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Attack on Titan FINALE! (Watch-along) (Patreon)

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2023-11-06 10:14:59
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Hey everyone! We're glad we could finally get this up. The edited version will be up later on with a brand new cover as well. What did you guys think about the way AoT wrapped up? Mappa really went all out for this one!


AoT Finale REACTION 

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Chikᶠⁱˡa

As someone who got spoiled and was sort of surrounded with the "fandom war", the anime adaptation has made me appreciate the ending more than feeling disappointed by it back when I got spoiled. I agree with Ange, I think the ending could be enhanced if we get couple more expositions with some characters and better executions in some scenes so that this ending can "make more sense" for lack of better words in terms of showing what Isayama wanted to say thru this story...so that the community won't be so divided

Decaf

King Fritz always reminds me of Pretzel 🥨.

MADHOUSE

Also wanted to say that we've officially finished the first anime that you guys started on your channel! I kind of said this in your 150K subs post, but it's crazy how many shows you've seen since the start of your anime journey. I know AOT will never be topped as that first anime for you guys, but judging by your anime tier list, it's good to see you guys enjoying many other animes (even more than AOT). There are a few other shows out there with amazing anti-hero writing, so I hope we can get you guys to watch them someday.

Astor Lefflinker

Finally finished the whole video including the discussion. Glad that Ange pointed out that it was quite weird for Ymir to keep being devoted to King Fritz lol. I mentioned it in my previous comment that I can't get over that. What, does she just have a thing for bad boys? I know that a lot of women like bad boys and I understand that, but King Fritz goes far beyond a bad boy. He cut off her tongue, and while he had children with her, he had no feelings for her whatsoever as he fed her body to their children. That's some messed up sick shit and now just has me viewing Ymir as a karen lol I don't quite agree regarding the memories with Armin, though. I think Eren just felt that finally he was in a safe space to be really vulnerable at that moment as he can also erase Armin's memory, so he just let his true feelings out, but even though that was his true feelings, he was still going to continue with what he's started. I don't think it was out of character, but even if it is, I think characters being out of character is not that big of a deal, because also us real people do things that are out of our characters. That's why I think that writing-wise, I've always found it forgivable when characters do out of character stuff.

Dune

First off loved the discussion at the end. Now in regards to ymir loving king fritz. She accepted her fate and also wanted to feel needed. Fritz, regardless of how twisted he was, needed ymir and her power and she felt that he would never throw her away so for me personally it's not too out there. Regarding Eren's sudden outburst of emotion i agree with you ange. Even though he didn't want to go down this path he had the conviction to continue down it. It definitely would've hit harder if all we saw from him was that final moment of him seeing mikasa smile and accepting that her and his friends will live long lives of peace. We all know how eren felt about mikasa. He never fully showed it but he didn't have to. I sometimes prefer when things are implied instead of said. Lastly I think eren becoming a colossus was due in part to his connectiion with ymir. Maybe he had the ability to turn into any titan variant he wanted but chose a colossal because he knew he would have to take on armin and any other form would be too weak. Also dina killing his mom is what leads him onto the path of wanting to kill titans. WIthout that motivation the story would be drastically different. We would be looking at a completely different outcome were his mom still alive. All in all though this was a beautiful ending to a sad story.

Tempered Glasses

Interestingly, the fact that this was the 100th video in your AoT reaction playlist may have greater significance in a few months.

Anonymous

I want to share some thoughts about the weird “love” between Ymir and King Fritz, why Armin shares the guilt with Eren and why Eren sent the smiling titan to eat his mom. Before that, I would like to state that English is not my native language. Please forgive me if anything is unclear. Talk about the weird “love” between Ymir and King Fritz. First of all, whether Ymir is in love with King Fritz or not, it seems abrupt for Ymir to develop positive feelings towards him. In addition, we need to find out if Ymir, who grew up in tragedy and was never treated well, truly knows what "love" is. It is necessary to place the values in the context of the times they lived in - in a time when killing and pillaging were normal, it made sense to victim blaming. The losers should blame their weakness, not hate the winner. The oppressed, who have no dignity at all, accept the oppression as a matter of course, and have no courage to hate and resist the oppressor; but if the oppressor gives them a little favor, they will be grateful for it. Following the logic, it would make sense that Ymir doesn't want to use the titan power to fight back against King Fritz, but instead she thanks him for not killing her. (I know this sounds bs, I apologize if anyone feels offended.) Let's explore exactly how Ymir feels about King Fritz. Both Zeke and Eren mention that no matter how powerful Ymir is, she never wants to or can't get away from King Fritz. Zeke can't understand this, while Eren senses that this could be love. Both Ymir and Mikasa have lost the meaning of life, and both have gained the meaning of new life from another person. Both Ymir and Mikasa are way more powerful than that person, but they are always willing to be dominated by that person, whether by force or by choice. In this life meaning-giving relationship, Mikasa develops love and be loved; Ymir develops endless confusion and pain. Ymir can't even know exactly how she feels about King Fritz. She can only understand that it might be love by peeking at Mikasa, who has a similar experience to hers. That's why when Eren contacts Ymir, it gives him the impression that Ymir is in love with King Fritz. This ultimately caused confusion among many audiences (including myself). Honestly, I can't quite believe that Isayama-san would make such a nonsense character's emotions. I'd rather believe that I'm the one who didn't understand what he was thinking. So I tried to justify it to make myself feel better lmao. Eren and Armin's imagination of the world beyond the wall would be one of total freedom with no other human beings or civilized societies. From Eren's speech to the refugee child, we can feel the disappointment that Eren's dream has been betrayed by reality. Armin seems to have accepted the truth very quickly and continues to face it with optimism.It's possible that he feels the same way as Eren, we just haven't been told. Eren admits himself an idiot. Satisfying his imagination of a free world is what drove him to massacre; protecting what he loved was a way of convincing himself that he had no choice. It is Armin who feeds Eren's imagination, and in the end it is only Eren who does the bad things that allow both of them to finally reach their childhood dream . Armin obviously thinks this is unfair, and it makes him feel indebted to Eren. That's why he chooses to share Eren's guilt. I don't know if Armin was telling the truth when he said he had thought about destroying the people outside the wall or if he was just trying to comfort Eren. Also, assuming that the people outside the wall didn't intend to exterminate the Eldian, Eren would have no reason to support himself in the massacre. I believe that Eren will be able to let go of his imagination and accept the reality like Armin. Finally, let's talk about why Eren sends the Smiling Titan to eat his mom. In the Path, Eren uses his ability to tamper with future memories to peek at things that didn't happen. However, by manipulating other people to do different things in the sandbox, many things remain the same. For example, Sasha will be shot, and her last words will be "meat" no matter what, and that's why Eren has that kind of ridiculous and angry feeling. So I'm guessing that Eren had let the Smiling Titan eat Bertolt and give Diana The Colossus Titan's power in the sandbox scenario. However, the outcome was no better than what we're seeing now. Besides, he told Armin “I’m sure none of them wanted to die, either”. I'm assuming that Eren has already let his comrades die in various future scenarios to try and find the best solution. Obviously, Eren didn't choose any of these scenarios in the end. After Eren's almost desperate attempts, he realized that the only way is the Smiling Titan to eat his mother. Letting himself develop an unshakable hatred, letting Grisha pass the Titan's power to him ...... Ultimately causing Mikasa to do what she did and ending the Titan power is probably the best solution. (Protecting he loves as much as possible, realizing his dream of a world beyond the wall, and ending the tragedy of the Titan Power) Since Mikasa's Ackerman bloodline would not be affected by The Founding Titan's power, Eren had no way of determining exactly what Mikasa would do in the sandbox. He can only modify his own behavior and the behavior of others to lead Mikasa to make the final choice. Well, so far my brain is about to be as messed up as Eren's is. If I'm wrong about the plot or plot mechanics, please let me know and I'd appreciate it. Lastly, my thoughts on AOT: Fxxk the titan power, fxxk the Ymir's curse, I just want to see Eren and Mikasa have a happy life together. Every time I saw Mikasa crying, I cried. p.s. Watching Carlie and Ange enjoy shows that I have enjoyed is so satisfying. Thank you!!

Ricsson

jesus christ you are NERDY as fuck here wtf , you should start you own anime :D

Russell Gambardella

Loved the reaction and discussion, thanks for the incredible journey! One point I wanted to touch on was Ymir Fritz. While children can react in a variety of ways in the same environment due to their personality (ex: Falco and Gabi), it’s important to note she was a child when she was enslaved. While l can’t speak for everyone, I can definitely relate (to way less extremes of course) to feeling like I had to act a certain way or be a pleaser toward authority in relation to others as a child. When we grow up, we (hopefully) realize we have a choice, albeit at a wide variety of ages. It reminds me of the other Ymir (the one in the Scouts) when she starts her flashback story with, “that was the first time I lied to myself, telling myself I never had a choice.” In retrospect, realizing you have a choice once you’ve learned is obvious. However, if some behavior or idea is simply all you know, there’s not much you can do about it until you learn from more experience. Add on top of this the fact that king Fritz destroyed all of Ymir’s connections (her family, village, and literal ability to verbally communicate with others). Wanting to feel needed by someone, the only way she could do that, in her mind, was to properly perform her role/relationship as a slave. And in that role, her exposure to learning experiences are little to none. Her experience of observing Mikasa is what allowed her to learn. While it’s not the exact same situation, I think this can make sense in a much simpler way if we look at some other characters and what made them have moments of epiphany. Historia - despite desperately wanting a connection to her father, it was her experiences with Ymir (‘live for yourself/live a life you are proud of’) that allowed her to break free from her perceived duty of the Reiss family, just in time to slap the syringe away and not eat Eren. Also, her terrible “relationship,” or complete lack of, with her mother, was just simply, “life as she knew it” and she didn’t realize how alone she was until she read books. Reiner- wanted a connection to his mother and to live with his father, he thought being a warrior (essentially a slave to Marley) was the only means to achieve that. Similar to Gabi, he was Marley brainwashed until he met Eren and saw himself in Eren, realizing everyone is just human. Gabi - even more indoctrinated than Reiner and it took an incredibly traumatic sequence of events for her to finally have the same epiphany as Reiner. Ymir (Scouts) - deciding to live for herself and realizing she always had a choice only after luckily stumbling upon a second chance at life after eating Marcel. Note most of these characters realize these simple things when they are significantly older than Ymir Fritz was when she was enslaved. To conclude with a real life example, I’m sure both of you have met a person, even an adult, who has stayed in a toxic relationship of some kind. It’s obvious to you what you’re looking at, but not necessarily to them. And I’m sure they also do not have Stockholm syndrome and are just a regular person, with simple, human, issues. Anyway, I hope that sheds some light onto understanding Ymir Fritz. Much love ❤️, glad to have watched this masterpiece of a story with you both!

who O

love the reaction