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I'm still working on the next big update, the Caged Bird, but now that I'm doing this full time I'm finding I have a lot more time to fix problems with my mod which I didn't have time to do when I was working two jobs.  I didn't want to wait to get these out because some of these changes are LONG overdue.  I consider most of these changes to be Quality of Life improvements and I really think they are going to go a long way towards fixing some minor annoyances with my mod.  

So, first off the most significant change.  I updated my sex detection code to better detect who the penetrator is during sex:

[Shown above: my simplified debug output for my new sex detection code]

Better support for non-heteronormative sex has been something a long time coming and something that I've greatly missed since I first released the mod.  The new sex detection code doesn't way sim's flagged gender's so much in deciding who is the penetrator in a sex interaction anymore.  Now gender, animations flagged gender, penis status, strapon status, and context matters when determining who the penetrator is during a sexual interaction.  This now allows for detection of most kinds of queer sex that I tested(trans/female, male/male, female/female, trans/trans, trans/male).  But because WW doesn't keep track of who the penetrator is there will be a few animations where proper detection can fall through the cracks.  Still, this is a huge improvement imo and allows for you to use WW settings like ignoring gender entirely to allow for the use of normally heteronormative sex in gay sex interactions without it breaking my sex detection code.  I'm very excited and thrilled by this updated code, and I hope you will be too!

Small overhaul to the new escort call center lot trait.  I hated how this functioned previously.  But i got distracted by working on the new escort 'dates' so I wasn't able to refine it for the last update.  Well, they have been refined in a few major ways now.  For one, when you accept a client call while on the escort lot, your sim will be temporarily blocked from receiving calls.  If you would like to receive an additional call then there is a new interaction in the Ho Controller for this: 

'Accept Additional Call' This will flay your sim as ready for another call.  Alternatively, if the client leaves the lot before you service them then your sim will be flagged to receive another call, and ofc after servicing the sim your prostitute will also be flagged to receive another call automatically.  

But there's more.  The other thing I hated about this was how the summoned clients would just sit around outside the lot and you had to look for them and babysit them to receive your prostitute's services.  No more.  Now when a client is summoned to the lot they will run to the active lot, after arriving they will then come to greet your prostitute and get added to your prostitutes group.  You see that crystal in the title image?  That shows the client in apart of your prostitute's group.  While they are apart of your group you can also use group interactions like 'sit here together' which can help you stage appropriate scenes with your clients.  after servicing a client they will be automatically removed from your prostitute's group.  

Speaking of groups, this functionality has also been added to prostitute's solicit client interaction!  Now when your prostitute solicits a client it will work a lot like the 'ask to hangout interaction' the sim will be added to your sim's group and, if you are on your home lot, they will run to your house.  This will help mitigate the problem where you sim solicits a client and then the client immediately runs off the lot to go home, and, again, will help you keep better track of your clients.

I've also added a new timer interaction to prostitutes.  I've always forgot to keep track of how long I've taken x client or y prostitute to bonetown and time is a pretty important thing to keep track of for this mod.  Well now when a prostitute is boning a new interaction is added which will display the time (in hours) the prostitute has been banging each of their clients in a sex interaction: 

It's important to note this only tracks the amount of charge time.  So if a client wants oral and you give him 30 min of oral and then 30 min of anal then the timer will still display 30 min of oral even though you've been banging for an hour.  After all, your client isn't paying for the etra sex interaction so why time a gift?

When you register a debt slave they will now delete the relationship bits they had with their previous owners.   Yes this didn't happen before, and really should have never caused problems under normal circumstances.  But, when reregistering a debt slave after you stop them from being a debt slave with a console command, this could cause the incorrect debt owner to be flagged when you register a second time.  Not anymore, now when you register your debt slave they are scanned for any previous debt owners and the appropriate relationship bits are removed.  

Vaginal Sex has been re-added as an option for male prostitutes.  This was an oversight by me when making the original system but is now fixed.  When at least one puss puss haver is being solicited for sex they can now choose to get their puss puss banged real good.

For my aspiration apparently doing coke from sinks wasn't working.  It now is.  

[Please note: If you are upgrading from the public version of my mod on LL then please delete the 'WickedPerversionsMod' folder located in your The Sims 4/saves folder, likewise if you are downgrading.]

 

Changelog


6/30/2018 ver 2.0.992a

  • Fixed a minor bug with the new client ensemble code
  • Now clients will try to leave the lot after being services on an escort call center lot!

6/30/2018 2.0.992b

  • Fixed an error when prostitutes solicit clients.

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Lucinda Tungsten

Sounds great,can't wait to try it.I don't mean to pressure you but just wondering if any idea on how long before Caged Bird will be released and also if any plans to incorporate it into your other mods?I am thinking Caged Bird,Debt Slave,Prostitution,sounds like a great platform for having pimps.

DeliaDeetz

Awesome updates! I am really liking the timer and the ability to stop the calls from coming in back to back. I was also wondering in the next update if maybe you could toss in some code to make them leave afterwards. I get some that damn near take up residence sometimes lol I had one come over, get laid, cook a meal, watch a few movies, have sex with a few of my clients before I did so I finally used MCCC to make him leave because the ask to leave option wasn't working for him. That has been a common occurrence.

Mortiferus

WOOHOO, My Idea is released! THANKS!!! :-D

RetainedKitten

Thanks so much, I hated trying to find the client in a busy bar, by the time I found them sometimes they were saying goodbye 😋

NisaKsPervs

I'm glad you are enjoying the changes :D I was very annoyed by the old system too.

Katz 52

as usual, I love it, but today I got a Nisas_Last_Exception

Katz 52

but I don't know how to upload it here on Patreon

Plumpkin Pumpkin

Hey Nisa, I'm having a problem with your mod after deleting the older files and downloading this one. I get a Nisa error, please help :(

NisaKsPervs

Hey Plumpkin Pumpkin and thank you for all your support. Can you please send me the LE? either copy and paste the LE into PM here or PM me it on the discord? Also can you describe around when the LE pops up? Like does it seem like something is triggering the LE?

Anonymous

Hi Nisa, I'm getting a Last Exception. It comes up when my sex worker offers herself to a client. I'll send via PM.

Anonymous

Nisa, did you get it? My computer seems to have issues trying to send messages via Patreon for some reason. If not we can talk on LoversLab.

Anonymous

LOL... I just updated for the first time in a few weeks and I must have done so JUST before you posted the hotfix. All working now, sorry about that!

NisaKsPervs

No worries, I'm just happy we got the issue sorted out, would rather you suffer with company than suffer alone.

Selena

Hi. I'm getting a Last Exception, too. It comes when my sim offers herself to a customer. I do not know what's wrong. Can someone help me pls?

NisaKsPervs

Hey Selena, If you have the LE then it's best to send it my way, you can copy and paste it into a private message and message it to me here if that would work with you. But first make sure you are up to date. I uploaded two hotfixes yesterday. Please redownload the mod from the above link and install to make sure you are using the latest version 2.0.992b as the latest version fixed an issue similar to the one you are describing.

ZR

Hi Nisa! I'm a new patron and am very impressed by how much you've developed the mod over the free version listed at LoversLab. I wanted to make a small request, and I understand you have a lot on your plate but I figured I'd chime in with my thoughts. Do you think at some point in the future it might be possible to be able to adjust how much prostitutes are paid for sex? I have no idea how complicated it would be, but the ability to set my own rates would be great. It would be nice to be able to roleplay as the sim gets more experienced. I don't think my beginning prostitute should be charging $800 for anal haha, It has some effects on the way income works in the game, and would prefer to almost treat it as a career of sorts rather than my sim sitting on 20k within a couple of days of creation

NisaKsPervs

Hello ZR! Thank you for your support! The thought of making the pay rates user controlled has crossed my mind but I decided to pass on it partly because it'd be very tedious for a user to do, and partly because not allowing it to be custom set per price point opens me up to more options in the future for expansion. First , let's talk about if you set it yourself. If you wanted to alter every number individually, then that would be 6 numbers for each sex act per age group.... so that would be 24 numbers to manually set and then it'd be static. Annoying to keep track of (especially if there is a change where the old save data becomes invalid) and pretty boring. So instead, what I'm working towards is a dynamic progression system for prostitutes based on their age, composition of clients, and town wealth. The basic parts of such a system is actually already in the mod although I don't do a bunch with it, yet. Try opening up the console and typing in 'nisa.net_worth' into the console without quotes. This will output basic stats about the net worth of your npc sims in your game world. I use this information to divide sims into three classes, a lower, middle and upper class based on the stats of your particular game save (for instance the average in my game is about 30k, where the average in one of my patrons game is like 200k+ ). Using this information and information about the prostitute, they will dynamically be assigned a rank with a pay rate tuned to their world's statistics. But, anyways, that's not now but coming. In the meantime there are some prostitution settings in the tam explorer which allows you to set a low medium or high preset for your prostitutes income. More info can be found on it here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/salty-surprise-0-19012805">https://www.patreon.com/posts/salty-surprise-0-19012805</a>

ZR

Wow, thanks for the detailed reply! Having the ability to halve the payments by 50% through tam explorer is good enough for me at this point. I didn't see that before but I'm assuming that's because I was on the free version. Sounds like you've got quite a lot planned for the system financially, and I'm looking forward to. One thought I had off the top of my head was doing it percentage-based. Like being able to enter "0.9" in a field to receive 90% of the regular income across the board. That would remove the annoyance of having to set it individually across every age group and every sex act, while still giving players more control. With how complicated it looks like the system will eventually be, however, I trust you know better than me :) At this point, I will work with the "low" settings.

ZR

Hi Nisa, A couple more questions with this recent update. I understand that you updated your sex detection code. I noticed from the screenshot that there were traits like "prefer gender" and "Is penetrator." Could you share the debug command to see that information? And is there a way to adjust it through the mod, or through wicked whims? Specifically, I'm playing a male gay prostitute and would like him recognized as male but also not as a penetrator, since he's a bottom. is that possible with this update? Also, is there a way to set the gender of the global client list that solicits my sim while on a brothel lot? It's not the end of the world to have to turn down the female sims that call, but it would be nice to be able to specify a gender that my sim will be solicited by. Thanks so much for your work on this mod, I'm very excited!

NisaKsPervs

Sure thing, the console command is mainly meant to help me debug the new sex detection code, it doesn't display all the logic but a whole lot of info about the current active sim's sex interactions if they are currently engaging in intercourse. The command is 'nisa.sex_detect' The updated code should catch most gay interactions now but there are still a few that are likely to fall through the cracks with respect to gay males. But most animations I tested, the sims were detected properly. A male/female filter for the lot trait has been suggested before. I'll do some more digging into it tomorrow to see how I'd implement such a system.

NisaKsPervs

Lol, I have a very long list of content planned. I'm in no danger of running out of ideas anytime soon. I've thought about having a percent scale setting.... but then that would be so close to the indebted sim's configuration. There will likely be new settings added after I fully implement the dynamic ranking system.

ZR

Cool, sounds good. I'm messing around with the settings and it seems like my sim wants to top almost exclusively. I've tried a number of different gender settings in wicked whims (biological / gender / allow m/m interactions) and it seems like he's always penetrating. The only solution I can find for right now to make him "bottom" is to check "no" for "does this sim have a penis" in CAS, but then he won't get hard during sex because it's not recognizing his genitals. I'm not sure if it's the specific animations I'm using or settings or what. I could never get wicked whims to work quite correctly for gay males. Do you have any recommendations on the wicked whims settings to adjust to get it to work closer to the way I want? Sorry for all the questions, I appreciate the help &lt;3

NisaKsPervs

This would be a great thing to suggest to TURBO when they get back from their break. Currently, I don't think there's a way to flag a sim as 'always bottom' instead, when WW can't use gender to determine who should take on the 'male' role in an animation, then it puts the initiating sim as the 'male' role.

Anonymous

You can knock down the earnings by a lot more. As long as it's irrelevant to the story, you can have them be debt slaves. From here, you can adjust quite a bit from the low, med, high payscale and adjust how big of a percentage they get to take home.

RetainedKitten

Getting an LE not sure if it's due to this or WW reported to Turbo as well <a href="https://pastebin.com/q5BvkHMz" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/q5BvkHMz</a>

NisaKsPervs

Hey, thank you for all your support the LE! I'm not sure what could be causing it from TURBO or my mod, it looks like it's an error related to holidays. I know Basemental does some things with holidays in their patreon version, maybe try running by them?

DeliaDeetz

This is actually a game error from what I understand. It isn't your mod or WW. It's some wanky game code the EA is aware of and will be fixing in the next update. I figured it out by removing everything from mods and starting the game after deleting the previous LE file and it generated a whole new one with no mods/cc installed at all.

Lucinda Tungsten

I had a LE too and game told me to notify you,I doubt it is anything but maybe it will help you,if not I am not worried about it...yet lol. Ver 2.0.992 at Time: 07/06/18 01:38:37 on Windows with WW 3.3.4.132.2 Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\\Python3\\My_Project_Scripts\NisaK\utilities\hazard_detector.py", line 30, in wrapper File "E:\\Python3\\My_Project_Scripts\NisaK\wickedpervs\prostitution.py", line 568, in apply_to_resolver KeyError: '617001672300953993'

NisaKsPervs

Hey Lucinda, thank you for your support and the LE. This was fixed in a recent hotfix, please redownload the mod from <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/quality-of-life-19760186">https://www.patreon.com/posts/quality-of-life-19760186</a> to get the latest version. Let me know if you need any more help!

Lucinda Tungsten

ok thank you.I thought I had most recent but just DLed and will give it a try,thank you again.

Lucinda Tungsten

Thank you,apparently I did have an older version installed,works great now.Thank you again.Happy SIMming

Anonymous

Hi Nisa, great work, love them XD, but just one thing tho, it's kinda wired when the customers called and they would go to a random place, for example a complete stranger's house to have sex. It's super awkward when the house owner or someone else walks in and found out there is a prostitute having sex with a guy they don't know on their bed XD I kinda liked how the costumer used to come in prostitute's place, maybe just make the escort places community or the customer's house and not a stranger's house. Thank you :D

NisaKsPervs

Lol, I agree, I'll remove the residential lot option for escort dates until I can figure out how to restrict it to the owned lot of the client. Also, with the next small update, I'll be adding a third option to client calls that would bring the client over to the prostitutes house (like the old system) and changing up how debt slaves handle calls. I think you'll enjoy the changes. I was waiting on a update to drop to release the small update (it has a bunch of hotfixes as well) but I may just go ahead and put it out there tonight or tomorrow. We'll see.

Anonymous

Thank you for replying in such a short notice. I'll looking forward to the update :D keep up the work ur mods r awsome &lt;3

dmaster1968

just a minor question as I am new - is the prostitute a job career?

NisaKsPervs

Hey there! It's not a typical career, like a 8-5 rabbit hole career. You sign up for it on the Tam Explorer (which you can find on computers) through the Lost Eden site, and then engage in when you want to. So you can do prostitution in addition to a more traditional career if you so choose. Hope this help clear things up, let me know if you have anymore questions!

NisaKsPervs

Hey Steve Yi, make sure to press the reply button when replying to my comment or else patreon well sometimes not notify me of a response. (Forgive me if you already did, patreon has been finicky lately anyways). The lost eden prostitution website follows a garden theme. So women prostitutes are called by flower names (i.e. roses and lilies) where as male prostitutes go by exotic fruits (like kiwano, or kumquat). The virginity settings is for resetting your sim's virginity, if you don't see anything then it's likely that your character is still a virgin according to my mod (which begins tracking sims after you install it).

dmaster1968

not sure but there seems to be some conflict with most recent Wicked Whims mod update - I will check again.

NisaKsPervs

Hey, let me know. I tested it shortly after it's release and everything looks like it's working fine for me.

rhames01

Nisa, I'm really enjoying your mod but I do have a couple of questions. The first is that once someone is a debt slave, does money they earn while they are an npc (you're playing the sim they are the slave to). For example if one of my sims has a couple of debt slaves and happens to live on a lot that is a call center and invites the debt slaves over will they take calls and make the currently played sim money? The next question is whether it is possible to turn off the call center for a bit; in other words close it for the day.

NisaKsPervs

Hello! So the debt slaves do not autonomously perform jobs, yet. If you'd prefer a live in house slave, then that update is currently being worked on. As for turning off the call center, you'll be happy to know that in the next hotfix (which will be released tonight or early tomorrow), normal prostitutes will regain the option to invite their clients to their house instead of going out. Debt slaves calls will also be changed to forced client visits, which will probably work better for your kind of gameplay. Let me know if you have any other questions and thank you for your support!

rhames01

I've actually been using self created mods using the vampires game pack to create live in slaves for a bit. Thanks for the heads up about the way the mod is currently set to work because it keeps me from having to test it.

DeliaDeetz

Hey Nisa, I have a question. Is there a command line to get rid of the tears and or blush from the sensually tight (sorry finger slipped I hit enter lol) trait. I added a mod that lets you have more traits and the game filled those slots with random traits. Now I have a whole bunch of sims with blush and tears. Even though I went in and disabled that in the tam explorer and removed the trait I still have sims with tears. I could have swore there was a command line to remove it but I can't find it anywhere.

NisaKsPervs

Hello! I made a console command and changed around my filter code exactly for this situation. In the future either just leave the traits on the npcs and wait for my filter to clean them up or use the command 'nisa.filter' without quotes, which will manually apply my cas filter to all npc sims and should clear those effects as well. There's also a optional parameter, 'nisa.filter st_effects' which will try to clear my effects from all npc sims regardless of them having the trait or not. So this would be your best bet for this current situation. I'm sorry about the trouble, an interactive help command is on my list of to-do's for finding my useful console commands (which are pretty hidden currently)!

DeliaDeetz

You don't have to apologize :) The st_effects command fixed the problem. Thanks!

rhames01

I just find out that when a sim does the final turn into a vampire, both the lusty and At that point both the lusty aspiration trait and the Barbie reward trait ceased working because upon examination they had been stripped from my sim. I think I know why this happened and I'm going to run a test on the next sim that is going to turn to see if it gets fixed. Otherwise, it really isn't that bad to just re-add the traits through the cheat interface (heavens forbid I wasted 30 whole seconds adding them back). If the bug reproduces and my fix works I'll let you know.

rhames01

Nisa: I figured out/confirmed what was going wrong and to keep it short the traits in the broken mind aspiration module aren't "compliant" with the changes since the Pets patch. I simply updated the traits to make and everything is happy now. If you're interested and want the updated xml and (more importantly) updated simdata files (for princess, sex addict, valley girl, princess, has had anal sex, has had vaginal sex, and the mysterious hidden trait that appears after completing the aspiration) just let me know. Thanks again for the awesome mod and all your work!

NisaKsPervs

Thank you for looking into it. The aspiration is high on my list of things that need to be fixed. When it was originally made it wasn't meant to be released so I used the quickest/sloppiest tool I could find to try to make it in two days. So it lacks the quality of the rest of my work. In hindsight, I regret using that tool to make the aspiration so much... it would have taken much longer but I should have just manually made the tuning files myself. It will be in a hotfix sometime soon (not the one that I'm trying to release today though, but likely the next one). I'm sorry for the inconvenience!

rhames01

Nisa, there was no inconvinience at all and let’s face it: Zerbu’s tools are awesome but the newest (and probably final one) lacked the ability to make the aspirations that existed in the version before. When I make my own mods now I use a combo of various editions of tools (mostly to just generate the simdata files and reference numbers) and some good old fashioned copy and paste and thrn put it all together in a package using Sims 4 Studio. My offer still stands that if you want the already edited files to save yourself the time when you do issue the hotfix at some point then they’re yours. Thanks again.

Harry 65

Hi love the mod but have noticed a couple of problems. In my call center lot the clients sometimes turn up and straight away sleep with each other rather than the escort. The rate of phone calls I get is very high and quiet hard to manage sometimes is there any way to control this other thane register the phone. for example you could set hours available.

NisaKsPervs

Hmmmmm. This is a first. I don't typically play with a high amount of WW autonomy but Idk how I feel about blocking sex autonomy for clients who are on a prostitutes waiting list.... I guess I could in theory just block it on the escort call center lot but idk. It sorta makes sense that some clients would just have a really high sex drive. The calls for the center are meant to be a high volume so prostitutes can go and get to work instead of just waiting around all day for a call while on the lot. There is a system that blocks calls while your prostitute is currently with a client. But, I'm guessing that isn't enough? I've also tried to do something like make the initial call happen after only 15 sim minutes and then each additional call after 45 sim minutes, but the base game drama node system (what manages phone calls) is so incredibly broken that this didn't really work. Seriously, EA needs to fix it. However, if you'd like to have clients come to your home lot like it functioned before then I have good news for you. The hotfix update that's coming today adds more options to normal prostitute calls which includes the option to bring the client over to your current lot instead of going out to another lot to meet them. Let me know what you think?

Harry 65

The all live in the call center which I've turned into a sort of pleasure place with rooms for different scenarios and a private apartment for them to live in between working. Would it be better if they lived off site and then came to work? Unless I de-register their phones they get constant call when not having sex. As for the clients having sex which each other if can happen very quickly before the escorts try and talk t o them. After reading your reply I think i can solve this but changing the settings on WW when I play that family. I like to play a lot of families. I hope my post doesn't come over as moaning. i Really love your mod, you can have a lot of fun with it. The other idea i has was if someone could order more than one escort at a time?

NisaKsPervs

Hey Harry, I'm sorry for the late response. Last few days have been crazy. Don't worry, you aren't coming across as moaning. You can currently service two clients at once. It's not a heavily tested feature but how you do it would be propositioning two clients at a single time and then starting sex with one client and then bringing the other one in. Remember you have too satisfy both their requests! So I suggest giving them each a turn in 30 min intervals! The call center really isn't meant to be a live in residential trait currently. However, the new prostitute client calls will give you the option to bring clients over to your lot when they call. So I think this will work for the kind of gameplay you are looking for. As for disabling clients from sleeping with other people until they have slept with the prostitute? I can look into implementing this but it won't be included with the next hotfix. I'll want to give it some significant testing. Feel free to bug me on occasion on how that's going through either the discord or in DMs here!