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LGR - HDMI on a Black & White TV

Uploaded by Lazy Game Reviews on 2016-05-24.

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Anonymous

i should try that with my gramps black and white TV one day, if they still have it :D

Anonymous

This is great. I'm in the process of refurbishing a bunch of old 4:3 LCD monitors for use in table top arcade cabinets I'm building. Being in Hong Kong, I have access to Shenzhen and all the electronic goodness it offers. I found that I can rip out the old CCFL bulbs and upgrade the screens to LED backlights, and then upgrade the old control boards (with only VGA ports) to ones with HDMI. There's less of a generational gap in what I'm upgrading, but this is a timely video for me.

Anonymous

As I watch this, I can't help but think of an alternate world where the console technology is at 2016 Doom levels ... but the display technology has not advanced past B/W CRTs.

Anonymous

There must have been a lot of lag right? Nevertheless very jealous of this find. I have a nice Trinitron that I play old console on, but I also have a Roku 1 set up (because it still has composite connections) to watch 80s/90s TV shows on it as well.

LazyGameReviews

Actually, no! I'm sure there was *some* lag, but honestly it didn't affect gameplay. I've had more lag playing games over Steam's in-house game streaming.

Bunny

Makes sense for the clarity. I remember on my Mac LC II I only had a 16 color monitor. Color looked like junk, but greyscale looked almost 256 colour. Maybe we naturally see shades of b/w easier than colour

LazyGameReviews

It's notably a bit different for old Macs, since the greyscale mode features a different graphics entirely, optimized for monochrome displays to look as clear as possible. Whereas here, it's a full color image being piped into a B&W TV through magic, which is why I was surprised that it looked as decent as it did :)

Alyxx the Rat

Fallout 4 just feels SO appropriate in black and white it's not even funny.

LazyGameReviews

Absolutely. I'd really love to get a green phosphor monochrome display that would work with it, that'd be even more fitting!

Anonymous

Now you need to make a video of you watching the part of this video where you're watching yourself find the TV on the TV.

Anonymous

This is neat. Cool music, just toying with things for fun. Relaxing and enjoyable. :D I'd call those kind of videos "chlling with LGR". Actually, that would be a cool name for a cool YT playlist. :)

LazyGameReviews

This one was more chill than anything I've done in quite some time, even! Might be time for just such a playlist indeed :)

Anonymous

Signal path to my eyeballs: Commercial playback from 1980 Betamax cassette tape, broadcast over the air, then recorded on somebodies home VCR. Captured from VCR to digital and uploaded to YouTube. Streamed over the internet for YouTube playback, converted from HDMI to composite NTSC, to VHF RF at Clint's house. Recorded the output of the TV on Clint's camera, re-uploaded to YouTube, where I then re-stream it for playback on a GTX980 and 4k monitor setup. And it looks pretty good! Welcome to 2016 - mind blown.

Knifethrower

Whats going on with the aspect ratio on the tv, it looks like wide getting stretched to 4:3. Is that what's happening?

ZombieRonSwanson

I was hoping you would play Fallout on that TV

Lindsay Michelle

Wow, that was easier to accomplish than I thought it would be for some reason. I knew it would be basically using enough converters to be able to use HDMI, but it seems relatively easy to set up! And man, old TV commercials are really great on a old TV like that. Makes for more authentic viewing! I also liked the meta-ness of playing the video of the TV on the TV itself. :D Too bad you can't see much for playing games though, even when you try to change the resolution!

Kris Asick

I was trying to watch the reflection on the screen while it was off to get a better idea of your new abode. I also find it interesting that interlacing artifacts work both ways, in that by running a progressive signal through to that TV, you could see interlacing lines as stuff shifted on screen at 60 FPS. :B

LazyGameReviews

It's a chair, haha. It'll work, but it's still not quite the most comfy :) And thanks, glad you enjoyed!

LazyGameReviews

I'm not entirely sure, but it may have something to do with the HDMI conversion. It was running at 800x600 and looked all right on another monitor, but looked strange on the CRT.

LazyGameReviews

It's a strange feeling watching those old commercials on such a TV, more so than just about anything else I've done with media. Thank goodness for whoever recorded those back then!

Anonymous

Now play some dating sims on this. Simulated wood for your simulated girlfriend.

Lindsay Michelle

I know, right? These people have foresight (or were just recording their TV shows, either or :P). I love old commercials like, a lot. They have a ton on Youtube for sure. I also really like old bumpers for TV stations, too. And the Prevue Channel, even! That channel in particular is a major nostalgia trip for me, haha.

Anonymous

For awhile after than merger LG had the name Lucky Goldstar. I think that name ROCKS

Anonymous

Fallout and that TV seems like a match in time. Quite unique to sit down, and chill out with - quite an interesting take, and a unique use of old gear in this era :)

Anonymous

I bought something like that the other day, but I couldn't get the door open to cook the food.

Runefox

Ahh, I love these frankencable setups. I used to do stuff like this all the time as a kid. Well I mean not like THIS, obviously. But man, I used to be addicted to just browsing the dollar stores and Radio Shack to find whatever I could that would let me plug stuff into stuff and stuff and yeeeeees.

Anonymous

I'm gonna do this at some point. My current setup outputs a split and HDCP-stripped HDMI signal, so all I need is the B&W TV.

LazyGameReviews

I miss Radio Shacks and stores like that. The possibilities of cobbling something together were endelss

Anonymous

I certainly will! I'm going to a Salvation Army next week that is usually great for CRTs and 90s Apple Computers, especially the "portable" B&W CRTs.

Anonymous

I really loved this video, and I'm not sure why. I think its because mum used to bring home all sorts of crappy broken black and white TV's when I was a kid. If I could fix it, I was allowed it in my room! I worked up to a nice sony trinitron colour that way.