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Sacred Symbols, Episode 149: Returnal of the Mack (Video) (Patreon)

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2021-05-07 16:25:06
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Returnal of the Mack | Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast Episode 149

We've waited long enough: Housemarque's newest PlayStation game has arrived. Indeed, they always seem to be there in a second party capacity at launch, whether it's with Super Stardust for PS3 and Vita, or Resogun for PS4. Yet, their newest offering -- Returnal -- is a stark departure for a team previously known only for its arcadey fare, and so the question is: Do we like it? Well, we've got a whole lot to say (good and bad) in our exploration of the endless loop. Then: News! Sony has acquired a piece of Discord, and the service will be fully integrated into both PS4 and PS5. A redesign for PlayStation 5 is apparently already being redesigned, though it's nothing to get excited about. A new trademark for Sunset Overdrive has people talking about Insomniac's lone Xbox game and its future. And much, much more. Plus: Listener inquiries! Is publishing games on PC actually a really bad idea for PlayStation? Should critics be reviewing games without having finished them? What's the story with Sony's smallest first party team, Pixelopus? Will Colin be able to handle David Jaffe?! Get some Sacred Symbols merch! https://LastStandMedia.shop A new episode of Sacred Symbols: A PlayStation Podcast launches each Friday morning. To receive instant, ad-free access, as well as other perks, please support the show on Patreon at http://patreon.com/LastStandMedia You can also subscribe to the audio version of the podcast on iTunes, Google Play, and other podcast providers, or use this link: https://open.spotify.com/show/1GKTOA7ZhIfrxIxSR0rg25 Listen to Colin's retro and nostalgia podcast, KnockBack (also available on podcast services): http://bit.ly/KnockBackPod #Returnal #SacredSymbols #LastStandMedia 0:00:00 - Intro 0:12:40 - A few smaller pieces of news. 0:24:08 - What have we been playing? 1:05:10 - Sony has invested into Discord and plans to integrate the service with their offerings. 1:12:29 - The PS5 may be getting a redesign in 2022. 1:15:31 - Sony has filed for the Sunset Overdrive trademark. 1:19:18 - EA has quietly purchased a Canadian sports developer named Metalhead. 1:17:44 - More trouble is brewing at CD Projekt Red. 1:27:05 - Fortnite has made A LOT of money according to documents in the Epic vs Apple lawsuit. 1:32:35 - Microsoft thinks highly of The Last of Us 2. 1:35:53- Konami has bowed out of E3 2021 while others have jumped on board. 1:40:23 - Sledgehammer is the developer for this year’s Call of Duty title. 1:46:39 - NPD has released some interesting data about Star Wars titles. 1:48:39 - Among Us is coming to PS4 and PS5 later this year. 1:50:35 - May’s PlayStation Now titles have been revealed. 1:51:15 - News Wrap-Up 1:52:36 - Should reviewers complete games before publishing? 2:03:36 - Is Pixelopus in danger in light of Sony’s focus on blockbuster games? 2:08:42 - Should we play Terminator: Resistance? 2:10:37 - Why do games have to prove they are worth $70? 2:15:09 - How often do Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft talk to each other? 2:18:15 - Should PlayStation let their games be published on other platforms?

Comments

Anonymous

Give a raise to whomever came up with this pun, then boo them mercilessly.

Frank G.

Lmfao this thumbnail is the best one! Dustin's head looks like those Futurama presidents.

Frank G.

Keep em on check as always big dawg.

Germanos

Thanks for taking my question/though into the episode 🙏 Glad we (mostly) agree. Just to add: I absolutely don't agree games should all cost 70$. Neither I think this would close the proving discussion. Games should be priced based on their value as calculated by the developers. By that I mean developes and publishers should explore the price point with more freedom and put their games on shelves with a 40, 50, 60, 70 and more if they think that is their games worth.

Watch Ergo Proxy

I did just want to say that I found the terminology problem in Returnal to not be that big a deal after a dozen or so cycles. I've put about 10 hours into the game, and I make sure to explore every room before I challenge the boss, so I'm starting to understand the flow of things and what the game really wants from me. I would say just put a few more cycles into it, see how you feel, but if you're not enjoying yourself then that's totally fair.

Payton Stone

1st time ever writing in, and it’s the first question read. Not mad at it! Appreciate it Colin!

Johnny Waffles

Colin. There is a daily challenge mode in Returnal that is entirely score chasing. Access it in the computer on the ship. I played it last night for a bit and I definitely think it's what you're looking for.

Anonymous

I wanna make this clear… I had the choice of listening to Chapelle finally make it on Rogan’s podcast or listen to this group of glistening gentlemen… and I picked these filthy animals. 💪🏽😎

Erk-Prime

Returnal is my GoY as of now 20+ hours played 😬

Bryan Watkins
>>59364641

I beat it last night. It's sooooooo damn good. The boss fights alone is worth the $70.

Dustin Johnson

Returnal is one of the most Arcady and pure gameplay fun I’ve had in awhile. In the beginning I thought it was pretty difficult, specifically the second boss. But once I rethought how to play it I find the game fairly easy, with a slight challenge now and again. Appreciate your honesty with your experience Colin, but I respectfully disagree (with you opinion) and do think this game is great. Atleast in my opinion.

LastStandMedia
>>59361096

Cool! I'll check it out. But if it plays with the same ruleset, it's still not gonna be what I want. =)

August McFarland

I found Returnal to be total breath of fresh air, unabashedly a game first and foremost. I would have loved it even if it only had boss fights to be honest, but the audio and visual presentation are terrificly well done. Colin's taste in games is hard to understand sometimes, playing Wild Arms 3 or Dragon Quest IX for 100+ hours indicates a more sauntering experience and repitition and he has the endurance and patience for that. A game like Returnal is a 100% attention and engrossing experience, and I thought he would really dig that. Its 30 hours or so of patience and incremental improvement. But if its not fun, its not fun. I thought the real missed opportunity was to juxtapose Days Gone's guy saying support games by paying "full fucking price" with the fact that so many games including Returnal come out broken and unquestionably a better value later when fully patched and knocked down in price.

Anonymous

I just joined the Patreon today and so glad I did!! Great podcast today, keep it up you guys!!

Ryan Harvey

Great podcast guys!! Hope that Chris is feeling okay though <3! Have a great weekend and enjoy RE8 boys!

Anonymous

I was hoping Returnal discussion was going to be when Chris was on. Guess I'll have to wait. It's very funny when I hear Colin is over the moon for Outriders and just grinding trophies the same way hardcore Destiny 2 players grind triumph score.

Brian

The game coverage on sacred symbols has always been top notch, but listening to you guys murder these game journo hacks...... Fucking beautiful

Alec Dyer

Great podcast, imagine if film critics got invited to an early screening and left half way through the film to go write their review to try and be the first reviews online lmao

MostlyCharlie

Colin, you make an excellent point about people spending more in the long run on sales than they otherwise would at full price. I recently got a PS5 and decided that, starting with this gen, I will no longer buy anything until I am good and ready to play it, because the number of games in my library far exceeds what I have the time and inclination for. Regarding Returnal: I’ve tried to like rogue-likes in the past, but they’re just not my thing. This one intrigues me quite a bit, but the lack of mid-run saving and the technical problems people are having is making me want to pass on it.

The Lizard King

I think Returnal is fantastic. I have been impressed with the use of the dualsense and how important a headset it. It’s a game I think about playing when I am away from my console which is always a good sign. The issue Colin has in that when you die you almost feel like it’s a wasted run as you then start a fresh with no items. I think the purpose of each run is to learn enemy patterns. You don’t go into a run with the expectation of beating the boss. It is more to understand the level and enemy patterns and when you feel ready you will then feel confident enough to attain the right consumables, weapon and path to the boss feeling prepared.

Alec Dyer

Agree with Dustin on the items and stuff in Returnal, the game could really use a tip system like in Nioh 2 where u can hover over stuff in the menu and it tells u what it does

Anonymous

When it comes to the beating games to review discussion; I think it’s important to point out that one does not always have to beat a game in order to understand what it has to offer. Obviously, genre specific games like Narrative heavy games or some RPG’s require completion to obtain the full experience; but there are many other games where if the reviewer is NOT enjoying playing though it, then they have full justification to stop and base their review from that. It’s like an album, if I’m not enjoying it past halfway; I’m not going to listen to the last few tracks of it.

Luke Silletta
>>59460280

I also really love Returnal. If you are a veteran of roguelike games then you will love it. I can see if someone isn't used to that formula and has a run that is weird it might turn some people off. But if you played games like Spelunky, Binding of Issac, Enter the Gungeon, Deadcells or the super popular Hades you will recognize this formula and prepare yourself. The rule of thumb for these games is to never rush and try to control your surroundings. Returnal is no different.

BlindRiot

I’ve been paying $100 for my day one digital purchases for years, meaning that if I enjoy a franchise or game enough for a day one purchase than I want all of the content that’s available. That’s in American buckaroos by the way.

BlindRiot

I’m not thrilled about Mass Effect running at 120 FPS on Series X but not PS5? What gives? Also, why is Sniper Ghost Warrior delayed on the PS5 only? What’s going on?

Anonymous

Lockmort’s Last Stand Edits? Maybe a small update to the naming that fits in the last stand branding

Douglas Morreale

If I pay for (or receive) a sandwich that tastes like shit, expecting me to finish that shit sandwich in order to give an accurate review of my culinary experience is absurd. The same concept extends to a 2 hour movie or potentially 80 hour video game. "But, it gets good after the first 15 hours!" Smh 🙄

Lee Bull

Just gonna put it out there, you can't knock Returnal critically. It's 3 points higher on metacritic than Ghost of Tsushima and only 3 points below Horizon Zero Dawn.

Kaz Redclaw

Sunset Overdrive was the singular game that I bought a Xbox One S for, years ago... I did buy a few others after that though. Of course, most of the games I played on that system were from the Rare Replay pack. Things like Lunar Jetman, Sabrewulf, etc. If I know that I want a game, I always just preorder it from Gamestop, since the risk is very low doing that.

Joe B

I think Colin is absurd to think the Microsoft reviewer has a good knowledge of everything happening at their 25 studios. Their say TLOU2 is a bar for anything released, not internally developed.