Borg

Fair enough, that's why I was only wondering if Stu picked up on it. In the end, I don't think he has though.

PatienceHoney

Good to know you are here to tell the tale. And can relate to what Alden is about to go through.

CentaureHeart

By the way, am I the only that read "My father's first skill"? Implying that the Primary has a second one?

Catherine

I began to wonder last chapter if she had perhaps been a friend of Sina’s and that’s why she knew about Stu and perhaps why she’s trying to change her class status

Guus van der Borg

Mother did say that knights tend to pick up a supporting skill or two over their career. Just that they mainly focus on their main one.

Guus van der Borg

I don't think Stuart will mind at all. He's consistently shown to think everything through from all angles. When Alden mentioned that he'd rather not be summoned by his friend he gave it a good thought and came to the conclusion that he could not promise not to summon him because of a few well thought out examples, even if it would hurt his friend. I think that if Alden explains why he didn't tell Stuart, he would realize that Alden had (well) thought out reasons for doing what he did, none of which are that he doesn't trust Stuart. Stuart would roll with it, I think.

Chip

Yes, it’s already been implied that the evolution of Alden’s skill could bear burdens of the mind back when he was discussing its evolution path with the Mother. I assume that his skill is of similar (same?) quality as the ones that Stuart was choosing from.

Noc

This chapter is amazing. The most beautiful. The legendary Sway knight was very scary, with all respect to your Mom, Stuart. I find it very interesting that Artonans don't normally encourage off brand skill usage, even in knights. I suppose if you have other options that are easier and cheaper, there's no need. Also, votaries. And the discussion of the nature of skills, that they are most effective when they are used to fulfill all aspects of their purpose... I wonder if that has parallels to how much authority a person may develop over their lives. Why is Lute an S rank and Hazel a B? I would say that Lute has worked hard to define himself and foster his unique traits, while Hazel has been stifled and defined by others. Anyway, the moral of the story is: don't avoid post trauma counseling, Alden! ... And I still don't understand how that supervisor was only penalized for 'consorting' with a demon.

LadyLark

So… Artonan is sorta like Chinese or Japanese?🧐

tdh

Amazing chapter! The scene about the fat made me laugh out loud. It was an amazing background story for Stuart, and it was a cool view into the dangers around being a sway.

Josh Brooks

Wooooooaaaaaahhhhhhh. Thank you, Sleyca!

Jeff Wells

Nah, these things aren't equivalent. Much better to share his experiences with his parents' deaths and his motivation for wanting to be a hero, which I believe he mostly already has. I don't think their relationship is particularly imbalanced. Stuart will probably be the first Artonan he tells about his wizard powers regardless, once he knows of it's safe to do so.

Tommy Mullane

Although I wouldn't want something like this all the time it's chapters like this that really elevate this story into something special. Thanks!

glow

Didn't we learn you need to be able to split your mind for many spells? And we know that Stuart is an EXCELLENT wizard with a lot of potential. That's a lot of evidence against him being unable to split his mind right off the bat. He was also able to follow Alden's lectures without a problem while still focusing on Alden and talking to him during one of their phone calls, something Alden wasn't able to do. I think Stuart can split his mind just like everyone else, but he prefers not to do it for whatever reason.

GryphonKnight

Have and have nots, Creating Joy, Best Friend Romance, Pacing, Slow Burn, Sharing Knife HAVE AND HAVE NOTS This chapter really brings home the Primary having vast resources at his disposal… …and still unable to guarantee a happy ending ( looking at you real world Billionaire divorces ) While Earth’s Kernel has very limited resources ( and freedom of action ), Gorgon is literally chained to a desk, and Kibby is a child, but all of them, and many others, have helped Alden live his best life 💸 CREATING JOY Earth’s decision to create a gacha like video game out of Artonans restrictions ( similar to devs creating good games but still profitable enough for investors), Gorgon using the Artonan internet to find BoAB ( similar to disabled people creating flashlight review websites, knitting blogs, Vtube gaming channels, etc. ), Kibby helping Alden feel a friendly authority while surrounded by Chaos, Lute teaching Alden word chains, Haoyu showing how family and super heroes are not mutually exclusive, Lexi showing how a world full of super heroes, and villains, does not mean art is useless ( it’s not JUST loot, looking at you themed Batman villains ), and many others on the island creating joy ( in Natalie’s case, literally ) 🥰 BEST FRIEND ROMANCE Kernel I trying to get Stuart, and Alden, together reminds me a lot of a commoner/ noble romance Disney’s Genie setting up Aladdin and Jasmine Lois McMaster Bujold’s Aral Vorkosigan setting up Oliver and Cordelia ( Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen ) Sleyca’s Alden setting up Emilija and Lute Disney, is just retelling a fairy tale ( maybe sneaking through the city? ) Bujold, does a great job of showing best friends being partners ( sailing! ) I have high hopes for Sleyca ( hot tubs? wright amusement park attractions? Umami food plates? ) 🧞‍♂️⛵️👙 PACING I think the tone of romance comes from the writing pace A Cultivation novel seeks the next level up A Spy novel the next mission A cozy mystery the next weird death 📈🕵️‍♀️💀 SLOW BURN Romance novels ( my parents library was eventually split between romance and scifi/ fantasy, many books being both ) explore each MC, their relationship to each other, their families and the world 1+1=2💍🧑‍🧑‍🧒🗺️🌎🌍🌏 SHARING KNIFE Bujold’s Sharing Knife series being a master class, including how to write plot relevant, explicit sex scenes ( the author interviews about that were fascinating ) 👑👩‍🏫

Anthony Lutz

I'd always thought it was just simply experiencing constant unavoidable ache/pain that would be like post-affixation pain to prepare. but the backstory really shows us what one of the "multiple long considered personal reasons" for doing it were.

Listerine

Sleyca confirmed at some point that Artonans can be huggy. And baby Stu is pretty affectionate here too

Aspiring Moth

with even more component language diversity probably. they were multi planetary before the language unification

Listerine

I think considering Stuart’s trauma, votary is actually rather unsuited for him. A life dedicated to easing someone else’s is a lot like what his mom did during her 24/7 mental breakdown. The shadow of that might well cast over his work forever if he’d picked it.

JJ Hunter

Oh heck, crying the good tears again and wheezing laughter into a handy pillow so I don't wake up my housemate. You are amazing at hitting the range, finding where the pacing needs that release of laughter for the full impact to land. No wonder Stu wasn't allowed to have a ryeh-b't egg as a child. No wonder it feels like such an utter betrayal for most of his current caregivers to be revealing their previous encouragement of many possible futures, including hn'tyon, was more loving lie than truth. No wonder Alden and Alden's willingness to share his life back on his birthworld feels like such a breath of fresh air - Alden is willing to tell him real things, to touch him and swear in front of him and treat him like a tough, capable peer and friend. Alden even gave Stu a special nickname (I love that Stuart / Stu is treasuring being in the same category as Kibby and Joe). Alden claims Stuart as his friend even when he doesn't know Stu can hear him - so reassuring to someone who probably still wonders, occasionally, if he's still surrounded by loving lies or if he's living in the real world.

Anthony Lutz

I know how we all think that Joe is a Jackass, but i have to wonder if "Worli" was what/who caused the trail through the grass the "size of the armored car", while on Thegund back in CH46. because in CH66 when Alden is on the phone with him talking about the lab explosion... “I will swear on my life before the Grand Senate that it was a demon, Joe,” Alden said. “That’s noble of you.” “A big demon.” “Oh, she’s not that big.” “I didn’t know demons could be female, but sure. If you say so.” Alden always suspected/knew that people could become chaos abominations, which was confirmed in this chapter. Was Worli a wizard or just one of the staff helping at the lab before turning due to the grasshoppers. Was that the demon that the reason the vault existed in the lab.

TheLunaticCo

Clerics draw power from a divine source. Wizards reshape the world through will power. Gods are reality manifest. So no, they are wizards and yes I am a nerd.*Sorry I didn't mean to sound so confrontational! This is just my special interest.

Francis

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Francis

I'm super curious now. What effects did his mother's "protection" have on Stu's mind after it was removed? I hope he explains during this trip and it isn't left for much later in the story

Ano Ano

Wow. Can't believe Alden was shoveling crisco into his mouth the whole time he was listening to Stuarts Inceptionesque tragic backstory.

Adam Andersson

Speed brutes are all about travel, with some eventually being able to teleport and shit, so it sounds more like they deny distance than enforcing their ability to move faster.

JJ Hunter

No wonder Sina Stu-art'h made such a firm commitment to not lying even in the little things from a young age that he's absolutely terrible at it now. (“I have endeavored not to do it for so long that I believe I have lost the << knack >> for it,” he said faintly. “If I ever possessed it.”)

Partha Peddi

Since Sleyca clarified, I accept the fact that Knight skills are different from the 300 original Avoved skills. It seems like Knight skills are meant to get stronger over time rather than more versatile like the 300. Even the primary has more than 1 skill affixation, which goes contrary to the logic of not taking any other skills to nurture one of the original 300 (by an avoved) with all available authority to grow it alone.

Francis

And both Stu and Alden had the experience to be torn from a perfect or almost perfect life into a horrible reality

JJ Hunter

My suspicion is that Stu had an easier time as a child spotting when a hallucination was a hallucination if he kept both eyes and both minds on what he was focusing on. So it became a strong habit, and one he is reluctant to break in case that lets the hallucinations come back.

JJ Hunter

@JennP, Maybe Stu will help with an unruly stomache pacifier spell!

DAK

I’d always assumed they were just doing a deadpan bit about Kibby being the ‘demon’ that blew up the lab.

A Free Skeleton

Worst...or best? One of the tough things about being a knight is that you have to endure sudden, endless suffering of a type you never knew was possible. Unlike every other knight candidate Stuart already did that once, and while I won't say he's fine, he's coping with it. I could imagine this going horribly wrong but in some ways Stuart is one of the most qualified candidates the knights ever had.

Francis

It could be that the one half is only capable of certain functions even. The emotional parts could be damaged, but not the rest

Anthony Lutz

They were doing a bit. It was just as much kibbys idea to explode the lab as Joe's idea. But kibby didnt want to cause issues for joe. But they were generally discussing thr possibilities of demonisation during their time in the lab. And alden did "see something big"

Francis

I think it is the first time Alden has met someone who has been through as much as he has himself!

Francis

And given Jeneth's bond with Stu and his mom and how lovable Stu was as a boy, I'm fairly sure Stu is the child he is most fond of

DAK

Turns out an artonan dome down by the river is 99.9 times more intense than a human van down by the river. Also. I saw that lunch-o-lard punchline coming the entire time and I still laughed when it happened. You just can’t go wrong with some of the old cross cultural hits.

Llainway

Thankyou very much!

Francis

I hope Alden can share some of his feelings about Roden and how he also hated to be coddled by Ghosten and Klein after the disaster. Stu would truly understand.

Clint

“The behavior of demons is a never-ending subject of research,” Stuart said to Alden. “But the ones that are prone to <> often have stubborn <> and urges that might be called goals…” This bit made me wonder if Stu’s mom was infected and was somewhere along the demon spectrum, or just straight up a demon. If her obsession was protecting Stu, he could be wandering around a chaos hellscape and thinking it was paradise. Imagine Jeneth showing up to find *that*. But I think that can’t be right, because affixation should prevent demonification, right??

Francis

I also just realised that all of the potential most powerful characters in this story have super tragic backstories. Usually those are only reserved for the protagonist! Boe probably had abusive parents he accidentally lobotomised. Lute was betrayed and used by his family in a ghastly manner. And Kibby, Alden and Stu I don't have to explain. Every single one of them lost their parent(s) literally or metaphorically . So sorry Haoyu and Lexi, I'm afraid you are not going to be part of the main party years from now. At most you will be backup

Tauwetter (edited)

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2024-06-24 11:08:54 I wonder if Tuyets brother is in a similar situation as Stuart mom. Mental breakdowns of sways appears to be much more dangerous than other avowed, they kinda start to sway themselves? I hope that has been properly communicated to humanity and healer of minds know what to look for.
2024-06-24 11:05:32 I wonder if Tuyets brother is in a similar situation as Stuarts mom. Mental breakdowns of sways appears to be much more dangerous than other avowed, they kinda start to sway themselves? I hope that has been properly communicated to humanity and healers of mind know what to look for.

I wonder if Tuyets brother is in a similar situation as Stuarts mom. Mental breakdowns of sways appears to be much more dangerous than other avowed, they kinda start to sway themselves? I hope that has been properly communicated to humanity and healers of mind know what to look for.

JJ Hunter

I am having such sympathy for Zeridee's sudden 'oh shit' moment when she learns Alden is a friend of Stu's. Her information about Stu is likely quite outdated given her posting, and she is clearly operating on 'if Stu-art'h has another loss like Sina's the *Primary* may weep' -type logic. No wonder she was willing to take murderous Avowed on bare-handed and send cryptic messages to summon knightly aid, the amount of responsibility she was feeling must have shot through the roof and then some there.

Calvin

Huh, knowing his background I can see why Stuart decided to not fully heal his leg for a few months to "contemplate the pain" now

Alex Iskandar

If he is even willing to do that in the first place. From his interaction with Emban his cousin, I think he'd instead be savagely honest rather than comforting lol.

Hyacinth

That was. Wow. Stuart? Stuart’s mother! The… everything! So many bombshells. I probably feel the same way Alden does right now, which is something. That was surreal.

Sesharan

It’s very interesting to reread “Made for a Saint” (the RR chapter that just went up) in light of how Stuart talks about his skill in this chapter. Alden’s been worried about how Bearer is pushing him in the direction of becoming more self-sacrificial, but now he knows that there’s a certain element of personalization and interpretation involved in that process. Rather than giving in to the self-sacrifice, he could lean Himself towards aligning more with, say, the elements of choice and protection that are just as fundamental to the skill.

RainbowPhaze

We already knew Knights typically pick up a couple minor skills to support their main one, it's not a surprise. Also, we know that Knight skills DO get more versatile over time as well.

Clint

Hallucinatory world is such a twisted backstory. It makes his mom’s insanity plausible. It makes him fall back on “oh, I’m hallucinating.” when Alden shows up at the Rapport. There must be moments when he wonders if everything he thinks he knows is just a hallucination and he’s actually just an oblivious kid wandering around a chaos moon. Poor Stu. Epistemological horror is the absolute worst. I wonder if authority sense cuts through that, like authority is more real than anything else.

Hyacinth

And their whole interaction is still so wholesome and… ordinary? The setting is somehow both at odds with the backstory and yet perfectly in line with Stuart’s personality.

JJ Hunter

Whatever happened to Boe's parents with Boe is going to be some horrifying inversion of this, isn't it. What an << agonyscape >>.

Sesharan

In fairness, Lexi had his whole “watching his life slowly fall apart for fourteen months” thing. And Haoyu has had to repeatedly come to terms with the very real possibility that his parents could die. Their backstories are a little less dramatic, but there’s a definite element of tragedy.

Francis

True, true. They just didn't "lose" their families, but had the threat thereof

DAK

I recall when Gorgon met up with Alden after the Kibby Blood Ritual, and he was almost dismissive about how bad the chaos was in Thegund—‘more of a chaos breeze’. Kind of drove home just how horrible this universe must get…

Fabian

Stopping your child from developing. Damn that's evil.

JustMe

That's why I said anymore. Trauma can change people

Clint

Tftc, Sleyca. Equal parts horrifying, touching, and grounded. Great writing.

SunderGoldmane

Future plot point: stu could cast narrow ways on the foot bone alden has to teleport to him or him to Stu.

JJ Hunter

Trying to shelter your unborn child from a chaos demon of apocalyptic proportions with the main skill you have, while separating yourself from your lover just in case your child turns into a chaos-shedding perversion anyway and you have to make the agonizing choice. Continuing that choice after birth because you've become so damaged yourself that you can't tell what's real anymore and you think you're both still in existential danger if your vigilance relaxes even for the slightest second. Your purpose narrowed to maintaining this one last holdout, this one last precious life that must not be exposed to a fate worse than death. You continue, trapped in the trauma, maintaining the safe bubble for your child of all the beautiful things you can no longer trust are available, waiting...and waiting...and waiting... The effect was horrific. What happened to Iella, and what she chose to do to protect Stu in the reality she had access to, comes across as more tragic than evil to me. (The wizard who went so perverse they turned chaos-generating abomination, on the other hand...!)

Shimelton

That was so… very tragic

Mack

I’m guessing about 5 if he was Human— he’s got clear thought processes, etc. but he feels younger because he is so sheltered.

Calibri

Holy shit Stuart

JJ Hunter

*stares at what happened to Will re: suddenly deciding to use the Submerger to attack Matadero.* *stares at the implications of Orpheus - whose namesake traveled to the underworld for the sake of love and looked back and lost all - who cannot remember stealing the Submerger from its Wrightmade vault or how it was done* *stares at Jacob, who had a Gloss-like experience of everything falling into place as soon as he decided to sign on with SAL to escape* *squints suspiciously at Stu's backstory involving a wizard obsessed with the field of mind manipulation falling into perversion and becoming a super demon and not having identifiable last remnants at time of destruction* That mind manipulation -obsessed super demon is definitely super dead, right? ...right???

Fabian

It's understandable to want to protect ones' children. But she set herself up as the sole arbiter of safety and reality. Leneth could have helped. Artonan society could have helped. Leneth could have grown. He had a right to know, to be there with her for their son. Instead, she set herself up to fail and to get worse, and she took Stuart with her, risking him in the process. And that is exactly what happened. Her own choice of wanting sole control. Risking her own son was selfish and evil.

FuriousDee

So not quite just being on the spectrum or having only one mind like some people thought

Harmonica Man

I’m still hoping for a Joe redemption arc I always liked Joe

Nim

Huh, I wonder what it would sound like in English if someone only used words derived from a particular root language. I bet you could do it, if it were a major one, but it would sound super weird

DAK

@Anthony Lutz—sorry, got it. Yeah, the armored car sized demon tracks are/were definitely concerning, and it felt creepily off the scale in an infestation that was otherwise aimless grasshopper hell bees. Whatever it was, I’m sure you’re right that there’s more backstory with the Primary, Joe and whoever Worli was

Christine

Yes, that was my thought too! I hope Alden takes the knowledge Stuart gave him and redirects his skill as much as he can.

Maddy Weller

Oh wow, I knew something was up with Stu’s past, but that was so much worse than it could have been. And poor Alden’s stomach, hopefully they have some meds for him to make him have a less shitty time. Oof, eating a cup of cooking grease. He needs to learn that it’s okay to be slightly less polite sometimes.

Justin

That was a well written chapter of highs and lows. Stu had a tragic early life but gained a loving family. Comparing him and Alden isn't right for multiple reasons but Stu got family and a home after his which would go a long way for recovery. Spell is interesting and is it now Alden's time to share or is this a Stu moment and just let him have it?

Luck

Even if Earth and Artona shared the same realspace, the odds of hitting something in space when taking a straight line are extremely slim. As long as you don’t the moon, your odds of hitting something, even on a long journey, are basically zero.

Jean

Well. Now we know why Stuart thought Alden was a hallucination. How awesome. And I mean that in the more terrifying sense.

Ethan

I like that Stu’s mom was Rel’s teacher. Nice to see that I was not imagining things (maybe not the time to phrase it like that) when it seemed like Rel was paying extra attention to Stu.

Brandon Steele

Mind "magic" of any type in fantasy/sci-fi stories are the absolute worse. Not being able to trust my perception is definitely one of my greatest fears.

Guus van der Borg

Yeah, me too. Especially when the comments made me realize Joe is basically just pushing everyone away from him because he's depressed. Partially because he's under the mistaken belief that Stu volunteered him for Earth aid because he pitied him. Seeing a character remove himself from a story because he's depressed and misunderstanding feels... off.

JustMe

While I do think it is an interesting theory, wouldn't a demon that size be somewhat noticeable? At least to Mother or any of the other contracts if it is directly interfering. If not/if it can manipulate everyone's senses,, it is probably beyond anyone to deal with. That is a scary thought.

Hailhound

Poor Alden. Poor emotionally shocked and overwhelmed Alden. Poor gassy, indigested, diarrheal Alden. And Alden’s poor cholesterol!

JustMe

Stu is clearly able to feel things. We had instances of pain, shame, and amusement. I think it's more likely that Stuart cannot / will no split his consciousness as a result. Alden has never seen Stubdo that, ever, and now we have a scene where he did it as a child while under the mind snare. Or were you referring to something else when you said "incapable of feeling anything at all"?

JustMe

I think that is the reason why the knight sometimes go through periods where they forcefully recruit people into becoming knights (maybe just their family?)

Leaf

That definitely needed a full week to cook. And it came out perfect.

Guus van der Borg

Also, semi-random thought. I doubt the entire class of Adjuster contains any of the 300 skills. Adjuster seems to be all about getting a good suite of spell impressions. Basically making you a Vancian mage. But spell impressions are, as explicitly mentioned multiple times, very rigid. Not very flexible in their application. So I doubt a knight (or pseudo knight avowed skill) will be willing to affix them.

William Johnson

Yep, they're stuck at intensity 99, they cannot turn it down. Thanks for the chapter!

Anon.

His stomach is going to be bearing all the burden

John D Jones

Poor Winston. Now the youngest son of the more important/powerful person in the universe knows that a ryeh-b't/rabbit "killed" him in gym class.

J Reynolds

There's an essay by Poul Anderson called "Uncleftish Beholding" which is kind of what you're looking for. It strips out all words that English acquired from other languages (French, Greek, Latin, etc) and replaces them with their Anglo-Saxon equivalents or near-equivalents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncleftish_Beholding

Jim

Thank you for the chapter! Masterful as always. I cannot imagine the angst that Jeneth-art'h has to constantly go through killing his loved ones. He must have a mind healer on retainer. It's so funny to me to see the dichotomy of Alden's opinion of Ro-den now and how he was thinking about him chapter 151 which is on RR right now.

SkySeeker

I tried to craft a witty reply using only English words of Germanic origin, but ran up against the limits of my knowledge. It should be possible to discuss basic topics that way, but many of our more complex, abstract, and intellectual words are borrowed from Romance languages, or Greek. (Edit: I wrote and posted this before I saw the other reply. Good stuff, J Reynolds!)

BaguaBrady

Wow, knowing more of the back story behind Stu's hallucinations puts quite the context on the Mother's choice to spring Alden on him post rescue. That was a risky play on her part!

CrispyCritter

I'm 99% sure that we'll see a lot more of Joe (and 80% sure that we'll find Joe's actions were correct.)

Matt DiMeo

The 300 skills were designed for avowed. Not Knights. They are different lists. Every single piece of evidence points that way.

The Ox

@Zachary Sloan, but only WHILE you are in the process of accepting assignment. There's no access or information to speak of about skills and/or spell impressions, especially for non-Anesidoran kids. The amount of time and information vs what Stu has is ridiculous.

The Ox

I think the memo "DON'T TELL THE HUMANS HOW AUTHORITY WORKS" isn't universally taught to Artonans in kindergarten. It's probably something mostly emphasized to the few wizards who are sent to Earth or are given Human summoning privileges. Clearly both Kibby and Stuart never got the memo.

Matt V

It could also be viewed from the flipside. Stu has already gone through something similar to affixing when his mother's hold over him was weakened/broken. Him consciously experiencing pain and discomfort for the first times like that may very well have prepared him better than any other soon-to-be-affixed wizard. I do get their trepidation, however, because you can never tell if that past trauma strengthened you or left a giant weak spot until it gets poked hard enough.

Anon.

English is also kinda goofy in that it basically doubles up on prefixes and suffixes, between Germanic and Romance ones!

The Ox

It doesn't have to be THAT demon. Just one with a similar "goal".

The Ox

Right, because Artonans are all about transparency and full disclosure. No danger there.

The butler did it

I wonder if Alden will need to rethink his Stuart/Internet strategy? It seems like protecting Stuart from the bad parts of Earth would be a good way to upset him.

Stylemys

I have no idea where you’re getting your evidence. The conversation Alden had with Mother indicated they were the same.

DAK

Like almost everything else about human skills, I rather suspect that it has NOT been properly communicated to humanity. There's probably a deeply insidious subplot involving Artonan use of magic resulting in an imbalance that is actually the prime spreader of chaos or something something something...but until we actually hear about it, one of the worst injustices in this story is the complete lack of guidance they give about skills. Kind of like promising a stone age civilization the key to space flight, and then fulfilling that by handing people across the globe random pieces of a junk yard airplane and walking away.

The Ox

I'm really stuck on the mind-trapping Demon/Former Wizard. It opens up a lot of questions about Demons, Wizards, Chaos, and missing Avowed like Hannah. Gorgon once said that high level Artonan Wizards routinely consort with Demons. Does that mean demons that used to be their own Wizard buddies? How the hell does that work? The existence of intelligent Demons has been mentioned in the text, but how they interact with the Tri-Planets has never been clear. How do wizards "consort" with them? How is that safe? Did Hannah become some blob of ooze that creates stasis zones in Chaos? There's such a stark contrast between the Knights like the Primary, Evul, Esh, etc and the general arrogant ass-hole attitude of the wizards at LeafSong. I'd really love to understand how the two sides reconcile with one another, and the state of the war vs Chaos. How bad is it? It seems like from the Tri-Planets view the problem is stable, but clearly they lose planets from time to time, and big numbers of hard-to-replace Knights. There is a subtext that Earth is very much in danger of being destroyed by Chaos, much sooner that any human has been told. It seems like exactly the kind of place the Tri-planets would send sketchy Wizards that might demonify randomly. Maybe.

QY

I wonder if the cut-off part of the mind can be preserved and used latter...Feel's like there's more to Stu's mother's legacy Also Chaos is like zombie virus? Turns one into (more or less) mindless bodies if not straight up killing the host.

David

I don’t mean in general, of course. It would only affect his feelings related to this incident

QY

Also the language barrior signaling the chaos slip through is an interesting topic...so an intelligent chaotic entity can directly manipulate/ possess minds? Another theory is that chaos is like the leftover/ primordial soup of recently corrupted ones... so whoever exposed/ contaminated will be mixed/influenced by memories of dead bits

Francis

A very many aspects of choas left to explore, indeed. Some other interesting tidbits in this chapter regarding that - the wizard became apocalypse level when he demonfied. I doubt a wizard could be that way before, if he wasn't a knight. So perhaps if they become more powerful, wizards could make deals with them to do them certain favours?

Zelosh

*Oh my god, Stuart.*

Francis

I'm wondering why prospective knights even consult family or friends about affixiation when they have Mother

Zelosh

I'm also trying to figure that out. Since she thought she was still trapped but had created a "bubble" of safety, maybe it was one of her tests to see if the safe-space had been penetrated by the enemy? If Stuart did things he didn't know how to do, it'd be a clear sign of mental manipulation. I shudder to think what would have happened if she thought Stuart had been affected by the enemy... even human mothers do some awful things under that much stress.

no

More specifically, gorgon says they regularly consort with "what some might call demons", IIRC. Maybe there are degrees to chaosification and some of them are within an acceptable range? Or maybe they're people like the thunder lettuce. Touched and mutated by chaos, but not actually actively spreading it.

Bonkney

Alis-art'h's (& Mother's) decisions to help Alden so much after Thegund make even more sense with this context.

Francis

Anglish is indeed a thing. Apparently Winston Churchill preferred to use anglo saxon words in his speeches. Those words are often shorter and thus has a bigger impact.

Zelosh

This is pretty complicated and I find it hard to begin to unravel it, but I would like to point out the distinction between Hannah and the mind wizard, given that a wizard's authority does not have a fixed shape. In fact, becoming an Avowed is supposed to prevent that sort of corruption from happening to free authority by binding it. So the fact that the mind wizard turned chaos demon still specializes in mind-based effects and magic implies that demons retain some twisted form of the original's knowledge/skills/personality/etc. After all, a wizard's authority is just... shapeless authority, as far as we understand it, with some differences here and there I suppose.

Bob Ross

During the ceremony that was the start of Stuart's choosing season, Rel was his instructor. The one who told some students to leave because they'd been crying or couldn't control themselves. Alden delivered a meal to him during his food service gig.

Curtis

Because Mother probably has the best interests of the Triplanets in mind, not your best interests. Maybe she thinks an 80% chance of survival is worth it, but your friends and family probably think a 20% chance of death is too risky.

Ian T Hathaway

“Obviously you can. I do like the special human name you’ve given me, though. Many people call me Stu. Nobody else calls me Stuart." Absolutely living for these unaware boyfriends

ImNotHere

[The child who lived in the dome by the river] should be related to [“The cottage I’ve claimed for you is my favorite of the empty ones. It’s near the stream.”]

Obbu

The early Stuart scenes hit a little differently, with this knowledge. Him trying to endure the pain of the lost foot as a sort of self-affirming test that he could both withstand the torture of affixation, but also to prove that he could comprehend and process pain properly (instead of being sheltered from it by his Mother). And him seeing Alden at his door, being worried that he had some residual mind trap issues lingering after all this time. It provides a lot more depth to his actions than just wanting to prove himself capable: knowing where the source of his doubts come from. The comparison between his mother's actions, and the potential for Bearer to take pain away from someone is also an interesting tidbit. Considering Stuart's phrasing (ch160) of "You can stop someone from being hurt by holding them in your arms.", that probably has a very heavy meaning for him.

Curtis

This particular demon could manipulate minds because "The one responsible for that breakthrough was probably a wizard who, before his fall, was obsessed with the field of mind manipulation." I don't think this would work as a signal to detect chaos in general, just the work of this very particular demon.

VP

The one mind could still happen. We have evidence he had two as bebe, but the healers might have had to sacrifice one half to help with the hallucinations and stuff

The Ox

@Zelosh I think my question about Hannah was more due to the fact that Avowed who lose assignment become abominations that require destruction, so they clearly become some form of active type of Corruption, or CAN become like that, vs just dying. Probably a corrupted Wizard demon becomes a different form of abomination than a corrupted Avowed, for sure. But it was interesting that the Demon still used magic similar to the type he specialized in as a wizard. Possibly a corrupted Avowed could use a corrupted form of thier Skill in a similar way.

S

I have to wonder where his opinion will finally land. He didn't know Joe was on Earth at Stuart's recommendation. And as wrongheaded and mean-mean as Joe was, he made an excellent point that - if Alden doesn't want things about himself publicized - they really shouldn't associate. That hurts -because there aren't many people Alden can be open and honest with - but it really is in what Alden has said is his best interest, and Joe is honoring that.

S

And I think if anyone asked Alden if he would make the same contract again - if he values what he got out of it - or if he got a fair value, he would say (hesitatingly) yes.

Kbzzy

Yeah I’ve been thinking about what characters, especially humans, will be relevant deep into the story and lute and Boe are definitely my best bets

Clint

Alternate spin: the youngest son of the primary knows who he is!

Jeremy Goldberg

It’s weird when you think about it that we have two words for removing someone’s head. Decapitate and behead. And when you think about it, shouldn’t the second word be “dehead?” Also: Thank you for the chapter!

denatured

Mother might also have some restrictions on the knowledge she can share.

Clint

It feels like a times for Alden to share his parallel traumas — losing his parents to a supervillain. Hannah. Moon Thegund. Though he’s already shared some of that, I think? Not sure how to segue into “oh, btw, I’m a wizard avowed. Surprise!”

Jim

Alden's equivalent would be telling the body drainer story, not necessarily the "I'm a Wizard!"

zdm

What a beautiful chapter.

Kahandran

@Fabian no way I could explain it better than JJ did, but I concur. It's not evil, it's insanity. Yes, these people could have helped her. She was convinced she was in a mind trap. Perhaps it can be argued that the actions she took were evil, but her motive was not, which tends towards descriptors like "tragic" rather than "evil." "Evil" implies malicious intent.

Clint

Definitely a real effect. Romance language words sound more academic and dispassionate. I can speak with Germanic words, and it feels like this. Alternately, one is able to utilize Francophone verbiage in order to produce a different impression.

Jim

So, we know that there are 30 Billion Artonan's. We know that 20% of them are Wizards. That's 6 Billion Wizards. Of 6 Billion, if we say that .001% are Knights. That's 6 Millions Knights.

Kahandran

@Matt DiMeo really? What evidence? I could have missed something but after his conversations with Joe and Mother it seemed pretty clear that those were the knight skills

Clint

I really want Alden to ask Stu — if Sina were still alive, knowing all that you know now, would you still want to become a knight yourself, or would you want to become her votary? It’s a horribly unfair question. But Stu is the kind of person who would really think about it. And whatever his answer about the relationship he’d want with Sina — whether as votary or that thing Esh and Lind did — it’s a good transition to Alden asking if he can fill that role for Stu, and reveal his authority sense.

Clint

I think Stu will understand Alden’s reasons, but that won’t stop him from feeling hurt.

Jim

I don't think any of us would be here w/o the Royal Road chapters

Jim

I took that to be an early author-still-feeling-out-the-basics-of-the-story continuity error.

Jazehiah

I appreciate the way levity is injected between moments of incredible seriousness.

zdm

I sort of suspect there is another equally bad fate for Avowed who become too affixed. The Primary warning Alden that he matched his skill too well to avoid the primary forever, and Joe's contract condition about "seeing the endless misery on the horizon" make me think there's something we don't know about yet. Some way an Avowed with high affinity benefits the Knights or can be used to restrain chaos. Given how well Hannah seemed to match her skill, I often wonder if this was her fate.

The Ox

behead is from Old English/Aglo-Saxon, decapitate is from Latin.

The Ox

But Alden is more of a backwards version of a Knight vs a regular Wizard. He would never make a good votary, they are supposed to be magic experts and there's too much magic that Alden can't do. He doesn't have the proper brain structure for it.

Terrestrial_Biped

It's entirely possible Boe accidentally sent his parents into a state of near-permanent bliss, and that's why they're so useless. It would explain why he's so wary of using his skill, even for "nice" things. And there's a slight suggestion that his parents weren't always so useless as they are now. There was that one brief exchange in ch. 88 about Boe seeing a ewtwee when he was eight years old, and getting dragged away before he could say hello. That suggests that his mom was out in public, doing things (atypical for her now) and that she cared about *something* enough to actually pit her will against little Boe's (also atypical for her now).

AnEggMaw

I do appreciate the deep world building and developing of Stu's character but I can't help but feel we've gone pretty far afield from the original theme of the story. Now the aspiring support hero plot feels like a background plot to alien slumber party. I'm not against that but this also doesn't scratch the itch I'd like it to. Very well written though and I'll be back when there's a new arc to binge.

S

It's even more efficient than "Sharon" if you're doing comparisons

Mircea Popescu

This chapter really touched me. It gave me a rollercoaster of emotions and I walk away from it feeling content. I think this was some of your best work. Thanks for sharing your talent with all of us

Mircea Popescu

I honestly don’t know if the original premise of the novel will still be the focus, both the plot and Sleyca grew a lot from the initial chapters. Either way, I think I’ll enjoy it whatever may come

AnEggMaw

No idea, I don't think it's impossible to go back but I don't disagree it feels like were on a totally different trajectory now. He's still going to school for a reason... I guess the case could just be to get stronger to not be afraid anymore then go fight demons maybe? Or maybe not. I think both we the readers and Alden need to revisit what the goals really are anymore.

Aspiring Moth

the primary didn't say Alden matched his skill too well. he said Alden was too << whole >> for them to avoid each other over the long run, referring to his high quality authority (granted by gorgon's blessing). it was the reason the primary had to hold Alden's hands, and the reason Alden was able to do so many more teleports to moon Thegund than Joe expected. Mother confirms this in her chapters too

Terrestrial_Biped

I don't think it's the *knights* who forcefully recruit. I think it's the rest of society who want someone else to pay the price. It's the Grand Senate deciding that chaos is too scary, knight losses have been too high, and it's about time to torture a few kids to get more supersoldiers.

Seriously

The slumber party is just background plot for the obstacle course and team whatever the fk they were called.

Jazehiah

We've gotten so caught up in Stuart's backstory that we haven't been theorizing about all the Knight skills we just got the detes on! Stuart's skill just take a truly vast amount of authority to use as a mode of transportation. The line about how skills are more efficient when used as intended is curious. We know that perception is a large component of a skill's scope. It suggests that naming Bearer Of All Burdens "Let Me Take Your Luggage" is an attempt to limit its scope.

Terrestrial_Biped

It's possible he is thinking about retirement. Remember that for knights, "retirement" happens six feet under. It occurs to me that one reason he hasn't had kids since Stu is that he might be putting his affairs in order at a glacial pace, making sure he doesn't leave any dependents behind.

Terrestrial_Biped

Possibly it was meant as social camouflage? On Anesidora, no one would blink at someone talking to the air. Not so in Chicago.

ChoWingGom

Thank you for the chapter! So Stu's early years are quietly, mildly, just a bit completely terrifying, as seen from the outside. Did Iella raise him while foraging for food, finding/building shelter, for a few years? Stu has a way of suddenly switching the subject, going from his future Skill to Iella's story. He's outwardly stoic, but internally? I feel he was overcome with the need to get this off his chest. I think he wanted to have a friend to talk about this for a long time. I also see Stu's earnest desire to make himself a rapscallious delinquent! Why, enjoying Alden's struggling to remaining polite against the cup of Yuck, saying such things as "shitty", when did that boy go wrong... Alden stops trying to shield Stu from the Human internet. Good friend.

David

I suspect that part of the knightly vows is an oath to stay apolitical to some extent. Otherwise, you might end up with an invincible and possibly unstable tyrant. We know that Esh has served on some councils, so I suspect that’s how the knights are able to apply pressure to the senate. I think you’re right that every so often the senate passes a draft to appease the fears of their constituents, but the origin of this fears, I think, is often the death or retirement of high level knights or a poorly managed chaos outbreak

zdm

Ah. I interpreted that whole-ness as Alden's authority naturally matching the shape of his skill, sort of how Stu is looking to select something that will minimize the pain of affixing.

Curtis

@Guus Adjuster skills don't necessarily need spell impressions to work. Kon's object history skill is obviously intended to work with his spell impression, but Everly's sticking to ice skill can work even without her spells (although obviously benefits from them). Knights won't take the spell impressions, but that doesn't mean an adjuster couldn't have a 300 skill.

Terrestrial_Biped

Prior to affixation, I don't think Mother knows you all that much better than your close friends and family do. Up to that point she's still an outside observer, albeit one with extensive perception and memory. It's only after affixation, when she fully peruses your memories from your own perspective, that she gains absolutely unique insight on who you are as a person. That, and even when your family aren't perfect, they're still your family, whatever that means to you. You care about them and their opinions. Or you have to work around them. Or you rely on them to have perspective you don't. Or they've utterly dominated your life and you don't know how to act on your own.

Terrestrial_Biped

Yeah, you know that bit about "for want of a nail, a kingdom was lost"? Alden's the nail in this scenario. If Stu doesn't have an adequate support network at affixation, he'll die. If the precious son who looks just like Iella dies, Jeneth dies. If Alis is left alone, the last of her triplet set, she dies. If the Primary and Quaternary die of despair, any number of knights who look up to them as beacons of hope also die. If a rash of knights suddenly die, the Grand Senate gets itchy and starts conscripting again, and far too many promising children die as a result, while whole planets fall at the edges of the universe, and all for the want of a nail...

Terrestrial_Biped

It occurs to me that Stu's relationship to his mother might make his relationship to Mother rather strange or uneasy. Probably Mother can handle it. She seems to have navigated Alden's complicated feelings about his childhood pretty well; she put forward a face that reminded him of many important people in his life, but not of his own mother. Still. Stu is going to get a brand new imaginary friend. Who can drag him under into a dreamworld that evokes his memories to hold conversations with him. Who can talk to him when no one else can hear. That's gonna trip so many alarm bells. I wonder how much he's been forewarned about the Contract having an honest-to-goodness personality underneath the procedures it normally follows.

UpgrayeDD

This is a very very important point and I will make a comment later about it. Because it means that Stuart, and his mom, were missing in action for YEARS before her lover found them hiding on another planet. Why was Stu's dad even looking for her? She wasn't a wife. She was a lover who disappeared in a transporter......

Terrestrial_Biped

Meh... Stu is the son of the 1st and 68th most powerful/important people in the universe. Him having authority of exceptional quality is lucky (he got the good genes) but not shocking (the good genes were definitely in the draw pile).

Terrestrial_Biped

It also adds context to his profound determination to keep his shit together in the immediate aftermath of the foot loss.

UpgrayeDD

I actually like the trope of "dirty words" being anglo and polite words being of french or latin Origen. https://markoftheredpen.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/copulate-that-excrement-the-saxon-theory-regarding-the-origins-of-contemporary-profanity/

UpgrayeDD

Well, well, well....... I'm sitting here thinking of the tons and tons of lore dropped today! Most importantly, how can Sleyca deliver the ultimate in metaphor and nobody makes the connection? Stuart is literally delivering to Alden the shit sandwich of his life story, and at the same time, Alden is literally eating the biggest shit making bowl of soup ever delivered! You can't tell me that Sleyca wasn't cognizant of this shitty metaphor squirting out at the end!

Procrastination

Because she was a VIP knight. Double-digit importance, even. Of course he would look for her when he was the last one to see her before she disappeared. Also, they were close. And obviously, marriage doesn’t mean much in their society if cheating is such a minor issue.

Noc

Honestly, I do still think Alden will achieve his dream- he's very determined, and he did a pretty good job in super gym. But I think it'll move on from that to something more. I noticed that Stu said knights work in squads, not solo. I think a 'support' knight is a real thing.

UpgrayeDD

Duh, Dun, Duaaaaaaa....... "“Because then we’ll know,” Stu’s mother said, her fingers still combing. “If he ever says a word that isn’t Rityan, we’ll know it’s slipped through and affected him.” “Oh, Iella…” “What’s slipped through?” Stu asked curiously. A picture came to him—one of the clear and true ones—of the little blue wigglers he liked to watch, slipping in and out of holes they’d made in thick patches of spongeplant. And he knew that was what they were talking about. " Stuart is "infected" with something. He is seeing chaos demons bugs, even while he is "protected" by his mother. Something slipped through, it's just no one has caught it yet!

Clint

Yeah… I think Alden hasn’t actually been trying to become a support hero since at least Moon Thegund. Remember how awkward he was about admissions interviews where he was still claiming to want to be a support hero? But he and we both knew that his heart wasn’t in it. That’s realistic, though, isn’t it? How closely has your actual career path tracked what you wrote in your college application essays? Also, I’d argue that “aspiring support hero” was never the theme of the story, it was just the protagonist’s starting goal, which frequently only exists to propel the story to the real inciting incident. If I had to call out a theme, I’d say it’s something about dealing with trauma by helping others.

UpgrayeDD

"His mother was there, standing side by side with the most amazing surprise of the child’s whole life. “Stu,” she said, “this man is Jeneth-art’h. He is your father.” So his mother escaped to another planet, and gave birth alone, by herself, to Stuart, and then raised him for, what, 3-5 Artonan years on a deserted plan alone??????? So no birth tree for Stuart, am I right? Yeah, that's some serious backstory shit.

Clint

Oh. Agree 100%. Alden literally cannot be a votary. I had in mind that Stu might still prefer to be a votary, if only there were still a knight he loved and trusted and wanted to partner with. (I base this mostly on how lovingly he described what a wizard is, in contrasting it to a knight.) But if Stu really has rethought things and now he would want to be a partner-knight to Sina if she were alive, then that’s what he and Alden should become.

UpgrayeDD

"Alden had promised himself, while he watched Stuart set up the spell, that he wouldn’t have selfish-dickhead thoughts about how different their skill selection experiences were. And so far it was mostly working." Yeah, Fuck the Artonans their "your are going to be a Meister, and you are going to like it!" for the subject races...... It's obvious that the Artonans only care about their race, and not others, otherwise there are many different ways to assigning classes that aren't as dictatorial.... mmmm

UpgrayeDD

Come on people! There are hundreds, if not thousands, of lore drops here!!!!!!!! "“What’s Maker of Narrow Ways supposed to do?” Alden asked. “What was it designed for?” Stuart opened his mouth then shut it. He thought for a few seconds before saying, “Its intended use is cross-dimensional exploration." Sleyca didn't say galactic exploration...... She specifically said dimensional exploration. That means that Artonans, Gorgons, Humans, etc. are in the same galactic dimension, and that Stuart's skill is set up to explore other dimensions as it's primary goal! What are we to find in these other dimensions! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdbLirsZ_4Q

Clint

We pretty much have two words (dual verbiage) for everything in English. Can thank William the Conqueror.

Rob

Around 20 chapters or so ago a few fans and Sleyca pointed out to me that demensional travel has been part of the lore for a while. In the chapter where Alden is teleporting home from Thegund the system while it's deciding if it should complete is teleport mentions that Thegund is in another dimension than Artona 1. This is more of a historical reference to the long history of dimensional travel for Artonins

Jeremy Goldberg

well, I guess that’s my internet rabbit hole for the next few days https://youtu.be/HbVOTJHA21k?si=o-YzltQpiSQpuKzl

UpgrayeDD

"The only unknown things were surprises. He looked down through the water at the patient creatures. They rested on the bottom, black and not quite round. Covered in sharp points. Stu didn’t touch those. I want to touch them, though. Why is it I don’t touch them? Had he shown them to Father already? He’d meant to, but he couldn’t remember doing it."

UpgrayeDD

"“He didn’t even try to explain that Mother was really gone and that when I saw her it wasn’t her. Just the last gift she’d given me—the protection of the flawless world I’d always known.” Each and EVERY one of you... As well as the rest of the world, if I had my way..... This. This is evil. This is the evil that our .gov is trying to impose upon us. Not only is the world flawed. The attempt to protect anyone from those flaws only makes the world more evil. Instead of creating barriers to hurt, we need to teach our children how to grow, how to learn, how to heal from hurt. Because it is impossible to protect from, to guarantee safety from, hurts, whether physical, mental, or financial.

John D Jones

Dude "reusing waste water" is something that actual humans in our real world do. There's a reason that "sewage treatment plants" are a thing. Some of the water that comes out of your faucet was previously used to flush somebody else's turds down a toilet.

John D Jones

Sure, but on the other hand, wouldn't it kind of mean-mean to Stu to toss him head first into shit eating and midget porn?

John D Jones

I think one possible interesting consequence of all this is that the art'hs are very protective of Stu-art'h. If Alden is a truly good friend to Stu who helps Stu get stronger, more balanced and better able to cope with the universe, figure the art'hs are likely to also become very protective of Alden, too.

Tycho Green

Earth is in another dimension than the Artonas as well. Might have been included in the first synopsis on RR, but the lore has been introduced through storytelling early on. Wizards from another dimension landing in the desert and so on.

Jeremy Goldberg

Do we know if every knight gets the “mother” privilege? or do most of them just interact with the more impersonal, non-kernel system?

dibjuv

Holy fucking shit that backstory in insane. And is it just me or does Stu's mom kind of give Mal vibes from Inception?

Terrestrial_Biped

We don't *know*. But Mother has spoken of "my Alis" and "my Esh", and both Alis and Esh have spoken her name. She said that her "children" prefer her to be more personal and flexible than Contract Earth is. I can't imagine what Mother is *for* if not for the knights. To keep them alive. To help them cope. And every knight is a precious, *wildly* expensive resource, well worth keeping alive at whatever cost. And Alden is so much smaller and weaker than any of the existing knights are likely to be, and yet the moment he committed to actually keeping his authority sense, Mother's behavior changed. She became more personable, more *real*. As if she was kind of phoning it in when it was just a favor to Alis, and he'd just at that moment crossed the threshold for having more resources dedicated to his mental state. I rather imagine even the humblest, newest knights get Mother as their interface when they need her. But... Stu isn't a knight yet. He might not have met her at all, even if I'm right about all this.

dibjuv

The main theme is dealing with trauma by helping others. Or in other words... "Let me Take your Luggage"

FuriousDee

It doesn't matter for any race that can't feel their authority or isn't using one of the skills which are meant to last a lifetime. Besides Artonian priority is probably to prevent more demons from being created and forcing problem people to affix is morally preferable to genocide.

dibjuv

He killed his mind healer on retainer though...

FuriousDee

Given how exasperated he is with people telling him he shouldn't do this and how much thought he has already put in, that seems quite rude.

FuriousDee

That seems like a reach, also he has been shown to both multitask and cast really complicated spells both of which the Artonians use two minds for.

JJ Hunter

Yes, it definitely made me go back to Mother, pt. 2 with new understanding! It's really interesting that Mother was already using similar language with Alden there, e.g. "You feel everything you preserve in some way [...] With roots in sacrifice and symbolism, how else would the skill expect you to hold the burden of another person’s pain?” and "Part of the skill’s potency comes from the fact that you must sacrifice some strength of your own in order to preserve your burden". If Alden were to talk about his skill the way Stu is talking about Maker of Narrow Ways, what concepts might he highlight as the core that most speaks to him? "Bearer of All Burdens. Its roots drink from concepts like protection, sacrifice, and trust. "Built on fealty, not abasement. Even though it’s capable of great service. That's what I want."

JJ Hunter

We also learned last chapter that Rel is the family member who taught Stu so much about the supply library! ("Rel spent a whole winter down here with me one year, teaching me the names of all the things, how to care for them, and what they were for.”)

JJ Hunter

@S, I just cackled so hard I almost fell off my couch at that one. Well served, well served.

JJ Hunter

I can't wait for Alden to look at the internet with Stu and get surprised by new Alden memes being used as reaction gifs and the like in unexpected places.

JJ Hunter

I keep coming back to comparing what Iella did, and how Stu felt from inside her protection / mind trap, and what Hannah once did, and how Alden felt from inside her bubble. This story and its parallels-!

Luck

No, I think that is his mother’s mind trap. He is briefly confused, so his mother’s trap gives him a plausible explanation. The rocks are similar, he knows not to touch them, but the *why* would be upsetting, so he doesn’t know why.

Obbu

@JJ Hunter Ooooh! yes! I hadn't even thought of that :D

JJ Hunter

@Jeremy Goldberg, may I also recommend https://historyofenglishpodcast.com/2018/11/29/bonus-episode-regarding-english-sound-education-conference-talk/ ? It's a fantastic speedrun overview of history of English - excellent in audio, and there's also a full transcript available if you prefer reading it instead.

JJ Hunter

It's totally fair to prefer reading complete arcs to following chapter by chapter - definitely go for the reading experience that works best for you and your enjoyment of the story! I do feel like the original theme is still here, just getting new facets planted in the soil already established. Being a support hero requires other heroes to work with, no? We've been getting some very intriguing cues that Stuart might be one of Alden's preferred partners for that work when he's doing hero work (knight work?) off Earth. This sleepover arc is doing a lot of character work and establishing stakes for what operating on that scale might look like. (How does one join one of those << squads >> of << newlings >>, one wonders. Do they ever have Avowed working with them?) Glad you're up for the adventure of where this goes - mee too! Definitely agree that Sleyca does a good job of both surprising us and making it all hang together - reading in larger arcs really makes that aspect of the << wholeness >> of the story jump out more clearly.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

People like you are needlessly dramatic and annoying, but I’m curious How exactly is the gov evil in this way, and how do you square it with how you have an internet connection and are presumably living somewhere that has a working water supply, roads, and isn’t a warzone? It’s true that the government is doing some things without our consent that I don’t like. I’m not talking about that, I’m curious about how protecting people from the world’s flaws is evil. And if you were only talking about the extent to which Iella did it, then how does that relate to our gov?

JJ Hunter

Oh yes. Wondering if someone has already delegated running a background check on Alden, realized he's doing regular lethal training in a gym where the safety features require periodic wizard maintenance, and assigned one of the current hopeful wizards in the vicinity doing volunteer work to go renew the safety spells (and maybe add a few extras) there as soon as possible. Just to be extra safe. I was half wondering if Drusi-otta was assigned to shadow Alden for the day in part to do a safety assessment for where some quiet improvements might ensure better everyday protection for Alden and his classmates too. Remember, Esh-erdi and Lind-otta have spent quite a bit of time with Jeneth-art'h in recent years, and there's been at least a little interaction with Stu-art'h in the process. Esh-erdi in particular is coming across as a benignly meddling uncle type; I suspect Lind-otta is just as kindly inclined, but tending to more subtlety like her cousin.

UpgrayeDD

Dog whistle much? Did you let your Klan membership peek out accidentally? Shame on you. “People like you “……. So are you saying you are a chosen one?”

Clint

Can you explain what you mean? I’m not suggesting anything less than 100% support for Stu’s right to make his own decision. But he brought Alden here to discuss their future together and Alden’s keeping an important and relevant secret. Hasn’t Stu been hurt enough by all the secrets and ‘loving lies’?

Super Super Supportive Supporter

I see, you really are as dumb as I thought, thanks for confirming You should know, your many comments make me roll my eyes It’s not that you’re more insightful and can see meaning other people can’t. It’s that people aren’t discussing those items because they’re obvious, or they’re old news, or you’re simply wrong Very similar to your other views incidentally

Alex Scriber

It’s really generous of Alden to stay mostly focused on Stu’s skill selection and not how much worse his own experiences with skill selection were. I am really glad we got the reminder of Alden having to work to be that generous. The knights as individuals have all been so gracious that it is easy to forget that they’re only one small part of Artonan culture. A part that the Artonans themselves identify as the best of them.

Fennec

I keep thinking about the conceptual uses Stu's skill might have for a future leader, or teacher, or counselor, or ambassador. Someone who could align two peoples that had been at odds by cutting through a history of violence. Or bringing someone to a place of knowledge and understanding by cutting through ignorance. Or being naturally able to cut through red tape in a political forum. Or helping someone reach self-acceptance by cutting through fear and illusion.

David

I think Stuart is about to bind himself to what is essentially the ultimate gun. The purpose of a gun is to shoot a projectile that displaces matter, and that’s exactly what his tunnels will do, except: 1) he doesn’t actually need a projectile, but he could use any payload he wants, including the explosive kind 2) he can specify any trajectory so long as he has the authority to trace it 3) he can choose any starting and ending point he’s aware of, not just what he can aim at (eg he should be able to shoot something he is scrying) 4) he doesn’t have to reload until his authority is exhausted He can yeet bullets, beans, nothing at all, guns, knights with the skill “Maker of Narrow Ways,” random things Alden keeps preserved in his pocket. It doesn’t matter. It’s all utility that he gets for free alongside the ability to carve a hole through anything, including the barrier between dimensions.

Anon-Anon

Super, you're probably wasting your time on them. I don't think they even know what a government is. It's stupid they even bring up crap like this up in the first place. (also what a whack job. They called u a klan member because they couldn't refute your point smh) A lot of these types of people also start bringing conspiracies about chemtrails and how steam from nuclear power plants is cloud seeding because they don't understand the real method—adding salt to the air to promote early/extra rainfall over more beneficial areas rather than the ocean—and the gov must be hiding everything from us. lol. At least, that's how these conversations always go, so i'd say no one should engage further with them. Wouldn't be surprised if sleyca deletes their comment either.

Ryan

Was this the same poster who was sexist against Selyca earlier?

Super Super Supportive Supporter

@Ryan yeah lol @Anon I know, so I didn’t bother replying to his other comments about how he’s wrong, was just genuinely curious about this one, but seems there’s nothing there anyway

Francis

It would make sense that Mother would not be able to read your thoughts before affixiation, good point Biped. But I wonder how she had young Stu's memory of Sina dying...

Francis

Guys, please be respectful towards each other. It is a good thing that we have diverse people reading this story, there is no need to get triggered by others' opinions.

Francis

Yes, I agree. They did give the Avowed some choice with the class trading, but the knowledge differential is just too huge. They are essentially treating Avowed like children (as Joe has mentioned before), and they are actually playing a dangerous game. We know some Avowed planets hate the Artonans, perhaps it happens when they found out too much. So just like humans, the Artonans thought that restricting the information even more is the answer.

Francis

I think she made Alden eat something gross on purpose, agree with you. Maybe the "shit" ending evolved as she was writing? But I definitely thought it was beautiful writing when Stu tells Alden horrible things and instead of writing Alden saying platitudes, she writes how he struggles to eat and swallow the greasy "pudding". Incredible writing, involving other senses to express mental difficulty.

Francis

Mother is already looking out for Stu and essentially did him a favour by sending Alden to him

Terrestrial_Biped

Yes and no. It's possible that Mother has gone out of her way for Jeneth's sake rather than Stu's, and the fact that Alden and Stu both benefit is serendipitous but not the point of the exercise. Can't have the Primary keeling over with despair because his precious youngest child died, after all. That said... Mother's interference on Alden's behalf has been considerable, with the books and the advice and the FALSIFIED PROFILE, and he's just a babby pseudoknight. So it wouldn't shock me if she's looking out for Stu too, especially since he's already sworn vows. Still, even if she's watching over him, that doesn't mean she's revealed herself.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

Sleyca - how do you come up with the idea for Alden to be eating a jar of oil while Stu drops his backstory? It is impressive in that it’s such a small detail that ultimately has no impact on what is being said. But the constant references to Alden struggling to eat it somehow help fill the empty spaces in between flashbacks in a vivid yet non-distracting way, and then at the end it provides a non-contrived way to instantly lighten the mood and showcase an aspect of Stu’s developing personality I would never have thought of that, it’s such a small and non-obvious idea, but without it I can see how the chapter becomes clumsier and slightly more contrived How’d you do it? Or is it just something you put in on a whim, and the real secret is the deep worldbuilding that makes the characters feel alive in any situation? I hope it’s more than a whim lol

Heather White

Oh, wow. That was a magical experience. This was exactly the chapter I was hoping for. I was positively brimming with curiosity about Stuart’s time with his mom before meeting his dad. I’d been mind-shaped into perfect readiness to hear why and how Stuart came home delicate, and the tale did not disappoint. It was a most beautiful day. Also, Alden’s reactions to Stuart telling the story absolutely cracked me up. I hope he manages to rescue his poor eyebrows from the stratosphere. So, Stuart went from an existence with no pain or discomfort to one full of an overwhelming amount. And he survived. Hopefully that was his past preparing him for his future. He’s not delicate. He’s experienced.

Bbyh

@FuriousDee it 100% would be rude, but a significant life decision that also risks death is the type of situation where being rude is appropriate if the rudeness also brings clarity. That being said I don’t see Alden changing Stu’s mind and I don’t want Alden to speak of his wizardlyness for other reasons.

FuriousDee

@Clint Stuart’s first reaction when Alden started to speak was bring up a load of justifications about his choice, and was then relieved when Alden said he wasn’t asking about that. This shows he had already had questions like that from enough people he just assumes everyone will be like that. Secondly despite technically being a knight Alden has no idea what the selection is like and given how different their life experiences have been he seems totally unqualified to judge if there is an area where Stuart hasn’t thought about it. Thirdly Alden doesn’t want to swear the oaths and move there permanently so he can’t offer for Stuart to be his votary in the future as that would require Stuart just waiting on a decision he has been pushing for without giving explanation. Fourthly I am certain Stuart’s suitability as a votary has been brought up in the conversations where people say he shouldn’t waste his casting ability, if he wanted to be a votary then he would still be on that path even if nobody wanted to partner with him. Fifthly given how much longer than normal Stuart has spent thinking about this I bet he has already thought about that and many other questions when deciding what he wanted to do. @Bbyh yeah but in this situation I don’t think it would bring clarity he doesn’t already have and it would be both assuming Stuart can’t decide on his own, that Alden is qualified to question his choice and move Alden out of the purely supportive group that it sounds like Stuart needs more of

FuriousDee

They are mostly not giving knowledge that the avowed literally can’t understand though, how do you explain a painting to someone blind particularly if that blind person is going to bind themselves with the painting and gain magic powers from it

happypotamus

Surely the most accomplished Healer of Mind in the multiverse would have the expertise to ablate only the visual processing unit from Stuart's secondary core, wouldn't they?

Ilia Ciolac

I am pretty sure his mother went insane and this is also part of her insanity. She thinks that the demon is still there in her mind, even though it is dead already. But I do think that this demon could affect Stu mind while she was pregnant, but I think it’s going to be too similar to World of Warcraft lore thus way. So I am not sure if I like it

Clint

@FuriousDee Stu is really upset to discover that his loved ones all think he isn’t strong enough to be a knight and that they have all been lying to him about that for many years. Alden is currently lying to him. It’s Alden’s secret to tell, but it’s very relevant to what their future friendship — the one that’s the whole point of this visit — will look like. Letting Stu go on with a false view of the future is exactly what his family did to him for the past several years. Stu is earnestly opening his heart to Alden and proposing a lifelong friendship commitment. He’s sharing his traumatic past and his vision of the future. Of course his vision doesn’t include Alden’s authority sense. How could it? If Alden does keep quiet, whether out of fear of revealing his secret or fear of hurting Stu’s feelings… Will Stu be grateful for that, or will it feel like yet another betrayal?

Aspiring Moth

perception magic will now join the gloss as the thing to blame for everything

CaylaCat

- 'Stuart grew from small in a mind trap that would disrupt any and all distress by causing it to fade away' - 'Stu'arth has an unusually high sensitivity and skill w/ authority' - 'for wizards using your authority is inherently pleasurable' ... so for however long while he was growing up his only perception of the world which wasn't consistently modified or interrupted was his authority sense && then after his mother was cleaved from the world, he had a hypersensitivity to most physical sensations but his authority sense was likely the only one that wasn't crushingly painful to him && now years later the only tether to the world which has consistently been joyess will become tarnished by occasional agony-filled authority surgeries ... Stuart, why? like, we know you can, but can't any of our protagonists have happy lives?

David Burchfield

One thing I haven't seen discussed much is the flip side of Stuart's situation. He has kind of already gone through what Knights do when he was forced to leave his perfect world and deal with reality. It is probably a rare and personal enough situation that they don't have a lot of information about how knights from a similar background fare. There is however a possibility that learning to deal with this once already makes him better prepared than average for Knighthood rather than worse. Here is to hoping to for the best for Stu, may you thrive in every way.

Matt DiMeo

I don’t think they are demon bugs or anything. He doesn’t remember touching them, either because his mom prevented him from doing so, or because she made him forget or never feel the pain from touching them.

ImNotHere

or french Which makes it really weird for a first name in Inception as she was French

John D Jones

@ David Burchfield True, but often that which does not kill you does NOT make you stronger. It leaves you permanently wounded or weakened. Stu has managed to surmount what his mother did to him. His brain is functional enough to ignore environmental stimuli to a limited degree the way our human brains can get used to most ongoing conditions. But Authority-twisting from Affixation isn't going to be like that. Mother flatly told Alden that he would never get used to it, never really be able to fully ignore or accept it. I think Affixation and its aftermath is going to be hard for Stu, so it's good that he'll have a really good friend like Alden to help him get through it.

maledei

I usually reread a Soup chapter at least once immediately after it is released. This one made me quite emotional, so I reread all of Soup once again to let it sit and age a bit like fine wine... Just now got to it again and yeah, it's even better.

Jazehiah

The skill will let him move himself. As long as he has something to move towards, he'll outpace almost any speedster.

Winter Holiday

Now I feel this is foreshadowing Joe becoming a super demon that Alden has to support a fight against.

John D Jones

That's not the real problem. Stu's mother had put this effect into Stu on a really deep level. It's sort of like an "inoperable brain tumor" in our world. Could our surgeons physically cut into that person's brain to get the tumor out? Sure. But the damage they'd do to the rest of the brain would kill the person before the tumor would.

Pete

Clint hurting his feelings is about asking him to be his votary, nobody said it would hurt his feelings if Alden reveals he is kind of a knight. Why are you conflating the two?

Temp One

I appreciate Alden's worry about the lack of consideration he technically put towards the selection of his own skill. But I think he's discounting the effort Gorgon likely put forward on his own behalf. Sure, it's not years of effort like Stu. But Alden's skill *was* chosen by the last, wish-granting, member of the only other alien species with an affinity for magic aside from Artonans. One that probably knows on some nth dimensional level that Alden's very being resonates with the Bearer of All Burdens. Honestly, I think there are decent odds that he's *better* matched for his skill compared to Stu and his. Hell, as I think about it, this might be a good part of the reason why the Artonans want Gorgon onside so bad.

FuriousDee

Stuart feeling betrayed by Alden not telling him this secret, which he described as incredibly personal himself after telling Alden he couldn't guarantee that he would act as Alden might want him to, seems like it really shouldn't be anywhere near Alden's top concern. Stuart is a good enough person that even if he views it as a betrayal he will probably forgive Alden after he explains and/or apologises. The potential destruction of Alden's life and future plans seem way more important.

Enkelados

Stuart opened his mouth then shut it. He thought for a few seconds before saying, “Its intended use is cross-dimensional exploration.” I always forget the Artonans are an evil space empire, until something like that comes up again.

Tauwetter

I understand the tendency to think or Artonans as evil colonizers but then I remember how humans colonized people of their own species… I’m not saying the situation is perfect, but it could be SO much worse.

JJ Hunter

I hope that's not the eventual fate of our Joe! I do wonder if risk of going perverse was part of the excuse the Senate gave for removing Joe from his Thegund lab - is assigning him parole as a university professor supposed to buffer him with more positive influences? How does the Senste monitor powerful wizards that might become world-ending threats and intervene before lethal options are the only effective options?

SkySeeker

Given the natural breadth and depth of the skill, originally prized for its versatility, I imagine they felt like they were really reaching when they tried to cram it down to the name "Let Me Take Your Luggage."

SkySeeker

Yeah, maledei, I have found myself looking at your username and thinking "bad god" sometimes.

Temp One

Yeah, I kind of think of the Artonans as basically Space Britain. Bigoted conquers with factions that advocate slavery? Absolutely. But, for the most part, they aren't Space Belgium led by Space King Leopold II. They offer trade, infrastructure, and other services, to the people they "conquer". Give them self autonomy for the most part, even, and ostensibly protect the universe at large from Chaos. By no means do I think they're good. I don't think Sleyca has yet plumbed the depths of the existential horror that is contorting the very nature of your soul and being into an Artonan child's college art project. But that doesn't mean the Artonans are unilaterally evil, either. They also aren't 100% asymmetrical in their dealings, and certainly not as much as they could be. Which probably makes them better then a Space Britain in a lot of ways.

Barrett Fogarty

“Father used that skill to kill Mother and separate her from my mind,” Stuart said. “As well as he could.” Later Stuart says about his new skill, “I wanted to be able to cut through things,” [Stuart] said after a moment. “But I didn’t want the skill to be built on a foundation of separation." Interestingly with the BOAB skill, Alden has : [Divide From Whole] [Aids the bearer in the division of a burden from its source.] I'm thinking that Alden is/will be better at non-physical separation than Stuart or the Primary but i'm not sure why. Maybe because of the Mother's comment: “It’s extremely complex if you want to know how it works, but if you just want to know what it does…it’s the facet of the skill that will allow you to hold certain types of burden away from the bits of reality they are a part of. It goes with this one—” [Sensitivity] [Gives Alden the ability to sense the thing he’s trying to divide from the whole.]

Paul Sneddon

Could be as simple as pulled from any of the knights there. it wasn't like Alden was watching from Stu's location.

Kim Enteiu

Gorgon outright schemed on how he would steer Alden towards picking the class and talent that would help him best as battlefield support. I imagine he had a specific skill picked out for every rank ready to reference as needed.

Terrestrial_Biped

Yeah. I keep thinking about how if I were in Alden's position, and Stu asked me even a single question about what my selection experience was like, bitterness would just come pouring out. "What did I know about my skill? "The Rabbit carries an item that has been entrusted to them." That's IT, that's everything I knew. That, and that MAYBE I had been given a hint to take it. I had to trust that they knew what they were talking about. I had to trust that they had my best interests at heart. I had to trust that I had interpreted the hint correctly, and that I had actually been given a hint at all, and that I wasn't just making it up because I was DESPERATE for some kind help. I got LUCKY. I acted on practically no knowledge at all and I got lucky. And I got a good skill! I think I got a really good skill. But I was a hair's breadth away from getting nothing at all, and the only reason I didn't was luck."

John D Jones

@ Enkelados The thing is that they're not an "evil space empire." The Artonans, as a people, believe (somewhat truthfully) that they're the only force that stands between all of reality and annihilation/corruption by Chaos/Demons. The Artonans didn't come to Earth to cheat us out of our gold/water/women. They came to invite us to do some of our part in preventing all of reality from flushing itself down the cosmic toilet. That said, Artonans are still people. They're just as subject to prejudice, willful stupidity, greed, laziness and outright evil as we are. Not for nothing but they didn't put any kind of ethics/morality test in terms of who gets to be Avowed because Body Drainer was a thing. Maybe later in the story we'll find that the Chaos isn't what we think it is and that somehow, the Artonans are the "Bad guys" and the Demons are somehow the "Good guys" but right now, from what we know, the opposite is true. The Artonans aren't Great Britain, the Earth Contract isn't the East India Trading Company.

Francis

@Temp One, good analogy. Add an extremely privileged upper class who either see the plebians as children, slaves or a threat...and most of those probably pat themselves on the back for bringing "civilization" to the barbarians

Super Super Supportive Supporter

> Denying everything else the right to occupy that space I guess this is in direct contrast with Formation stat? And maybe shapers holding their element can offer some resistance? It’s not an obvious conclusion that all authority can resist this, I feel like this would go through a pure speed brute almost as easily as a normal person Then again he’s a knight so it’s not like he’ll use it to kill Avowed much Wonder what determines the resistance of a demon to authority I bet Joe would know

Francis

You at least try to, that is how. Otherwise you will set yourself up for resentment further down the line. It is like saying that stupid people may not vote. Often they don't understand the political system and get swayed by the simplest of propoganda, but no one should be able to make the decision who is worthy or not. Alden is SupSup's exception, he deserved more information. Clearly the assumption of "a human cannot understand anyway" wasn't true

Francis

I don't think she revealed herself either. My thoughts went towards the effort she did for Alden and how that shows that she might be looking out for pseudoknights as well

Francis

Maybe the anti-Avowed faction tried to make the 300 sound as stupid as possible

Francis

Sleyca sure is crafty making people think about colonisation, but making it aliens with a sense humans "can't" have. I find it extremely interesting how some commentators feel the Artonans are justified in their approach because humans are biologically disadvantaged, and then another camp who feels it is like a horror story. Some serious themes in this story!

Kim Enteiu

“It is not the wound that makes us stronger, it is the healing . If you do not heal, you can never become stronger. And to heal you need rest, compassion, and above all, time . The world is not so simple as I once thought. There is no way to avoid all pain, and so there must be healing to prevent those wounds from festering, from scarring. When we heal, we become stronger than we were before, but when we are denied that ability to heal, we are lessened for the wounds we suffer. Everybody should be allowed to heal.” ~Shrubley, the Monster Adventurer.

Colby Rob

I dislike the term colonization used here to be frank. The connotations of such a term are quite loaded in a way that I am not sure if is appropriate in this context. Though this might sound strange, there is nothing inherently wrong with colonization as a concept. Administering to a less enabled entity isn’t wrong in and of itself (e.g. parents and their childred), only the inevitable bad outcomes that come as a result of the loss of autonomy. In this case, it seems as though the Artonians have maintained the autonomy of Earth and its denizens. Only a small number of people are offered quasi occupation on an entirely voluntary basis. It’s been a while since I read the beginning chapters so I don’t fully remember, but I’m not even sure if Earth was forced to be a part of the Artonian empire to begin with.

Colby Rob

I liked the concept as well, but wish it was a bit more explicit. I was a tad confused for a time when I realized he wasn’t trying to swallow some proverbial lump in his throat, but an *actual* bite of lard haha

Steffen

Wait a moment, Stuart said his father's First skill is called Cleaver of Strenght. So the Primary has decided to divide his enormous authority between multiple skills. Is this because he actually reached the full potential of one of the skills that require "a lifetime of commitment", or did he reach a point where he wanted more flexibility badly enough to choose another skill? Very interesting information hidden in that sentence, which I didn't spot on my first read-through.

Tauwetter

The big difference beeing that earth is, as far as we know, objectively better off than without the contract. There is a lot less war, hunger, malaria or global warming.

Curtis

We actually already knew this was a thing since the Mother chapters. Mother told Alden "most Knights can afford a few supplementary talents for their own convenience". Sleyca also mentioned in a comment ages ago that her intention is that you can only have one infinitely expandable skill. But she hadn't decided how that would work, and its not technically canon.

Clint

@Pete, I specifically didn’t suggest that he ask Stu to be his votary, though.

Clint

@FuriousDee, you’re right. I got a bit sidetracked there. What worries me is that we see Stu bouncing between excited, exuberant, happy Stu talking about how awesome magic is and earnest, dutiful, must-not-leave-the-battlefield-even-though-I’m-bleeding-to-death Stu talking about how he’s sure he’s strong enough to endure knighthood. I think what I’m really hoping for is a formal-polite version of the weird talk Alden had with Boe. Alden has good reason to be worried about the choices his friend is making, and whether those are choices he’d want for a friend of his. What I’d actually love to see out of such a conversation is that Stu actually is excited to be a knight. I’d like to see him exuberant and excited about their grand purpose — especially because of how much Alden needs to hear that. But a part of me is afraid that Stu doesn’t have that excitement, and while he definitely is strong enough to endure, he might be committing himself to a life of suffering just to prove that he’s strong enough to do it. And Stu and Alden already have so much pain in their lives, I hate to see them add that.

The Ox

I don't know how we can interpret the same story so differently. From the earliest chapters we've seen all the ways the Tri-Planets acts in bad faith via the contract. Almost every tidbit of useful, practical information about how magic, Skills, Chaos, and Artonan Society work is deliberately withheld from Earth Govt's and Avowed. Gorgon stated as much explicitly in his inner monologues before Alden was selected.

Steffen

I didn't remember the supplementary skills, dang, I was so excited because it seemed like this contradicted what we generally understand about Knights, and I though that the Primary might be "breaking the mold". Oh well

David J.

The fact Earth is called a resource world tells you how the Artonans feel about Earth. I think Gorgon’s home planet refused to agree to the contract and was destroyed. Gorgon says he is the last of his race.

Tadas

If our kind and awesome Hannah became chaos monster... Just no. It would be too violating and unfair. It makes me upset even thinking about it.

SnuggleCat

Just reread, and damn is this chapter metal. Was too busy taking in the vibes before but Stu's childhood was freaking hardcore

no

make a metal album and call it BORN IN AN AGONYSCAPE

Michael

Add to this the fact that Boe had to exert quite a bit of effort to convince Alden to stop bearing burdens he didn't need to bear, and it seems very likely it is at least close to the perfect skill for him.

Michael

@Tauwetter You could probably make the same case for Britain, or the Roman Empire or even Napoleon's galavant across Europe. The technological difference will obviously improve lives in a lot of ways if they bother to invest the time and rescources. That said there are disadvantages to being a part of an empire. The main one being a lack of control over a large portion of the way your country/planet operates. I think it's very grey, with whether or not the advantages outweigh the disadvantages differing depending on who you are as a person. Personally, more control over the way skills are picked would turn me into a very loyal subject.

Enkelados

Oh totally. Britain is by today's standard totally an evil empire. Completely forget Rome. I don't know enough about Napoleon to judge but I would guess the same.

hercule pyro

They turn off his translation when he's in the artonan university classes! It's as subtle as a brick!

hercule pyro

The staff of north of north will be disappointed that Alden destroyed his meal plan/calorie goals by eating a tub of lard. Not gonna be good for his macros. Although to be fair he kinda gave up once he lost his magical chef.

ImNotHere

I think the goal was to be at his best possible to pass the entrance exam and then he stayed because it was helping him. On the other hand i know keto people who would see nothing wrong with this, butter in coffee is a real thing

ImNotHere

Really liked the flashbacks, shows really well that Stu did not even understood the concept of negative experience. And the manipulation is perfectly blended in his life without a hitch

Colton

Word chains have to be paid back. Presumably all of the magic shown thus far is karmic in that it has to be repaid. It's specifically mentioned that uncapped skills are "hell on the budget". Stu pauses in explaining his skill to Alden. (Mother might have stepped in to limit what he says) Earth is referred to as a resource world. The primary mention's the entire universe is fraying. All these things mean to me that maybe the Artonian's visiting Earth maybe wasn't super good. Great story so far

Kim Enteiu

It seems like every knight takes their personal skill as a direct reflection of who they are epitomized into a magical function they wish to enact on reality around them; they they try to live up to the ideals that they feel the skill embodies. That’s so different from what we’ve seen in hero classes and from Earth’s avowed except for a very few examples. It feels like aligning your being and intent with the focus and ideals of your skill reduces the natural spillage and authority waste from using the skill. We know affixation can affect personality in ways when certain attributes get tweaked; if someone works to be more synchronized with their skill does it make it easier to affix? Does it speed the growth of the authority in the skill along by deepening the wielder’s understanding of it?

Partha Peddi

Knights are assisted by mother in moving free authority to affixed authority. Avoved are screwed by the local contract in evenly distributing authority into skill affixations. So, the only way for Avoved is Alden's methodology.

Michaellogan

While I see the merit behind all of the comments above, I think all of you are forgetting something. Yes Earth is a resource world but Anvowed have, not only some choice in their class, but then with their skills as well. Yes the Triplanets don’t share the optimal way to progress but keep in mind that most of the Anvowed are happy with their skill progression. I’m not saying the Triplanets are not exploiting Earth on some capacity, however keep in mind that there is no cold war, malaria, recovery processes in the aftermath of natural disasters is assisted with literal magic and generally healthcare has seen massive improvement worldwide. It’s nowhere near the colonization of Africa or both of the Americas so calling it colonization is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Jazehiah

I would be willing to bet that if the working Stu's mother enacted is still functional, Alden could attempt to bear it, or Gorgon would be able to destroy it. Personally, I expect Alden to be far too weak to do something like that for a very long time.

Jazehiah

With what Stu said about how to grow authority, it makes sense that Joe is so powerful. Someone who is never satisfied with what they have and who overreaches for a greater prize is going to have grown their authority a ton. I wonder if Joe giving up on working with Alden is a major turning point for him as a character.

S

I don't think it's a major turning point. First, he's avoiding Alden to protect them both - he knew Alden had secrets when they got their tattoos. Second, he outright said it's not his first choice to do it this way - he doesn't want to "give up" working with Alden - he just feels obligated towards both of their safeties and reputations. If he were to eventually value friendship more than reputation, that would be a major character arc, IMO.

VP

I wonder how Stu's relationship with Rel is. We know he also has a mental power and that he has used it on Stu, and that he was being mentored by his mom. It must he weird living down the corridor of the guy who embodies everything that can go wrong with your skill.

Anthony Lutz

Sleyca has the option here to pull a cheeky repeat of CH61 today by giving us a CH163.5. after spending the whole chapter eating a jar of oil, its basically the same result as affixation right? *reminder from end CH60* “What…what will it be like?” “I will be taking a very dear and essential part of you and twisting it into a new shape. I will be severing its limitless futures for the sake of a single purpose. You will fight back, and you will lose. You will beg me to stop, and I will not. When it’s over, there will still be pain. You will not want to use your power for a while, and it will take some time for you to find your new normal.”

JJ Hunter

Is chaos effectively anti-matter? anti-authority? inherently non-Euclidean? I keep coming back to Esh-erdi's interlude in 131 ("Did they have some sense of what this creature was? Did they feel the becoming and unbecoming? The chaos oozed around it as it struggled against them and the richness of this world they lived in"). Why does the richness of the world matter for how much the demon is struggling to assert its existence? I keep thinking the chaos oozing around it *is* its version of reality, its version of authority, and that chaotic version is fundamentally anti-authority, anti-matter as our existences require. If Stu's chosen skill is typically intended for cross-dimensional exploration, will it have facets to grow his sensitivity for the properties of the potential dimensions he might aim for? Accidentally connecting to an inherently chaotic dimension or one otherwise wholly inimical to Stu's assertion of existence (or that of his companions - squadmates?) seems like it would be a sad, abrupt end to all his potential here.

Anthony Lutz

my headcanon for the "cross-dimensional exploration" it was designed for is to enter the chaos dimension to assault it directly. Allowing the knights to go on the offensive instead of the defensive for once. It could be that the discovery of the first resource worlds was an accidental discovery during the practice of making ways. So Stu's pause when explaining it was because he didn't want to nessisarily say "we're trying to genocide an alternate dimension before they genocide us" and instead gave the safe but still true "cross-dimensional exploration"

ClownWhosFeelnDown

Considering it's possible for people to become demons, I doubt chaos originates from another dimension. It's seems like it's more of a mutation or loss of control. Alden almost became one when he nearly blew his skill, and the demon in this chapter was supposedly a wizard that was obsessed with mind magic. My guess is that it's similar to the sinker sender particles, where it's an authority that is dedicated to continuing what it is meant to do. Except it's worse, since it's not residual magic particles, it's still alive and growing, so if left alone for too long demons could eventually become apocalyptic level threats

S

I've been thinking of it as unstable authority. It clearly interacts with authority in the same way that authority reacts with authority - Alden can feel when chaos bugs hit him but he can also feel when the Quaternary literally holds him together. But its function is unbound, unstable, seething, roiling - potentially fighting. I wouldn't be surprised if chaos is alternate-universe or parallel-dimensional authorities trying to expand into our own. If I'm right then the most dangerous thing would be some kind of affixed demon, because the structure of the affixation should strengthen them.

C. Adkins

I keep going back and forth on whether it is unstable authority, or like a cancerous authority, just transmittable because it’s authority and not physical. Like the sinker particles continued doing what they were supposed to, but a chaos version would do that, but also spread corrupted authority

Travis M

Chapter 59: "Avowed skill number one hundred and twelve,” she said. “Designed at a time when the Knights were fewer and weaker, and many believed they would not be able to push back the chaos without help." Chapter 60: “Normally, even if you were learning to use your authority, I wouldn’t talk to you about the original Avowed skills. I would have to violate some rules to direct you toward them these days, and you haven’t yet earned an extraordinary measure like that." The 300 are the original Avowed skills, not knight skills.

The Ox

Just Alden's Skill alone proves that the Artonans are acting with a deliberate policy to keep humans in the dark about as much as possible for as long as possible while using them as hard as they can for their own purposes. He took one of the most powerful Skills available to a human being, which had been deliberately concealed in a B rank skill list with a description that deliberately misrepresented its power and potential. What good is being able to make a choice with deliberately limited information about the choice's consequences? There are many Earth Avowed who have skills they don't know how to use, without any way but blind trial and error to level them. None of that is an accident. And in exchange for less war and a cure for malaria, Earth gets random lunatics with insanely evil powersets set loose without warning like the Body Drainer. As well as a very real but underemphasized possibility that the entire planet will be rendered uninhabitable by a Chaos/Corruption event. The only humans surviving such an event would be Avowed. What an awesome Deal. I agree that most humans on Alden's Earth think the Contract was a good Deal. But the Tri-Planets rigged the game from the beginning and concealed the potential downsides.

Terrestrial_Biped

We know he whispered from a distance for only Stu to hear. That's not necessarily a mental power at all; it could be simply throwing his voice. It seems like his relationship with Rel is probably good, since he has fond memories of Rel spending an entire season to show him the supply library.

JJ Hunter

@Michaellogan, given the Artonan political structure with resource worlds incorporated is described as an empire, and the resource worlds are expected to provide resources back to the TriPlanets in quantities and types controlled by the Artonans, terms like "imperialism" and "colonialism" do appear to be apt here. The mode may be older - this seems more like Roman Republic shading to Roman Empire -style colonialism than 19th century colonialism per se - and yes, Earth may be seeing some benefits from the arrangement so far, but that doesn't make "colonialism" an inaccurate term for the canonical political relationships. What if there's genuinely a good reason for an empire-sized military of a world-destroying scale of threat? Does that justify the underlying political imbalance and elements of coercion to maintain the colonial status quo? Are there other political arrangements possible between the TriPlanets and their auxiliaries aka Avowed that would still support sufficient combat resources to protect the member worlds involved? There are lots of interesting questions to ask here! Many of them may not get answered in canon given the focus on Alden's story - he's living in a politically messy world among many politically messy worlds. We are also living in messy political times. What's interesting to me isn't the purity of anyone's politics in the story but how each character chooses to navigate the mess to ensure the necessary things get done. There are no operations without some compromises; who bears the brunt of that? Who works to lighten or share that load? Excited to find out more about how the politics got to be the way they are now, and where they're headed, and how Alden is already having more of an impact than he realizes.

Travis M

@Colton The uncapped skills are not hell on the budget, forcing people to affix is hell on the budget. Joe told him to wait until just before that point to get the uncapped skill's old progression path. It would be have been no more or less expensive, but would have bypassed the restrictions intended to hide the 300 uncapped avowed skills. What makes Alden's affixation more expensive is his authority sense. Ch. 137: But he had a lot of reason to believe his future ones had become more expensive in that way Systems seemed to care about. Joe had once said the Contracts didn’t want to force affixations on Avowed in part because they were “hell on the budget.” Even with Alden fully agreeing on Artona I and having been as thoroughly warned about the nature of it as he could have been… “You will fight back, and you will lose.” --- It is the fighting back that makes his particular situation expensive.

JJ Hunter

Other thought of the evening: all this backstory really adds so much poignancy to Jeneth-art'h's initially comic introduction to Alden. Yes, the Primary was lurking behind a potted plant at a wild party soberly reading a book with one mind and attempting to surreptitiously assess the quality of Alden's authority with his other. Yes, his heavily pregnant triplet-sib deliberately riled him up with a childish argument until Jeneth bit his pride and agreed to hold Alden's hand to do it more directly instead. Fundamentally, Jeneth was there at a party he didn't care for because his youngest child wanted the assurance of Jeneth validating his perception of reality. Again. And the Primary took the time to do it personally, and Stu trusted he would, and that tells you everything, really, about what happened after these flashbacks for Stu to feel like he could trust what world he was living in.

Jeremy Goldberg

I keep thinking of gorgon’s assertion that any wizard over a certain power level consorts with demons to some degree. What does that mean? Why in the world would they do that?

puppy0cam

the conclusion I've reached in my head is that chaos is the simplification of reality. It erodes away at your existence as Alden Thorn into a human boy, into a human, into a living creature, and so on until all of reality exists as the same pattern repeating continuously.

C. Adkins

Dude. This broke me. I didn’t connect that at all. Thank you!

SkySeeker

Maybe that's the only way to get the really good ingredients. If Jel-nor was willing to summon that Mishnen (sp?) she couldn't handle as a student, how far do you think more experienced wizards would go?

Charlie

my guess for "Maker of Narrow Ways" is that it was meant to help them find resource world and the like-to-like is finding sentient things like them across dimensions.

Gaffer

Joe got the memo, nodded, and promptly started bribing humans with bio weapons, skill training, and free moon-based vacations to Chaosberry farm.

Kim Enteiu

It’s just statistics I think; once you’ve reached a certain level of power think of all of the people you’ve worked with and grown close with. If any of them were fellow wizards then it’s not unlikely that you personally know a chaos-corrupted wizard who is now a demon. As long as they are more like Thunder Lettuce and less like the ones very likely to corrupt things around them, it’s an invaluable opportunity. We don’t know how much of the original remains after chaos takes hold, so it’s probably a sliding scale. To assume demons are all mindless suggests a strong prejudice that isn’t shared by all.

Terrestrial_Biped

Personally I think that sentence fell prey to a bad translation. I suspect Uniques are, fundamentally, people who were altered by chaos and then stabilized by a Contract before they could die or demonize. As creatures altered by chaos, the word for them in Artonan might get translated to English as "demon".

Matt DiMeo

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR7eEHqapGes5oo7kqR539jAfZ24wHaF6SqTjy1ud82gpX7ToMPx_e9NQbVPi4lxTOH2ywIiz9xsHdj/pub The 300 skills are not knight skills - an essay.

VP

I didn't realize that had been Rel! You are right, they must be close

Brell

Chaos caused Alden's Authority to grow. Demons spread Chaos. Wizards want to learn and grow; those who are strong enough probably can't progress without interaction with demons.

Kahandran

Welp. You convinced me. Halfway through I still felt that the evidence was weak and it could be interpreted either way, but the sheer volume of references changed my mind. It probably would have been explicitly stated by now that Alden's skill is a knight skill if it was. For the speculation section, I agree that it makes sense that wizards would continue designing and improving on skills for new knights rather than stick with what some ancient wizards designed hundreds of years ago. There's no evidence that Artonan civilization is in any sort of "dark age" (unless demons caused it when they appeared), so they've probably only gotten better at magic. 100/100 for effort. Now I guess I gotta save this doc and show it to other people /sigh

S

... By holding hands with the Primary? More seriously, Kibby talked about needing routine not-a-demon tests so they're probably used to the process

jg

And Kivbee's! A gentle chaos breeze according to Gorgon, ideal for growth by Mother, felt constantly by Alden after all the normal people died (either askew or assertive , before magic spark) And then this chapter!

McIntosh Ewell

I think it's very likely that when Gorgon was searching for the right skill for Alden, in addition to finding something with unlimited growth, he tried to account for Alden's personality, history and goals. It makes sense now that Bearer of All Burdens is SOOO well suited to him.

JJ Hunter

@Obbu, and it continues another layer deeper, even. Both children saw (or saw the aftermath of) their mothers dying and a new male protector ripping or cleaving someone who threatened their continued existence / integrity of staying themselves in half. Arjun literally ripped the threatening youth nicknamed the Body Drainer (was he an authority drainer?) in half when that person went for Alden to keep fighting. Stu was present for his father using his skill on his mother, which typically involves someone being bisected.

Super Super Supportive Supporter

‘Ah yes this is a guy who will totally make a martyr of himself and subject himself to absolute misery for the sake of others, I shall give him the perfect tools to do so’ Man that’s pretty mean of Gorgon :(

Matt DiMeo

In addition to Earth optimizing for things other than maximum power, Avowed will almost all have multiple skills over their lifetime, so the first one is ‘t that special.

Kinga K

This chapter was Phenomenal. Thank you much

NonuvfOorbiz

“My mother was the one who made a victory that didn’t involve the total destruction of the world possible,” This reads a bit weird. Should it say "that made it possible to avoid the total destruction of the world"?

ChoWingGom

Thank you for the chapter! I like the scene with Alden hesitating at the halfway point between Anesidora and Matadero, before aknowledging he had made the relevant decisions previously. His current choice is following through or going back on his decisions. It feels like a parallel with all the other stuff going on with his life. Go to the good-vibes-family's party, Boe! Mina is alive! Only her... RIP Riley and Jacob :(

JJ Hunter

Pssst - Did you mean to leave this comment on an older chapter (163), or the latest chapter 168 just released?

Alarm Clock

so this is unrelated, but what would theoretically happen if he froze his auraed