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Premium Episode 59 - Novels as Spycraft 9 - 2666, or, Nothing Is Ever Behind Us, feat. Muslim Tom (Patreon)

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2023-04-21 14:55:47
Imported:
2023-04

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Today I'm joined by Muslim Tom (@MuslimTom_) from the podcast You Can't Win to discuss the novel 2666 by Roberto Bolaño. We go through each of the five sections and discuss characters, plots, vibes, and themes. There's almost everything in 2666, including many spiritual themes and parapolitical moments. Towards the end, we discuss the journalists Bolaño was working with who advance extremely noided theories about the femicides.

Content warning for discussion of sexual assault and murder. Also, spoilers, but spoilers should be less of a concern for this type of novel anyway. I don't think this episode is an automatic skip if you haven't read 2666 and hopefully this might encourage you to read it. Although you would get the most out of this episode if you read the novel, I'd like to think we lay out the plot and also read enough passages to make the episode enjoyable if you haven't read it.

Songs:

Jugaste y Sufri by Eslabon Armado ft. DannyLux

Apague Mi Mente by Carla Morrison

La Bestia by Junior H

Alcasiles by Isasa y Córdoba

La Llorona by Chavela Vargas

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https://youcantwin.info/

https://twitter.com/MuslimTom_

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https://programmed-to-chill.myshopify.com/

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Steve Ray

The young man leaving a German school when he got older sounds like a Colonia Dignidad reference.

Mickey Soltys

This episode is making me think of the songs Ambulance Blues from Neil Young and Woman is the Ni**** of the World from John Lennon. Great bumper music in this episode.

Philip

Ritter in German is pronounced Reetur, but hey Writer is much better in this case of course ;-) Great episode, so happy I caught the flu yesterday, I can just listen to the whole thing in one go...

Shoe Manghorn

As regards both Argentina and black (or at least dark-colored) cars, https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/the-ford-falcon-death-cars-of-argentina/ Ford Falcons were the symbol of the arrival of the junta's goons during la Guerra Sucia, and often meant someone was about to be disappeared. Obviously the name Peregrino would call to mind the Falcon as well. Given the variety of birds of prey Bolaño could have chosen from, I wonder about the old meaning of peregrine: one from abroad; a foreigner, traveller or pilgrim. But I definitely don't know what, if anything, is implied there.

Anonymous

I think Fate vomits because the DEA agents trafficking the drugs are depicted as black, when in reality they would’ve been extremely white, and it makes him sick to see the BULLSHIT

Anonymous

Haven't read the book. It's on the list but goddamn La Bestia goes crazy. Sad Boyz 4 life

Anonymous

the bolano-verse was doing character repetition mainly in the style of balzac and moorcock. so amalfitano being bolano-ish in the same novel as an arturo belano is typical of this approach. both in balzac’s stable of stand-ins and moorcock’s eternal champion. amalfitano is a bolano stand-in, that’s clear with woes of the true policeman where amalfitano shares more bolano biographic details. like, in woes amalfitano asks forgiveness for his left com politics which is what bolano self-identified as, especially during mexico with mario santiago papsquiaro. “the lost boys of guy debord”. also when dreams come up in bolano they are his allusions the philip k dick, so utopia hiding as dystopia etc. the last thing that stood out to me with the dream is if you tie magic to poetry then i think that works especially because bolano’s hero worship of roque dalton and his thoughts of el salvador after he was assassinated. lorca and mayakovsky are probably in there as well. el cerdo also has echos of ruiz-tagle in distant star which gives a new spin on his possibly relationship with reiter. bolano was also huge into noided novelist rodolfo walsh (every time there’s a Latin American of Irish name or decent that’s who he’s alluding to), who did operation massacre, so it’s totally plausible that he was planning to do a similar book about the femicides. anyway, could go on and on. great ep, fucking love bolano.