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When Communism Meets Capitalism | Sacred Symbols+, Episode 249

An interesting industry story has been quietly percolating for months, but it's not been widely discussed, particularly anywhere close to the mainstream: ZA/UM -- the studio behind 2019's smash-hit Disco Elysium (which came to PS4 and PS5 in 2021) -- is seemingly melting-down. And, at first blush, it's a complicated tale. In fact, it's complex at second and third blush, too, which is why I (Colin) invited Last Stand Media's legal analyst and regular collaborator, Rick Hoeg of Hoeg's Law, back to the show. Together, we delve into the undoing of this team, one founded in Estonia and run as a "collective" before being disrupted by money and success. Key founding members and creative forces of the original game have been shown the door, and they claim fraud that, if true, would be one of the gaming space's biggest economic crimes ever. But it's not clear that their claims are true at all; indeed, there's plenty of contrary evidence. One thing's for sure, though: It's pretty damn ironic that a game designed to be a cutting critique of capitalism would potentially undo the very people who created it, a piece of cosmic fate they themselves can't help but admire. So let's try to make sense of this sordid affair, in what we think is the most comprehensive deconstruction of ZA/UM's trials and tribulations available anywhere on the Internet.

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PRETENTIEUX

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. The quickest way to see someone's heart is to watch how they spend their money and what they do to get it. Money is just a number given to what is actually power. Communism is not exempt from this. No system lasts forever because all of them ultimately fall to the corruption of man. We're learning the difference between good and evil.

NotYurRealDad

A nice light topic compared to the last Sacred Symbols+ 😁

Marc Elfering

Any spoilers for the game in this discussion?

Pasqual Ribot

Either if the creators win or not, the buyers already lost. Nobody is going to buy a sequel from them just for the IP, without any of the soul of the original. The game is not that open ended that demands a sequel, so the creators might be better off doing something else with similar game systems and keeping the deep political discourse that I fell in love with.

Joshua

As a borderline commie I love to hear Colin talk about economics & such, I miss his polical content. While I mostly stand on the opposing side of the political spectrum now Colin was the guy that got me into Politics in Highschool back during Kinda Funny.

Yiorgos

Borderline Commie huh Joshua? I guess things like Holodomor, Cuba, Soviet Union oppression are to be glossed over. Is the ever present "that wasn't real Communism" the usual reply I should expect?

Matthías Guðmundsson

Should I be worried that Disco Elysium might be delisted in the near future because of this fiasco?

LastStandMedia

Political content doesn't make me happy, but being able to fuse my passions like this is a great time. Thank you for listening.

Sam Torstenbo

"I saw the mask of humanity fall from capital, it has to take it off to kill everyone--everything you love"