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THIS IS BRUTAL??!! | Heavenly Delusion (Tengoku Daimakyou) - EPISODE 10 | New Anime Fan! | REACTION (Patreon)

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2024-03-09 18:00:07
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WHY IS THIS ANIME SO BRUTAL!!!!

Here is the FULL and UNBLURRED reaction to HEAVENLY DELUSION Episode 10!

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Thomas Juino

this episode changes a lot with what we've had so far, but i think it's one of the best in term of storytelling and staging

Sprucefer

Btw there's 13 episodes so you have 3 left, not 2

Hwiyeop Kim

Yeah I definitely noticed that the studio was short on budget for this episode xD

Seith
>>131909742

Did we watch the same episode? The animation was great this episode (just look at the ice), just with a lot more stylistic choices made, especially for the more comedic moments.

Hwiyeop Kim
>>131909742

Yeah the ice quality was great but I see a lot of moments where the characters' faces are 'ruined'. For other episodes, the quality was great throughout the entire episode but you see a lot of low quality for this episode. They prob wanted to focus spending more time on drawing the ice stuff though

Seith
>>131909742

You might not like the style, which is perfectly fine, but saying that it's bad animation/art style or like you said low budget, is just wrong. 

Hwiyeop Kim
>>131909742

dude I just googled and literally everyone noticed how the quality is not as high as other episode...

Hwiyeop Kim
>>131909742

I'm not talking about how this animation style is better or worse, just saying the quality isn't as high as other eps

Muligan Shinzuo

Luke you are doing great so far, you even caught the little trinket the monster had (which i did not see first time around). Additionally you have some good (and some outrageously funny) theories however you are missing a bit of information to piece it together confidently (even though you had the right idea). You have to keep in mind that we are dealing with entities that have superhuman abilities which means that things you assume to be true for humans may not be true for them. Additionaly it seems that they concentrated more of their time to the encounter and therefore had to lower the quality (frames) on other parts but we got an awesome fight for that so i do not mind. I also assumed this episode would hit the most for you as you are a father and love your children ALOT. You are gonna get ALOT of answers in the next couple episodes and it can only go up from here on out. :)

MaxValion
>>131909742

It doesn't take a genius to see that animation quality and artstyle are extremely inconsistent in this episode. At times it turns into a slideshow. At times the lineart disappears completely, making the characters look weird. It really looks like the studio didn't have enough of either time or money to polish this episode.

Anonymous

This episode feels a lot different to the rest of the series because it was done by guest director Kai Ikarashi who is well known for his unique style especially with studio Trigger. One anime you've seen that you can point to his style for is episode 6 of Cyberpunk Edgerunners

Anonymous
>>131909742

Wasnt a matter of resources, this episode was done by a guest director and every artistic choice was intentional as seen with their other works. Its obviously not gonna sit well with everyone but it definitely wasnt a lack of time or funds

FaerieRose

You’re doing good. You actually put some stuff together that I didn’t when I watched it. Day 34 requesting that we watch Ascendance of a Bookworm after Vinland Saga.

Seith
>>131909742

I agree that animation quality and art style are inconsistent this episode and extremely different from the rest of the show. But I don't think the reason is low budget or time, it was a decision the director made for this episode. But yes, some scenes could have been polished a bit more. Nonetheless, the quality is still top tier.

Keith Merrington

Episode 10 was directed by a guest director Kai Ikarashi - who apparently has a 'unique' style. That's why everything felt so off. Apparently this was something to be excited about. Personally I think he messed it up.

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2024-03-10 22:51:39 Most of what we see in this ep seems to be artistic choice to me. Whether it's the different styles, the cutting/editing, etc... Budget is rarely the issue. It's virtually the same for every episode. And generally speaking, there's no big difference in budget between animes. On average, it's around $100,000 per episode. What changes is the experience of the studios, the skills of the team working on the anime/episode and the organization of the teams within the studio (more time is given to one sequence than another, more experienced employees are put on this or that sequence, etc.). The team behind this ep is essentially the same as on the others. And the director is still Hirotaka Mori. He knows what he's doing. He directed this week's ep 26 of Frieren, for example. In short, there's no particular reason to think they had a budget or skills problem. But I do agree that while this episode makes some interesting artistic choices, it breaks the homogeneity of the series' direction. Especially when you binge-watch it.
2024-03-09 21:03:12 Most of what we see in this ep seems to be artistic choice to me. Whether it's the different styles, the cutting/editing, etc... Budget is rarely the issue. It's virtually the same for every episode. And generally speaking, there's no big difference in budget between animes. On average, it's around $100,000 per episode. What changes is the experience of the studios, the skills of the team working on the anime/episode and the organization of the teams within the studio (more time is given to one sequence than another, more experienced employees are put on this or that sequence, etc.). The team behind this ep is essentially the same as on the others. And the director is still Hirotaka Mori and Kai Ikarashi. Mori knows what he's doing. He directed this week's ep 26 of Frieren, for example. Ikarashi is probably the reason for the "Trigger vibe" for this ep. In short, there's no particular reason to think they had a budget or skills problem. But I do agree that while this episode makes some interesting artistic choices, it breaks the homogeneity of the series' direction. Especially when you binge-watch it.
>>131909742

Most of what we see in this ep seems to be artistic choice to me. Whether it's the different styles, the cutting/editing, etc... Budget is rarely the issue. It's virtually the same for every episode. And generally speaking, there's no big difference in budget between animes. On average, it's around $100,000 per episode. What changes is the experience of the studios, the skills of the team working on the anime/episode and the organization of the teams within the studio (more time is given to one sequence than another, more experienced employees are put on this or that sequence, etc.). The team behind this ep is essentially the same as on the others. And the director is still Hirotaka Mori and Kai Ikarashi. Mori knows what he's doing. He directed this week's ep 26 of Frieren, for example. Ikarashi is probably the reason for the "Trigger vibe" for this ep. In short, there's no particular reason to think they had a budget or skills problem. But I do agree that while this episode makes some interesting artistic choices, it breaks the homogeneity of the series' direction. Especially when you binge-watch it.

mohal
>>131909742

Most of the people noticed and didn't like the change in style, but no one said it's because of budget issues at the time it aired, as it was directed by the studio Trigger director. Moreover, the style is fine for certain shows, just not for this one. I wish they didn't change the style, but I still love this episode a lot.

Chris

Yes, Heavenly Delusion is an animal that beats the crap out of you x)

rostikowb
>>131909742

It was a little strange, I don't know what they wanted to show, but it didn't work out very well 🤔

rostikowb
>>131917447

Same. The anime was based on "realistic" drawing, and in this episode it looks like they wanted to make Guren Lagan or Kill la Kill out of it. Which is fine in itself, but not in this context

Prohibidibabido

Luke is like "can't we just have ONE nice thing?! GOD DAMMIT!"

Dave M
>>131917447

yeah I've seen that take a lot, and from a thematic standpoint I can see where it comes from. His off model loose style definitely didn't fit within the overall theme of the show. Separating it from that though I feel like this episode looks sooo good. Gives me FLCL vibes for sure. I do kinda wish they animated more of the independent frames though lol.

Eric
>>131909742

its actually the opposite this episode is probably the one that cost them the most , it was a different director and a pretty high profile one. Kai Ikaharashi - key animator & storyboarder (Kill la Kill , Mushoku , Mob Psycho , One Punch Man , Cyberpunk Edgerunners , Bocchi the rock , fate/apocrypha , and more)

Eric

In response to your "did they run out of budget" i would say its the opposite and they put more money into this episde and the next by getting a guest director / animator Kai Ikarashi - key animator & storyboarder (Kill la Kill , Mushoku , Mob Psycho , One Punch Man , Cyberpunk Edgerunners , Bocchi the rock , fate/apocrypha , and more) These episodes are usually praised as the best animated episodes in the series. (If i recall correctly Ep.8 is the highest rated , then Ep.10 , then i think ep.3)

Adrian Muñoz

Im just here to comment that this anime won the "Anime of the Year" at Anime Trending Awards, beating Oshi no Ko at 2nd place and Vinland Saga at 3rd place.

mjaomjao2

the animation in this episode is actually a bit jarring. I don't remember it being that way but maybe I just got over it and forgot.

syaimaral

I originally thought the beggar looking dude brought the two there as food for the hiruko. He just acted weird getting on his knees watching them go into the building. Could have been trauma, could be guilt. I'm like what? He isn't going too? He might be an escapee and wanted but you would think he could scope it out since he is familiar with the place. Saw the toy thing on the spider leg. Thought it might be his son. Turns out it wasn't but maybe it can be. We don't know yet if there are hiruko that can freely transform between human and monster. Maybe it's like a late stage mature transformation. They didn't manage to kill it. Then I wondered if it could be another woman in the breeding settlement that lived there. She was a hiruko/human hybrid escaped from a facility who forcefully banged some men to make a hiruko/human baby. The entire time Luke was gushing over the family reunion I was stone faced thinking something is up. The reunion with the father and baby seemed genuine but the doll thing really bothered me. Then the attack at their new settlement made me suspicious. Like you're telling me this monster left its hunting ground and followed you all the way to your new settlement. That seems farfetched. It must be sentient and holding a grudge if true. Now I'm just thinking some rich folk are combining their DNA with hiruko to make superchildren in some underground bunker/fallout shelter. Because who doesn't want a super special kid? It's like a twisted grow your own baby plan where they grow babies by combining their genes with hiruko dna. It looks like they are paying a lot for them. And a new batch of children have just arrived. Generation whatever. Wonder what kind of powers they have. How much you want to bet they are more deadly? How are they doing on life expectancy? Looks like the prior batches of children have genetic defects or a faulty deadly sleeping chromosome that causes them to degrade prematurely.

Frentzy

2 more eps.....

Damaton

SPOILER: The flash that maru (that told him the spider was above them) got could be because his father is Kona, Kona was able to imagine things into existance but also make his imagination act like a camera, like when he saw Asura about to hang herself. Or its just an inherit ability of Hiruko to sense other Hiruko

del
>>131917447

Taste is subjective and I’m biased because I love the klk / gurren lagan style but I don’t get why people get tweaked by animators taking liberties with the art style and changing things up to dramatic effect. That’s sort of the whole point of animation as a creative medium imo since it’s really easy to draw whatever you want. Besides they knew that if they hired the klk guy he’s going to animate the klk way.

del
>>131928686

More people need to watch the peak Gainax / trigger productions

Arcade'owy Łowca

I honestly did not remember watching this episode.

Stefan

Sad thing the kid turned out to be the problem and the very weird guy is relatable. Sad town, no women with boobs allowed there, never going to visit it. The animation felt special this episode, I liked it

Rob
>>131909742

Probably my favorite episode tbh. I loved this "multiple art style" direction. Calling this artistic choice "low quality" is... interesting ? Faces are not ruined, those sequences (in the car for example) are made on purpose and are just more cartoony (but hella clean, those cuts are really well animated). This is everything but a budget episode. They just purposely mixed different art styles.

Rob
>>131917447

I agree with @del, I loved this episode precisely for its art direction

Asher Sanjan Abraham

Also Luke, ya better give us a 2-episode ending the coming Sunday. I can't be waiting another week for the finale.

patros36
>>131970067

Why THE FUCK would you even write this here....this is such a major spoiler, no one needs to know this at this point....WTF?????

Louispul5

You think the kids the guy gives drawings to turn into what he drew? Because he drew a few of these.

Harley Burnie

Damn. One if the most telling, informative, confusing, enticing, and damning episodes of Heavenly Delusion. I understood at the time that I then "got" an insane amount of info on the plot, but now, as a manga reader, this episode just hurts. Well, honestly, once you've read the mamga, EVERY episode of the anime hurts way more.

Harley Burnie

I'm a good bit disappointed, Luke. You just saw an episode about how if certain people die, they will become a Man-Eater, so Maru had to put that girl down. Now, you see a spider Man-Eater with a toy that matches the toy the two girls and the dad had, and you don't get it?!?