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The Originals S1E1 (Patreon)

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2021-04-30 19:56:41
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2023-12-12 22:09:56
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Heather Hollenbeck

I don't think the vow "always and forever" itself is toxic. But I definitely think the way Elijah interprets it and lives by it is toxic :( He dedicates himself so completely to his family that he’s willing to take all this abuse from Klaus, like you said. Because he still views himself as being in the wrong if he doesn’t keep that vow he made (even though he has completely justifiable reasons for walking away). And unfortunately, since he doesn't see his own dedication to "always and forever" as being toxic, he ends up holding Rebekah to those same standards.

DazzleFae

I love how it's their human lives that effect them more than their vampire lives. Like, yes, Mikael hunting them down has added to the paranoia, but that started long before they turned. Mikael was awful to Klaus even when they were human, and that's gonna make anyone paranoid. But for Elijah, he feels he failed Klaus when they were human by not stopping Mikael's abuse and so he's spent the last thousand years staying by his side through everything because he feels the need to make up for that. He feels responsible for Klaus becoming the person he is. Rebekah was happy as a human, loving, sweet, kind, tough. She had that humanity ripped away from her so young and has always wanted it back. And Klaus probably resents them a bit because they didn't suffer the same abuse he did growing up. That's not their fault, and he knows it and is likely glad that they didn't because he does love them, but he's got all these things that separate him from his siblings that they can never understand and that must be so lonely... :( As Heather said above, about Always and Forever and whether it's toxic or not. I agree. I mean, it started as a small thing between siblings just to say they love each other. Then after they turned, it kinda became a reassurance to Klaus that they'd never leave him or turn their backs on him like their parents did. Elijah takes it very literally though and can not stop living by it or dedicating himself fully to it. Klaus also took it too literally in the sense that any time either of them tried to leave him, he stuck a dagger in their hearts in order to keep them around (it's sad that his abandonment issues are that bad, but like, it's so messed up and they don't deserve it. I understand his POV on the whole thing, but I don't excuse it like some people do...) And Rebekah occasionally found herself kinda straying from it when she found love or something else she enjoyed, but most of the time she also dedicated herself fully to Klaus. The vow became less about them all loving each other and more about them trying not to feed into Klaus' abandonment issues and insecurities about his parentage...

Rashthem

To answer your question about why didn't Klaus Elijah Rebecca jump mikael and overpower him, it probably a bit psychological and also because mikael was a Viking hunter and a superior fighter. Hunting and feeding on the predator (Vampire) and carrying the white oak which he only wanted to use on Klaus. I think ester made him superior to his children like with Alaric if you remember I could wrong tho

Libby

I think one of the main reasons there was never any pIan for KLaus/Rebecca/Elijah to jump Michael had a lot to do with the lie Klaus told them. Klaus was running from the truth. If they did anything but run that would have given Michael an opportunity to tell them the truth. That he had no desire to kill anyone but Klaus and that Klaus killed the mother, not him. There are some other possible factors: I don't think Ester made him superior to her children I think he became superior to them due to the fact that he fed off of vampires instead of humans. It would make a lot of sense considering precedent set in TVD. Like when we first meet Damon and Stefan. They are the same 'vampire age' meaning they have been vampires for an equal length of time. However Stefan fed on bunnies and squirrels and whatever cute defenseless forest animals he could find. Damon fed on humans and was therefore significantly stronger than Stefan. So if Michael has been feeding on vampires, a stronger, superior species, it would make sense he would be stronger/faster etc. I also want to touch on the vampire strength age thing After watching TVD it has become apparent to me that older vampires are stronger because they have been consuming blood for longer. More blood = stronger vampire powers. There seems to be a direct correlation between blood consumption and power, As was just demonstrated by Silas on TVD. BY bingeing blood his psychic powers have gotten exponentially stronger. So it also appears to correlate to how recently you have consumed said large amount of blood since desicated vampires are super weak. So Michael had been locked in a coffin desicated for like 20 years. His strength was diminished and Klaus had been free feeding on anyone and anything. That should have given Klaus an advantage that he hadn't previously had over Michael. That along with the surprise of Katherine to distract him and Klaus's anger contributed to Klaus being able to kill Michael. Having said all that just to cover how maybe Klaus/Rebecca/Elijah feared him physically... I completely agree that they also didn't do it for emotional factors like fear. PS: Lol I have always LOVED that Michael sat there berating Klaus about how his impulse control was the thing that kept him from being truly great... just prior to Klaus murdering Michael on IMPULSE.