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Rebels 2x09/2x10 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-06-06 13:17:18
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Star Wars Rebels 2x09/2x10 Full Reaction

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Ryan

If nothing else, I'd love this episode for at long last giving us some in-universe acknowledgement that Stormtrooper armor is complete shit. And they actually bother to give a decent in-universe explanation for it, that the Empire just doesn't bother to give them decent equipment when it can just throw sheer numbers of them at the Rebels and then conscript some replacements.

Saltire

Here it is, the episode where Chopper just casually murders 50,000 imperials! He almost kills Ezra too with his shenanigans at that reactor! Chopper’s bloodlust is unquenchable! One of the best, most fun standalone episodes of Rebels, a real caper for our crew to get up to all sorts of mischief! Agent Kallus warning that Admiral not to underestimate Ezra, and we see why, as Ezra is becoming quite proficient with his lightsabre/blaster, he is on his way to becoming quite formidable a fighter. I can imagine Jabba The Hutt being annoyed by hearing on the grapevine about some cocky kid using his name as a pseudonym! The Admiral's hubris costs him dear as he not only loses his ship, but sets back this technological development, and his superiors will not be happy with him! Kanan saying Rex is a stormtrooper shows how he's still blocked about working with a clone, not a very Jedi-like thing to say. Thankfully, as they work together over the mission, they begin to respect one another for their abilities, and that salute at the end, I'm sure meant a lot to Rex. Onto episode 10. That opening is dark, ordinary people on a commute being boarded and killed by the Inquisitors just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ahsoka with the hero shot, coming out of the light to rescue our friends, and completely outclassing those Inquisitors, she is pretty much a Jedi Master in all but name. It also shows just the levels above Kanan she is as a warrior, she fought the whole war, duelled Grievous twice, Ventress twice and Maul as a teenager AND was trained by those Inquisitors master - they never stood a chance. Also this was the debut of her white lightsabres as seen in The Mandalorian. She kept the kyber crystals she got from that Inquisitor she defeats in Tales Of The Jedi. She uses the force on the the red crystals taken from his sabres and purifies them, turning them from red to white. This also subconsciously tells us she is neither Jedi nor Sith; and they are the only white lightsabres in Star Wars, outside of the High Republic books. Its never mentioned in the show but while Kanan and Ahsoka were at the Jedi Temple as younglings, they were in classes together working on their lightsabre skills so knew of each other even if they weren't friends back then since Ahsoka is around 3 years older than Kanan and then soon after, went on and became Anakin's Padawan. Kanan now looks to her as a kind of mentor and takes advice from her off screen when he can, to help him try to centre himself once more as a Jedi, which is ironic considering technically Ahsoka isn't one now. Dave Filoni tweeted a bit of a background with them to help flesh out their relationship when this first aired to help fans understand where Kanan was at. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFT98fiUMAADxnn?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFT98feUwAEvpMd?format=jpg&name=small There was also a collection of shorts made called Forces Of Destiny, which shows little stories from different time periods. One of them shows Ahsoka teaching Ezra too. Chopper almost promoting infanticide as he wants to blow up the ship with the baby inside! Then after is seen playing with them! Would you trust your child with Chopper? :D Finally, this episode is the first to take place 3 years out from A New Hope.

Saltire
>>110132125

I always consider the bog standard stormtrooper to be more of a policeman than soldier; there to be a deterrent, not an enforcer. Sure there are more elite stormtrooper squads out there that the Empire uses, but mainly they aren't really needed too much since they have overwhelming numbers of them even in that cheap armour.

Thomas Corp

These two episodes are great. Yes, it’s a highlight that our heroes are united by the desire to do the right thing. A sticky situation of Ezra and Sato caught in the gravity well. I think such a device may or may not have been used by the Sith a few thousand years ago. If not the same thing, they had something similar. Lovely to see Rex and Kanan stuck working together and having to get along. I love Rex showing his protocol knowledge that he and Cody came up with and how he shoots Kanan the look that says, “You should learn to pay your respects.” As I see has been commented on, it’s great how the show acknowledges about the stormtrooper armor, down to Rex all but saying about the helmet, “GodDAMN! I can’t see fucking SHIT out of this thing!” I knew it was coming, your delight and joy seeing when Kanan comes around on Rex, and like I said on youtube, your reactions to it were BEAUTIFUL, Jess. Though it’s not focused on as much, I like the secondary plotline of Sato initially skeptical of Ezra, and as the mission progresses, how he gains respect for the young man. That one Nazi-poster boy Imperial was quite the idiot. When in admiral of the ISB, the wing of the Empire whose job is to be beyond paranoid as possible tells you that Ezra’s not quite as helpless as he appears, MAYBE you might want to consider the idea that your boss is onto something. Which brings us to Chopper’s mass murder moment. You KNOW he’s watching it, and saying, “Look upon my works, meatbags!! LOOK UPON IT!!! BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!” Now onto the second episode. Yes, as you see, good ol’ Papa Palpatine is still carrying out his cradle snatching scheme. Yeah, he has nefarious designs for the babies, which requires them to be taken to a location that is known only to him and Darth Vader. It was amusing seeing the crew struggle with how to handle the baby. Leading me to be a trifle mean by joking, “Wait, you’re saying the Jedi don’t have a baby handbook? Even the Sith have got something, fucked up beyond all recognition though it is, the Jedi have Jackshit on baby material?! Come on!!” Lovely to see the Seventh Sister and the Fifth Brother continue to be formidable opponents to the Shady Bunch. Thus, it’s quite satisfying when Ahsoka shows up and outclasses them both. To the Seventh Sister’s credit, she DOES put up a halfway decent fight, albeit Ahsoka is deliberately holding back some showing she’s a true Jedi. You know, the Jedi have a philosophy with combat that they want their opponents to think and feel that they’re doing well; they hate to see people die embarrassed. This contrasts with the Sith who LIVE for demonstrating the full POWER of the Dark Side, thereby showing their opponents never have a chance. You see this with Vader utterly wrecking the Third Sister, Count Dooku perpetually handing Obi-Wan his ass, and when the Emperor didn’t even come close to breaking a sweat when he faced Savage one-on-one. These were fantastic reactions to two fantastic episodes of Rebels, Jess, thank you.

Thomas Corp
>>110135181

Chopper doth possess a most unquenchable bloodlust, yes. I could see both Jabba being both annoyed and amused by Ezra continuing to use his name, saying, “This rebel is my kind of scum; fearless and inventive.” That salute warms the heart. Yeah, Vader taught the Inquisitors everything they know, but not everything HE knows. Ahsoka received the superior training, combined with her war experience that you highlighted, like you say, very one-sided. Lovely information Filoni shared. No, I would not trust Chopper with babies, but I’m not one to talk as I don’t have kids and I'm terrible with kids.

Saltire
>>110135181

Yeah thats a good point to observe about the training of Inquisitors; they'll be taught to a sufficient level to take out most of the lesser Jedi like Kanan and Ezra; but no further so they would have no chance of being a threat to the Sith. By having them work against each other wanting scraps of attention from Vader also helps keep their minds on other things and getting the job done they have been ordered to do, which Vader mentions in the very first scene of the show about killing of surviving Jedi and dealing with the 'children of the force'. If they can't bring them onto their side, their job is to then execute them. These infants here would have been trained up like Reva had they kept them.

Saltire
>>110139065

I have a confession to make, I could never warm to Cody. Each time I saw him in Clone Wars, hanging around with Rex, Ahsoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan, all I could think about was how he didn't hesitate to shoot at Obi-Wan after he killed Grievous. I know the chip story wasn't developed then, nor the stories between him and the others; but I cannot rid myself of the bias I have with him. I think the pacing of Ezra's development is spot on in Rebels too. We've seen a fair bit of training and are beginning to see the fruits of all he has learnt, both as to how he deals with situations (i.e. taking out those three stormtroopers by stripping them of their weapons leaving them helpless) and how he chooses to act selflessly now instead of being all for himself in the pilot. And we see he's really coming on and has his own corridor scene here; and whilst its not as smooth as what someone like Anakin or Ahsoka would have been able to do at his age, he's getting there - against normal foes anyway, Inquisitors are another issue just now. Chopper flexing himself after all that destruction, he's got a taste for it now - god help the rest of the imps who get anywhere near him! :D Ahsoka does seem to like to disarm I've noticed now; she does it with Maul to win the fight in Clone Wars against him, in Tales Of The Jedi she rids the Inquisitor of his sabre before killing him (and she only does this to protect her identity), and here with the Seventh Sister she disarms her whilst using the momentum of the Fifth Brother against him to take care of them, and she then has them both at her mercy but she doesn't need to kill them, as Vader already knows she's out there and that would be acting out of anger (though you could also say killing them would bring a bit less evil to the galaxy judging by the opening scene). So even though Ahsoka says to Kanan "you're more a Jedi than I" at the start, she is very much the Jedi in her actions.

Thomas Corp
>>110139065

I suppose that’s fair your thoughts on Cody. On the other hand, the aiming directions that he gave to the men do very conveniently miss Obi-Wan which has led to a theory that I've heard and like that Cody DID resist enough to not obliterate Obi-Wan outright. And say you don’t buy the theory, again, your thoughts on Cody are fair. Yeah, Ezra’s development is at a very steady and organic pace, which is great. Yes, Chopper’s tasted blood and now wants more. Good observation on Ahsoka preferring to disarm opponents to end fights, the Inquisitor of unknown designation being a notable exception. Showing that Ahsoka favors non-violence in battles, and she doesn’t kill unless she has to/truly has no other option such as in Tales. The sign of a true Jedi.

Thomas Corp
>>110135181

Right, train the Inquisitors enough to be efficient at what they need to be, yet too weak to ever pose any credible threat to the Emperor or Vader. And like you say, keep their minds occupied on different tasks to distract them from ever planning on banding together. It is always disturbing to think of the Emperor and Vader planning to raise and train the babies into an army of Dark Siders, or other diabolical plans which are best not thought about, at least not in too great of detail.

Saltire
>>110135181

Oh its horrible. I don't even want to think of how Maul was raised by Sidious from a child as his apprentice, as an example. And Jess makes a solid point, there are less than a handful of Jedi left at this time and perhaps dozens of force sensitives I'm sure still around that the Inquisitors will either kill or pick up to become one of them. These two infants were lucky, the others will be less so. We did hear about The Path in Kenobi, perhaps we'll see more of that in future, to see what happened with the others.

Saltire
>>110139065

Well without spoiling things, we may see more on that about Cody in future; and yes perhaps there might be some resistance in him and his troops as they fire, but I need convincing lol! And just to rub it in, Obi-Wan literally saves Cody from a mortar in the last arc of Clone Wars - Filoni knew damn well what he was doing there, that magnificent SOB!! :D I've heard people be critical of Obi-Wan not killing Vader in their first two duels, but he is acting as a Jedi should, letting the force decide in both cases. Ahsoka was also Obi-Wan's padawan to an extent, I'm sure she learnt plenty of lessons from the great man too along the way to become what we see her here.

Thomas Corp
>>110139065

Yes, I am hoping for future Cody material, especially focusing on his actions during Order 66, and his thoughts, feelings, and actions following. Definitely would be nice to have the theory explicitly made canon. Filoni surely knew what he was doing, you got that right. And yeah, much as Ahsoka was Anakin’s padawan, she learned a great deal from both Obi-Wan and Plo, and it shows in her actions.

Thomas Corp
>>110135181

I've read some of Maul’s upbringing at the hands of Sidious, and it’s highly disturbing. Yeah, the point Jess made is a solid one. More focus on the Path sounds appealing. I’ve been thinking about how we could see scenes of that related to Grogu and Kelleran Beq; that either Kelleran helped start it and/or discovered it and delivered Grogu to the Path for his safety, maybe.

Saltire
>>110135181

Yeah I'd be all up for more Kelleran Beq (certainly ahead of Quinlan Vos anyway), and I can see that being a solid link up, putting Grogu on the Path before he got captured by those goons in the pilot for Mando.