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Running Up the Score | Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast Episode 174

While there's no doubt Microsoft's Xbox Series X is doing great, there's also no doubt that Sony's PlayStation 5 is doing even better. Markedly so. Microsoft stubbornly refuses to publicly state how many consoles it has sold, but we now know that Sony has surpassed 13 million in less than a year, almost certainly beginning to put some distance between PS5 and XSX. Let's discuss what these new sales figures mean, and whether inertia might be turning into new momentum. Also: Guerrilla is hiring for external Horizon projects, Warner Bros. is making a goofy-looking crossover fighter, the next PlayStation-to-PC game isn't one you may have expected, Stardew Valley's spiritual successor looks awfully endearing, PS+ games are en route, and more. Oh, and we talk at length about the most recent State of Play, too. We also get into listener questions, as always. Do we trust Bluepoint with a Bloodborne sequel? What's going on with Sony's and Apple's increasingly-obvious closeness? What are the right foods (if any) to eat while gaming? Has Dustin fooled everyone with his love of Aldi? All of that -- and much more -- on the other side of the play button. Get some Sacred Symbols merch! https://LastStandMedia.shop Follow the hosts on Twitter! Colin: https://twitter.com/notaxation Chris: https://twitter.com/ChrisRGun Dustin: https://twitter.com/DustinCanFly A new episode of Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast launches each Friday morning. To receive instant, ad-free access, as well as other perks, please support the show on Patreon at http://patreon.com/LastStandMedia You can also subscribe to the audio version of the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, and other podcast providers, or use this link: https://open.spotify.com/show/1GKTOA7ZhIfrxIxSR0rg25 Listen to Colin's retro and nostalgia podcast, KnockBack (also available on podcast services): http://bit.ly/KnockBackPod #PlayStation #SacredSymbols #LastStandMedia 0:00:00 - Intro 0:04:50 - Corrections, comments, and concerns. 0:37:24 - Some smaller news items. 1:00:35 - October 2021 State of Play impressions. 1:27:49 - What have we been playing? 1:51:55 - New sales numbers have rolled in for PS5, and they are very good. 2:04:19 - Guerilla appears to be farming out their IP to external teams. 2:12:10 - Sackboy: A Big Adventure appears to be coming to PC. 2:18:33 - Warner Bros. is reportedly developing a crossover fighter. 2:28:57 - Returnal’s 2.0 update is out now. 2:35:28 - ConcernedApe, developer of Stardew Valley, is working on a new title. 2:39:21 - The remastered GTA trilogy is official, and it’s coming to PS4 and PS5 soon. 2:50:00 - November’s PS+ games have been revealed, including some extra PSVR titles. 2:52:55 - Until Dawn’s new title, The Devil in Me, has been announced. 2:57:31 - Team Ninja has announced their new game. 3:02:41 - A Quiet Place is getting a video game set in the same universe. 3:07:03 - GungHo Online Entertainment has sold off Grasshopper Manufacture. 3:08:24 - News Wrap-Up 3:09:26 - Should Bluepoint be working on the Bloodborne sequel instead of From Software? 3:14:39 - Could Xbox dominate the holiday conversation this year? 3:18:22 - What is the best meal or snack for gaming? 3:23:45 - Is there more behind the Apple/PlayStation relationship? 3:28:43 - Will the gaming industry converge on the product or platform model? 3:39:56 - Should PlayStation be working on a character based racer?

Comments

NotYurRealDad

I had to google what SIDS was

Michael Miller

Just started. Do you also fart in this episode?

Stephen Forgione

I know Twitter has the problems Colin mentioned, and I think Reddit even has this issue x10 because it creates a community hive mind. Outside of sports and games I avoid Reddit like the plague. It’s a shame too because pre 2015 Reddit was actually generally useful.

Anonymous

And Metal Gear Solid 5 is (sort of) a remake of the original Metal Gears on NES and MSX2.

LastStandMedia

I deleted your previous message, and have no fucking clue why you thought it was appropriate to post spoilers of the game I literally just said I was avoiding spoilers on. Please be more thoughtful in the future. You avoided spoiling a game for me by mere minutes that I had gone SIXTEEN YEARS without being spoiled. And if that happened, I would have been furious. Mindfulness! Thanks.

Anonymous

Sorry. I truly I’m bro sorry. But to be honest it’s sort of alluded in MGS2 and on the cover of MGS4. I honestly thought you weren’t really understanding the games. Sorry again

Kenneth Oms

Happy for you in terms of reducing your Twitter usage brother. I’ll miss tweeting positive shit at you, but at least I still got Dagan. Can’t wait for the last stand metaverse

Ryan Zimm

I obviously can only speak for myself, but I didn't take it as you making fun of Kit Harington for being short....i DID take offense to the insinuation that being short meant he can't fight or lead. Sure, he could never beat The Mountain in hand to hand combat. But it takes brains and charisma to lead (nothing to do with height), and skill to fight (yeah yeah, i know there are other factors).

Jeff Caseres

Hey guys! Chris was talking about Rockstar removing the confederate flag from GTA Vice City because of the game coming to the App Store. Although that could be the reason and makes sense, their newest show called Invasion on AppleTV+ has a whole scene that shows the confederate flag about three times, also tied to some assholes with dogs in cages. It’s just all weird and inconsistent. Love y’all!

Avery Illies

Chris ripping on Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl bummed me out so bad. Me and my Zoomer siblings love the brawler, as there are absolutely no parallels except for Smash Brothers on an entirely separate console that I don't own, and PlayStation All-Stars which is a tad different and out of style. Chris only says the game is a meme, which completely dismisses the quality and attention that the devs put in to this game. It definitely fills a void. And the Warner Bros fighter really excited me and my 3 sisters. Chris is basically saying that the developers can't make what they want to make simply because something better already exists. Honestly I'm not upset I'm just sad. Sackboy is something I still have fun playing with them on weekends and with my 6 year old niece. Kind of makes me wanna tune out and listen to something else :(

Romeo

Fellas, I gotta say, Dr. Pepper is fucking amazing. Catch these hands. Also, shout-out to Walmart’s off-price Dr. Pepper, Dr. Thunder.

LastStandMedia

Thank you. Many people were totally sweet and positive and nice. I'm just sick of people acting like barnacles.

LastStandMedia

This is interesting. I think what we need to know for sure before anything else is if it's truly not in the game. It's possible it's just for the ad (though I doubt it). THEN we can figure out where to go. =)

Julian Zhu

Napoleon would like a word Colin ;). Jokes aside, awesome show this week guys. One comment -- Alien Isolation indeed has combat and gadgets. I could see the A Quiet Place game being exactly like it to the tee (homemade gadgets, stealth, sound weapons) as you mentioned and that would have promise imo

Anonymous

On the snacking while gaming conversation, I have recently started using chopsticks to eat cheetos and various other messy snacks while gaming and it has been a revelation. Highly recommend chopsticks for snacking.

Erk-Prime

Dr. Pepper IS horrible. #haveababybymebeamillionare

Liam Mcnulty

I always brush my teeth in the shower, I got it from the military as well, it can save you a couple of vital minutes lol. Plus it just makes the toothpaste feel somehow more refreshing, might be the mint mixing with the hot steam when you breath it in. And how are people upset by the Far Cry email 😂it's just a bit of fun. People really do love to be a victim.

NickBLeaveIt

Not that I can be bothered to “dig through the archives” to check, but I recall previously seeing KartRider: Drift at an Inside Xbox event - I think X019?, and there was a SS+ for that event.

Anonymous

This will definitely cause some issues with the console crusaders but regarding the Sackboy port, would it make more sense for Sony to bring that to Switch? Personally, I don’t see Nintendo and Sony (with no current handheld) as true competitors. I know Sony just adopted the PC strategy but in many ways, Switch’s market is similar. Plus, there’s very little interest in Sackboy on PS, but on Switch, it seems perfect. I could see an insane ROI which could allow them to be more adventurous/creative on some new (or dormant) IP. P.S. Sony tell me you’re making another handheld and I’ll never mention this again lol

Justin Credible

I feel so much better after hearing Colin and Chris talk about Deathloop. I thought something was wrong with me cause I just wasn’t feeling it at all. I tried to force myself through it as well, but it just frustrates me even more. It’s a chore of a game. Definitely not fun to play in my opinion. I get why some people like it. Just not for me.

Zack Fair

Colin, have you started Tales of Arise yet as I haven't heard you mention you're playing it in what you guys are playing in past episodes or today you didn't mention it in what you're playing in next few months

LastStandMedia

I'd personally love to see that, but as I understand it, Nintendo and Sony are still staunch rivals behind-the-scenes.

LastStandMedia

It just doesn't get out of its own way. I have no real interest in it, now. I'll go back one day, maybe.

LastStandMedia

I started it then stopped. Micah's almost done. I've been playing other stuff. Whatever I've mentioned.

IslanderButNotLong

Not a fan of the Quiet Place hate from Chris and Dustin lol great movie. Would like to eventually hear Colin’s thought on the second movie when you get around to watch it. Maybe on Knockback!

Marco Maluf

Good thing Dagan is 5”8, imagine if he was 5”7 and had to deal with your mockery about how short he is…. 🤣 j/k Love you all equally even with Colin loving his elder son the most. 😘

Zack Fair

Did you buy Jett The far shore Colin as you said you were interested in that game

Dave Carsley

I think Colin's viewpoint on whether or not PS5 is "worth it yet" is necessarily tinged with having always been exclusively a console player (which of course is understandable and in no way makes him "wrong"). Every year or every other year, tons of us who play in the PC space stand in line outside stores in the freezing cold for hours, or sleep on sidewalks overnight, just for the chance to be one of the lucky ones that day who gets the "privilege" of being allowed to spend $500, $700, $900, or even $1,500 on a new GPU just so the games we already own will run at 60fps instead of 45fps, or so they'll run on "ultra" graphics settings instead of "very high". I think that like it or not, consoles are becoming more like PCs every generation, and that's not going to stop any time soon (probably until consoles are gone and the major players just become subscription streaming services). Instead of having a new Mario or Sonic at launch every generation to entice buyers into new hardware, it's going to be about getting higher framerates, higher resolution, better load times, etc. on a player's current favorite games, and also adding more technology in the form of greater AI, machine learning, and other things that benefit games (Nvidia DLSS type things).

Andrew Gambill

Usually a year or so in I buy a second controller and use my launch controller as the "snack" controller. I don't trash it, but if I want to have a snack while I play I don't have to be as concerned with that controller.

Lewis Templeton

As a heads up, time stamp for first ad is actually 31:41. 29:32 is when it starts.

The Eclectic Gamer

Colin is all talk regarding the indie scene…he’ll expense the sale to his business account but never play it and then claim it’ll go “on the list” like Death’s Door, Disco Elysium and Hades, and to a lesser extent, 13 Sentinels.

Matthew Deane

Would be interesting to explore other genres within Horizon universe. A RTS game would be fun with the different factions being able to build the “Machines” instead of military vehicles.

LastStandMedia

Yeah, I tend to buy a new controller every year or so myself, although I'm still using my original PS5s' respective controllers.

LastStandMedia

That could be cool. With mouse and keyboard support, there is a lot of potential to explore that genre on PS5.

Anonymous

I agree with reducing your Twitter usage. I feel like it has been getting worse and worse over time and its just not worth it to engage with those types of negative comments anymore. As someone who watches sports and plays games, these two things are so overly negative most of the time on Twitter and I just don't bother anymore.

Anonymous

I love and have always loved brushing my teeth in the shower. Mostly as a time-saving measure, but there's a bit of the pleasure element to it as well. Feels refreshing!

BMJ614

Hey CDC, this question is for Colin but both Chris and Dustin can add their 2 cent. What was your verbal score on your SAT? I ask this because of your vast vocabulary and I swear that some of the words you use aren't real words. Thanks from Byron

Raymond Stuart

Sony sales are amazing. Sales are likely driven by some of the fear of missing out / wanting something that is hard to get. Xbox sales would likely be better than they are because they made a strategic decision to upgrade all their Game Pass server blades to the Xbox Series architecture. Great to see strong competition.

LastStandMedia

You can never underestimate the economies of scarcity. Wii's were bought by the millions simply because you could never find one!

Conor Campbell

My snack question was not a trick question! I, like Chris, reach for a snack if I die, gameplay stops or I have to quickly stop to do something. The Jaffa cake is perfect for this, as are sweets (candy) or fruit if you are a degenerate. Colin I'm sorry, but I have had Dr Pepper as my drink whilst gaming.... Thanks for the content, I am currently enjoying the Konami episode and wish you all the best

Raymond Stuart

Wow! Sony lost the PS Vita trademark???? https://gamerant.com/sony-loses-ps-vita-trademark/

LastStandMedia

As I recall, my SAT was 1280 (when it was 1600 high). How it split, I don't remember, but I recall doing really mediocre on the math part.

Solomon

I'm not sure anyone will see this but I just wanted to say that I appreciated the talk about social media and its toxicity at the beginning of this episode. I'm a Pro-Wrestler, and a few months ago, one of my friends was injured very badly. It kind of blew up online recently and people were just saying the most awful things about this guy they didn't know like he somehow deserved it. This was the first time I experienced something like this on a personal level. But I just want to thank you guys for talking about this because it made me feel not so alone in this type of experience. I never realized how much this can effect you when you are so close to it.

LastStandMedia

It's brutal, and it's really not worth it. I'm totally fine not posting, it's been easier than I thought. =) Wishing you well.