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The Wall (Pink Floyd) | Extended Play Lounge (Episode 32) (Patreon)

Published:
2022-11-19 04:13:30
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2023-05

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Our next installment of Pink Floyd EPL episodes has arrived, and it's the biggest one yet. Actually, this might be my favorite of all the Pink Floyd EPLs, simply for the really intriguing narrative. I've heard the hits from this album, but all of the deep cuts were first time listens...and, it was a first time (through the album intentionally) for me. 

So, come along for the ride. I hope you enjoy as much as I did.

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The Wall (Pink Floyd) | Extended Play Lounge (Episode 32)

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Comments

George Davis-Stewart

For me, although I bought this album when it was released, PF had run out of steam. A great improvising band which came to be burdened by intellectual conceits and bombastic themes.

Rime Pendragon

I can't watch the video: Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here.

Steve Hartke

Queesryche ripped so much from this album for Operation Mindcrime… the operator and the phone calls, and the wrap around, ending into the beginning…

Wolverale12

One of my favorite albums and it was also one of the first albums that I bought on cd!

Duff

Too much to say in a text . An album that shaped my life at the wise old age of 15. Would love to talk live to you about it but one very important comment I will make is anecdotal. Growing up in the 70s I never had vinyl, I was a cassette guy, so my music could play wherever I walked or hung out . I had a dual deck boom box that had a car stereo style tape player that had auto flip of the tape. We were all trying figure out that last line but it's abrupt and low and without the internet or Roger's phone number it was a mystery. When my tape flipped back to side one on a listen, the sentence was complete. Is this where we came in ? Although I always thought it said This instead of is and was a person watching a movie or show and telling there companion they could leave as they saw this part already. I actually ran out of my house and around the neighborhood seeking out friends to tell them it's a loop like a movie reel. Was a mind blowing night as the news spread. Another similar event was standing around my friend's turntable as he damaged his needle and the album using his finger to play backwards the part of Empty Spaces with the secret message.

Gary Thobaben

One more thought! I've noticed you often use solo sections to discuss the underlying harmony or lyrics which had recently been sung. I think it would be *fascinating* to hear your analysis of what makes some solos really effective - could be melodies, could be rhythms, could be the notes they choose in context of the chord, etc. The Comfortably Numb solo for instance has a number of magical qualities that all collide and make something singular in all the world.

Jeff Norman

Does anyone else feel that "The Trial" is a little overcooked? As the denouement of the whole plot—the moment when Pink is forced to face up to his own shit—it ought to feel...I dunno, both traumatic and cathartic? But Roger seems to have had too much fun doing all his voices (he's brilliant at it, no doubt—almost Pythonesque here), and between that and the comic-opera orchestration, I find that it's almost as if Waters himself couldn't quite honestly face up to the implications of the material...and put up a bit of a wall himself here: "ooh! funny voices and goofy orchestration!" Certainly not a fatal flaw—so much is so effective on this album—but that's kinda my take on it (not sure it's ever quite felt that way to me before though...)

Anonymous

ATTENTION DOUG AND FELLOW DOUGFANS: Roger Waters has released a studio version of the updated "Comfortably Numb" with which he opened his most recent tour's shows, along with the visuals from his video display. If you weren't able to go to the shows, you need to see and hear this. Even if you, like me, did see it, you need to hear all the details. This makes an excellent coda to Doug's analysis of The Wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JLN581QWxc

Anonymous
>>96099003

Couldn't agree more. "The Trial" crosses the line from brilliantly wrought rock opera to hammy musical theatre. Don't get me wrong, at its best, musical theatre can be fun and emotionally compelling, but more often than not, it's campy and bloated. To extend Roger Waters some grace, maybe that's what he was going for: maybe Pink's mind was so twisted that only a baroque caricature of self-awareness could snap him out of his isolating annihilation. But as a piece of art to stand alongside the rest of The Wall, it sure seems like Roger could have done better.

Jeff Norman
>>96099003

Could be, yes. But I'll notice—and leave it up to the listener to decide whether this is intentional or not—that while Pink seems able to identify the sources of his trauma (lost father, crushing mother, cruel teachers, a wife who cheats on him (uh, after - it would appear from "Young Lust" - he does the same...)—he never quite finds any way to hold himself at all responsible for any of it. A less-parodic ending might have cut too close. Whether for Pink, or for Waters himself? Up to you.

Anonymous
>>96099003

As the Judge says, The Trial is Pink revealing his deepest fears. He's able to identify everything that terrifies him and the extent to which he blames them for his misery. I think The Trial is Pink coming to terms with the fact he himself is responsible for his own destiny. I don't think Waters hid fails to hold himself responsible. The Wall is Waters spilling his guts for all to see. It's an admission of guilt.

Geoff Budd

Brilliant- as always! Bugged me a bit that I thought you'd missed the "... we came in?" thing at the start but you were right not to mention it initially! It took years of listening to this album for me to pick up on it (and only, I think, when I first heard it through headphones!) BTW thought the kids playing outside your window was a brilliantly appropriate coincidence - sounded just like the playground on the album! Thanks.

Juan Ignacio Quesada

I've made myself time to watch this and, as expected, amazing. Doug, do yourself a favor and WATCH the movie!

MrWondrous David Beckwith

Finally able to listen to the whole work, and Lord, what genius...both the recording and the commentary. Looking forward to Echoes!

Jools Lee-Webb

you now need to have a critical listen to The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hing

Henry Weisenborn

I've been listening to The Wall for nearly 40 years and never knew about that little bit from the end to the beginning...WOW!