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LGR Oddware - Essential Reality P5 Glove (Patreon)

Published:
2019-10-22 01:25:55
Edited:
2019-10-22 22:25:10
Imported:
2021-03

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So this is... a thing! An enjoyably odd thing indeed.

Can't say I'd ever seen this before it was given to me at VCFMW last month. The P5 is a "3D virtual controller" that works a lot like a mouse with a few extra inputs. Bending your fingers clicks the mouse buttons, moving your hand moves the cursor, and certain games even support rotation and movement along the Z-axis!

...kind of. In theory. Haha. This is Oddware after all and this isn't very well-known for a reason. Still, quite the entertaining device nonetheless!

Enjoy the early viewing of this one. Got a few bits of random footage and music to insert in the next edit, but yeah. Will update this post once it's done as usual. EDIT: Video is complete! Tweaked a few visuals, added more music and video footage, dropped in the section where I peel off the protective plastic.

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LGR Oddware - Essential Reality P5 Glove

Comments

Anonymous

This actually looks like it would be really cool if it was developed with today's tech. I can see this kind of thing being part of the Ready Player One universe

Joseph Coco

I'll watch the video later, but in response to @Garoninja, I imagine Myo Armband tech is the modern version of this. It also isn't well known, especially now that it's discontinued. I tried to use them for gaming, but was never able to get them to work the way I wanted. We use them in the lab for medical research.

Anonymous

You were a lot more patient with that than I would have been. Great video.

Anonymous

Seems like your arm would get tired awfully quick, not behing able to rest your wrist on the table and having it constantly suspended in air like a zed. Not to mention the general weirdness, haha.

Akfamilyhome

I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.

PiraTed

Clint hold still! There's a facehugger on your hand.

LazyGameReviews
>>28135994

Definitely, my shoulder was a bit sore the morning after filming. And my knuckles are still worn down from the rubber, ha.

moosemaimer

The hobbyist scene around this reminds me of a doc that popped up on Vimeo a while back... one of the lead animators for Robot Chicken built a set of camera controls into a Power Glove so they would always be on his wrist while he was working on the set.

Jim Leonard

VCFMW REPRESENT I'll definitely watch this on the train ride tomorrow. I'm fascinated by these kinds of things: The virtual reality craze of the 1990s that didn't come to fruition. I just picked up a Digital Design "Total Control II" virtual joystick (no base, you hold it in mid air) and I'm curious if it's functional at all for DOS games that use analog sticks.

Anonymous

I wonder if you could use the P5 Glove and the Demon Destroyer Gunn at the same time.

Anonymous

I like that someone @ Free Geek TC - gave that to you - I frequent Free Geek Twin cities often -- love Minneapolis -- love MN! -- Love your videos!!! keep it up Clint!

LazyGameReviews
>>28137292

I'd be curious to hear how that goes! Never had the chance to use one of those but it looks wonderfully odd indeed.

LazyGameReviews
>>28137363

Ha! Totally could. I gotta do an Oddware Special sometime, just to see how many pieces of weird hardware I can get going on one PC.

LazyGameReviews
>>28137645

It looks like a great place, hope to be able to visit there myself sometime! And thanks, happy to hear it👍

Anonymous

I always wonder what passes through the head of the people who release this sort of device. Do they think having an idea is good enough and things will just work out by themselves? Do they genuinely think their products are good or are they just trying to get a quick buck off people's hopes? Do they even test these things before releasing them? And if they do, are their tests succesful (for whatever reason: more controlled environment, more powerful hardware, more specific testing) or they fail but they still release in order to at least earn back some of their spent budget? Are they entirely out of touch with their customer base and believe people will actually enjoy these barely-functional devices, even if they themselves don't?

Anonymous

The new Oculus Quest update is going to do direct hand tracking, with no controller - so it will work like the Kinect. The regular Quest controllers work so well I don't really know how much of a positive the update is going to be, but people who tested it said it worked really well. But then again that's what we always hear.

Anonymous

My apologies! Got too excited by a new oddware and didn't read a word

LazyGameReviews
>>28139250

I'm quite looking forward to trying that out! I don't hold out much hope for it being super feasible for a lot of games, but I imagine it'll be fun with some specially made experiences.

Anonymous

How very Minority Report :p

Gabi Mismash

Hell yeah this is the kinda oddware I live for.

Anonymous

The Claw. The Claw!

Anonymous

I would love to play csgo with that thing!

Anonymous

What, no money shot of taking off the protective film on the tower??

LazyGameReviews
>>28144976

You really, really don't though, haha. Unless you want your team to hate you. Then it's ideal!

Anonymous

Could there be some sort of IR interference, from all the lamps maybe, that's messing with the tracking?

LazyGameReviews
>>28141645

Now to catch some criminals before they're criminals! If I can only just -- *fumbles around with mouse cursor for hours*

LazyGameReviews
>>28150682

Good question! Though I have my doubts. I had problems in the past when I used CFLs, but all of my lights are LEDs now and they don't interfere with the other infrared devices I have. Even my PCjr's wonky infrared keyboards function under the same lighting! I also tried it without any of lights on at all, just the glow of the CRT, and results felt about the same. Seems my experience is echoed by old user reviews I've read, too.

LazyGameReviews
>>28138738

Truly a question for the ages with this kind of device. Sometimes when I'm making these videos, I have to set aside extra time just to make sure I'm not doing something terribly wrong. "Surely the company did their due diligence to make sure it wasn't THIS weird to use," I think. I test and re-test and re-configure, but it's still iffy at best. What a strange experience. More often than not, it's just a wonky product that gets released. I have no doubt the engineers and testers knew the thing had issues, but after a certain point they simply have to push it out the door and cut their losses. Guess there's a good reason things like the P5 never took off, were quickly discontinued, and are now Oddware :)

Anonymous

They couldn't even be arsed to use the same font for the P5 menu item in the games, haha.

Anonymous

"On the other hand you've got to hand it to them, puns are hands down one of the handiest ways to get a grip on product marketing without using underhanded business practices so I give it two thumbs up". This made me totally lose it and laugh out loud. well thought out, my compliments to you, kind sir.

Anonymous

The company that created the glove, Nytric, is apparently still really proud of it. "This is a product that, even today, has never been supplanted by anything as capable for the cost.". lol https://www.nytric.com/essential-reality/

Anonymous

It constantly thought you were rolling in the tank game because you were meant to have your hand the other way, as if you were holding a handgun? Maybe? Nevermind, finished the video, ignore :)

LazyGameReviews
>>28166858

That is the "centered" position, yes! But eh, yeah, that particular game has a variety of issues to say the least :D

LazyGameReviews
>>28160700

Ha! Well, I mean, at least they're sticking by what they've done. I've seen some companies try to bury things like this.

LazyGameReviews
>>28143956

Toy Story reference aside, I actually do have another potential Oddware controller called "The Claw." I will have to bring out the alien toys for that one.

LazyGameReviews
>>28160180

It was quite fun to spend a good twenty minutes coming up with all the hand-related puns I could think of. Kept coming up with them hand over fist, but I whittled the larger list down to a handful! Heh.

Elizabeth Sullivan-Burton

I feel like there are a couple of really big design flaws at the concept level here. First, even just holding your hand up for a protracted length of time is going to tire you out, and start making your shoulder ache. Compared to a mouse or trackball where your hand is resting on the desk and just moving it around, this seems like a much more tiring way of controlling your computer. And if it's supposed to be for gamers, who may have play sessions hours long? I just don't see that working. But second, and more to the point--it seems that it doesn't want you too close. Computers aren't really designed to be operated from that kind of distance. Like, I feel like trying to select icons or type would give you eyestrain really fast. It's an enjoyably odd concept but I feel like they got hung up on the 'cool' factor and didn't stop to think about how it might be used.

Terry Lee

Your middle finger open doors lol

Anonymous

I can’t control anything, Sir 😂

Anonymous

Oh man, I had one of those. Got it when they were cheap and played some kinda god simulator with it. I think I remember not even being able to get out of that room in Hitman. Ended up gutting it for the resistive strips in the fingers...

Anonymous

Ok I know I think this almost every time you do an oddware ep (especially the gaming stuff), but really... did they even test this thing? They do seem to use Windows 98 in the demo vid you showed but XP support should have been available given the release year. Man, we've come a long way.

Anonymous

What would happen if you used the P5 and those Sony VR glasses you did a video in awhile back at the same time? Would the world implode?

Anonymous

This is for people who liked Jurassic Park: Trespasser a little too much.

Anonymous

Believe it or not, I used one of these professionally. Around '05 I worked for a VR company making industrial training simulators. In our testing lab we had really nice data-gloves and a really nice motion-tracking system. But we only had one testing lab, and I was the most jr programmer, so if anyone else was testing, I had to test at my desk using a P5. I was making a simulator for navy aircraft mechanics. Imagine trying to use a wrench to undo a bolt on a jet engine and not being able to tell if my code was buggy, or if my glove just wasn't working. The finger-sensors themselves were pretty good (for the time) but the motion-tracking was god-awful, and thanks to a bad design decision, if the base unit lost sight of the glove, it would stop updating the finger-sensors! So even the parts of the glove that worked were crippled by the horrible motion-tracking camera! This couldn't be fixed with drivers, but I've heard of people taking these things apart and sticking the tracking LEDs on a wall so they could point the base unit at that wall and at least get decent data from the finger sensors! When I quit the company eight years later, they let me keep my P5. Hooray.

Anonymous

How did you manage to not throw the damn thing across the room! Haha, looked so damn frustrating!