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KnockBack, Episode 177 | The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (film) (Patreon)

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2021-06-28 16:00:10
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2022-07-19 22:15:51
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Peter Jackson's epic film rendition of JRR Tolkein's equally-epic fantasy book series wraps up with 2003's Return of the King, a flick many (including us) consider to be the strongest of the three. As Middle-earth seeks balance and peace, the forces of evil remain very much in play. While Frodo and Sam make a beeline for Mount Doom, the Fellowship and their forces fight for survival. With amazing performances, a wonderful score, solid CG, and an amazing story (of course!), we're sad to see Tolkein's Trilogy off. But fear not, for all hasn't yet turned to vain ambition.

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Robbie Agnew

Terrible take in regards to wanting them to mess with the original movies and make special editions with improved cgi. The reason this movie was phenomenal was because of its heart and superb physical special effects. Just look at the Star Wars special editions and how much worse those additions made the movies. Also, I don’t trust Peter Jackson anymore after the hobbit trilogy and that weird movie called Mortal Engines. Leave it alone, it’s fantastic and it shows a point in time in the history of movies.

Leonard Jacobson
>>62719714

I re-watched the extended editions a few months ago. They really hold up, especially considering they're all 20ish years old. Personally, I liked the Hobbit trilogy, however, I seemed to be in the minority. Maybe I'm biased. I'm from New Zealand and just spent a week on holiday around where quite a lot of the trilogies were filmed.

Ryan Zimm
>>62719714

As long as they don't try to remove the Originals, I have no problem with them updating any of the FX. There are a few scenes that are terrible (and WERE terrible on release....like Deagol being pulled under water by the fish.....and Gandalf lifting Pippon onto Shadowfax)

Caleb Greer

Fantastic episode. Few answers to your questions: the dwarves are fighting their own battle, The Battle of Dane, outside and within The Lonely Mountain from the Hobbit, with the characters like King Brand, King Dain II Ironfoot, etc., and it’s as big or bigger than the one at Minas Tirith (Legolas alludes to in passing talking to Gimli). Merry doesn’t simply take out The Witch King—it’s fate. The Barrows-Blades given to the Hobbit’s by Tom Bombadil were forged by men fighting the Witch King in Angmar long ago, enchanted to stop the Witch King from being immortal if stabbed. It’s destiny Merry was there to stab him (movie doesn’t convey this). The Orcs are corrupted creatures who love darkness (literally), murder, man-flesh, and foul things, thus they align with Sauron. They are born from the slime and filth of the darkest places in the earth/ground according to Tolkien, whatever that means. Explaining the Undying Lands, the Eagles, and the men not of the West would take too long, lol. Visit “The Men of the West” YouTube channel if you want answers to literally anything.

LastStandMedia
>>62719714

Just because the Special Editions from 1997 didn't do it right doesn't mean it couldn't be cleaned up now.

NukeDukem

I really wanted Colin’s take on the tomato eating. Knowing you hate loud eaters I wanted you to tear into that savage asshole Denethor.

LastStandMedia
>>62735895

I'm sorry. I actually had that question in the document, but because Dagan brought his eating up, it didn't seem prudent to read it.

NukeDukem
>>62735895

Very true, it wouldn’t have made much sense to go over it again. That damned scene makes me sick just thinking about it. That plus when Sméagol bites into the fish at the beginning of the movie 🤢. Heck of a movie otherwise, I was in the 7th grade when it came out, it’s one of the first memories I have of going to a movie opening night.

MJ SKA BOI

As for the Witch King being so easily defeated, this is really PJ's fault for leaving out old Tom Bombadil, or at least for not otherwise getting into the lore behind the blades Merry and Pippin wield, which are ancient, and forged specifically to combat the Witch King because he can't be otherwise touched.

MJ SKA BOI

And they likely did film all shire scenes while filming fellowship as they filmed the entire trilogy at once

Ryan Zimm
>>62732027

@Caleb Greer. Thanks for bringing up Men of the West....I've spent the last 3 days watching his vids. They are great!

DeucesBruh

In college we would watch these movies and take a shot every time Frodo looked like he was climaxing. He really does it a lot.

Carson Smith

I don't know how true this is, but I believe that pretty much anyone on Middle Earth would be corrupted by the Ring, which culminates to a point where not one person could willfully throw the ring into the mount doom. That is why the pity of Bilbo sparing Gollum in the "The Hobbit" is such a meaningful decision. Gollum had his purpose and it was his lust for the ring that caused the ring's destruction. The very thing that Sauron baked into the ring to keep it alive is what ended it ultimately as Gollum and Frodo fought over the ring. I also see this as a obvious parallel to the fallibility of humanity and that yes we humans have our limits and cannot overcome everything we set our minds too. There are powers that are just too great, but we must struggle on regardless, for not all powers in this world are evil.

TheJoe-senOne

Conspiracy Theory is the quintessential Mel Gibson Eye Dart motion picture