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Well... fuck. (Update) (Patreon)

Published:
2018-08-05 21:42:13
Edited:
2018-08-05 21:43:19
Imported:
2022-09

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Hi all!

An official update. I have run into a snag in regards to the illustrated Edition of HFHM.

In lat eMarch of this year, the federal government passed new regulations banning certain types of materials from being distributed online. The point of this law was great - they are trying to reduce sex trafficking (it's more involved than that, but I'm summarizing).

As a direct result of this law, many e-retailers became much more strict on what they allow for upload. For erotic novelists, there's always been certain difficulties they need to avoid, but the e-retailers are now giving better guidelines as to what is okay and not okay.

I just finished a frantic search through Amazon, Smashwords, Barnes and Noble, etc. If I were to upload the Illustrated Edition with the current pictures it has, it would get banned. If they are really pissed, they could ban my publisher too.

Now, I could have artwork redone so that it matches guidelines online. However, that means no nudity (apparently even nipples can trigger a ban). While doable, that will take a lot of time.

The current artwork is more accurate to the feel of the book. Short of selling the book on my own website (I need to do a LOT of research on this - I don't want to end up running into legal/tax issues), I don't have a means to put it up for sale.

Which brings me to my last option. I am still planning on doing a Patreon Edition with some bonus content for you guys, but future patrons won't just be handed a copy of that when they sign on. I was thinking I might set it up so that (future) Patrons who hit the $25 mark can get a free copy of the  Illustrated Edition.

I would love to hear some feedback from you folks. This won't affect the book itself. I was planning to have the Illustrated Edition as a different ebook that could be purchased for those who wanted the art. This also doesn't affect current Patrons. Just want to hear some thoughts or ideas.

Hope you had a great weekend!


Comments

Anonymous

If you need to compromise then drop the illustrations till you get established the prerelease it illustrated.

Rick Barker

I would en courage you sell from your web site. We are talking art here, 1st amendment stuff. If you look at the graphic novels online Comixlogy.com as an example, your graphics are tame. A credit card processor is not that hard and you can put up an LLC to protect yourself from legal. Just saying...

Thanatos95

As someone that doesn't know anything about online retail all i can say is good luck!

Anonymous

If the government is going to do anything, it deosn't matter whether the item is listed by a retailer or on your own site. Remember, unless you own the server and own the line to the net (not just lease it from Comcast or other provider), your provider can always cut you off as well. I'd offer the book without illustrations and then maybe include links to them, and/or a link to download the full book from a third party known for supporting this. As for Rick Barker saying it is a 1st Amendment issue, it isn't when you're dealing with a business that is retailing your product for profit. You might not like it, but if we held that standard to them then they would have to sell some very questionable stuff.

Annabelle Hawthorne

Part of the issue with all of this comes down to taxes too. Distribution of ebooks is a super finicky thing right now. Tax laws involving digital goods have never been super finalized anywhere, and if I were to sell it on my site, I would have to consult a CPA to figure out if I am taxing at a rate based on where I live or where the LLC is based, etc. Also, like Kurt said, Squarespace may look at what I’m selling and say “Hell no,” and shut down the commerce side of things. I think my current plan is to finish the Illustrated Version I have planned and upgrade it with extras to my Patron Edition. I will then have the images replaced/edited to meet with e-retailer guidelines and release. Otherwise, we will have to wait for Dakzper to finish catching up and then redo about half the drawings (which would take time).

Anonymous

I would definitely up my Patron contribution to get access to the book so I think your plan is a great idea since it covers all bases and holds true to your original vision even if it is just a special edition version.

Annabelle Hawthorne

Potentially. I won't have any way to track people who bought the original through Amazon/B&N/Kobo (etc), so that plan, while good, may be difficult to implement. There were always going to be two editions - a more tame illustrated edition will just have to wait. Maybe I'll drop it around Christmas/New Years :P

Trimtab

The greatest literature I know of, the stuff that changed the world and later became movies, had no pictures. IMHO the pictures are very nice but I would treat them as fan art, and publish as literature pure and simple. Pictures change the publishing process somewhat, and your writing doesn't need them IMHO. I had read many chapters before I found your Patreon (and the pictures), and frankly the girls were hotter in my imagination, sorry. I have a very good imagination ;-). With pictures you can't please everyone's sense of beauty, but with words, the reader fills in the blanks with their ideals. Just my two cents: you don't need them at all. Side benefit is that you skirt whatever graphic rules and laws might exist from nation to nation or state to state. Non graphic erotica is less regulated (because of the children of course) and has numerous outlets. Only issue is that most of it is of a horrible quality. I've looked... That's why I'm here. :)

Trimtab

Sorry to double post, but also wanted to add why I suspect graphic erotica is treated so differently: If a young kid somehow gets their hands on a book with pictures of sexual content, then it can put parents in a difficult / awkward position, and angry parents are tough enemies which retailers try hard to avoid. In contrast, the same books only without erotic pictures would be ignored and forgotten by said hypothetical kids.