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What happens in Kiev, stays in Kiev? (Patreon)

Published:
2020-09-16 18:13:09
Imported:
2023-06

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In Ukraine, Kiev - the third largest city in the Soviet Union - is under German attack on multiple fronts. Over half a million Soviet soldiers in the area are at risk of being trapped, but new commander Semyon Timoshenko says he can hold the city...


Also this week:

Up north, the Siege of Leningrad continues.

In Yugoslavia, partisan leaders secretly set up an important meeting.

New Nazi atrocities take place, this time hitting hard against the Estonian Jews in the Vilnius Ghetto.

The war in China is intensifying, as Japanese forces make a move to wear down resistance.

And the Allies are dissatisfied with Iran, so they decide to take action.


As you can see, a lot is going on in World War Two right now, and we’re grateful for your continued company and support along this world-altering journey through time.
We want to say Thank You, but also Buckle Up - because things aren’t going to slow down this fall...

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Another week, another half million for the Germans - WW2 - 108 - September 19, 1941

Kiev falls to the Germans, yielding hundreds of thousands of prisoners as whole armies are surrounded, but behind the lines all over German-occupied territories, partisan movements are gaining steam. Meanwhile, in China, Japan launches another campaign against Changsha. Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory Or join The TimeGhost Army directly at: https://timeghost.tv Check out our TimeGhost History YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/timeghost?sub_confirmation=1 Follow WW2 day by day on Instagram @ww2_day_by_day -https://www.instagram.com/ww2_day_by_day/ Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimeGhostHistory/ Between 2 Wars: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG Source list: http://bit.ly/WW2sources Written and Hosted by: Indy Neidell Director: Astrid Deinhard Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson, Bodo Rittenauer Creative Producer: Joram Appel Post-Production Director: Wieke Kapteijns Research by: Indy Neidell Edited by: Monika Worona Sound design: Marek Kamiński Map animations: Eastory (https://www.youtube.com/c/eastory) Colorizations by: - Norman Stewart - https://oldtimesincolor.blogspot.com/ - Carlos Ortega Pereira, BlauColorizations, https://www.instagram.com/blaucolorizations/ - Olga Shirnina, a.k.a. Klimbim - https://klimbim2014.wordpress.com/ - Julius Jääskeläinen - https://www.facebook.com/JJcolorization/ - Jaris Almazani (Artistic Man), https://instagram.com/artistic.man?igshid=k4l2ushhbwk5 - Daniel Weiss Sources: - Ra Boe / Wikipedia / Lizenz: Creative Commons CC-by-sa-3.0 de - Mil. ru - Narodowe Archiwum Cyfrowe - Estonica Archive by Screenocean/Reuters https://www.screenocean.com. A TimeGhost chronological documentary produced by OnLion Entertainment GmbH.

Comments

Anonymous

Will there ever be a series similar to W.A.H. that will specifically cover partisan warfare? Or will that be covered in WAH as a subcategory.

Anonymous

The name of the city is MiRgorod, not MiTgorod (2:00 approximately)

Anonymous

1:30 It looks like it's 21 surrounded and parts of 38, not other way around as you say 4:44 Zhukov was commander of Leningrad Military District, not Kiev Military District

Gregory

not on timeghost.tv

Minion

An current Australian conservative politician is the nephew of Otto Abetz. You can imagine his nicknames. And it also explains why a lot of Antipodeans will be familiar with Otto's surname.

Anonymous

In your graphics you listed commander of Kiev as commander of Leningrad and commander of Leningrad as commander of Kiev.

Anonymous

Time to play "spot the anachronism." The clue is: "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought."

Anonymous

Ok, it's nice that the second battle of Changsha is getting a mention... but you should mention that the Japanese tried this in 1939 (episode 006) and Japan lost. Also, you should really do a special on the varying states of the Chinese forces. You have the crack divisions like the 200th, the New 38th or the 88th, while other divisions are based on local commands which were of varying quality.

Anonymous

The Japanese are attacking with 4 divisions and some auxiliaries, but it isn't actually 4 vs. 60 in actual numbers. Reading the raw divisions this coming battle, it seems like the Chinese have 15 to 1 advantage.... but that wasn't the case. The Chinese actually only have about 2.5 times more troops than the Japanese This is because Chinese divisions were generally only about 5,000-6,000 people (the best ones had 10,000) while a Japanese division was 20,000-24,000 people. So the "60 Chinese divisions“ isn't as big as it sounds. This is one of those things that needs to be kept in mind otherwise the number disparity gets exaggerated. The Chinese themselves had a rule of thumb... to defend successfully, they needed to outnumber the Japanese 3 to 1, while to attack successfully, they needed to outnumber the Japanese 5 to 1. Later on, Americans and Brits would ascribe this rule to Chinese cowardice and not, you know, 4 years of actual experience and then watch in surprise as as the Japanese cut through Allied forces like butter in early 1942.

JM

Both Americans AND Chinese talk a lot about how it was the Americans who defeated the Japanese in WWII, but I wonder how America would have fare if we ALSO had to face the 3 million Japanese who were tied down in China?

Anonymous
>>44203656

Japan never had 3 million in China. They had between 600,000 and 1.1 million in China depending on the time. There were a few hundred thousand more puppet Chinese forces but they were pretty trash. Though the general sentiment is right, I read somewhere though that 70% of Japan's military casualties happened in China. It's why I want them to put more focus on it during the regular episodes.

Anonymous
>>44185626

The updated episodes, War Against Humanity and the special episodes aren't there either.

Anonymous
>>44185626

I found that too, I don't understand how they run the site!

Anonymous
>>44195171

The size of their divisions probably had a lot to do with the level of expertise available to the Chinese forces too, to say nothing of the availability of weapons and everything else that soldiers need. Running a division is like running a small town, and getting a good, well trained, and efficient staff together literally out of thin air is no joke. Good to see the Chinese get some credit here ! IIRC the Red Army will do something very like this in the early years of the war while they train up brigade and divisional staffs to be able to do the job at Corps and Army.

Anonymous

So when are we going to see a special on Sidor Kovpak's 1st Ukrainian Partizan Division?

Anonymous

The creation of the Kiev pocket was a unmitigated military disaster which highlights Stalins arrogance and his inability to care for the lives of his soldiers.