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Talking Simpsons - Treehouse of Horror XIV With Will Sloan (Patreon)

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Season 15 begins with a big Halloween special, and we're joined by Will Sloan, Jerry Lewis expert and cohost of podcasts The Important Cinema Club and Michael And Us! After we chat about how this debuted in November, we chat through one segment that unintentionally copies Family Guy, a story of Frink/Hank Azaria meeting their comedy patriarch, and another Twilight Zone parody. You'll also learn a lot about Oscar De La Hoya and comic books in this week's podcast!

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Jeremy Hawkins

I think this is the first time you've had Will on when I was a patreon subscriber and I just wanted to say, it would be awesome if you could get Justin Decloux on and have the complete Will Sloan podcast cohost suite on this podcast once and for all. A true simpsons fan if there ever was one.

Langdon Alger

Family guy has used that same exact run like the wind joke

Andrew Bouvier

Hey guys, regarding if no one was dying while Death was being Brad Pitt in "Meet Joe Black," Death actually has a brief conversation with Anthony Hopkins character about it. He mentions something to the effect that his power to "reap souls" is not stopped while he's in human form, and his ability to do his job while pretending to be human is the equivalent of a human daydreaming while shaving or driving a car.

AllTheTrophies

Glad someone else already brought it up, but to elaborate it is funny that there’s a conversation in the podcast about Simpsons vs Family Guy, stealing from one another, when the “Run like the wind” mispronunciation gag was one of the bigger controversies around when it happened. I’m sure it’s faded since then, but I remember early social media posts lambasting the Family Guy episode “Welcome Back Carter” for featuring Lois’s father making the exact same joke as Marge nearly 7 years later. Plenty of ideas can be chalked up to lateral thinking (even when separated by nearly a decade of joke writing), but I think the fact that the punchline was so similar, even though the setup wasn’t, is what really riled people up.

The Important Cinema Club

The wildest thing about the pet monkey ads in the back of comic books is that if you ordered one of the monkeys, you'd horrifyingly get one: "A report from that time stated that more than 173,000 squirrel monkeys were imported into the USA from South America between 1968 and 1972." That quote is from a CBC article from 2018: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/undertheinfluence/mail-order-monkeys-other-crazy-comic-book-ads-1.4536179 And NPR did an episode on it in 2018 as well: https://www.npr.org/2014/04/25/306868280/monkey-madness

Kat Heagberg

Okay, you all made Jerry Lewis sound fascinating and now I want to check out his work (or at least more podcasts ABOUT his work). My parents saw “Damn Yankees” on tour in the 90s and after that my mom was very anti-Jerry Lewis because I guess he did standup as an opener (weird for a musical I realize) and according to her it was sexist and mean, which doesn’t sound off m-brand after listening to this, but at the same time, we had a family friend my age with muscular dystrophy (she even got to be on the telethons!) and even though I don’t think we ever watched a single one, my parents always spoke about how great his work was in that regard, even post-Damn Yankees. In short, I guess my perception had been “his comedy was cringe but his charitable work was admirable” so I never looked further, but you all totally piqued my interest.

Joe Hodgson

When this episode was premiered, I was very much one of those early twenties-something males who had felt Family Guy was unjustly cancelled while The Simpsons was allowed to get worse and worse. I was aghast that The Simpsons would rip-off a Family Guy bit with the Death sequence and probably shared that sentiment with far too many people. It does seem implausible that The Simpsons was unaware of that episode and I am in agreement with Henry (I think it was) who speculated that when the episode was written everyone assumed Family Guy was dead and gone forever and no one would care. And now I'm a 40-something who thinks Family Guy probably should stayed gone, but hey, Seth McFarlane seems like a decent guy for a celebrity so I suppose it's good that he and others associated with the show kept getting work.

Steve
>>148483942

On the Gilbert Gottfried podcast they did address these ads in one or two episodes, and like Henry worried, monkeys would occasionally arrive already dead

Joshua Marchant
>>148485385

I love listening to people wax rhapsodic about artists I don't really 'get'. Will is a remorseless Jerry Lewis fan and I can't get enough of him explaining his love for that talented weirdo.

Rob MacBride

When this episode aired I remember people everywhere saying it was trash. The noticeable dip in quality was one of the earliest times people bemoaned the decline of the Simpsons as the cultural touchstone it had been prior. I think this was mostly in response to the Reaper short. There's a big increase in reverb going from the Frink VO to the Lewis VO, which suggests he prob forced caveats like 'I refuse to go anywhere, you have to come to my house to record my dialogue'. King of Comedy never really felt like a 'Jerry Lewis Film' to me, WOW! to the antisemitic DeNiro filmmaking psycho headgames! 🤯 My first Lewis film was Nutty Prof when I was very young, it was in a double bill with this other film where he's like the super in an apartment building where every resident is a smokin hot 1960's bombshell and they all rely on him.. 🤔 hmm *checks Letterboxd* so it's The Ladies Man (1961). I've also watched parts of Slapstick.. but have never been able to sit through it in one go..

Carlos Hernandez

A bit of Bartman trivia related to the 2003 World Series - you may remember a Steve Bartman supposedly costing the Chicago Cubs a place in that World Series by reaching for a foul ball in Game 6 of National League Championship that lead to one of the greatest implosions in sports history. I can clearly remember being 13, glued to my tv in the northern suburbs of Chicago, hoping the Cubs would finally break their 58 year drought with a team lead by Sammy Sosa and other future hall of famers. But boy did things get ugly! You could feel the rage from the fans at Wrigley Field radiating through the screen as the game devolved and the Cubs blew their 8th inning, 3 to nothing lead with only 5 outs left. Bartman eventually had to be escorted out of the ballpark for his safety. Later, TV crews were outside his home for days, trying to get a glimpse of the unsuspecting and very demure social pariah. Bartman had to go into hiding for years, but surprisingly never left town. There’s a happy ending though, as Bartman was awarded an honorary Championship ring when the Cubs cast off the Billy Goat’s curse after 108 years and won it all in 2016. Definitely check out the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary “Catching Hell” if you want to go super deep on that infamous single inning of baseball and the fallout that ensued.

Drew Mackie

I’ve gotten so much from Bob and Henry, but I would not have expected that they’d help me to see what Jerry Lewis’s dick looks like

Tyler M.
>>148456813

Backing this thought. Justin is great and it admittedly took me way too long to discover the Important Cinema Club despite being a Michael and Us fan.

Bob Mackey
>>148608440

We provide information about celebrity penises as an added bonus

Sam Harrison

After listening to this I told my therapist how long ago Arrested Development premiered and she seemed as disturbed as I was..

PurpleComet

I thought you guys might cover the first episode of Arrested Development similar to how you covered Malcolm in the Middle. Its rapid fire jokes, smart writing, and wacky characters feel very Simpson-esque IMO. The Cleveland Show also mocked Halle Berry's Oscar speech, making it sound like she threw a tantrum or something. The reaction to her speech reeks of the 90s/2000s "I don't see color"-type racial dialogue. Halle was supposed to thank the academy and people who worked on the movie then get off the stage, by acknowledging the historical significance of the moment and naming other black women who were denied opportunities she was "making it about race". But they can't say that, so they paint her like a diva who made a scene.

Thad Komorowski

I watched the first two segments with my other half last night because of this podcast, and I’ve got to say it was painful. I didn’t even remember Jerry Lewis did a voice because I sat through it stonefaced in the original airing. I think you guys isolating those few good lines made it seem better than it was. Will and I shared some delightful messages when those nude Dean and Jerry photos went up for auction. These were actually published at the time in 1953, cropped, as part of a magazine feature on the duo’s wacky doings at the gym. The uncropped photos were supposedly from the estate of a chauffeur of Jerry’s, a lot of us guess he was blackmailing him along with the mob. Will and I were really excited that in the same lot were alleged nude explicit photos of Betty Hutton and her lovers but it turned out it was just a rando lookalike gal with Sinatra’s hired goons. And… my beloved fiancee gifted me with one of those custom temperature mugs that when filled with hot liquid reveals a closeup of Jerry Lewis’ bare ass.

Joe Hodgson
>>148553725

I always felt bad for that guy. Moises Alou was a terrible outfielder and probably doesn't even make that catch, but he acted like Bartman took it away from him which definitely contributed to all of the vitriol thrown his way. That was a crazy time to be a baseball fan. We were so close to the dream World Series matchup of Cubs vs Red Sox, but both the Cubs and Red Sox pissed it all away in incredible fashion.

Dan Vincent
>>148553725

Although the Red Sox tragically lost in 2003, it only made 2004 all the sweeter.

brian bonelli

A surprising number of Twilight Zone episodes revolve around that stupid gimmick of making actors stand still for prolonged periods of time. Off the top of my head I can think of two others - "Still Valley" (where a Confederate soldier is morally conflicted about using the power of Satan to freeze the Union army), and "Elegy" (where astronauts land on a planet where everyone's frozen in place). These episodes stink but I guess it's kinda fun to watch the extras try their best not to move or blink during the longer shots.