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In this episode we catch up with Trevor McFedries, founder of the meta media studio Brud (brud.fyi), whose digital avatar artist and influencer Lil Miquela recently caused a stir through signing with one of the worlds premier talent agencies, CAA.

We discuss the origins of the project, why he sees Miquela as more of a challenge to Mickey Mouse than human artists, and also some pretty bold ideas for how avatar led projects might help us reorganise the music industry to be more equitable.

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Interdependence 3 - Trevor McFedries (Brud / Lil Miquela)

Conversations with figures at the forefront of music, technology and policy from Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst's studio in Berlin.

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