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Warriors vs Celtics | GM21 | (Patreon)

Published:
2021-02-03 20:07:01
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2021-02-03 20:09:25
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Kahlil Baker

Based on what you have been seeing from Kelly lately, do you think he could be on the trade block for Lonzo. I feel like Lonzo is just a better fit for us all in all.

Anonymous

Plus minus isn’t perfect, but when every starter is a +4 or better and Oubre is -25 it should be clear as day this thing with him ain’t ever gonna work

Connor H

I would love to see moulders spot filled with ANYBODY else. All the way done with that cat. Just brings nothing to the table. Even his shot doesn’t fall unless it’s garbage time. Use that roster spot who can take advantage of drays lob addiction lol

Anonymous

Man dray is really starting to get on my nerves. He’s acting like the OG for wiseman but he can’t do anything by himself offensively. Dray needs to get himself in better shape, stop doing some dumbass passes every game, and back up the talk. He ain’t worth the money! I know he’s the heart of this team but steph making an effort to be more vocal really makes me question the intangibles dray is providing.

Anonymous

i’m so tired of us wasting steph’s good games

Anonymous

I’d trade Mulder for Alchemy any day of the week

Abhi Kelkar

is it possible Seth's "lol" is more like "what a trash take?"

Anonymous

I echo your sentiments about Oubre & Draymond in this one...with Draymond especially it just feels like he’s struggling to find his usual balance. The board differential was awful in this one as well & Boston isn’t even a big team, will be interesting to see what adjustments (if any) come. Great analysis per usual Alch ☝🏻

Major Powers

The Seth Curry tweet is definitely some Curry Mafia shit, Seth even deleted it. Oubre is on notice, officially. Threezus ain't feeling the dude. The deeper psychological part is Steph is probably doubly mad because he's no longer the best looking guy on the team. But Steph would put up with being the second hottest dude if Oubre could buy into the motion offense, let alone figure it out.

Anonymous
>>52851904

No its not. Seth understands that his brother is trying to carry a bad team and oubre is making it hard. Oubre has no legacy to defend. Some people think steph does.. go and checpck seth's comments when steph scored 62.

Anonymous

Mulder out, Poole In. Oubre out, Lonzo in. I'm excited to see this lineup. I'm done with Oubre. He plays for the show not for the team.

Anonymous

There is no f'ing way Seth disses KO without prior conversations with Steph on the subject. 💯on that one, Alc.

Gsw4L

My take...Steph def capable carrying this team to play offs. Dray unable to score. Dead race between him 21% and Oubre 23% from 3pt line. Wiggs wasn't his night. Paschal continues to struggle. JTA and Baze high quality minutes. I thought we played well. Just not enough size and firepower to compete. Rebounding is our greatest weakness and we are giving up too many points at the free throw line. With JW and Loon out, Kerr said Dray and Eric will play extended minutes at 5. I hope we don't suffer another injury playing Steph, Dray and Wiggs 40 + minutes this early into the season. Dallas and Spurs next. Would be great if we can win two out of four games.

Anonymous

When I saw Draymond throw that lob to Looney, I said out loud "Draymond is really trying to get Looney injured throwing these passes". Like wtf is Draymond thinking throwing that shit? Glad that wasn't what hurt him, but really, KYP.

Gsw4L
>>52851179

Kelly doesn't make team better. He is is a bad team defender, late on closeouts and over reaching. Even our secondary unit will struggle with him on the floor. He's also not rebounding well. Him and Paschal only 1 rebound in 40 minutes...Lonzo is perfect fit for our fast pace passing game. I think Lonzo would build good chemistry with Weisman on transition and alley ups...

Anonymous

Was wondering what happened to that guy in the pre-season who was a dead-eye 3 point shooter (forgot his name)? Anyone remember him / have any updates? He was 3-d and 6'6'' I believe

Anonymous

Dray Scored 2 mf points in 36 mins. —((2))—

Anonymous

It's not that I don't Oubre, but with the way this roster is he's far to relied on nightly. His perfect fit is off the bench if Klay was around. Eyes on Chicago, possible Oubre and Wolves 1st (+someone else to make salary match) for Lavine. Obviously others moves are needed for size, but Myers and the front office are clearly waiting for something.

Anonymous

Listened to Connor letourneau yesterday giving out Quarterseason Grades. His ass gave Mulder an A, saying he didn't realize how good of a defender he is, with big hands, long arms, uber athletic, these Beat writers man, they can leave with "doo doo head" Oubre, can we trade those guys along with Bob and Kelesy. Im just waiting til one of your nicknames catches the mainstream 😂, smeagol, Bridgetroll, first human biyombo and the guy that smells his own farts Poetl

Anonymous

Mulder out. Bring Ryan Taylor from our G league. Dude shot 11 or 12 trays in a G league game, was lighting up in the “Dubble” and his defense can’t be any worse than Mulder’s.

Anonymous

Maaan JTA really made some Igoudala plays last night... i know he doesnt have the talent or IQ of Iggy but maybe he can balance it out with effort and play that role. . And also, someone need to tell draymond its all cool with the intangibles and him being and organizer and shit but bro you are a starter, you once where an all star, you are considered a star in the league, a foundational peace of the organization enough with the triple single... hes game dosnt seem to have improved one bit since the 2018 finals so idk man.

Anonymous

While still on this team. KO needs to focus on defense and just simplify his game. Slash dude and kick out. But at the end of the day, the Warriors are going to get beat if Steph & Wiggs are the only ones out there that’s are 3 level shooters (3pt, mid range, rim finisher) shooters.

Anonymous

Stop making stupid unforced TOVs, Off Ball fouls, for the love of God- Hit your free throws, & rebound the damn ball and minimize second chance points. They BLOW MY LIFE when they don’t do these things night in and night out. That’s literally 30 points they give up on just dumb shit! Okay I’m done.

Anonymous

Draymond looks more out of shape now than when he first came back, what’s up with that? Has he just give up now on $25M and said fuck the gym i’m getting Costco Hotdogs and soda?

Anonymous

While this game was frustrating because we easily could have won it, at least we freaking came out ready to compete against a good team again lol also maybe being without any big bodies will help in the long run, gives Juan an opportunity and it will force everyone to gang rebound, during the dynasty run that was a huge key to success. It seemed like everyone on the team was getting at least 5 boards a night, we need that again

Anonymous

JTA said in the post game interview I'm a positionless player, I agree his game is very "Bill Hanzlik". Draymond was absolutely dreadful on the offensive end 2 points, 1-7, 5 turnovers, an early shot clock 3, and early shot clock 2, and a deep 3 as well, and finally, 2 td pass attempts to Looney (KYP). Draymond should continued to push and distribute in transition but once the ball begins to cycle in the half court it need to go out of Draymond's hands, he needs to get in and compete for rebounds....he is killing the half court sets. Every team's white board says let Draymond shoot/don't guard him, play his pass, make him lonely when he has the ball.

Russ

Dray just killed me in the first half, the league knows he can't score, and he knows he can't score, so everyone knows he's passing and still somehow Dray desperately wants to show that he's somehow the key to our offense, he is forcing everything, then yells at anyone he can when his attempts go to shit as they usually do. be a veteran presence like Iggy used to be you idiot, we aren't surrounding u with off the charts shooters right now, figure it out. I'm beginning to think he considers it a win if his shots hit rim, forget him making anything, that's beyond his grasp. And the league has figured out that they can just let him sprint to the top of the key and look around to c if there r any actual basketball players on his team to pass to because he never does anything except screen and bitch.

Ezra Abbey

I couldn't figure out what was bothering me about Wiggins form on his free throws but you nailed it on the head. He seems to have that issue less when shooting three's because he gathers and jumps and usually has more rhythm. His misses are almost always short and never long so that would point to the little hitch in his energy transfer.

Jansen E

I just............I dont even know anymore man. How unlucky can we be? The entire game I was trashing Looney for just how slow and useless and dumb he looks on the court. Yes I know hes a high IQ player and all the other positives about him. I get it. But goddamn he is just SUCH a hinderance to the team. Cant score. Cant jump. Cant run. Cant defend the rim. Cant be athletic. And then.....to an insult to literal injury........he does down and now we literally dont have a single center on the team. I don't even know at this point. There has got to be some sort of exception or loophole or SOMETHING where we can sign like Dwayne Dedmon, or trade for Jackson Hayes. Its unbelievably infuriating how the lack of the size was basically the only reason we lost this game. If we had Wiseman, and just ONE other big man on our team, I guarantee we win that game. Celtics weren't doing anything special. We just got killed inside every single time. And Curry and Dray wont stop passing to Looney 2 ft from the rim and he just continues to fuck it up. Also. Goddamn Dray. We know you cant shoot. Just why even bother at this point. Transition pull up midrange jumpers? Wtf are you doing??? Is that what you practiced over the offseason? Cuz if so.....wow you need more practice.

Kahlil Baker

Loon is out 2+ weeks

Anonymous

Ngl I'm feeling kinda nervous about this road trip. Dallas (esp Porzingis) has been struggling so far and these 2 games could easily help them get their mojo back. Porzingis and Dwight Powell might feast on the offensive glass and droping these 2 games to them would not only put us below .500 but potentially give Dallas some momentum to climb back into the playoff picture which we obv don't want.

Hg80
>>52855481

Connor is better than Wes Goldberg. If it was up to him we’d have drafted Deni Advija!!! 🤦🏾‍♂️ He used to talk so much trash about Wiseman before he was drafted. It was clear he hadn’t watched enough high school tape that was all over YouTube. These not is are fun to listen to but if you want serious analysis, stick with Anthony Slater and Alch.

SAOpp

Difference last night: 1. Beginning of 4th Quarter. -25 Oubre on court, +16 Bazemore sitting on bench. Bad things happened. Eye test supported +-. Baze was good with and without Steph on court. 2. Wiggins played Tatum tough at beginning of 1st and 3rd. Tatum out at 6 minute mark of 1st and 3rd, and back to play against 2nd unit in 2nd and 4th. He feasted both times and stayed confident. Next time, Kerr should adjust Wiggins minutes to match Tatum's. 3. Dray and Steph too sloppy early. Could have stretched lead out to 20 with fewer TOs. Dray thinks everyone can catch lobs like Javele and Andre.

athleticalchemy
>>52859802

The irony in him talking about how dumb fans are. I’m seeing a real lack in idk emotional iq..

Anonymous

The Oubre thing is getting comical at this point. How do you shoot above 45% and still manage to be more of a detriment than playoff Kemba. As for Steph....he was great last night, but he can't let Oubre be the one making decisions, especially in those 10 minutes to start the in the 3rd. Draymond thinking Looney is Wilt is beyond me tho.

athleticalchemy
>>52857691

he might have to move to the dunker spot.. making the right play out if the short roll ain’t rocket science.. oub could probably do it well.

athleticalchemy
>>52855840

I remind you.. his trainer is his boy who went to M-state bro was on Let’s Go Warriors ✊🏽... and said “ now I wasn’t a shooter” and I just sunk in my seat. It basically sound like he got his boy letting him do whatever he want to do tbh staying real comfortable

Anonymous

Curry needs to put on his carry pants for a win on the road before our boys can get un-injured and give him some much needed backup beyond Wiggins' consistent 15-20 points per game.

Anonymous

Based on the eye test I thought Draymond and Paschall were the worst players by far. Draymond's ego forces him to make unnecessary offensive plays. Defensively he's making a ton of mistakes. There's no reason for him to take any jump shots yet he does it anyways. Paschall can't handle 2nd units that are athletic and long from what we've seen, he also probably wants Mulder and Lee playing at the same time for spacing.

Anonymous

Short of a major roster shakeup I've got to admit I've basically written off this season at this point. This team just straight up isn't good enough. It's not just the personnel, it's the coaching and playing time for certain players. My only hope is that they do have some moves to make that can rather than try and salvage this season can set us up for next season. Some big bodies is obviously a priority. Looney despite his experience has to go. Oubre and Molder too obviously. Someone needs to light a fire under Drays arse because for all the intangibles he ain't bringing nearly enough to the table. Ultimately I think we will be able to say that two rings with KD cut off his development and started an early decline of his game. Let's hope for a miracle turn around maybe. Most of all lets pray that no one suffers any serious injury.

Freddie D

I love when Oubre forces a turnover on defense. He always gives the first down signal. lol

Anonymous

draymond is a shell of his former self. I'm gonna give him the post covid fatigue stuff for another month, but then I wanna see him in better shape and hitting some shots. we really need him to play better for the contract he's on

athleticalchemy
>>52860154

When his J is coming out flat I think he doesn’t fully pocket it.. it’s a little out in front of him too much

athleticalchemy
>>52861347

Jaxson was a monstrosity last time I saw him like a young JaVale.. what if they had Spellman is secretly working out in the facilities getting in shape

athleticalchemy
>>52869073

Ep needs that 3 ball now to pull these guys out further.. they are all camping in his spots now.

athleticalchemy
>>52869412

I think were very much in the mix for a playoff spot.. contending of course not.. you nailed it tho.. KD is the exact moment he stopped caring about his offense.

Anonymous

Its hilarious to think that if Wigs made those FTs and Paschall didn't miss his 2 FTs and if Oubre didn't miss a FT too, we'd have won by 1. 😂

Gsw4L
>>52851188

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/kelly-oubres-struggles-steph-curry-epitomized-stunning-stat

Anonymous

i think people are hella out of line trying to scapegoat oubre over the -25. he played pretty average but not bad last night. he just happened to be on the floor when boston went on runs but it wasn't him chucking brick after brick or chaperoning men to the cup. he's had some pretty awful games but last night wasn't it.

Anonymous
>>52877783

For real, I can't say Oubre was worse than Paschall or Wiggins, Draymond was also very bad.

athleticalchemy

I admit during I wasn’t really tripping off his game.. but that number and the numbers are crazy.. and you know I’m not a numbers guy. Compound it with the Seth thing and it has become the topic..

Anonymous

I was yelling a lot during this game, most "Dray that's looney! WTH you doing". Also, miss the pride Draymond had for rebounding after a defensive stop, I remember all the scraping and effort it took for him to rebound in that small ball line up, the effort seems not to be there anymore, when now were going to need it more than ever the next couple weeks

Anonymous
>>52870441

I don't understand the constant trade him arguments surely every other team must know that his value on Golden State is so much different to him on any other team. With the sizeable contract he is on I don't see any chance of getting enough in return. Not to mention the damage it would do to team morale.

Anonymous

A real ongoing question, what will it take to unlock more from Wiggins offensively? Or is this about as much as we can expect if we are asking him to put in so much effort on the other end? Don't get me wrong he's the second best player on the team at this point I'm just a little confused why more plays are being made with him in mind? I know he's shooting well but it would be a damn shamn if he simply relegates himself to a spot up shooting role.

athleticalchemy

Yeah it seems like a volume cap right now. I’ve seen him go for 40+ several times. Force feeding Wiseman and Oubre’s erratic shot selection. He should get some of those Oubre DHO curling actions

Anonymous

Tuscano is a hard worker, but defensively he gets dropped by a crossover every time...Still he played well this game and we gotta give credit I hope Kerr plays him a bit more, at least let him take some of Wanamaker's minutes. Also, as I said before, a trade has to happen or we don't make playoffs. I know Lonzo has his own issues but at this point I just want a smarter person on the court than Oubre. Also trade Green's ass he washed

Anonymous
>>52851424

Can't argue with you there. Yeah, for all his big talk about defensive principles...he's really shitting the bed on the offensive side.

Jerry Heverly

The next ten days will be 2020 redux. Lots of losses with marginal players hustling and scuffling and occasionally putting in an impressive performance (e.g. Toscano Tuesday) but seldom enough to actually win a game. I must keep reminding myself that it's not about this year, the goal is 16 months ahead.

Bailey
>>52877104

This reminds me of 2019 Game 6. We missed 8 FTs in the fourth quarter. We would've straight up won the game.

Gsw4L
>>52870441

Dray's value is with Steph and Klay. Dame wants him on Blazers because they have CJ.

Gsw4L
>>52879350

Both Dray and Steph have 0.1 blocks per game. He's not rebounding well ether

Gsw4L
>>52882213

I was watching Wiggs in Minny. He needs the ball in his hand to be more dominant. Playing him more with second unit will do some but than you'll have to deal with Oubre who is killing the ball movement

Gsw4L

Mavs are not good defensive team. They also play btb. I like our chances tonite. Lgw

Anonymous

Why you do Jeff Teague dirty like that "his big bug eye ass"