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The American publication Bloomberg is typically a reliable source of information, and a recent story within its pages tells an interesting tale. It appears Sony is having a hard time keeping production costs of PlayStation 5 down, so much so that it's delaying the Japanese corporation's ability to determine what it should charge for the console, or if it can even turn a profit selling it. There's even reportedly a little civil war going on internally, with some powers-that-be convinced profit should be extracted no matter what, even if it affects demand. Should we be worried? Well, maybe. We discuss. Then again, other news flows this week, too! After four Need For Speeds, EA is taking the series away from Ghost Games and giving it back to Criterion, Quantic Dream leaps forward into the great self-publishing unknown, People Can Fly's Destiny-like Outriders is PS5-bound, Ubisoft wants The Division 2 to live again, and much more. Plus: Listener inquiries! Was the Sonic movie any good? Should Untitled Goose Game really be DICE's Game of the Year? Is E3 in an uncontrollable death spiral? Can we please -- for the love of all that is holy in this world -- stop talking about Kingdom Hearts?

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:03:08 - We're going to keep talking about Twin Breaker until it comes out.
0:04:06 - The official PlayStation Forums are shutting down.
0:04:43 - Take it. It's yours!
0:08:46 - A totally unnecessary Kingdom Hearts correction.
0:09:58 - Activision and the Tony Hawk IP.
0:11:31 - Was the Sonic movie any good?
0:16:02 - Colin and Chris titles.
0:16:36 - Colin watched Parasite and saw The Lumineers.
0:21:01 - A new idiom based on last week’s Vita theft story.
0:21:17 - Colin considers putting Chris into a jar and carrying him around like BB.
0:22:29 - Why buy Twin Breaker if fans can just make it in Dreams?
0:23:24 - What have we been playing?
0:31:32 - Sony is having a hard time keeping PS5 production costs down.
0:46:31 - PSVR2 is coming after PlayStation 5, says a reliable source.
0:51:12 - Sony purchased Insomniac for $229 million.
0:56:30 - Quantic Dream has revealed it’s future post-Sony plans.
1:00:19 - EA gives Need For Speed back to Criterion; Ghost Games to focus on Frostbite.
1:06:04 - A major expansion is coming to The Division 2.
1:12:18 - More Control is on the way.
1:17:57 - People Can Fly officially reveals PS5 game Outriders.
1:22:11 - NPD sales numbers for January 2020 have been reported.
1:24:30 - 2K Silicon Valley is now called 31st Union.
1:27:28 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
1:29:08 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
1:38:22 - What are Sony's plans for Dreams?
1:45:00 - Just reveal PlayStation 5 already, Sony!
1:49:57 - How do we feel about Untitled Goose Game DICE's GotY award?
1:54:40 - What does Geoff Keighley's E3 absence say about the show?
2:01:50 - Should we be praising devs that make bad games better?
2:07:22 - It's okay not to like The Last of Us, right?

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Anonymous

Haven’t been having the best day today. This should definitely help though. Thanks for all your hard work, Colin!

Alex Bolton

PlayStation 5 is gonna be $599, those "must turn a profit" folks are gonna win that internal civil war and Sony is going to repeat history. The PS4's popularity is almost rival that of the PS2, and arrogant Sony might be back in full form here.

desperateLuck

Parasite is undoubtedly better than Joker

Dick McFarmhouse

Thanks for reading my question Colin about when Sony is going to show off the PS5. It would be really interesting if they did the event at the exact same time as E3, that would be a major way to make a statement that E3 isn't needed anymore. But if these consoles are $500 I wonder if showing off your console that late in the year would cause issues with people who would need to save the money to buy one...then again they did reveal the PS4 price at E3 for a November launch. So in short I have no idea what they are doing at this point.

Philip Andersen

The magical number should be $420 :p … but for real tho, I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony undercut Xbox by 50usd, maybe Xbox will include game pass first X month/s for that 500usd.

Jack Sibert

Colin, speaking of attending live events- If you're ever interested in catching some hockey at the nation's capital you should come up and catch a Islanders v. Caps game! Always looking for people to watch hockey with

GameSimp

Corona virus has a 2% death rate. Just saying...

B00ch

wow. I think $500, but what you said I could see happening.

Caleb Greer

Your engagement with the audience in the beginning of the show by reading all those comments and questions is pretty neat-o.

Marc Cairney

I laughed out loud walking down the street at "what does Shrek do.." haha 🤣

James Galos

I saw a rumor on IGN that the goal was $450 for PS5... Must just be one side leaking out to the press to apply pressure to get the price down. Hopefully they don’t come in at $600 and let down everyone looking for the $450 price tag.

Alex Bolton

I would love to see them do a game pass bundle. I think Xbox is going to experiment with a few pricing options as well, as we already know they are going to do the leasing the system at a monthly price with game pass and live included. That's a similar structure to a lot of phone plans when you buy a new phone, so they may see success there. If they are successful there, I don't see Sony having an answer for that.

Jake Z

Snowpiercer is boring as fuck. Fell asleep. Okja is cringey and unwatchable. Turned it off. Parasite was fine. Extremely overrated.

Zack Forney

You are an insane man for still playing Dragon Quest XI. I tried a bit of the post game but had no investment in the story to see the true ending. Gonna go back and get the platinum in your honor now. Also the “Bedtime Stories” tidbit comes, word for word, from the wonderful Kotaku review of the game. Even if you don’t like DQXI, the sheer passion Tim Rogers has for the game is enough to make you smile. He’s the only reviewer I paid attention to there

Jake Z

Please, for the love of God, put timestamps for the interminable weeb section of the podcast. Call it weeb window or something. I can't handle this shit for the rest of the year.

Kaleb

I always enjoy hearing you guys react to snippets of Kingdom Hearts. Now that the franchise has 4 teams working on it hopefully that means there will be plenty of news, and corrections, every year for the rest of your lives.

Anonymous

Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, This price is only available from 2/11/2020 08:00 am to 3/3/2020 08:00 am. Says Sony

Cannonball_Jones

The original Toy Story is still good.

Anonymous

Correction to a correction: The Kingdom Hearts game in question is actually spoken "Three Five Eight Days Over Two" you nerds. It's still a dumbass name but the record is being set straight.

Anonymous

Also to be put on the record, I absolutely get irritated with this series releases and I dropped out after this or KH2, whichever came last.

Anonymous

Hey Colin, I concur with your view about DLC that is released late after initial release. I bought the Horizon DLC and was planning on playing it, but felt that I had already spent an adequate amount of time with the initial game. I felt that I could have just waited for the sequel instead. Plus, there are so many new games released vying for my attention. Great game, though!

Anonymous

Colin talking about japanese and arcade like games makes me go hmmm yakuza my dude ;).

Andres

Colin I can't believe you said Parasite isn't best picture quality. You're literally the first person Ive heard of many to say this. God you're pedestrian when it comes to cinema. The cinematography and use of visuals to communicate themes was absolutely masterful. There's so many details & moments of foreshadowing that you can pick up on when rewatching. It's deeply satisfying.

Jordan Avery

Hey Colin, I'm glad to hear you are still trucking through Dragon Quest 11 despite the many different waves and characters deciding to make you dump more time in the game. I did feel the same but I must admit Dragon Quest 11 is one of my favorite platinum trophies. Keep up the great work!

ZachAttacksGames

Hey Colin, you said the PS4 wasn't sold at a loss but it was: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/09/20/sony-to-take-a-loss-on-playstation-4-sales/#4b30666f6f1d It was reported that Sony took a $60 loss on the console itself, but expected to break even with the sale of games, accessories and PSN that the average consumer would make at launch. Love the show and watching you blossom as a father to Chris is one of the highlights of my week.

Forrest Hunter

I think you’d get a kick out of Shrek. Michael Meyers channeling Fat Bastard and John Lithgow is amazing as the tiny villain.

Drew Sleezer

Hey guys, quick point about Outriders. I watched James Duggan’s preview video and it appears as though that trailer did the game a disservice. It looks like it plays *almost* identically to Gears of War. From the cover system to camera angles it’s very gears. Also it was claimed to be closer to Borderlands than Destiny in terms of structure. You can play the game solo in its entirety if you’d like and the devs claimed it is NOT a live service game. Just thought this info is necessary knowing how poorly the trailer showed off the game.

LastStandMedia

At $450, Sony would be selling a loss. $499 accounts for shipping costs, retailer fee, etc., and still gives them a modest profit. It's also a perfectly reasonable price for a new video game console in 2020.

Jason Stafford

Man, Colin, I'm really sorry you're not enjoying DQXI. :( I put about 120 hours into it on Switch and loved every second. I got really attached to the characters and the world and even teared up a few times. Bummer man. I hope you have a ton of fun with your next game whatever that may be.

LastStandMedia

I don't think it was: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/report-399-playstation-4-costs-about-381-to-build/ I Googled and found some people talking about how it was, but no sources I'd necessarily trust...

ZachAttacksGames

The Switch version is vastly superior to the PS4 version. There are so many QOL changes that address some of Colin's issues with the game.

Real Radec

Colin random question but would you still keep doing the podcast if suddenly Chris sounded exactly like Mike Tyson for the rest of his life?

McBain

Didn't know Chris was into some metal! Devin Townsend is probably the best songwriter and vocalist in metal of the last decade.

Anonymous

Wasn’t Warlords of New York revealed a week ago? I don’t think they’re keeping the expansion a secret.

Reuben Barrett

Haha great write up. Kingdom hearts will never go away!

Will Hahn

Question is Colin, is dragon quest bigger then des nutz?

Watch Ergo Proxy

These past few weeks have been everything I needed to know I'll never play mainline Dragon Quest, thank you for helping me be an informed consumer.

Lee Bull

Listen to Chris and play Hellblade! You're doing yourself a disservice as a gamer to sleep on it 😔.

Anonymous

Without the necessary means for a necessary means

Kenneth Oms

Fable 1 is better than 2. Fable 2 is not bad it’s just not as cool mechanically as the first one. In the first one leveling up aged you etc. Microsoft even remade the first fable gave it a huge face lift. Fable 3... we don’t talk about that. As for legends Microsoft forced a team that had no experience making a MOBA game to make a MOBA game so that’s why it got scrapped

Daniel Rivas

Hey, Col, the name of the game you were thinking of last week is called Flatout. Destruction and bodies flailing once ejected.

Anonymous

Colin: "I do love my weird Japanese shit" Everyone asking him to play Persona 5: *sigh*

NeO JD

Parasite was amazing. Saw that just before I started listening to this actually. 1 of the freshest movies I’ve seen in a while. EA forcing Frostbite on everyone still stands to me as 1 of the worst gaming decisions in the industry. They gotta just drop that shit already. I can relate to The Last of Us write in cause it didn’t click with me either til my 2nd play-through, same goes for Fallout 3, and both have since become some of my favorite games of all-time. Although falling asleep to TLoU sounds wild. 😄

Matthew Cooper

I think Sony will settle on $500 for PS5, sounds right to me. Too cheap and people won't want it, too expensive and people can't afford it, $500 is just right.

Anonymous

Snowpiercer is an excellent film, would definitely recommend!!!

LastStandMedia

Yes, it was revealed about a week ago. Hence its inclusion in the podcast. They were definitely keeping it a secret. That's what the entire reveal was about. You okay? LOL.

D'Ante Almo

Parasite was absolutely an amazing film. We had 4 movies in the running for Best Picture this year. 1917, Parasite, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Joker. I knew the academy wasn’t going with joker because they don’t truly take comic book movies serious. I’m happy Parasite won. Totally agree with Chris on giving things second chances. When I purchased Red Dead Redemption 2 at launch I played it for a few hours and the game was just TOO slow for me. It just did hit like I thought it would. I started back playing a few days ago and I’m hooked. Maybe The Last of Us just isn’t what he’s in the mood for at the moment.

LastStandMedia

It's all about the money! Mastering your own engine is a lifesaver financially... if you can do it.

Josh Lucas

Just wanted to point out that in December Control actually did receive a combat challenge mode called Expeditions. Not exactly a horde mode like Chris wanted but still combat based challenges.

Dread Fort

Colin, If you're wondering why Parasite won best picture it's because it was anti capitalism. The most "WOKE" movie always wins.

LastStandMedia

I've not seen 1917 or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, though I'd like to see both. Particularly the former.

FoxHopSmash

I know the answer.. but Colin, if you ever want to experience the Dark Zone in Division 2 I’ll be more then happy to take you through it. We don’t even have to talk.

Owen

Didn’t insomniac develop some VR titles as well? Isn’t there something there for helping out with the future of psvr?

LastStandMedia

Yes. But at $229 million, that would be a heinous misallocation of assets. I don't think they were brought on to do PSVR stuff, but it couldn't hurt to have that expertise...

Kazden Risk

Correction: You stated that 10 people were playing Dreams but according to the https://indreams.me/ website there are about 5,400 people playing right this moment. I know you were being silly - but I actually thought it was a cool feature on their page to highlight how many are actually logged on. I haven't seen it exceed 10,000 yet, with the highest being around 7-8k at one time.

Chase Blauvelt

I'm confused what aspects of joker are appealing which were not delivered in Parasite. They are pretty similar movies to me and while Joaquin's performance was great, the Parasite cast were also very good (by the way you can totally tell a good from a bad performance even if it's in another language). Not saying Joker was bad, just can't see in what way it's better than Parasite. Keep in mind, I've seen Parasite 3 times and Joker only once so I legitimately could be forgetting something.

Chase Blauvelt

Parasite was about as woke as things like Joker and Little Women. Honestly, Parasite is the first actually good choice the academy has made in a while. Compare Parasite to Greenbook...

LastStandMedia

No, I know. There were 3,400 the night of release or something. 10,000 concurrents ain't good.

Kazden Risk

I actually commented when I heard you make the first joke and JUST heard you mention that 3,400 number later in the podcast. And totally - I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way to bundle it with PS5. You get the console and blam, an infinite supply of games through Dreams.

LastStandMedia

At $450 to manufacture plus costs of bringing the hardware to market, they should be able to eek out a profit, or break even.

Anonymous

I played DQ11 for 55 hours, got sick of it and quit. The game is too long for its own good. Never again.

Orion88

Enjoying Hunt: Showdown, 2019 was a single player gaming year for me, this is the first game in a while to get me back into MP gaming I’m happy to report!

Context Should Matter

2:06 I bought a copy of SNK vs. Capcom: Card Fighters Clash back in the day for the NDS and it had a game crashing bug. Kind of glad you can patch things now.

Anonymous

Abby killed Joel https://twitter.com/gaytrannyslut/status/1260208936449441792?s=19