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sarCC

"Fick-ner"!

Anonymous

In the script Eady is a 30 something Chinese immigrant with no family who's a successful graphic artist and also an insomniac, she manages the bookstore at night to have something to do. It plays better and has more emotional weight because she and Neil are closer to equals.

Daniel Popp

Fun Fact: The famous diner scene is based on a true story. A county sheriff was dealing with a string of bank robberies in his jurisdiction, and while he didn't have any evidence, he knew who it was leading the heists. He found the lead heist guy in a diner and had a conversation with him. Tried to convince him to stop before more people got hurt. Lead guy made it clear he wasn't going to stop, sheriff finally gunned him down at the next bank heist.

FranciscoGios

Guys this movie inspired the robbery in Hollywood, California back in 1997; go type in ‘looking back at the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout’ and see what I’m talking about.

Chase Lonnergan

Lol. George almost said my name right this time. Love it.

redddfer44

Recommendation for Pacino: "Dog Day Afternoon". Just a stupidly good movie with John "Fredo Corleone" Cazale. I didn't love the film as much on this rewatch as I used to (I had a hard time following both the plot and the character motivations and I was too focused on feeling regret of not having made a move towards a girl who looked like Ashley Judd but prettier), but the three hours just flew by. Watching two of my favorite actors being good at their jobs might have something to do with. I'm really hoping that the "Scarface" thing at the end implies something about your future reactions...

Gary Fixler

"Fik-ner" :) I think you're just trolling us now, though, which I support. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs83K_u194

Anonymous

A couple talking points, from a longtime Heat Enjoyer: As others have noted, the Bank Firefight's incredible sound is allegedly the original audio from the filming. Traditionally, a shootout like that would have its audio replaced by studio recordings of the guns to make it sound "cleaner", but after Michael Mann heard the edited version, he threw it out, citing how terrifying it was to actually *be there* and hear the shots echo off of the canyon-like streets of Los Angeles. Additionally, Michael Mann hired professionals to train the actors to do their own weapons manipulation for the film, and more specifically, had the actors playing LAPD trained by former SWAT, while Neil's Crew was trained by former SAS (British Special Forces, known for their hyperaggressive tactics). As noted by others, the scene is shown to US Marine recruits as an example for how to retreat under fire, as well as how to properly perform an emergency reload (when Val Kilmer drops behind the car, quickly changes magazines, and immediately gets back up to continue shooting. It's meant as sort of an "If this fucking prettyboy actor can do it right, you fuckers better be able to do it better" type deal.) I find it interesting to hear George call Detective Hannah "Lawful Good". As I read it, his arc in the film is about re-learning the "Good" part of that equation. Throughout the film, we see him make careless mistakes that quite literally cost lives. Once Vincent gets the tip on the Bank Heist, he hastily sets up roadblocks and assembles a team of the only Beat Cops he could get on such short notice, despite knowing that they're probably underequipped to deal with such dangerous individuals and should have approached with much more caution, waiting to force an engagement until SWAT arrived (tailing them while they have the money in hand, etc). During the shootout, he continues to chase Neil through a crowd of bystanders, unwittingly putting them in more danger. He then proceeds to *shove them out of his way* to get a better shot at Neil. He doesn't care that they're getting shot, he just wants to catch his prey. He's only in it for the Hunt, at least until Lauren's suicide attempt reminds him of his human side. Only then is he worthy of Catching Neil. Speaking of which, Neil's motto is "never become attached to anything you can't leave behind in 30 seconds flat, when you feel the Heat coming around the corner." When Neil exits the hotel, he hesitates, getting an inkling that Hannah is close (a moment which, funnily enough, is highlighted by a firetruck passing across the shot), for exactly 42 seconds, before finally stepping away from Eady and turning to run away. Twelve seconds too long, and that costs him his life. I also want to defend Justine for a moment. Obviously, what she did was abhorrent, but from her perspective, she was trying to force Vincent to do something other than shut her down with dismissive responses. Every time she tries to approach the subject of their relationship with him in a healthy way, he's either clearly not listening ("I made dinner over four hours ago."/"...I'm sorry that the chicken got... Overcooked...") or just doesn't care that she's worried about him. Vincent does nothing to try to help this situation, and instead chooses to double down on the things he knows will ruin it (like having a reckless coffee date with his prime suspect instead of just doing the dishes), because he doesn't care. He's chasing the thrill of the Hunt, that's what gets him going, and he'll follow that until he gets that sweet release when he finally catches the "bad guy". In some ways, Neil is a better person than Vincent ever was, at least until he chooses to chase Waingro down instead of taking his Exit. Also, Vincent's outbursts and general demeanor are a result of a cut storyline involving his struggle with a cocaine problem. The storyline was cut, but Pachino kept the mannerisms. Sorry for the longwinded response. Heat is my favorite live action movie, because of all the nuance in the writing. It does everything it sets out to do at least competently, with spectacular action, superb writing, and great cinematography. Thank you for being the first of my favorite reactor crews to watch it, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts in more detail in the recap.

Darin Foat

This is one of my favorite films, and I love that you reacted to it. In fact, I signed up just to watch the full reaction for this one. It's such a masterfully constructed film, and it's written so well. I feel that one of the biggest challenges for a writer is to have two intelligent characters who are at odds with each other. The easiest way to make your protagonist seem smart is to make their opponent stupid. But virtually every character is at the top of their profession. Watching them circle around, size each other up and try to outsmart one another is so much fun.

ChickensAreRacist

This is worth a rewatch, y’all and the movie are so good. But it reminded me: George! You totally did a CK bit with the ‘bank charges you for not having enough money’. Haha. And yeah I know it’s a fact anyway, and possibly parallel thinking. I’m gonna enjoy assuming you saw CK’s bit on it ;)

dieselbeast

the third Godfather isn't shit, but that's the popular answer because it doesn't hold up to the first two but on its own its a decent film, it brings closure to the Corleone family story