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Some nice stats!! (Patreon)

Published:
2021-03-15 19:29:13
Imported:
2023-06

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I (brandon) figured I'd share some stats with you after all the recent nonsense, just so you know how we're doing.

When we started the show back up last may, we were getting about 1k listeners per episode, which we thought was pretty good. toward the middle we got up to around 4k. Then about two months ago that jumped to ~7k. Now in the last month+ we've been consistently above 10k listeners per week! This is pretty great we think! And technically it may be more, because our counting method only counts "uniques" so if someone listens to multiple episodes in one day that doesn't get counted.

Interestingly the listenership seems to have increased since we lost tim - maybe because folks are curious about what happened, maybe because everyone who listens was trying to support us more and getting our name out there, but either way, things are trending in a positive direction as far as listeners.

As for the forums, we've got ~550 people there, but 1.7k posts per week. Goodness, that is a lot! We got a real vibrant community going over there (btw anybody who doesn't have your patron badge there but should because they're on the $10+ tier, let us know)

Another interesting thing, one we can't quite figure out, is pretty much every week we are number one or two (in the game category) in some specific country on apple podcasts. Like latvia or slovakia or something. Last week it was guatemala. This feels like a weird glitch but it's fun to see anyway. Perhaps odder than that is we've been consistently top 20 in ireland, and were even in the top 10 of leisure (the parent category of "game") a few weeks back. why ireland!? nobody knows.

Our stats come from a few things:

  1. checking our archive.org page - this is where we see how many "views" we got, which is basically every single instance of a person visiting an episode. It's hosted there even if folks check from spotify or itunes or whatever else, so that's the catch-all. that doesn't include people who listen to the patreon stream.
  2. checking platforms like apple music and spotify to see what our rankings are there. when I talk about rankings above it's mostly apple music because they have the easiest stats to see. as some of you all may know it's basically impossible to get your "real" stats and rankings without paying someone because you have to aggregate all the information from 12+ platforms and the make your best guess.
  3. chartable, which has some of that stuff spread out for us.

In terms of next steps, we're thinking about putting the old episodes up on youtube, but we're weighing the pros and cons. Pro is we get a new vector for listeners. Potential cons are we have 176 episodes with 100 views each and we look like a bunch of noobs. I do think we should put some sort of looping animation behind it so it doesn't look like nothing. But that'll be a lot of time for somebody rendering those all out! I'm still not 100% convinced we should do it but others think it's a good idea just for ease of access (what do you all think!?)

Thanks again to everyone for the support, it is clearly paying off, and these kinds of stats are what helped us realize we couldn't stop doing the show when tim left, so... yeah!! things are going well I think.

(oh yeah - as always, if anyone has questions about anything/comments/etc, lemme know!)

Comments

Anonymous

ya'll are kicking ass! Any reasons you guys think listenership jumped again a few months back?

Shaneus

I need a Patreon badge for the forum :) Forum username is Shaneus

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>>55656389

our supposition is that word of mouth got us to peak into the top 100 for the first time on a few platforms (apple music and spotify most notably) and quite often once you do get into the top 100, if you can stay there for a couple weeks, you won't leave, because people will often just check the top 50-100 to see what's popular and available and listen because of that. so being in the top becomes like a self perpetuating thing unless you screw up. So that's just a guess, but it does coincide with a few things lining up. we suspect we may have gotten a brief feature at some point too.

Anonymous

Going for the High Score

Anders O.H Moberg

Here's some stray Youtube thoughts: You could potentially bunch up a couple of them into a single Youtube upload and use the timecode feature to seperate episode as an induvidual chapter. So maybe, for example, one video would cover 10 episodes. Not so certain I'd listen to these.. If you wanted to do compilations on topics that are related that'd work well too. I understand that'd be more work, but y'know, just throwing darts. Idea darts. There's likely more of an audience for particularly picked individually picked highlights that are of some quality. Once a 3-7th day for a single segment, perhaps? I'd be interested in getting highlighted segments from the past before the re-launch, since I'm unlikely to go listen to episodes from back before that.. incase there's anything good there! I wouldn't know!

Anders O.H Moberg
>>55728597

Actually, since it's a recurring segment to return to an older question, maybe highlighting the original segment for comparison on You Toob could be neato

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>>55728597

Yeah, I reckon smaller chunks have a better shot than combining them into one big upload - and the comparison thing is a good idea! But tough to get the time to do. My feeling is we're just going to upload them with a bit of an animation or something and call it a day, but we could maybe look at this stuff for the future, since it's similar to what esper does for the weekly clips on twitter. we could also potentially put these on instagram or tik tok.

coughsoda

yeah, i think anything you could do to make the youtube uploads more visual would make them worthwhile. (crazy idea but hear me out,) maybe even pay someone to make very very rudimentary animations for the whole episode, so that it cuts to each speaker's avatar when they're speaking, bringing in box art and visual references in a cutesy way when they come up in conversation (maybe even a quick cut to a scene in a movie when someone quotes from it for a zinger), etc etc. iirc you guys also used to post actual screenshares of the four of you speaking on hangouts while you were recording, so you could occasionally toss in some of that footage too. upload one classic episode (starting from #1) per week as a "remastered edition" or something like that, which would be a much better way to eke out content (and space out the expense of paying someone a little scrill to handle the visuals) and experiment with form before committing to the bit. you could even drop a discussion post in the forum for each new "remaster" to drum up new discussion and interest for old topics. most likely the viewcounts would remain super low for a long time, but i think eventually it'd get caught in the algorithm and become a thing. certainly tim's youtube reach will continue to grow and i think you'd start getting these old episodes recommended to people who spend a lot of time watching his content, too.

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>>55838474

that all sounds like good stuff, but it also sounds like a full time job for somebody, which is out of our reach for the foreseeable future! I think we might wind up just having to go with a simple animation, because it basically has to take esper (or whomever) no time to do. A proper edit that requires brainpower would take a couple days per episode and is sadly unattainable. Maybe when we're rich! ha ha

coughsoda
>>55838474

i'm picturing something pretty simple, that i imagine a talentedish fan of the show might be wiling to do for like 500 a month, but i feel ya. with the barebones approach in mind i'm leaning more towards the 'maybe not worth it' side of your ambivalence, though i suppose you could always take em down later if need be

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>>55838474

it's really a money issue, because I wouldn't feel comfortable paying a fan less than they're worth to do it, and at present that's also 1/3 of the patreon - I really WOULD like to do something like this, it's just that I don't want to pay anyone bad rates for a lot of work. I'll think about what we could do that might be at least a little more fun than just one animation though, since it seems like there's a desire for it!