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Star Trek: The Motion Picture Full Reaction! (Patreon)

Published:
2023-04-22 17:00:59
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2023-04

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Hey lovelies, I realize the fan is semi-loud in this reaction. I have semi-adjusted and everything's good now but I apologize if it's distracting during this reaction. 

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Star Trek: The Motion Picture Full Reaction

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Jeff Clark

Just started watching and I was super confused during that opening "star" sequence. For some reason the "UK" language option has audio description, so I had a deep male voice describing the stars and the patterns they made on my TV but heard nothing on your end. It was only when he started describing the paramount logo to me that I realised what was happening.

Ryan

Before this movie was made, the plan was to make a whole new show called Phase II, and several scripts were written before it was axed in favor in a feature film. One of those scripts was expanded into this movie, which certainly helps explain the massive amount of padding to get it to feature length, resulting in its being popularly nicknamed "The Motionless Picture." Of course, a lot of that is also that it had been a decade since the fans had seen anything new of this franchise outside the animated series for kids, and suddenly having the power of a massive feature budget behind it must have been an amazing experience at the time, so they definitely needed to throw in some empty space for people to get their cheers out. Unfortunately, one big downside to using a Phase II script is that only Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were going to be carried over to the new show, which forced the rest to have noticeably smaller roles that were shoved in during preproduction. They also had a hell of a time convincing Nimoy to come back as he'd grown very frustrated at how the role of Spock had completely taken over his public image (and he actually titled his autobiography I Am Not Spock), why is why he's off on his own until suddenly arriving on the ship halfway through the movie. In the end, I have to be one of the boring ones and say the movie doesn't stir any major feelings in me one way or another, and just sits there like three hours of white noise. But I'm definitely very thankful for its role in reinvigorating the brand, which led to what we'll see coming up next.

Jeff Clark
>>106930351

Funnier was your reactions to the long establishing shots throughout the movie, I was dying at your facial expressions! I agree that they were too drawn out but I think it's a symptom of the time the movie was made (difficult to do high tempo action well) and also the fact it was the first Star Trek project on the big screen and so they wanted to give those long porno shots of the enterprise for the fans to salivate over on a gigantic cinema screen. It only gets better...and that's from someone who isn't really a huge Trek fan, never watched the shows just the movies.

Anonymous

Start by addressing the fan. No worries at all about the fan, Jess, as I did not notice it throughout the reaction. Besides which, speaking from theatre experience, the insanely bright and hot lights, and the make-up, yeah, your description of a sauna applies there, so I have no objections to the fan. If it makes you more comfortable, by all means, Jess, have the fan. That sucks about the acrylics by the way. Likewise, sorry to hear about the increased congestion along with the headache. Now we come to the journey through the original series Star Trek films, starting with the Motionless Picture. Pardon me, the Motion Sickness. Sorry, uh, The Motion Picture, that’s it. First, to address the opening bit with the stars, I surmise it’s meant to be like epic films of old where an overture was presented before the film properly began. If that is what they were going for, I would have appreciated them saying so. My opinion of the film is similar to what you expressed in that the film itself is fine. The plot is genuinely good if a touch derivative. The thing that significantly bogs it down is the pace, particularly during the montages/sequences. I see Ryan succinctly summed up a lot of how it came to be. I would add my frequent joke of it’s the creative team saying, “Look! We have money now!” I also add you can tell they drew heavy inspiration from 2001 to further distinguish and differentiate from Star Wars. My own thought with most of it is, “For chrissake, can we get the lead out? This is not the DMV, goddamn it. Let's move it along here.” Again, the pace is the primary gripe. The montages/sequences feel longer than the wedding portion of The Deer Hunter, and by the third or fourth montage of the film, it feels longer than the entirety of The Deer Hunter. As you say, for the time, it was presumably mind-blowing, today, sluggish. Though not a villain, and it’s even difficult to classify V’ger as an antagonist, V’ger as a source of conflict is, you are correct not necessarily the most engaging. But don’t worry, we will get to experience most memorable villains soon enough. I liked Decker in this. Though not stated on screen, Decker is in fact the son of the previous character of the same name. And yes, though I've not seen 7th Heaven, I do believe you are correct on his actor, complete creep though he turned out to be, unfortunately. But yes, I think you’re right on the actor. Ilia, likewise, was intriguing. I laugh at how quickly she cut short Kirk’s efforts to woo. She nipped it in the bud lightning quick and set a record for bud nipping. A major highlight of the film is seeing the cast step back into the roles of the iconic crew and get back in the saddle again. Spock’s plotline, I'm pleased to see you liked it as it gets me emotional some. I predicted correctly your reaction to the look Bones had. I held similar sentiments by saying, “Let him keep the beard. Don’t you DARE take the beard! That beard is MAGNIFICENT!” Thus, when we see Bones clean shaven, I yelled, “GodDAMN IT, they took the beard!! ...It’s just not fair, just not right.” I still can’t get over how obvious Shatner’s hairpiece is. You’re also right about George Takei aging gracefully. In fact, his birthday was two days ago, he’s now eighty-six, and he’s still looking good. Sidenote, the siren going off was no bother. It did take a second to ascertain was that happening where I was or where you were. Thus, when you acknowledged it, like I say it happened, no problem. You're correct that overall, this isn’t the most revered Star Trek film, evidenced by as you noted, this being the one your mom doesn’t have the physical copy of. I would argue there’s one further down the road that’s worse or at least less enjoyable, but we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. All in all, an enjoyable reaction to the first Star Trek film. I thank you for the reaction, Jess, and I look forward to the future reactions.

Anonymous
>>106930351

That is one of the things the Director's Cut changed, adding the starfield for the overture. Originally, the overture just plays over the black screen.

Ryan
>>106938319

The really funny thing is that Kirk taking over Decker's command happened in real life a few years later, with Collins' show Tales of the Gold Monkey being cancelled in favor of Shatner's TJ Hooker. And because he's a creepy asshole, we don't even need to feel bad laughing about it.

Anonymous

The main problem was since they now had the big budget, they wanted to go hard on the FX... the good was the Enterprise redesign and all the interior sets... but the bad was it was less Trek and more 2001. For me, I love the film right up until Spock fixes the warp drive. Once they get to VGer, then it bogs down with way too many visuals. I hadn't even realized they did the Director's Cut of TMP until news hit that the TOS films were going to be released in 4K. I only knew about the original and the TV cut. I prefer to watch the TOS versions with the original FX and not the updated ones. Felt the same way after watching the Director's Cut. Outside of the sequence when the team physically disembarks to walk to VGer (which IS a vast improvement over the original version- the proportions of that Enterprise exterior were WAY off), all of the other updated FX they added with the director's cut weren't that big a deal to me. The changes to the audio are pretty glaring to me as well... that new red alert sound, ugh. Just not what I am used to seeing and hearing all these decades of rewatching the original version. The TV/ SLV cut is the one I prefer... with the additional scenes (including some they did not add in the director's cut) but no alterations to the original visual and audio FX. Had to ask since you didn't mention anything during the two scenes- did you pick up on that the Transporter Chief was Yeoman Rand from the 1st season of the series?

Anonymous

Jess, all of these original movies are free on HBO Max. I know it’s weird, they should be on Paramount+ but you know streaming 🤷🏻‍♀️ This movie is slow, was at the time. I felt you suppressing the urge to roll your eyes, lol. It’s okay. I would say that except for the nostalgia factor, my feelings are the same. And I disavow any knowledge of the Director’s cut. Honestly, I don’t know what the difference is. The good news is that the others are much better, including the pacing. To their credit, they listened to the critiques of this one and adapted accordingly. Yes, there will be more crew interaction. I hope you feel better today. No need to apologize, I enjoyed 😊

Anonymous

I never imagined I'd want to sit down and watch this film again, but you tempted me into it! It was a much more fun experience watching it with your reactions. I look forward very much indeed to the next one!

Dave Hampton

This is the only Star Trek film I have not seen all of until now. I was too young to see it in the theater. I saw part of it on TV and it was soooo slow I stopped watching. I did know the main plot was that Voyager was in the cloud. I am glad to have watched all of it now, but yeah it is slow. I am sure you are right about them wanting to impress with special effects (and also just appreciate the ship and such on the big screen and not on what TV's were in the 60's). I do not know how remastered this is but for 1979 this did look really good. The rest of the films I have not seen in a long time so it will be fun to revisit them. I think you film these a decent amount of time in advance. By the time we see the next one you will maybe have had your surgery so I will wish you luck with the surgery now. I hope it makes you feel better. Oh, and I watch these with headphones, and I did not even here the fan so no worries on that IMO.

Anonymous

I saw this in the theater in 1979 when I was 7. I fell in love with the Enterprise during that fly-by sequence and it still makes me feel like a kid. Of course, the transporter accident also seared itself into my brain; that really freaked me out, especially the "what we got back didn't live long...fortunately" line. And believe it or not, but I believe the Director's Cut is actually shorter than the theatrical version. The V'Ger flying sequences went on considerably longer!

Anonymous

Yes, the sequences are pretty long and tedious, it was one of the main complaints about the movie. Except for the Enterprise introduction sequence. I saw this in the theater as a teen, I grew up watching Star Trek and it had been 10 years since we'd seen anything new on screen so the sequence didn't feel very long at all and I still get goosebumps watching it. This movie came about mainly due to the popularity of movies like 2001 and Star Wars, Paramount knew they had something in Star Trek to cash in on the popularity of sci fi at the time. However, the director wasn't a sci fi guy and didn't even know anything about Star Trek so it was good for what it was. As I recall, the theatrical version was worse than the directors cut as far as the long sequences. The other movies are better as far as entertainment is concerned, though I have my issues with them which I may comment on when you watch them. Kirk needed Bones back for the psychological aspect, he knew he needed Bones as a sounding board, so he was necessary if only for that reason. The novelization of the movie is vastly better than the movie was, it delved into the motivations a bit more. Here's hoping that your surgery helps with your breathing issues, it's difficult to watch you struggle sometimes because we care. As tedious as this movie gets, at least there aren't a lot of lense flares (veiled reference to the JJ Abrams version of Star Trek).

Anonymous
>>106952557

Lol, that man has ruined forever the strategic use of a good solar flare for all time.

Ryan
>>106952184

And somehow we're still supposed to laugh at McCoy and think he's unreasonable for not wanting to use the transporter.

Paul Patine

Even back in 1979 this movie was considered by many fans and critics to be slow and frustrating -- to the point of nearly being ruined by its direction. The movie made money, but many said the next film must be better, or the franchise might not survive. I wonder if Robert Wise, the director, thought he was making Star Trek the same way Kubrick made 2001. Or maybe it was just his style -- his other sci-fi movies were also slow and cerebral. Wise directed The Day the Earth Stood Still in '51, which is really a classic and still watchable today, but his movie The Andromeda Strain in the early '70s is far less watchable. Even the movies he directed that were not sci-fi, like the Sound of Music, would not be considered fast paced. Fortunately, Wise did not direct any later Star Trek films.

Connor Ellis

My god the flight to the Enterprise is god-tier music.

ThatGuy11200

I affectionately refer to this movie as Star Trek The Music Video.