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That's why I keep saying civil wars suck: Because of the damage and pain they inflict.

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Perfesser Bear

Can't say I've never seen and heard this. Can't say I've never <i>felt</i> this.

Sonicrailin

That's the real way of War period . . . it looks grand from a distance, but up close it is as ugly as you can get. It doesn't care who starts, why, or how many sides are involved . . . all "it" cares about is the amount of bloodshed and chaos is spread across its twisted stage. And when it finally comes to an end, there really is no true victor . . . because of all that is lost in the process and what troubles lie waiting in the aftermath.

Travis Sebastian

Who was Liza? There's so much background material that I can't recall or know where she was referenced.

Karno

Herman's original girlfriend. She was killed in the spy mission on the DeCarnhahn compound.