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Techland, Dying Light, and Something Uniquely Polish | Sacred Symbols+ Episode 130

In 2015, an open world zombie game called Dying Light came to PlayStation 4, and as unassuming as it seemed at first, it would go on to become one of the console's best AAA third-party experiences, full-stop. Better yet, in early 2022, its long-awaited sequel finally -- finally! -- launches on PS4 and PS5. As a big fan of Dying Light, I (Colin) have always wanted to talk to someone at Techland about their studio, projects, culture, and success, and I've found my man: Bartosz Kulon. Kulon was Lead Programmer on both Dead Island (from 2011) and Dying Light, and he's been toiling away on Dying Light 2 ever since. Our conversation is a fun one, and it's wide-ranging, too. We discuss Kulon's interesting origins in the industry and how he came to Techland. We also talk about the development of Dead Island and Dying Light, the unexpected and meteoric success of both, self-funding projects as opposed to working with a publisher, the special sauce of Polish game development, the game-centric benefits of Soviet-style education, and so much more. You're gonna love this one. I know it.

Comments

Anastas Lyakh

I haven't even started to watch it and it so fucking cool. Colin is killing it lately. Banger after banger, best 5 bucks a month ever spent!

Johannes

What a cool dude. Thanks for that one, Colin! Really enjoyed it.

Clay Layne

Great interview! I've never played Dying Light. I will be starting this tonight co-op with a friend tonight!

Anonymous

Great listen, he seems like a cool guy. Keep it up, Colin. Loving these interviews for Sacred+!

Anonymous

Great episode as always! Your content is getting better and better!

Michael J Sutherland

Damn! That was one of the most refreshing and genuine interviews I have seen in a long time. LSM is really stepping up their game! Happy Hockey season Colin BTW!

Anonymous

Really amazing episode. The polish are coming strong in the last 5+ years. Great to hear from someone in that area and awesome insight into the work they are doing. Stella stuff once again LSM! Doing the work others don’t! Well done

Matthew Guilford

I don’t come on the Patreon page often but I had to say that was a fantastic interview! He was such a fun guest and Colin did a great job! Keep up the amazing and unique work!

Michael (ObjoGaming)

This was a great interview! Love to hear from devs, especially from studios/countries that aren't heard from as often.

Anonymous

Really loved this episode! I also found his reasoning for why Poland had such a strong presence in game dev really insightful. Definitely hope he comes back on the show one day.

Peter Montaño

I find myself greatly appreciating these types of interviews. I love the ‘no frills, just premium content’ LSM is all about. Can’t wait to support Dying Light 2 and Techland!

Jake Watson

This is probably my favourite episode of ss+ yet. Fucking awesome.

Benjamin Schultz

Great show. The guest was genuine and not a speaking head of the company. Lots of great behind the scenes info. Would love more of these inside the studios interviews that are sincere. Great work

Andrew Johnson

Please have him on again when dying light 2 comes out! Such a genuine guy and fascinating to listen to!

Petre Cismigiu

I just finished this episode and I just have to say this: this was my favorite ss+ episode ever (and I've seen them all, mind you). Bartosz is such a cool dude and the chemistry and vibe between you guys was absolutely awesome. Colin, you're a master interviewer, it is so fun and interesting to watch you doing this. Can't wait for more content like this! You're killing it, bud

Anonymous

Two thumbs up to both guys for this conversation. I hope Dying Light 2 will be of the same quality.

Anonymous

This was a great interview!

Anonymous

Long time Patron, first time writer (kinda)... This was awesome! dying Light is one of my favourite games last gen, and this interview was simply fantastic. Loved the chemistry between you guys. You should have him on for a regular segment :-)

Zack Fair

Awesome interview Colin, Please get Bartosz back to talk about the game once its out

brendan p

I just wanted say that this episode was absolutely fantastic. Head (Bartosz) provided quite the unique conversation and perspective, being a Polish developer. My favorite part of the conversation was the last bit of it, where he tackled the theory as to how Polish studios work a bit different. It made me realize how much I love hearing about different cultures and ways of thinking. Would love to see and hear more, when relevant, about that type of stuff from developers and other industry people. Thanks to the LSM folks for this one <3

BettyAnn Moriarty

What a wonderful conversation! So honest, and enlightening-tinged with that wonderful sense of humor. I couldn’t stop listening. ‘Head’ certainly has his (head) on straight. Completely mesmerizing! Thanks to both of you. Bravo!

Anonymous

What a brilliant insight into the games industry. He seems like such a cool , down to earth bloke . These guest interviews are ace please keep them up .

Liam Mcnulty

This was a brilliant watch. Thank you

Greg Middleton

Really enjoyed this conversation, thanks.

gloVA

Haha - Colin has better sons than me 😉 but still thx for kind words ♥️

gloVA

Thank You - I tried my best to keep up with Colin 😅

Homz

Just listened to this episode. Loved it. Keep up the good work Col ya legend!

Jesse Sanchez

Please you must have him on again for Dying Light 2