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A few weeks ago, I (Colin) conducted what ended up being a mega-popular episode of Sacred Symbols+ with an expert on China. Why was that relevant to this audience? Well, China is spending a whole lot of money on gaming, and we should at least know what we're getting into. A smaller national player has also entered the arena, though: Saudi Arabia. With one of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds, the Saudi government -- a totalitarian, dynastic Islamist monarchy -- owns pieces of Take Two, EA, Activision-Blizzard, and others, including a full 5% of Capcom and Nacon. And then there's the Saudi government-run non-profit, Misk, which owns a majority of SNK, as well as other tech entities. Now, Saudi money isn't just any money, and Saudi Arabia isn't just any country. It's a mega-rich petrostate, run under Sharia Law, where women don't have anywhere near the same rights as men, where being gay or transgender can get you thrown in prison, and where beheadings are regularly conducted, in public, for all to see. We say it on the show all the time: It's impossible to live an economically moral life. That's true with Saudi Arabia, too. But we should at least have our eyes wide open as to what we're getting into, and to do that, I've invited Dr. Robert C. Mogielnicki, Senior Resident Scholar at The Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington DC, to explain all we need to know about this new, heavily-weighted cash flowing into our space.

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Greg Wallace

Fascinating episode. Dr. Mogielnicki seems cautiously optimistic about the prospect of Saudi Arabia’s future and the advances under the crown prince. Its nice to feel like maybe this move on games isn’t destined to end up like China stranglehold on the entertainment industry. I do think we need to keep our eyes on them at the same time and it’s also good to know we have people doing so. Thanks for getting such interesting guests to speak on topics that greatly affect the industry we love.

Anonymous

Hey. Writing this not as a “correction” but more of an added bit of info. Also happy to go into further detail if anyone is interested. As a life long (30 odd year) supporter of the Premier League club that Colin mentions in this episode I can inform the listeners that my club, Newcastle Utd, are now completely 100 percent owned by the PIF/Saudi royal family. This has given the fan base an almost impossible moral dilemma to overcome and also vilified them in the eyes of the majority of UK media and other football fans alike. I really urge you to search “Newcastle takeover” and see just what full investment from such an entity/state can mean to the people connected to that club or company. Without going into detail it has propelled Newcastle to be the richest club in the world, given their supporters hope of a club that will compete at the highest level, and also displaced a turgid uninterested owner that plagued the club for 13 years prior. Though this has come at a major moralistic price for everyone connected to the club. Sorry for the rant, this episode obviously extremely close to something all our fans are dealing with currently.

Jack Sibert

Colin gets those good interviews 👌

Anonymous

These conversations are great. I would honestly never hear about any of this if it wasn’t for for LSM. Kudos, guys.

Mitchell Lundsberg

These deep dives are great. I felt like you painted a full picture of what is actually happening over there. Very educational.

LastStandMedia

Definitely. I see his point about things getting better, but I think the nature of their culture will allow it to only be marginally so.

william planas

I really really dont want this to come off the wrong way but I was legitimately surprised by how many times he (basically) said "I dont know" to your questions. :/ I'm no expert in Saudi Arabia but I feel like I knew a bit more about some of this stuff then he did..like the gay rights question is just one example ,oil history, etc...yea idk maybe its just me but it stuck out to me

Cash

He knows, it's just not politically correct to speak publicly about, given his occupation.

OCEL0T

It doesn’t take a few google searches to see that the young crown Prince is still instituting horrible practices in the country. Repression of rights, murder, etc. none of that is excusable and small steps are not nearly enough. Call me a pessimist but I’m not hopeful. One of those is too much, sorry they need to modernize, basic human rights are kind of important

TrackyMatts

Paul, interested to know if many fans have made a choice to turn their backs on the club? Wondering if there has been talk of starting a new club, in the FC United of Manchester mould.

Drewbuntu

I've taken a few days to think on this episode. I gotta say, I'm disturbed by the guest. What a Saudi apologist. He essentially swept under the rug the 81 beheadings. And khashogi. And gay rights. "They're getting better. The prince is better" Gross.

Alex

I feel very similarly. It almost felt like he was making excuses. That really bugged me throughout the conversation. Still, thank you for the episode.

Anonymous

Trackymatts There’s a huge difference between the Newcastle and Man Utd takeovers, before Man Utd were taken over they were a hugely successful club and the fans were happy with the situation. Newcastle (although a huge club with a massive fan base) have not won a major trophy in my lifetime (I’m 38!) and had a terrible owner before the takeover. Football in this country is extremely tribal, I would wager 99% of Newcastle fans will just be happy to have loads of money to spend on players and ultimately become massively successful, it might not be right but it’s how it is, as a Tottenham fan I’m sure that’s how I’d be feeling.

TheJoe-senOne

This is one of the most fascinating episodes I've ever heard you do. Thank you so much!